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Well FF is the one poster whose information keeps me coming back, not to mention renew my membership of the forum. I reckon I speak for 95% of those regularly viewing it when I say it would be a disaster if FF stopped posting what he's heard even though he may need to couch it in careful terms to avoid disclosing his sources.

 

Most of those with any information at all have decided not to post it because of the ridicule they get from a handful of idiots who know nothing and are at best (yes at best!) P...pey fans.

 

It would be my view that someone ridiculing information given in good faith without being able to post a constructive reply as to why they feel it appropriate to do so should be banned as they wreck it for everyone else.

 

Could I please ask FF and anyone else who feels they might have information which they believe that most of us might like to hear to keep on posting however small the snippet might be. Ignore the idiots as most genuine posters try to do I'm sure. I sometimes find it very difficult to see them as true fans and when they do post anything it's not the kind of stuff that will get the majority coming back for more.

 

Well said that man. FF is 1 of only a dozen or so posters that I stop and read, when there are numerous pages on a topic. Please keep posting as I am big and ugly enough to read a post, and make an opinion without the need to post insults. So much abuse and absolute ******** that is posted on here is the main reason I have not renewed. The first time that I haven't contributed to this or previous SAINTS forums.

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I wasn't fishing for praise or ridicule, by and large most on here have a little pop take the **** and move on. Fair does.

But when you are trying to tell something which is a little awkward - almost inviting people to read between the lines - it is a bit of a bummer when you get a load of bull**** comments.

 

Maybe I should be a little less precious, maybe i am too sensitive but some times just a little more thought before posting would work wonders.

It looks like a throw away comment to me that you have taken to heart. The fact that you have received no reply to a PM on the subject probably just indicates that either he didn't give a toss about the subject anyway, or feels a bit embarrassed, or is about 15 years old, or he just hasn't seen the PM (the latter being unlikely). I don't think it is necessary to start a thread every time somebody has a dig at you do no apparent reason. Just ignore it and move on - life is too short....but before I go I would like to complain about smirking_saint saying that all my posts are self-important sarcasm. They are clearly only ever one or the other, never both at the same time :mad:
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There are also a select few who talk to each other on first name terms and who like to pat each other on the back
I agree that it is a bit odd. I thought that people used pseudonyms to remain anonymous - which is a bit pointless if somebody is going to refer to them by their real name. Might as well register under your real name like wot I did. I know OoohTerryHurlock, but I never refer to him as Mikey on here.
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And I think that when those instances arise and someone acts like a twot, then the vast majority can clearly see who the prck is.

 

I certainly think we could all have a look at how we talk to each other on here at times, but at the same time it is pretty obvious who the tssers, trolls and idiots out there are (and Fitzhugh Fella is certainly not amongst them).

 

I take your point but surely this forum is for all to say what they like within reason isn't it? I think most of us are drawn towards those we believe are similar to us in view. The problem is rudeness and intolerance towards others, which most of us have to own up to at times. Duncan is an interesting and intelligent poster with whom I often agree. Whilst I disagree with others, they are not tossers, trolls or idiots - just posters - like you and I...

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I take your point but surely this forum is for all to say what they like within reason isn't it? I think most of us are drawn towards those we believe are similar to us in view. The problem is rudeness and intolerance towards others, which most of us have to own up to at times. Duncan is an interesting and intelligent poster with whom I often agree. Whilst I disagree with others, they are not tossers, trolls or idiots - just posters - like you and I...

 

Point in case

 

Who the fook is Duncan?

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The problem is rudeness and intolerance towards others, which most of us have to own up to at times. Duncan is an interesting and intelligent poster with whom I often agree.....
He is also not immune from the accusation of rudeness and intolerance. Most regular posters have been rude and intolerant at least once....except ladysaint of course ;-)
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He is also not immune from the accusation of rudeness and intolerance. Most regular posters have been rude and intolerant at least once....except ladysaint of course ;-)

 

That is my point. If you post on the forum then expect others to have a go if they think you're wrong. What's wrong with that? The forum almost authorises you to say what you think in a way that you might not if it was in a face to face situation. In theory noone gets hurt that way...

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Whilst I disagree with others, they are not tossers, trolls or idiots - just posters - like you and I...

 

Just because I disagree with what people might be posting I'm certainly not saying they are the tossers, idiots or trolls, far from it.

 

I think there's a world of difference between holding and espousing a different opinion on here and the antics of a few idiots and trolls on here. It's easy to distinguish between the two styles.

