yellow&blue Posted 20 August, 2009 Share Posted 20 August, 2009 Got my copy and it was worth the two hour wait. Read half the book while in the queue, excellent read so far - recommended!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 20 August, 2009 Share Posted 20 August, 2009 Are you even a Saints fan? What makes you think that it 'promies' to be such a 'lightweight tome?' I reckon you should read it before passing judgment. Fair question and my thoughts are based on MLT's comments in the Echo about how if he wrote a book he did not want to dish the dirt so to speak but concentrate on his football. He even mentioned he had no axe to grind with Lowe and no reason to comment either way or words to that effect. I know and watched MLTs career avidly and was hoping for the story behind the story the type that makes a really good autobiography that as far as I can understand is largely written by Hiley. So when is an autobiography not an autobiography? It promises to be a recount of pretty much what we already know and of little interest to knowledgeable fans or those who have a copy of In That Number. Of course I may be wrong but maybe it will be a bargain stocking filler come christmas. The Administration story however I will form an orderly queue now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 20 August, 2009 Share Posted 20 August, 2009 Got my copy and it was worth the two hour wait. Read half the book while in the queue, excellent read so far - recommended!! Interesting comment and perhaps not as 'heavy' as some would hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tac-tics Posted 20 August, 2009 Share Posted 20 August, 2009 how many dedications are there at the back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 20 August, 2009 Share Posted 20 August, 2009 Interesting comment and perhaps not as 'heavy' as some would hope. How on earth anyone thought MLT's biography could be heavy is beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daren W Posted 21 August, 2009 Share Posted 21 August, 2009 Fair question and my thoughts are based on MLT's comments in the Echo about how if he wrote a book he did not want to dish the dirt so to speak but concentrate on his football. He even mentioned he had no axe to grind with Lowe and no reason to comment either way or words to that effect. I know and watched MLTs career avidly and was hoping for the story behind the story the type that makes a really good autobiography that as far as I can understand is largely written by Hiley. So when is an autobiography not an autobiography? It promises to be a recount of pretty much what we already know and of little interest to knowledgeable fans or those who have a copy of In That Number. Of course I may be wrong but maybe it will be a bargain stocking filler come christmas. The Administration story however I will form an orderly queue now. Hmmm.... Footballer in lightweight book shock... Attention seeking freak in psuedo intellectual posturing shock... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurleyBurley Posted 21 August, 2009 Share Posted 21 August, 2009 Couldn't get to the stadium yesterday is it right he's at Smiths today? Need to get 3 copies do you think they will limit the number you can get signed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 21 August, 2009 Share Posted 21 August, 2009 I could not care if Matts book was written by a 3 year old.. he was an absolute legend for me, and someone who I admire, adored, and respected throughout my saints supporting life...he is the ONLY one to get all that from me and so many... could not give a flying if he was involved in pinnacle as he has made my admission fee to a game wirth every penny on so many occasions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daren W Posted 21 August, 2009 Share Posted 21 August, 2009 (edited) I could not care if Matts book was written by a 3 year old.. he was an absolute legend for me, and someone who I admire, adored, and respected throughout my saints supporting life...he is the ONLY one to get all that from me and so many... could not give a flying if he was involved in pinnacle as he has made my admission fee to a game wirth every penny on so many occasions Abso fecking lutely... I told one of my non Saints supporting mates what's been going on on this messageboard and he was gob smacked. His exact words were "Well Saints fans must be a bunch of muppets them, how many ex players care enough to help a club during its hard times??" And that's it really, someone who gave so much and earnt, relatively speaking, so little, cared enough to at least try and help us. So he failed but so what? At least he tried! Hindsight is a fabulous thing isn't it? We all now know of ML and his interest but at the time things looked so desperate and we needed Pinnacle. It's not beyond the realms of possibility that Matt wasn't told the truth, was strung along like the rest of us. Like many of us, he probably feels a bit used and taken advantage of. The last thing he should feel is guilty... Like DellDays, I relish my heroes, and Le Tiss is a genuine one. For me, just being involved with Pinnacle showed a footballer who genuinely cared fo the club and wanted to help. It didn't work out, but the constant sniping and *****ing from the likes of 19C is desperate and ludicrous and smacks of someone who needs to find fault and with a new billionaire owner, a decent manager and new signings, is now desperately looking around for someone to have a