derry Posted 19 August, 2009 Posted 19 August, 2009 A lot has been said on the after match threads about Pardew's body language etc. In the Echo Cortese has said that the Director of Football will be in total charge of the football side. In the Echo Pardew welcomed a Director of Football but said that he had to be in charge with the D o F subservient. Maybe Cortese has spelt this out and Pardew won't be in overall charge after the D o F arrives and will be reporting to him as set out by Cortese in his interview. I can't see that working.
Scudamore Posted 19 August, 2009 Posted 19 August, 2009 Undermining our new board as well as the management set up now are we?
Scummer Posted 19 August, 2009 Posted 19 August, 2009 Or maybe Pardew just isn't particularly excitable?
Give it to Ron Posted 19 August, 2009 Posted 19 August, 2009 If the DOF can bring in 2 great lumps who can actually defend they will get my vote! Why is it no manager apart from Pearson who got in Lucketti can see this? For nearly 5 years we have failed to address the centre half issue in our team - its no good bringing in ball playing individual youngsters if we never have the ball in the first place!
Torres Posted 19 August, 2009 Posted 19 August, 2009 Or maybe your imagination is a little overactive?
S-Clarke Posted 19 August, 2009 Posted 19 August, 2009 Pardew has been aware of the plans to appoint a DoF since his interview before he got the job. Cortese first statement indicated that we would appointed a ''DoF'' figure. He knew about it. If he didn't like the idea he would have said no to the job.
derry Posted 19 August, 2009 Author Posted 19 August, 2009 Undermining our new board as well as the management set up now are we? No. I didn't fill two and a half pages of the Echo on successive nights with two completely differing scenarios. Cortese spelt it out and the next night Pardew insisted he would be in charge. Unless Cortese has been fundamentally misquoted he won't be.
kpturner Posted 19 August, 2009 Posted 19 August, 2009 In the Echo Pardew welcomed a Director of Football but said that he had to be in charge with the D o F subservient.He didn't say that the D o F would have to be subservient to him in the interview I saw. He just said that he (AP) would have to be responsible for the selection of players and the setting of the agenda on the playing side. Well that goes without saying really. I would see the D o F as the person who deals with the transfers, fielding the agents calls etc etc. AP would tell him what/who he wants and then can get back on to working with the team while the D o F gets on with making it happen. In the quote he did say "general manager" rather than D o F, but one would hope that Cortese and AP would have already discussed it. “The job is very, very difficult and this is why the mention of a general manager here to take some of that burden away from the manager as we go forward probably wouldn’t be a bad thing,” he said. It worked for us with Alan Ball and LM didn't it?
derry Posted 19 August, 2009 Author Posted 19 August, 2009 (edited) He didn't say that the D o F would have to be subservient to him in the interview I saw. He just said that he (AP) would have to be responsible for the selection of players and the setting of the agenda on the playing side. Well that goes without saying really. I would see the D o F as the person who deals with the transfers, fielding the agents calls etc etc. AP would tell him what/who he wants and then can get back on to working with the team while the D o F gets on with making it happen. In the quote he did say "general manager" rather than D o F, but one would hope that Cortese and AP would have already discussed it. “The job is very, very difficult and this is why the mention of a general manager here to take some of that burden away from the manager as we go forward probably wouldn’t be a bad thing,” he said. It worked for us with Alan Ball and LM didn't it? Cortese said that the D of F would decide all football matters including recruitment and the Manager would report to him. The next night Pardew came out with the opposing and understandable view. The term General Manager was introduced then by Pardew. Cortese was very precise about the D of F deciding all football matters and reporting to him. Edited 19 August, 2009 by derry
kpturner Posted 19 August, 2009 Posted 19 August, 2009 Cortese said that the D of F would decide all football matters including recruitment and the Manager would report to him. The next night Pardew came out with the opposing and understandable view. The term General Manager was introduced then by Pardew. Cortese was very precise about the D of F deciding all football matters and reporting to him.Yeah but personally I think that you may be seeing a problem that isn't there. I hope so. Depends what you mean by "football matters". Clearly if the D o F is going to be poking around in the coaching and the team then it won't work, but I can't believe that is the case. I think it will mean that AP is on sole charge of the team, coaching, who is picked to play etc etc and the D o F will handle all the other aspects like transfer negotiations etc. AP is subservient to Cortese, so what is the problem with him being subservient to somebody who understands more about the world of football than Cortese does. Both Cortese and AP need someone like this - Cortese because he is not from a football background and AP because he is too swamped with stuff that deflects him from dealing solely with the team etc. IMHO of course.