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Please everyone. Lets have a bit of sanity and act saintly! FF is too valuable a poster to lose on this site. Many of us lead busy lives, so rely on the regulars to keep us up to speed on the "real issues". FF has had his fair share of critics on this site and has to put up with some unwanted attention during the low(e) era. I sreiously believed, perhaps naively, that with the new regime at this club, the forum members would now unite and be more postive. FF keep up the good work.

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Please everyone. Lets have a bit of sanity and act saintly! FF is too valuable a poster to lose on this site. Many of us lead busy lives, so rely on the regulars to keep us up to speed on the "real issues". FF has had his fair share of critics on this site and has to put up with some unwanted attention during the low(e) era. I sreiously believed, perhaps naively, that with the new regime at this club, the forum members would now unite and be more postive. FF keep up the good work.

 

Valuable? Why?

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Please everyone. Lets have a bit of sanity and act saintly! FF is too valuable a poster to lose on this site. Many of us lead busy lives, so rely on the regulars to keep us up to speed on the "real issues". FF has had his fair share of critics on this site and has to put up with some unwanted attention during the low(e) era. I sreiously believed, perhaps naively, that with the new regime at this club, the forum members would now unite and be more postive. FF keep up the good work.
Without wishing to sound rude or intolerant, I believe you are being a bit of a drama queen.
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This forum has some great posters and it is a good place to let off steam, find out things and generally chat to other Saints addicts but some do nothing than insult and wind up hiding behind keyboards while wallowing in their anonyminity.

 

 

Please don't tell me it has taken you 3 years to realise that !

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Personally I am cutting down. So much so I haven't renewed. I think the 3 post limit will be the nicorette patch I need because fundamentally there are better things to do (especially as most of the arguments are circular).

 

I also have a slight (and probably pedantic, given the effort the mods put in) niggle about paying money for something that used to be free. So I'll take my money and my mouth to the advertisement funded purgatory of the three post limit.

 

And with that, I'm out.

 

Thank **** for that

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I don't think anyone here should panic. I am more than willing to step into the shoes of FF. If no one objects I am happy to be the SWF literary person. I am a little ITK through my refereeing contacts and have written some of a book (it is yet to be finished and I have been writing it now for 3 years) on the how the changes in the rules of football have mirrored changes in society. It's quite hard because there aren't that many similarities but it seems a shame to waste 3 years worth of work.

 

Let this FF chap be on his way and I'll happily share any inside info that I have.

 

At the moment I don't have any.

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FF: Try this thread:

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=16147

 

Should restore your perspective!

 

I am sorry to say I read through the best part of three pages of that, before wondering how sad my life had become. I was very close to joining in with a scathing comment of my own on the subject before realising it would have been extremely'sad' to do so. This is just to say thanks for letting me realise that others out there have the same view on those sorts of crap threads.

 

And so to Fitz. F's post.

 

I too am a fan of your posts in the main. Perhaps, as with me, your protagonist was aware all was not kosher with Pullis and his signing. I had it down to Rupert, but didn't know how or why. Your post, FF, laid the blame elsewhere, which didn't fit in with my preconceived idea, thus turning your post into the not so good as usual category. I certainly wasn't going to abuse you for the information, but am disappointed that a deal such as that, if true, could be struck and become enforceable even to new management.

I suppose I'm trying to say that you can't please all the posters all the time, but don't give up on the rest of us for a little cyber abuse from a fellow poster, however galling.

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Dunc FFS mate, do you realise how much schit some of us take? TBF, I think we've become more 'sensitive' on here as some take this (excellent) site a little more seriously...hence the curtailing/banning of fun, Saints fan related posts like the fantastic 'Soul Cellar' memories/legend/myths whatever you wanna call 'em.

 

Me, I also love the Ugly as you can be y'stereotypical Fitzhugh/Spinnaker/Wimpson Club/Market Diner lad without having to retain a thoroughly 'appropriate' posting technique. You can be a shade sacrimonious without fear of chastisement.

 

Both forums have their place, this sometimes has some slight newsworthiness or a reasonable prospective of some average Saints fan's opinions...but it ain't a lot of fun and you get crucified for trying to have some. If we were to allow a bit more humour, p!ss-taking and light-heartedness, we wouldn't find it so devastating when some loud mouth gobbed off without even the balls to back schit up or respond.

 

FF, I probably know you as well as almost anyone on here and vice-versa, I've listened to opinions and advice from you and respected it....well here's some from me about some of your detractors 'Empty vessels make the loudest noises!'

 

Dr Tim diagnoses a couple of weeks rehab on the UI and maybe even a few cyber fights with the skates on Uncle Colin's site - sharpen your retorts and p!ss-taking skills (Which you have been a pastmaster at in the past when needs be), then come back here a continue your fine contributions on this forum.