go at. For me Matt will always be one of my all time sporting heroes, right up there with Mick Channon, Kevin Keegan, Ian Botham and Malcolm Marshall. The Pinnacle fiasco is a mere ripple. The man is beyond reproach... Edited 21 August, 2009 by Daren W make it less "confrontational" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 21 August, 2009 Share Posted 21 August, 2009 The man is beyond reproach... that sums it up for me.. I remember his testimonial game...it actually brought a tear to my eye, especially when that bit they did on the screen and wasnt it with "I did it my way"..?...I dawned on me, right there and then, that it was over.. for god knows how many years, I went to games as a kids just wanted to get his autograph, shake his hand, hell, even for him just to say hello to me...he meant that much and I really cannot find ANYONE my age who is any different who is from southampton, saints fan or not.. sure he was not perfect and I remember being in the milton singing a song to take the mick out of him (all in good jest as matty gave a thumbs up).. we all had our frustrations when he had an off game...but over the years, he made football for me worthwhile..isnt that the whole point..? for all the lescotts and adebeyors, I really felt he was ONE OF US...I dont care that he supported spurs as a kid..i would put my mortgage on it that he is a proper, full on saints fan now... im coming home to southampton today, and it is so pleasing to see that there have been/are big queues for his book, im sure he does not need reminding but it shows, even now, after the last few years, what he means to t he avergae joe from millbrook to chilworth... I am not gobsmacked by 19C posts about him as it is to be expected...I am utterly appalled and to be honest, am COMPELETELY GUTTED that someone from or who supports southampton can think like that about an ex player who was an idol for an entire generation, and more.. :smt085 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daren W Posted 21 August, 2009 Share Posted 21 August, 2009 To end this debate for once and or all.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUt5CQPyWzs Now please (he stops, thinks about an enfraction, is tempted but decides against enflaming the situation) do one 19C.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 21 August, 2009 Share Posted 21 August, 2009 Hmmm.... Footballer in lightweight book shock... Attention seeking freak in psuedo intellectual posturing shock... Quite, Paul McGrath - now that was an autobigraphy worth reading as it jad an appeal not just away from his clubs but outside football. On the intellectual bit is that why you don't do your pseud's corner piece in the Pink anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 21 August, 2009 Share Posted 21 August, 2009 Abso fecking lutely... I told one of my non Saints supporting mates what's been going on on this messageboard and he was gob smacked. His exact words were "Well Saints fans must be a bunch of muppets them, how many ex players care enough to help a club during its hard times??" And that's it really, someone who gave so much and earnt, relatively speaking, so little, cared enough to at least try and help us. So he failed but so what? At least he tried! Hindsight is a fabulous thing isn't it? We all now know of ML and his interest but at the time things looked so desperate and we needed Pinnacle. It's not beyond the realms of possibility that Matt wasn't told the truth, was strung along like the rest of us. Like many of us, he probably feels a bit used and taken advantage of. The last thing he should feel is guilty... Like DellDays, I relish my heroes, and Le Tiss is a genuine one. For me, just being involved with Pinnacle showed a footballer who genuinely cared fo the club and wanted to help. It didn't work out, but the constant sniping and *****ing from the likes of 19C is desperate and ludicrous and smacks of someone who needs to find fault and with a new billionaire owner, a decent manager and new signings, is now desperately looking around for someone to have a go at. For me Matt will always be one of my all time sporting heroes, right up there with Mick Channon, Kevin Keegan, Ian Botham and Malcolm Marshall. The Pinnacle fiasco is a mere ripple. The man is beyond reproach... No one is ever beyond reproach and when people start believing that then generally that is when the cracks appear. The problem I have is that those who perhaps tried harder than MLT to save the club are not afforded the same humility or do we only forgive legends and ignore IMO their questionable judgement altogether? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daren W Posted 21 August, 2009 Share Posted 21 August, 2009 Quite, Paul McGrath - now that was an autobigraphy worth reading as it jad an appeal not just away from his clubs but outside football. On the intellectual bit is that why you don't do your pseud's corner piece in the Pink anymore? I'm too busy as a full time carer. I barely get time to go to games... That answer your question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 21 August, 2009 Share Posted 21 August, 2009 I'm too busy as a full time carer. I barely get time to go to games... That answer your question? Not really - what are you doing now - writing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stthrobber Posted 21 August, 2009 Share Posted 21 August, 2009 Just piked up a copy Do you live in Portsmouth then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daren