ruddick Posted 19 August, 2009 Posted 19 August, 2009 Cortese said that the D of F would decide all football matters including recruitment and the Manager would report to him. The next night Pardew came out with the opposing and understandable view. The term General Manager was introduced then by Pardew. Cortese was very precise about the D of F deciding all football matters and reporting to him. Sorry - now I would hate to think Saints Web members would ever put words in peoples mouths. But you have! Sporting Director is a term the Echo have used and Cortese never used that term or the term D of F. He has said as currently it is him and Pardew running everything inc Nicola actually calling potential players and their agents and that to make the process easier there would be an advisory board helping him and one of those would be someone with a knowledge of football to help be a bridge between Nicola and Pardew. That is what Pardew then said in his interview would make things, esp. transfer periods, easier. http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/4547838.Saints_to_go_for_a__sporting_director_/
Gordon Mockles Posted 19 August, 2009 Posted 19 August, 2009 Don't let a bit of sensationalism blur reality. Worry about problems when they DO actually occur and then deal with them, not before. Life would be pretty tedious if we pondered on potential problems that hadn't even happened!!
krissyboy31 Posted 19 August, 2009 Posted 19 August, 2009 No different than any other business or company IMO. Directorate reporting to the CEO, Upper management reporting to the Directorate and lower/middle management reporting to the upper management. In this case CEO is Cortese, the Directorate is the so far unnamed Sporting Director, the upper management is Pardew and lower/middle management is Wilkins and the other coaching staff. In affect the SD is AP's boss but in the org. chart is currently TBA.
derry Posted 19 August, 2009 Author Posted 19 August, 2009 (edited) Yeah but personally I think that you may be seeing a problem that isn't there. I hope so. Depends what you mean by "football matters". Clearly if the D o F is going to be poking around in the coaching and the team then it won't work, but I can't believe that is the case. I think it will mean that AP is on sole charge of the team, coaching, who is picked to play etc etc and the D o F will handle all the other aspects like transfer negotiations etc. AP is subservient to Cortese, so what is the problem with him being subservient to somebody who understands more about the world of football than Cortese does. Both Cortese and AP need someone like this - Cortese because he is not from a football background and AP because he is too swamped with stuff that deflects him from dealing solely with the team etc. IMHO of course. Did you read the full Cortese interview? It was very precise and pedantic that the person appointed D of F would be in overall charge of all football related matters. I thought at the time that wouldn't fit well with Pardew. The following night what Pardew came up with was completely different, a General Manager to help him. Cortese never mentioned a GM. It was a double page interview and the answers were extensive. Cortese also spelt out that he was the man in charge and he was setting up a completely different infrastructure and that only the heads of departments would report to him and the Manager would report to the D of F who would be in charge. Edited 19 August, 2009 by derry
kpturner Posted 19 August, 2009 Posted 19 August, 2009 Did you read the full Cortese interview? It was very precise and pedantic that the person appointed D of F would be in overall charge of all football related matters. I thought at the time that wouldn't fit well with Pardew. The following night what Pardew came up with was completely different, a General Manager to help him. Cortese never mentioned a GM. It was a double page interview and the answers were extensive.Yes I read both interviews completely, but I didn't see anything that alarmed me at all - just a difference in terminology. I also read that AP and Cortese are in constant touch (texts and 6.00am etc) so I would like to think that they are both singing off the same songsheet - not deliberately making contradictory statements via the press. It would not be the first time a paper has tried to make a mountain out of a molehill (even if only by implication).