 

Rant over my friend!

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We are the Saints family,and families have disagreements all the time,but at the end of the day we all love our club,we are drawn to talk to each other through this website as a way of expressing our views,our hopes and fears ..and our dislikes! Not everyone is thick skinned and lippy, so just think before you really hurt someone by posting aputdown when they have tried to share with the rest of us something we didn't know...definately group hug and get down to the real nitty gritty of getting behind our Club in very difficult times and insulting the club down the road!!

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do amaze me.

 

Last week I posted an answer on Trousers's questioning thread concerning Pulis jnr. What I posted I knew to be 99.9% fact and yet one poster ridiculed it and called it bull****.

I pm'ed him offering to reveal my source and complete the story (which was and still is a little sensitive). I said I would tell him if he kept it condfidential and once he had possesion of the facts would he edit the bull**** bit. Thought that was a reasonable offer.

 

The person never even bothered to reply even though he has been a regular visitor on here since. I pm'ed him again this afternoon just in case he missed my first message but he has chosen not to reply. His right off course but wouldn';t it have been best if he hadn't made his ignorant comment in the first place?

I do sometimes wonder the point of posting snippets if people rubbish it willy nilly and then don't even bother to find out more.

 

This forum has some great posters and it is a good place to let off steam, find out things and generally chat to other Saints addicts but some do nothing than insult and wind up hiding behind keyboards while wallowing in their anonyminity.

 

Tbh I don't feel the point any more of posting things on here - can't be bothered with the crap. Perhaps I will just pm the people on here who are genuine with things I get to hear.

I will lurk - after all this forum can be addictive, but that will be it, contribution wise for a while once this thread has run its course. Thank God I hear some say. :)

 

I used to judge people by the way they are to children when they think no one is watching. For instance, small child in queue, adult pushes in front of them. We have all seen many times but that action tells all about that person, ie cowardly, selfish etc.

 

I now judge people by how they are on internet forums and it is easy to spot saddos, fakes, egotists, attention seekers etc.

 

I think, although it is hard, that the idiots on this site, and you soon get to know who they are, are best totally ignored, as a lot of there purpose is to get a reaction, so why feed that.

 

So F. F. please keep posting.The reason i spend time on this site is to get a heads up on signings, or any interesting titbits on whats going on in the club. So any even remotely itks are the life blood of this site.

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I believe this is a consequence of the ITK takeover period and some of the info deliberately put out there, some looked to knock the credibility of the information and in turn the poster, the info was often simply passed on, yet the poster was picked apart and many demanded to know the source, sources more often than not can not be disclosed on a public forum due to the potential implications for the individual yet still it was demanded otherwise the info was not credible(to some), time would soon confirm credibility of the info but it was the need to know now factor that got some a little unecessary due to a very worrying period for our club.

 

I believe FF to be a credible poster along with a few others due to the circles they frequent, I think Wiltshire Saint is a nutbag and laugh at the majority of his posts and laugh harder at subsequent posts by those that believe him serious, all in all a decent mix of people on a forum that should not be taken too seriously.

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that in itself is...SAD

 

That is the trouble with writing something down, it makes it a statement, with no context, so can be taken as a mission statement of my life. ie my whole means of judging people is how they act on an internet forum. Or ie. may just be a passing comment that people can show there true colours when they are able to feel no consequences etc.

 

I do agree how ever that i must be sad in that i have attempted to justify my statement, which was just an attempt to give support to a credible poster.

 

Any way Delldays, i do hope you have a good day!

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do amaze me.

 

Last week I posted an answer on Trousers's questioning thread concerning Pulis jnr. What I posted I knew to be 99.9% fact and yet one poster ridiculed it and called it bull****.

I pm'ed him offering to reveal my source and complete the story (which was and still is a little sensitive). I said I would tell him if he kept it condfidential and once he had possesion of the facts would he edit the bull**** bit. Thought that was a reasonable offer.

 

The person never even bothered to reply even though he has been a regular visitor on here since. I pm'ed him again this afternoon just in case he missed my first message but he has chosen not to reply. His right off course but wouldn';t it have been best if he hadn't made his ignorant comment in the first place?

I do sometimes wonder the point of posting snippets if people rubbish it willy nilly and then don't even bother to find out more.

 

This forum has some great posters and it is a good place to let off steam, find out things and generally chat to other Saints addicts but some do nothing than insult and wind up hiding behind keyboards while wallowing in their anonyminity.

 

Tbh I don't feel the point any more of posting things on here - can't be bothered with the crap. Perhaps I will just pm the people on here who are genuine with things I get to hear.