W Posted 21 August, 2009 Share Posted 21 August, 2009 (edited) Not really - what are you doing now - writing. Yep, posts, not articles. Not that smart are you? Oh, and I have this week off on leave, hence posting more than normal... Edited 21 August, 2009 by Daren W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daren W Posted 21 August, 2009 Share Posted 21 August, 2009 No one is ever beyond reproach and when people start believing that then generally that is when the cracks appear. The problem I have is that those who perhaps tried harder than MLT to save the club are not afforded the same humility or do we only forgive legends and ignore IMO their questionable judgement altogether? Oh ffs Please tell us what facts you have on Le Tissier. Tell us the facts you have that he was in any way culpable or negligent? He was used as a figurehead on a failed bid. If you have facts then please print them, if you don't and you're making assumptions then please shut up. Your psuedo intellectual posturing is dull, uninteresting and vindicitive and inidicates an underlying need to be noticed. How very sad... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stthrobber Posted 21 August, 2009 Share Posted 21 August, 2009 No one is ever beyond reproach and when people start believing that then generally that is when the cracks appear. The problem I have is that those who perhaps tried harder than MLT to save the club are not afforded the same humility or do we only forgive legends and ignore IMO their questionable judgement altogether? I think you're banging your head against a brick wall here, but you will not change anyone's opinion about Matt. As I said before he's not a businessman, he's an ex footballer who loves Southampton FC and given that position was trying to do something positive to make sure that we still had a club to support. Anyone can be taken in by smooth talk and promises, but that doesn't mean they have questionable judgement, it just means that they can make mistakes like anyone, if things go pear shaped. I presume you have been wrong sometimes yourself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romsaint Posted 21 August, 2009 Share Posted 21 August, 2009 :DDo you live in Portsmouth then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 21 August, 2009 Share Posted 21 August, 2009 Oh ffs Please tell us what facts you have on Le Tissier. Tell us the facts you have that he was in any way culpable or negligent? He was used as a figurehead on a failed bid. If you have facts then please print them, if you don't and you're making assumptions then please shut up. Your psuedo intellectual posturing is dull, uninteresting and vindicitive and inidicates an underlying need to be noticed. How very sad... Judging by your posts my assumptions and opinions are as relevant as yours and until we are publicly told otherwise that situation will remain. Admittedly your position is easier to defend and requires less thoughtful questioning and a clearly over riding need to feel popular but fortunately there are a minority of fans (at least on here) that can support their club unstintingly and still challenge the thinking and actions of others when required. I am happy to stand behind my opinions until proven otherwise and even more happy to share my views on this forum if for no other reason to challenge thinking that IMO is at times based on nothing else but past reputations and the forcefulness of the poster concerned. It's not about getting noticed Daren, in fact that is the last thing I crave, believe me. The really sad thing is that we both have the time to post on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 21 August, 2009 Share Posted 21 August, 2009 I think you're banging your head against a brick wall here, but you will not change anyone's opinion about Matt. As I said before he's not a businessman, he's an ex footballer who loves Southampton FC and given that position was trying to do something positive to make sure that we still had a club to support. Anyone can be taken in by smooth talk and promises, but that doesn't mean they have questionable judgement, it just means that they can make mistakes like anyone, if things go pear shaped. I presume you have been wrong sometimes yourself?[/QUOTE] Of course I have but perhaps that's why I would question someone who you allege made a decision based on smooth talk and promises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 21 August, 2009 Share Posted 21 August, 2009 I don't understand why so many people fail to recognise that 19 is just a very poor wind-up merchant. It's so very sad to see him push out, time and again, views that are the complete polar opposite to pretty much everyone else's, just to try and get a rise out of people. I actually feel very sorry for him; it must be a terribly sad life to have to constantly resort to an internet forum to get the attention I can only presume passes him by in the real world. Of course, if everyone would spot this, and perhaps just completely ignore his fabricated nonsense, perhaps he might get tired of his internet persona and bugger off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 21 August, 2009 Share Posted 21 August, 2009 Anyone who truly has their opinion of mlt changed by the pinnacle episode is a fool. 19c didn't like him even before this all started. He certainly has some very strange views which lead me to question how much of a fan he is and in some cases his mental health Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stthrobber Posted 21 August, 2009 Share Posted 21 August, 2009 Of course I have but perhaps that's why I would question someone who you allege made a decision based on smooth talk and promises. Well it just shows that Matt, like the rest of us, is human, and apparently I'm told, to err is human. Anyone can be fed a pile of horse crap and believe it. That's how con men get away with it time and time again. Look how many fans were taken in by Wilde when he first appeared on the scene. They all wanted what was best for the club and truly believed his promises of what would happen after he gained control, but sadly his promises were empty. Surely no-one could believe Matt's intentions were anything other than honourable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daren W Posted 21 August, 2009 Share Posted 21 August, 2009 Judging by your posts my assumptions and opinions are as relevant as yours and until we are publicly told otherwise that situation will remain. Admittedly your position is easier to defend and requires less thoughtful questioning and a clearly over riding need to feel popular but fortunately there are a minority of fans (at least on here) that can support their club unstintingly and still challenge the thinking and actions of others when required. I am happy to stand behind my opinions until proven otherwise and even more happy to share my views on this forum if for no other reason to challenge thinking that IMO is at times based on nothing else but past reputations and the forcefulness of the poster concerned. It's not about getting noticed Daren, in fact that is the last thing I crave, believe me. The really sad thing is that we both have the time to post on here. So no facts then, just more conjecture and make believe. I'm on LEAVE, you're probably at home full time. That says it all to me. Your anti Le Tissier stance is made even more ridiculous when we consider that when Lowe was ruining this club you said nothing. Under your numerous guises you've backed Lowe to hilt, even when it was blatantly obvious his regime was wrong for this club. It makes your protestations against Le Tissier look absolutely ridiculous, almost school boy debating. In the great scheme of things you place more importance on Matt backing a failled, flawed bid than the man who presided over TWO relegations and numerous **** ups and humiliations. You're a joke, a pathetic, puffed up psuedo intellectual, who seems to thrive on being controversial and being the centre of attention. I really, really can't be bothered with you. For months I've had real issues with you and the more you post the more other people, far more reasonable than me, are seeing you for the vastly unpleasant attention seeker I know you to be. Please carry on, the more you post the more you prove me right... In the meantime, B L O C K E D.... and this messageboard is far better for it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daren W Posted 21 August, 2009 Share Posted 21 August, 2009 Well it just shows that Matt, like the rest of us, is human, and apparently I'm told, to err is human. Anyone can be fed a pile of horse crap and believe it. That's how con men get away with it time and time again. Look how many fans were taken in by Wilde when he first appeared on the scene. They all wanted what was best for the club and truly believed his promises of what would happen after he gained control, but sadly his promises were empty. Surely no-one could believe Matt's intentions were anything other than honourable? Rich he's just an attention seeking fantasist. I've blocked him now, I can't believe how long I've let this troll annoy me. His whole anti Le Tissier agenda is based on his own assumptions, there's not one hint of a fact just a vile smear campaign against one of our greatest ever players. His only justification is that he feels he's just expressing an opinion and the rest of us are sheep for believing a true legend over some unsubstantiated rumours. Utter rubbish... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 21 August, 2009 Share Posted 21 August, 2009 Couldn't get to the stadium yesterday is it right he's at Smiths today? Need to get 3 copies do you think they will limit the number you can get signed? LOL - Le Tiss exposed as J K Rowling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 21 August, 2009 Share Posted 21 August, 2009 What is this snobbery about whether it is a lightweight easy read rather than a heavyweight literary masterpiece? Lawrence Durrell is a heavyweight writer and yet much to his chagrin, his younger brother Gerald outsold him massively with his hugely entertaining lighter style of writing about his zoological experiences around the World. Who was the better author? And what irony that somebody who loves to watch and support his local team would apparently turn his nose up at reading the autobiography of arguably the best ever player at that club, ghost written by one of the most respected sports journalists in the South. The further irony is why somebody who places such weight on matters intellectual would be watching football rather than spending his free time following the international chess or bridge circuit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestSaint Posted 21 August, 2009 Share Posted 21 August, 2009 What is this snobbery about whether it is a lightweight easy read rather than a heavyweight literary masterpiece? Lawrence Durrell is a heavyweight writer and yet much to his chagrin, his younger brother Gerald outsold him massively with his hugely entertaining lighter style of writing about his zoological experiences around the World. Who was the better author? And what irony that somebody who loves to watch and support his local team would apparently turn his nose up at reading the autobiography of arguably the best ever player at that club, ghost written by one of the most respected sports journalists in the South. The further irony is why somebody who places such weight on matters intellectual would be watching football rather than spending his free time following the international chess or bridge circuit. or posts on an internet message board !