derry Posted 19 August, 2009 Author Posted 19 August, 2009 Sorry - now I would hate to think Saints Web members would ever put words in peoples mouths. But you have! Sporting Director is a term the Echo have used and Cortese never used that term or the term D of F. He has said as currently it is him and Pardew running everything inc Nicola actually calling potential players and their agents and that to make the process easier there would be an advisory board helping him and one of those would be someone with a knowledge of football to help be a bridge between Nicola and Pardew. That is what Pardew then said in his interview would make things, esp. transfer periods, easier. http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/4547838.Saints_to_go_for_a__sporting_director_/ Read it again, he would be Pardew's boss and responsible for football matters.
derry Posted 19 August, 2009 Author Posted 19 August, 2009 The main point of all this was Pardew's apparent lack of intervention and body language last night. I still see a potential problem unless AP is allowed complete autonomy in his decisions and the D of F is an assisting roll rather than an in charge roll. Time will tell.
Teddy Nutkins Posted 19 August, 2009 Posted 19 August, 2009 Ok fellas, let's expand this discussion/ argument out further.Let's say for instance someone like Steve Coppell was appointed D of F. How do you think AP would react and who would be the senior partner?
VectisSaint Posted 19 August, 2009 Posted 19 August, 2009 Read it again, he would be Pardew's boss and responsible for football matters. Note: (1) Sporting Director, not Director Football (2) Overseeing football matters - not day to day running (3) before next summer You are making an issue out of nothing, because you are not reading what the article says in the first paragraph.
derry Posted 19 August, 2009 Author Posted 19 August, 2009 Ok fellas, let's expand this discussion/ argument out further.Let's say for instance someone like Steve Coppell was appointed D of F. How do you think AP would react and who would be the senior partner? He would do for me but I think unless AP liked it and could work with him, any post that takes decisions out of his hands won't be welcomed.
kpturner Posted 19 August, 2009 Posted 19 August, 2009 The main point of all this was Pardew's apparent lack of intervention and body language last night.:confused: I don't understand. Are you saying that he is already demoralised about the possibility of this appointment next Summer and so cannot be bothered anymore (already)? By what you said in that post and the thread title it seems that is exactly what you are implying - correct?
derry Posted 19 August, 2009 Author Posted 19 August, 2009 Note: (1) Sporting Director, not Director Football (2) Overseeing football matters - not day to day running (3) before next summer You are making an issue out of nothing, because you are not reading what the article says in the first paragraph. Semantics, it says 'Pardew's boss'
MarkSFC Posted 19 August, 2009 Posted 19 August, 2009 Dave, I think you are worrying about nothing. When Cortese said the SD will sanction transfers, I interperate that as the SD has the final say on fees, wages, length of contract and whether that fits into the overall budget or not and make the "business decision". AP will make the "football decision" on who he wants, how they set up, preperation, etc......for me no conflict or confusion. I think the set-up will allow AP to devote all his time to the first team and his management team...and the SD will allow NC to devote his tiem to the company as a whole in regard to strategy and planning etc. The fact that the SD is "football savvy" to me means he is likely to be more along the lines of a Peter Kenyon than an Ex manager/player. Chill out and enjoy the next few years and TRUST the new people...I know trusting the owners/directors of our club has been difficult but times have changed.
derry Posted 19 August, 2009 Author Posted 19 August, 2009 :confused: I don't understand. Are you saying that he is already demoralised about the possibility of this appointment next Summer and so cannot be bothered anymore (already)? By what you said in that post and the thread title it seems that is exactly what you are implying - correct? Possibly an awareness that what he wants and what might be happening could if actioned cause problems. In his games up to now he has been very pro active with his input, last night he wasn't. Quite a few posters commented on the strange lack of input from the touchline, Burleyesque was the way some described it. The new boss would not have any input from him in the selection process. It would be quite easy even at this early stage to see that this is not necessarily what he wants. The appointment is before next summer and could come at any time Cortese finds for him, a suitable candidate. November could be a point in time it could happen, as I understand Coppell was offered the Managers job but wanted to take six months away from football, so turned it down.