I will lurk - after all this forum can be addictive, but that will be it, contribution wise for a while once this thread has run its course. Thank God I hear some say. :)

 

I didn't reply to you because, frankly, I didn't give a toss and when I read the PM I didn't have time to reply - having better things to do with my spare time and all that. My aim was to reply in full when I had the opportunity (ie, at work), thanking you for the offer of the info but to explain that it wouldn't really mean much to me so you would probably be better off keeping it to yourself if it was so sensitive.

 

Quite why you've now thrown a childish fit because someone didn't reply to you on an internet message board is quite puzzling to me and hopefully, on reflection, quite worrying to you.

 

For clarification, the idea that Pulis Jnr joined us because at some point in the past Pulis Snr nearly joined us did strike me as bullsh1t, hence my inital reply.

 

What a bizzare way to start a Tuesday :confused:

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I didn't reply to you because, frankly, I didn't give a toss and when I read the PM I didn't have time to reply - having better things to do with my spare time and all that. My aim was to reply in full when I had the opportunity (ie, at work), thanking you for the offer of the info but to explain that it wouldn't really mean much to me so you would probably be better off keeping it to yourself if it was so sensitive.

 

Quite why you've now thrown a childish fit because someone didn't reply to you on an internet message board is quite puzzling to me and hopefully, on reflection, quite worrying to you.

 

For clarification, the idea that Pulis Jnr joined us because at some point in the past Pulis Snr nearly joined us did strike me as bullsh1t, hence my inital reply.

 

What a bizzare way to start a Tuesday :confused:

 

And a strange way to end a monday for some.....

 

Not really Marky - some people do have lives away from the internet, believe it or not!

 

Surely NOT!

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I didn't reply to you because, frankly, I didn't give a toss and when I read the PM I didn't have time to reply - having better things to do with my spare time and all that. My aim was to reply in full when I had the opportunity (ie, at work), thanking you for the offer of the info but to explain that it wouldn't really mean much to me so you would probably be better off keeping it to yourself if it was so sensitive.

 

Quite why you've now thrown a childish fit because someone didn't reply to you on an internet message board is quite puzzling to me and hopefully, on reflection, quite worrying to you.

 

For clarification, the idea that Pulis Jnr joined us because at some point in the past Pulis Snr nearly joined us did strike me as bullsh1t, hence my inital reply.

 

What a bizzare way to start a Tuesday :confused:

 

Let's get this right - someone (FF) who has a history of getting good information puts some of it the public domain. You on the other hand call it bullsh1t on no knowledge whatsoever, but on a number of weak assumptions where there is little justification for those assumptions.

 

Presumably you think Pullis Jr was signed because we'd scouted him and liked what we saw? Thats what I call bullsh1t.

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I tend to talk bollix most of the time..and SOME of the time I am wrong...most famously by starting a thread STATING Wotte will keep us up...

 

LOL

 

what is the point of this place if some are not prepared to put their views 'out there' for others to chew over..some are utter bollix some are pretty close to the mark..

 

it is for others to choose what to believe..

 

dont be put off FF...

 

A real 'man' - happy to admit he was wrong - I salute you sir - I wish I could say the same, but as I am always right it would be inaccurate! ;-) Nah, full of sh*t at times like most posters on hear - but that's the appeal - the banter, debate, even at time infantile meanness plays its part in the entertainment... Think X factor early shows... you know when its like a Victorian freak show - we all do it now and again as we let off steam.

 

There is always going to be a problem with 'the rumourmill' posts - because often the source may be impeccable ...but in turn be wrong... We all know Duncs is well placed - and has a much higher accuracy record than most, but even he will get it wrong sometimes... its whne that happens that the I find the victimisation and mean spirited ness of some posters way OTT - come on we all know who teh bullshi**rs are and who are genuine but now and again get it wrong... It would be pretty sad if the 'mob' mentality means good posters decide to hang up their boots - anyway it should all calm down a bit when the kids go back to school!

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ive met loads from this site and all have been fine.Ok 20 or more were during the forum match , but they were sound the lot of them.As for FF, do you think you are being a bit too sensitive? You know your words are read because you haqve access to many people most dont, so why need the reassurance on here of fans aksing you to keep posting.I will always read your stuff and im sure the majority do as well, your thread about the Pompey deal is stil going strong on the Lounge, so top marks

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Let's get this right - someone (FF) who has a history of getting good information puts some of it the public domain. You on the other hand call it bullsh1t on no knowledge whatsoever, but on a number of weak assumptions where there is little justification for those assumptions.

