Guest Dark Sotonic Mills Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 Just because Bizzle has Islamic and gay traits doesn't mean he actually is one of those things. He says he's straight, non-Islamic and averages over 94% in his Bristol University degree and we should believe him. You are absolutely right, of course. I understand he may be the next Pope as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 Just because Bizzle has Islamic and gay traits doesn't mean he actually is one of those things. He says he's straight, non-Islamic and averages over 94% in his Bristol University degree and we should believe him. I didn't realise Bristol did degrees in being a ***t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 Over a million play in the UK and if I remember rightly, 5 million in the US. HTH Sorry can't believe that and I see far to many courses with far too few individuals on them and yet Hampshire is struggling to find where to build the Government's new homes quota its been allocated. Golf is elitest and takes up far to much space for too few. Flatten a few courses and build some decent local authority managed sports facilities and leisure centres with pools of a size that may help increase our swimming successes for example. A few really decent sports centres with a variety of pitches, tennis courts, large pool, 8 lane athletics tracks with full field capability etc etc would take up less room that an 18 hole par 3 let alone full size course and be used by at least 10 times the amount of people who are looking for affordable leisure facilities than the funny troused ones. Of course the other advantage you wouldn't be turned away if you were under 18 or someone who choses to wear the uniform of the working classes - jeans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 Shouldn't this discussion be in the lounge or Golfing Monthly forum or something similar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 At least 1 in 50. Don't forget there are 3.3 million anglers in the country so I expect more than 1 million play golf. So why are all the course's empty and almost exclusively patronised by white males? We don't need as many golf courses IMO and we certainly need far better facilities that better reflect all of British society today. Why does golf seem so overtly white at a club level compared with Football, Cricket and Atheletics for instance but yet school playing fields and council pitches are being swallowed up for housing and not these posh golf courses. Food for thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 Over a million play in the UK and if I remember rightly, 5 million in the US. HTH It's over four times that figure St Will. From the British Golf Association in January of this year: The number of golfers in Great Britain who play on a full length course remains just under the 4 million mark. This figure is supplemented by recreational golfers who do not play at full length courses, pushing the total number of adults in Great Britain who play some form of golf to just over 4 million. This equates to a participation rate of approximately 8% of the adult population. Golf certainly is no minority sport and amongst men the participation levels are comparable with football!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 Shouldn't this discussion be in the lounge or Golfing Monthly forum or something similar? Probably, but it's a worthy discussion so I shall keep going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 Sorry can't believe that and I see far to many courses with far too few individuals on them and yet Hampshire is struggling to find where to build the Government's new homes quota its been allocated. Golf is elitest and takes up far to much space for too few. Flatten a few courses and build some decent local authority managed sports facilities and leisure centres with pools of a size that may help increase our swimming successes for example. A few really decent sports centres with a variety of pitches, tennis courts, large pool, 8 lane athletics tracks with full field capability etc etc would take up less room that an 18 hole par 3 let alone full size course and be used by at least 10 times the amount of people who are looking for affordable leisure facilities than the funny troused ones. Of course the other advantage you wouldn't be turned away if you were under 18 or someone who choses to wear the uniform of the working classes - jeans. Are you some sort of Communist? The golf courses you are talking about are privately owned, on privately owned land. Any that are under local authority control run contrary to your argument about elitism and most don't discriminate about dress code and anybody can play there on payment of a green fee. Either you're being a bit thick here, or you're trolling for a reaction again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 Why do people feel the need to respond to such blatant acts of trolling ???? Sigh, he must be in his psychiatric ward p*ssing himself, probably literally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 So why are all the course's empty and almost exclusively patronised by white males? We don't need as many golf courses IMO and we certainly need far better facilities that better reflect all of British society today. Why does golf seem so overtly white at a club level compared with Football, Cricket and Atheletics for instance but yet school playing fields and council pitches are being swallowed up for housing and not these posh golf courses. Food for thought. I wouldn't say courses are empty, I couldn't get a tee off time this weekend when I phoned Bramshaw, as it was so packed. Private golf clubs are companies, so the government can't really go in and throw their weight around. And as you're such a man of the people, surely public golf courses should be left well alone, as they're for the common man. The reason council pitches etc are used is because they are owned by the state. If the government had built more municipal golf courses originally, then they would have that room to build on now. Food for thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 It's over four times that figure St Will. From the British Golf