OldNick Posted 19 August, 2009 Posted 19 August, 2009 i had the impression it is going to be WGS, that would make thingsd lively
ART Posted 19 August, 2009 Posted 19 August, 2009 I believe, having read reference to the appointment before the transfer window opens next summer that Pardew himself is who Cortese intends to appoint Director of Sport. That his current job is a learning curve for him prior to him taking on Director of Sport. This is often the continental way of making appointments. The sad thing is that we look like ending up with Pardew then appointing his side kick from Brighton Dean Wilkins as manager. Destiny tells me that Pardew will be gone by the end of November and it's certainly looking that way more and more with the start to things. Does anybody reckon we'd be without a win if Dennis Wise had been brought in. No way! I rue the day they didn't appoint Wise as manager.
derry Posted 19 August, 2009 Author Posted 19 August, 2009 Dave, I think you are worrying about nothing. When Cortese said the SD will sanction transfers, I interperate that as the SD has the final say on fees, wages, length of contract and whether that fits into the overall budget or not and make the "business decision". AP will make the "football decision" on who he wants, how they set up, preperation, etc......for me no conflict or confusion. I think the set-up will allow AP to devote all his time to the first team and his management team...and the SD will allow NC to devote his tiem to the company as a whole in regard to strategy and planning etc. The fact that the SD is "football savvy" to me means he is likely to be more along the lines of a Peter Kenyon than an Ex manager/player. Chill out and enjoy the next few years and TRUST the new people...I know trusting the owners/directors of our club has been difficult but times have changed. I'm not bothered in the slightest Mark. I'm still not sure about Pardew but time will tell. His lack of intervention was strange. Whatever you call the post, British managers don't take kindly to D of F style posts or interference from above. That is why very few clubs employ them.
derry Posted 19 August, 2009 Author Posted 19 August, 2009 I believe, having read reference to the appointment before the transfer window opens next summer that Pardew himself is who Cortese intends to appoint Director of Sport. That his current job is a learning curve for him prior to him taking on Director of Sport. This is often the continental way of making appointments. The sad thing is that we look like ending up with Pardew then appointing his side kick from Brighton Dean Wilkins as manager. Destiny tells me that Pardew will be gone by the end of November and it's certainly looking that way more and more with the start to things. Does anybody reckon we'd be without a win if Dennis Wise had been brought in. No way! I rue the day they didn't appoint Wise as manager. Could be. I presume that was Wise and Bassett after Redknapp went.
OldNick Posted 19 August, 2009 Posted 19 August, 2009 I believe, having read reference to the appointment before the transfer window opens next summer that Pardew himself is who Cortese intends to appoint Director of Sport. That his current job is a learning curve for him prior to him taking on Director of Sport. This is often the continental way of making appointments. The sad thing is that we look like ending up with Pardew then appointing his side kick from Brighton Dean Wilkins as manager. Destiny tells me that Pardew will be gone by the end of November and it's certainly looking that way more and more with the start to things. Does anybody reckon we'd be without a win if Dennis Wise had been brought in. No way! I rue the day they didn't appoint Wise as manager.You cant say that Wise would have improved things. I have been worried that we have not brought more players in and there is a bit of complacency with the fans up to now.I had flagged that we needed a good start.If we are not casreful we could be 15+ points adrift of safety very quickly.If that happens the stuff hits the fan on and off the pitch.We need decisive action, and get players in and out even if it means releasing them without a fee.I doubt Rasoiak and Saga are in the best frames of mind, cut them adrift if it is possible.