 

Presumably you think Pullis Jr was signed because we'd scouted him and liked what we saw? Thats what I call bullsh1t.

 

Whereas you think we signed him to honour an agreement, made by a person no longer in control at Saints at the time, with a person with no connection to the club other than that he was a potential managerial candidate at some point in the past? Bizarre.

 

Coincidentally, the player signed was young-ish and cheap and at the time we had a policy of filling the team with young and cheap players. We were also selling a player to the club of Mr Pulis so had the option to take a cheap punt on this box-ticking young lad.

 

Well, frankly one does sound like bull**** and one doesn't.

 

Maybe Torres could have been a bit more friendly with the way he posted it but this is a football messageboard FFS.

 

If you are going to post nudge-nudge wink-wink Machiavellian conspiracy posts that fly in the face of a much more logical explanation and are not prepared to back up the said theory on the same public forum then expect, quite justifiably, to have the finger of bull**** waved in your face.

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Duncan

 

I just like to say I enjoy reading most of the threads in which you contribute, and like many believe I can sort through the wheat from the chaff.

 

Don't take it so personally...these plebs are not worthy of your ire and frustration. What a waste of time "pm'ing" someone on here to offer proof.

 

Life is too short, and i's hard enough being a Saints fan at the moment, without all the other stress of pleasing everyone!

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There are some posters on here whose input I value highly and always make a point of reading. FF falls in that category and I do hope that he continues to post. There are a number here whom I consider to be wind up merchants or deliberately argumentative and I tend to ignore their posts. It is a question of individual choice.

 

Personally FF I think you should have 'ignored' who you perceive to be the offender and get on with posting your messages for which I think the majority here look forward to and respect.

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Sorry I just think this whole thread is making mountains out of molehills !

 

People post any news, rumour, intelligence, whatever - and its there for debate, counter-argument or even outright disagreement, depending how strongly you feel.

 

Not everybody agrees or wants to leap on any particular bandwagon just because somebody in particular posts it - credible poster or not. Even credible posters are not right all the time ( Anybody remember Saint Marc) !!

 

Lets keep things in perspective shall we.

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If you read and post regularly on here it does not take long to realise who are credible (even if they are sometimes off the mark) and who are the ****s. All I do is put the ****s led by sumdunce/numpty canteen on ignore and it is very satisfying and I do not feel I am missing out on anything.

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Believe he has now moved onto Jap birds

 

I have met-

 

Lungs

Stevegrant

The9

Ash (i think? goaly? Hockey pads?)

Minty

Baj

 

 

That is about it, and i owe Um Pahars a few beers still i believe

 

What about me, I'm saddend you forgot that dark ally ;-)

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FF,

 

I rely on this site for my Saints news-fix and despite not posting much I visit several times a day. Genuine 'lurkers' like myself (20-odd posts in over 2 years FFS) rely on posters like yourself for snippets that we'd struggle to get anywhere else. If posters like yourself who are prepared to stick your neck out and take some flack become 'lurkers' too, then the value of this forum would diminish.

 

I guess what I'm saying is for every member who pxsses you off, there's any number of 'silent' members who are grateful for your input.

 

What he said, don’t let the wasters turn this forum into a waste of time. I wonder if the mods could some how help with some of the OT posts that turn threads into vendettas, but then maybe we should be reporting them to help out. I'm all for freedom of speech but mud slinging vitriol should not be included as far as I am concerned.

 

I don’t post often but I am a frequent visitor that is getting more and more bored of the niggling arguments that turn good threads into gibberish. I don’t know much about what goes on without this kind of info; it would be a real shame if the sources died off because of it.

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What about me, I'm saddend you forgot that dark ally ;-)

 

Apologies

 

I had forgotten about the 5-a-side fighter!

 

Not sure i ever did apologise for a no show a while back......Little Theo Walcott was on a hat-trick and the beer kept flowing, no battery etc.

 

Lots of Love

 

s_s

 

xxx

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Donkey punch?

 

I bumped into The9 in Swindon (i know his name, choosing not to use it ;)...) and he accused me of winding people up on 'ere. Which is also something i like to do in reality, and have some good banter.

 

But all in good jest of course

 

Oh noes, IRL convo outed. The shame...

 

-1

 

etc.

 

And his name isn't Steve either. ;)

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Apologies

 

I had forgotten about the 5-a-side fighter!

 

Not sure i ever did apologise for a no show a while back......Little Theo Walcott was on a hat-trick and the beer kept flowing, no battery etc.

 

Lots of Love

 

s_s

 

xxx

 

You and your bloody cliques on here...

:rolleyes:

 

You've met The Banana Factor...

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