Association in January of this year: The number of golfers in Great Britain who play on a full length course remains just under the 4 million mark. This figure is supplemented by recreational golfers who do not play at full length courses, pushing the total number of adults in Great Britain who play some form of golf to just over 4 million. This equates to a participation rate of approximately 8% of the adult population. Golf certainly is no minority sport and amongst men the participation levels are comparable with football!!!!!!! When was the last time you saw the Bruce Forsyth types play football? You throw out the stats as usual Um but with no analysis whatsover. Numbers don't always tell the full story but IMO that is why you probably ended up teaching accountancy as oppose to remaining an FD. I would argue from experience that many, probabaly the majority, of that 4 million play maybe less than 6 rounds a year. The age range is from 18 to 100 and mid week where are all these 'young retired types' because they ain't playing golf. Playing football regularly for 90 mins on full size pitches is not the reserve for the man over 40 with a waist size to match but those who play football probably play 5 times more often than the casual golfer so your comparison is ill founded. If we closed a few sports centres and took away more inner city green belt sites for housing what do you think will happen to those youths who used the facilities regularly?. Time to bulldoze a few courses and see if we have a rise in sand wedge crime or open the clubs to all and add facilities for all sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 When was the last time you saw the Bruce Forsyth types play football? You throw out the stats as usual Um but with no analysis whatsover. Numbers don't always tell the full story but IMO that is why you probably ended up teaching accountancy as oppose to remaining an FD. I would argue from experience that many, probabaly the majority, of that 4 million play maybe less than 6 rounds a year. The age range is from 18 to 100 and mid week where are all these 'young retired types' because they ain't playing golf. Playing football regularly for 90 mins on full size pitches is not the reserve for the man over 40 with a waist size to match but those who play football probably play 5 times more often than the casual golfer so your comparison is ill founded. If we closed a few sports centres and took away more inner city green belt sites for housing what do you think will happen to those youths who used the facilities regularly?. Time to bulldoze a few courses and see if we have a rise in sand wedge crime or open the clubs to all and add facilities for all sports. What's wrong with sports that are only played by those people? Just because it isn't a working class sport does not make it any less worthy of being a sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 Why do people feel the need to respond to such blatant acts of trolling ???? Sigh, he must be in his psychiatric ward p*ssing himself, probably literally Would it be funnier if I had a brain tumour or early on set Alzhiemers or Parkinsons? If I get to the stage where I can't control the flow of my own urine then I guess you will know why I have stopped posting. But until that day.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 Would it be funnier if I had a brain tumour or early on set Alzhiemers or Parkinsons? If I get to the stage where I can't control the flow of my own urine then I guess you will know why I have stopped posting. But until that day.... i wish you had alzhiemers, then you may forget your log in details Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 i wish you had alzhiemers, then you may forget your log in details Rebecca Wood Alzheimer's Research Trust Freepost Canterbury CT1 3AA You may want to contact Rebecca and make a donation or ask for details of this year's Christmas cards. Fate can be a curious thing and after your recent comments you may want to lend a helping hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seany S Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 This thread is awesome. Am still laughing at the tache guy justifying comments made at a football match by saying he made them using "techniques" gleaned from reading Mike Brearley and Sun f***ing Tzu. I would love St Will to elaborate on what he was actually saying during the match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 Amazing, an entire thread dedicated to satire unless i'm giving you all far too much credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 Now now chaps Don't mix your non-PC's. Repeat after me, Gay is not a world that exists in Islam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 Rebecca Wood Alzheimer's Research Trust Freepost Canterbury CT1 3AA You may want to contact Rebecca and make a donation or ask for details of this year's Christmas cards. Fate can be a curious thing and after your recent comments you may want to lend a helping hand. Given up on the golf argument? Wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 What's wrong with sports that are only played by those people? Just because it isn't a working class sport does not make it any less worthy of being a sport. Let's not muddy the waters with the word "sport" when referencing golf, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 Are you some sort of Communist? The golf courses you are talking about are privately owned, on privately owned land. Any that are under local authority control run contrary to your argument about elitism and most don't discriminate about dress code and anybody can play there on payment of a green fee. Either you're being a bit thick here, or you're trolling for a reaction again. Communist Wes? No not all but maybe an idealist who would like to see an equitable and fair system for all. Golf course's maybe built on private land but they still need planning permission and it can't be argued that they don't take up valuable land. Two courses within 15 miles of each of other in North Hampshire are still relatively new and yet the planners deemed them worthy causes and to replace valuable arable land in a time of increasing global