dubai_phil Posted 19 August, 2009 Posted 19 August, 2009 A lot has been said on the after match threads about Pardew's body language etc. In the Echo Cortese has said that the Director of Football will be in total charge of the football side. In the Echo Pardew welcomed a Director of Football but said that he had to be in charge with the D o F subservient. Maybe Cortese has spelt this out and Pardew won't be in overall charge after the D o F arrives and will be reporting to him as set out by Cortese in his interview. I can't see that working. At any point has anyone at the club said that we intend to appoint "A Director of Football"? And another one for the in-tray. Perhaps everybody had agreed on a Sporting Director and had made an offer around which a lot of the burden of managing the back office on the football side was based. And maybe he turned it down for non-footballing reasons? Leaving everybody with an un-expected burden that is causing strain?
benjii Posted 19 August, 2009 Posted 19 August, 2009 Do you honestly think the Sporting Director will be repsonsible for picking the team and tactics? Me neither.
RedAndWhite91 Posted 19 August, 2009 Posted 19 August, 2009 In my opinion the manager of the club HAS to be in charge of football matters with the DoF subservient... How many times have we seen a DoF disrupt things at other clubs. Dennis Wise at Newcastle caused obvious problems. And let's not forget Clive Woodward.
derry Posted 19 August, 2009 Author Posted 19 August, 2009 At any point has anyone at the club said that we intend to appoint "A Director of Football"? And another one for the in-tray. Perhaps everybody had agreed on a Sporting Director and had made an offer around which a lot of the burden of managing the back office on the football side was based. And maybe he turned it down for non-footballing reasons? Leaving everybody with an un-expected burden that is causing strain? The title is a red herring, whoever is appointed is going to be Pardew's boss and responsible for football matters. (possible Keegan/Wise situation)
Scudamore Posted 19 August, 2009 Posted 19 August, 2009 Destiny tells me that Pardew will be gone by the end of November and it's certainly looking that way more and more with the start to things. Does anybody reckon we'd be without a win if Dennis Wise had been brought in. No way! I rue the day they didn't appoint Wise as manager. I reckon Dennis Wise is a duffer. The only time he's been any good in a managerial role in fact is when Gus Poyet has been there to hold his hand. Now i'd have quite happily Poyet himself as manager. But that's a different matter. Oh and "destiny" isn't telling you anything...not entirely sure how it can actually...?
MarkSFC Posted 19 August, 2009 Posted 19 August, 2009 I'm not bothered in the slightest Mark. I'm still not sure about Pardew but time will tell. His lack of intervention was strange. Whatever you call the post, British managers don't take kindly to D of F style posts or interference from above. That is why very few clubs employ them. Wrong...they all have someone who will look after the business side of player recruitment and retention. They just change the title, CEO, Chairman, DOF, Sporting Director, etc etc. Agree....a lack of "intervention" seems strange but sometimes intervention is not actually what players need to see or hear. A change of "tact" on Pardews "on the run coaching method" (i.e. during performance) showa a good level of flexibility on his part. We do not know the discussions he has with his team...a good, decent coach will do what is best for individuals and a team...sometimes "less intervention" has better results. This clearly didnot work last night BUT his "more intervention" method did not work on Saturday. He needs time from everyone...especially us impatient fans who want success NOW!!! I must admit I was not excited initially by his appointment but everything he say has a freshness and openess about it, coupled with a high level of confidence and contentment in his own ability. The fact he spent time with Alex Fergusson displays a charcter who is always ready to learn and seeks opportunity. He will succeed with us...............lets hope the players do quickly, otherwise it will be an even bigger change of personell than is/has happened.
dubai_phil Posted 19 August, 2009 Posted 19 August, 2009 The title is a red herring, whoever is appointed is going to be Pardew's boss and responsible for football matters. (possible Keegan/Wise situation) So the argument is again the same one we have had for the past 10 years. Would we rather the Chairman had the authority to approve the requests of the football team management or would we prefer that a Director with experience had that authority. Take care with corporate structure terminology, there is a major difference between Directing and Managing. But his body language could EQUALLY be due to any of the facts that 1) NC hasn't been able to get the players he wants to sign due to inexperience 2) The SD is needed to ease AP's burden and they still haven't found one 3) They found one but he couldn't/wouldn't take the job for some reason 4) He was mad that nobody scouted Swindon for him 5) He like many of us knew that he had a pile of left-overs fit enough to put onto the pitch until the new guys come in 6) Somebody backed out of buying Saga/Rasiak meaning he missed out on another targetted signing OR some last ditch snag hit his second choice CB again 7) he may have had a row with his missus over the shopping bill....