food shortages and increasing populations mean we may no longer be able to rely on grain and rice imports. Eat or play golf because my guess is planning applications are still going in up and down the country for new courses. Extreme? Probably but when its sometimes difficult to get even minor work approved to your own property it does make you wonder how we can increase our food imports for the benefit of golfers. How do these courses get planning applications in the first place when in Hampshire near to one of the courses I was refering too the building of a new Hampshire 'green town' was refused in probably the most ideal site in the county and if we are going to give up valuable arable resources surely it's better to provide green housing opportunities for our young families than build golf courses? My opinion is that these planning applications are 'massaged' on the golf courses and there is for some reason still a masonic element to golf and the need for the British to emulate the Americans and conduct their affairs whilst hitting a little white ball with a stick over 4 miles. To make it relevant to Saints where do you think MLT first discussed the endorsement of Pinnacle? I don't know but IMO you could make an educated guess and it wouldn't be Pinnacle's HQ. IMO he probably knew more Lynam's short game than the indentities of the backers and the structure of the deal. That is why there is so much wrong with golf and that so much land is given over to the exclusive few whose primary aim is to belong to the club and not the opportunity to play golf Finally, we come to the point that membership appears to be made up by an overwhelming majority of middle aged white men and I notice no one has tackled that issue and the obviuos difference between golf and say Football, Athletics and Cricket. I don't have Um like statistics to back this up but I often buy local papers like the Chronicle, Advertiser, Gazette and the Journal and the local news and pictures from the various local clubs rarely shows any members from an ethic background. Personally, I find that worrying but sadly not surprsing. So Wes, not a communist just someone who feels the game has a place but not to the degree it has been allowed to take off especially when it has been allowed to foster it's exclusive and fussy image. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 St Will, next time you see Kadeem Harderington at a match I really think you should take a photo and then disseminate it to all local youth clubs and golf clubs as this man shouldn't be allowed to pray on novice golfers who know no better than to hand their hard-earned to him for some of his motivational "mind bullets". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 Let's not muddy the waters with the word "sport" when referencing golf, please. Exactly, you don't exactly need an electrolyte replacement drink after a round of golf or game of darts or snooker. Golf is pastime like scrabble or bowls and for middle aged men to take up when their waist size exceeds their chest size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 Given up on the golf argument? Wise. No and you can call me nineteen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 Only Nineteen could troll with such excellence, picking on a thread about football violence and writing a thesis on the the social demographics of Golf and simultaneously introducing viewpoints on planning and World agricultural suffiency. I think that he missed a trick though by not mentioning how the manicured landscape of the golf course has lessened the variety of flora and fauna that would have been found in the more natural landscape. :smt019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 Only Nineteen could troll with such excellence, picking on a thread about football violence and writing a thesis on the the social demographics of Golf and simultaneously introducing viewpoints on planning and World agricultural suffiency. I think that he missed a trick though by not mentioning how the manicured landscape of the golf course has lessened the variety of flora and fauna that would have been found in the more natural landscape. :smt019 I thought about it but was keeping that one up my sleeve. Do you think golf courses maybe attributable to the decline in the British bee population? Nothing for them to eat and a load of aimless swotting hardly conducive to developing our eco-system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 I thought about it but was keeping that one up my sleeve. Do you think golf courses maybe attributable to the decline in the British bee population? Nothing for them to eat and a load of aimless swotting hardly conducive to developing our eco-system. There were quite a few Bees at St Mary's on Saturday and if you're going to talk about swotting them, you need to post on the other thread, "after the match" Nothing for them to eat? Southampton has a reasonable selection of restaurants and surely their part of the concourse also sells pies too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 I am entering this discussion simply to say it may well be the (inadvertently) funniest thread I've ever read on here. It has everything - golf, politics, religion, social housing, dress sense, homophobia, and even a whiff of pedophilia (not sure how that got in there). It was good before Kadeem reached the inexplicable decision to confess guilt, but even better after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCholulaKid Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 Best thread in a long time. Some really not very bright people on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windmill Arm 2 Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 I did give him a mucky look, but I was with a girl and I'm not a gobsh1te I reckon said goateed tactician could have you square go. If you have a problem, why not just tell him?? if your not going to do that, then why not shut up about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 That sounds like you are talking about me. My instructions weren't negative. I come from a sports coaching background (golf) and know exactly how to get the best out of sports people, thank you very much. The players can't actually hear you, you know. Not with 19000 other people shouting "instructions". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 I thought about it but was keeping that one up my sleeve. Do you think golf courses maybe attributable to the decline in the British bee population? Nothing for them to eat and a load of aimless swotting hardly conducive to developing our eco-system. Just out of interest what is your handicap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 Just out of interest what is your handicap? Oh, sh*t. Here we go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seany S Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 The players can't actually hear you, you know. Not with 19000 other people shouting "instructions". Ahhh but Trader, you forget that he uses special techniques learned from Mike Brearley and Sun Tzu. Go on - listen to the subtle intonation. This guy is like some sort of dog whisperer, only for sportsmen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 Just out of interest what is your handicap? I saw what you did there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 Oh, sh*t. Here we go. I play off 12, I am just interested in what he may play off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 I play off 12, I am just interested in what he may play off. He's the pocket billiards champion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 Incidentally, the things I was shouting contained very motivating techniques. I have read many psychology books on coaching and have modified my language to use such tecniques - so much so that such language often comes naturally to me when I am watching football. Try reading Mike Brearley's The Art of Captaincy or Sun Tzu's The Art of War and you will notice the subtle language that I was using. At least educate yourself before you criticise. See, when I read this I thought you were an idiot, just name checking books, but I do have to humbly apologise. I was wrong, because as you can see below, you are in good company with your beliefs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 I would quite like to be in Paris right now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 I would quite like to be in Paris right now... Pourquoi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano6 Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 Yeah it was definitely you, cuz you sound as daft on here as you did at the football! I am a pro, but I'm not claiming to be famous, I play mini-tour golf, but having worked with pretty much every coach with any pedigree in this country, barring Dennis (the destroyer) Pugh, I can confirm I haven't seen or heard of you before, so you must be booked up with ladies and 28 handicappers. As someone else said, it was you who was drawing attention to yourself and your son, and when I turned round to see who was shouting complete nonsense, I couldn't help but notice your son looked embarrased to be associated with ya. Probably cuz I was one of about 20 people unfortunate enough to sit near you who were looking round, wandering "what on earth are you talking about?!". LOL!!! Mini-golf!!! Even I play at a higher standard than you!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bath Saint Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 Just because Bizzle has Islamic and gay traits doesn't mean he actually is one of those things. He says he's straight, non-Islamic and averages over 94% in his Bristol University degree and we should believe him. I take exception to these lies. I am a Professor of History at the University of Bristol. I have just been through the averages for each cohort over the last five years and the highest score anyone averaged was 93%! So, unless 'Bizzle' (if that really is his name) graduated more than five years ago, he must be lying. He could well be a muslim and gay, as such people are readily accepted at our institution. However, we do not accept people who are thick enough to hold misogynistic views (the 93% was scored by a woman!!!) so I doubt whether he even did attend Bristol. We do have a TK Maxx in the city, so he could well be telling the truth about his satorial taste.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 I take exception to these lies. I am a Professor of History at the University of Bristol. .. I'm guessing it would be UWE!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Will Posted 24 August, 2009 Author Share Posted 24 August, 2009 LOL!!! Mini-golf!!! Even I play at a higher standard than you!! Mini TOUR golf, not mini golf!! A mini tour is a professional tour that doesn't have the major sponsors and prize funds of the main tours you see on tv. It's not mini golf! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bentley Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 The amount of WUM's in this thread is staggering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bath Saint Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 I'm guessing it would be UWE!!!!!! Oh. We call it the University of Woe (West of England). I'm sure that at that august institution, 94% is regarded as a rather low attainment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 Oh. We call it the University of Woe (West of England). I'm sure that at that august institution, 94% is regarded as a rather low attainment. LOL, you get 90% just for completing the front page of your exam paper at those places!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 LOL!!! Mini-golf!!! Even I play at a higher standard than you!! Idiot, he said mini-tour, as in children. Still, just because he's won a few trophies at that age group, doesn't give him the right to criticise a professional instructor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 Oh. We call it the University of Woe (West of England). I'm sure that at that august institution, 94% is regarded as a rather low attainment. Bloody elitists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 24 August, 2009 Share Posted 24 August, 2009 Pourquoi? You're right. I'd be in Seine, wouldn't I? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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