derry Posted 19 August, 2009 Author Posted 19 August, 2009 Do you honestly think the Sporting Director will be repsonsible for picking the team and tactics? Me neither. He might not pick the team but he could dictate the style and which players are brought in, as has happened at clubs in the past. I would prefer a Manager in charge with a GM to take the load off the Manager's shoulders, responsible to and working with the Manager. Imposing a football boss on Pardew might be counterproductive unless they get on and work easily together.
Leslie Charteris Posted 19 August, 2009 Posted 19 August, 2009 This quote is a timely reminder that things do not always work out well: "After the death of Sir Bobby Robson, The Sun's Bob Harris wrote how Robson told him: "My biggest disappointment was Dennis Wise, a director of football who was hardly seen at the ground, and who brought in players who were neither suitable, nor right, for Newcastle United. I forgive most people, but I am not sure I can forgive Wise for what he did to my club.” Appoint with care, Mr Cortese!
Kingsbridge Saint Posted 19 August, 2009 Posted 19 August, 2009 What is the point of appointing a director of football at a club that currently has only two or three proper footballers?
benjii Posted 19 August, 2009 Posted 19 August, 2009 He might not pick the team but he could dictate the style and which players are brought in, as has happened at clubs in the past. I would prefer a Manager in charge with a GM to take the load off the Manager's shoulders, responsible to and working with the Manager. Imposing a football boss on Pardew might be counterproductive unless they get on and work easily together. This is true. He could also take bungs and get us relegated two divisions for financial irregularities. Probably not though.
derry Posted 19 August, 2009 Author Posted 19 August, 2009 So the argument is again the same one we have had for the past 10 years. Would we rather the Chairman had the authority to approve the requests of the football team management or would we prefer that a Director with experience had that authority. Take care with corporate structure terminology, there is a major difference between Directing and Managing. But his body language could EQUALLY be due to any of the facts that 1) NC hasn't been able to get the players he wants to sign due to inexperience 2) The SD is needed to ease AP's burden and they still haven't found one 3) They found one but he couldn't/wouldn't take the job for some reason 4) He was mad that nobody scouted Swindon for him 5) He like many of us knew that he had a pile of left-overs fit enough to put onto the pitch until the new guys come in 6) Somebody backed out of buying Saga/Rasiak meaning he missed out on another targetted signing OR some last ditch snag hit his second choice CB again 7) he may have had a row with his missus over the shopping bill.... In football terms the manager has to be happy with his chain of command. If that isn't working they usually walk. I prefer the old style manager in charge of all football principle. There have been some real debacles when people are brought into football matters over the managers head and don't work effectvely with the manager. Results are usually poor and conflictions affect the players.
yorkiesaint Posted 19 August, 2009 Posted 19 August, 2009 I think you missed the point of the director of football. As far as I see it Cortese saw that he was spending too much of his time running around after players and negotiating transfers, such that he had little time left for other matters. the DoF is to put this right, someone to deal with these football matters while Cortese runs the club. I'm sure AP is fine with this. As for APs body language- he is treading a thin line. He doesn't want to seem (to the players) that he is desperately unhappy with the team's performance because the players need all the confidence they can get. He knows that change will take weeks, and will not be brought about by a rant in one or two minutes half way through a match. I imagine he is reluctant to change things half way through because he doesn't want to cause confusion. Instead he is going to stick to the pre-match plan so that everyone knows what they're meant to be doing (even if they are sh*te at it!).
70's Mike Posted 19 August, 2009 Posted 19 August, 2009 If the DOF can bring in 2 great lumps who can actually defend they will get my vote! Why is it no manager apart from Pearson who got in Lucketti can see this? For nearly 5 years we have failed to address the centre half issue in our team - its no good bringing in ball playing individual youngsters if we never have the ball in the first place! nail on head Ron
agboola Posted 19 August, 2009 Posted 19 August, 2009 The Reading model was Madeski as owner; Nigel Howe as Chief Exec running it on his behalf; a Finance Director; Nicky Hammond as Director of Football, Steve Coppell as Manager. Sound familiar? Who did you associate with running the football side of things at Reading? When Coppell left, the rest stayed and the structure of the club stayed the same.
Professor Posted 19 August, 2009 Posted 19 August, 2009 The saddest thing about being a Saints fan, especially since the advent of web-based message boards, is that the constant search for someone to blame gets out of hand too quickly, and that people are able to spread discontent on the flimsiest basis. No Manager in professional football has freedom to spend the club's money on any player he likes. Managers are answerable to a board, either directly to the chairman, or through a designated director. According to the report, Cortese's plan is to move to that structure next summer. So why do people get excited.
derry Posted 19 August, 2009 Author Posted 19 August, 2009 The Reading model was Madeski as owner; Nigel Howe as Chief Exec running it on his behalf; a Finance Director; Nicky Hammond as Director of Football, Steve Coppell as Manager. Sound familiar? Who did you associate with running the football side of things at Reading? When Coppell left, the rest stayed and the structure of the club stayed the same. With everyone getting on and co-operating. If that's what we intend it's as good a way as any. It does need those sort of people.
Nineteen Canteen Posted 19 August, 2009 Posted 19 August, 2009 The Reading model was Madeski as owner; Nigel Howe as Chief Exec running it on his behalf; a Finance Director; Nicky Hammond as Director of Football, Steve Coppell as Manager. Sound familiar? Who did you associate with running the football side of things at Reading? When Coppell left, the rest stayed and the structure of the club stayed the same. Exactly. All Cortese is doing is appointing to the board a director responsible for football matters and the equivalent of Oldknow on the commercial side. Pardew will simply be accountable to the Sporting Director instead of Cortese and will not be required to attend board meetings because he is not a director but a manager of a football team. No doubt Pardew will need to have regular meetings with the Sporting director to appraise him of some form of SWOT analysis (Strengths, weaknesses, opportunities and threats) and will obviously need the SD's buy in for new funds or loan players based on those SWOT reports. In my view all it's doing is balancing out the pyramid of Cortese's chain of command and actually allows Pardew more time to focus on team affairs. Given the personalities involved I really think this is a non-issue and some of you are looking for problems that don't exist but I recognise that for some more hysterical and self-important managers who believe they are the club a DoF can be seen as a derogatory appointment. I don't think we have the Redknapp and Keegan types in our situation.
lordswoodsaints Posted 19 August, 2009 Posted 19 August, 2009 (edited) He didn't look a happy man last night his body language and attitude as well as his sh1te tactics gave it away. If I was a betting man I would say that the job he was promised doesn't do what it says on the label. Edited 19 August, 2009 by lordswoodsaints
theyin Posted 19 August, 2009 Posted 19 August, 2009 Dave, I think you are worrying about nothing. When Cortese said the SD will sanction transfers, I interperate that as the SD has the final say on fees, wages, length of contract and whether that fits into the overall budget or not and make the "business decision". AP will make the "football decision" on who he wants, how they set up, preperation, etc......for me no conflict or confusion. I think the set-up will allow AP to devote all his time to the first team and his management team...and the SD will allow NC to devote his tiem to the company as a whole in regard to strategy and planning etc. The fact that the SD is "football savvy" to me means he is likely to be more along the lines of a Peter Kenyon than an Ex manager/player. Chill out and enjoy the next few years and TRUST the new people...I know trusting the owners/directors of our club has been difficult but times have changed. A voice of reason. By the way , isn't this a shoe in for MLT?
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