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 21 August, 2009 Share Posted 21 August, 2009 Well to lighten the mood on what has become a bit of a farce of a thread, I got my copy from Waterstone's in Basingstoke this evening signed by the great man too. I have read a little and laughed at much of it. Especially the Alan Ball arriving at the Pearly Gates yarn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Samuel Posted 21 August, 2009 Share Posted 21 August, 2009 I'm really enjoying it, just got to the bit when Ball left and Merrington came in as manager. Its good to get Matt's opinions on his ex team mates and managers. I've laughed at some bits too, some very good pre season tour anecdotes. To answer the question earlier, there's 40 pages of fan's tributes at the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 21 August, 2009 Share Posted 21 August, 2009 My copy arrived in the post this morning ! As I read it, every time I smile I'll think of that **** 19C and smile just a little bit more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 22 August, 2009 Share Posted 22 August, 2009 I'm really enjoying it, just got to the bit when Ball left and Merrington came in as manager. Its good to get Matt's opinions on his ex team mates and managers. I've laughed at some bits too, some very good pre season tour anecdotes. To answer the question earlier, there's 40 pages of fan's tributes at the back. Personally, I would feel short changed by that and I rather he used these 40 pages to tackle some of the more gritty issues during his career at Saints. What really went on with Lowe and how he was perceived honestly by MLT and in the dressing room. Some of the accusations levelled at McMenemy and also the things MLT knew about after he finished playing and his views like the Wilde takeover etc. This is what I would call the heavyweight stuff, the more meaty issues as oppose to lightweight fluffy stuff that most of us know and the 'funny side' of pre season etc etc - all a bit boring I'm afraid and the same stories could be told by every professional player past and present from any club. The gritty heavier stuff is what sells books and makes them a good read, of the reviews so far I won't buy it but no doubt some well meaning individual will surprise me come Chritsmas and it will be read before the last present under the tree is unwrapped. Thanks for the reviews but it kind of sounds disappointing coupled with the comments from MLT and his brief with the publisher and his biographer as IMO its Hiley's work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 22 August, 2009 Share Posted 22 August, 2009 [/b] Personally, I would feel short changed by that and I rather he used these 40 pages to tackle some of the more gritty issues during his career at Saints. What really went on with Lowe and how he was perceived honestly by MLT and in the dressing room. Some of the accusations levelled at McMenemy and also the things MLT knew about after he finished playing and his views like the Wilde takeover etc. This is what I would call the heavyweight stuff, the more meaty issues as oppose to lightweight fluffy stuff that most of us know and the 'funny side' of pre season etc etc - all a bit boring I'm afraid and the same stories could be told by every professional player past and present from any club. The gritty heavier stuff is what sells books and makes them a good read, of the reviews so far I won't buy it but no doubt some well meaning individual will surprise me come Chritsmas and it will be read before the last present under the tree is unwrapped. Thanks for the reviews but it kind of sounds disappointing coupled with the comments from MLT and his brief with the publisher and his biographer as IMO its Hiley's work. Why don't you read the damn thing before pontificating about it in an authoritative manner, A lot of subjects are covered including the gritty stuff you demand. Something tells me you did not see Matty do his stuff with your own eyes as you are the only person on here with an axe to grind. You haven't bought the book, you don't want to buy the book, you don't want to read the book so why don't you just sod off onto a thread that you know even less about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 22 August, 2009 Share Posted 22 August, 2009 Why don't you read the damn thing before pontificating about it in an authoritative manner, A lot of subjects are covered including the gritty stuff you demand. Something tells me you did not see Matty do his stuff with your own eyes as you are the only person on here with an axe to grind. You haven't bought the book, you don't want to buy the book, you don't want to read the book so why don't you just sod off onto a thread that you know even less about. Gritty stuff? MLT alluded there wasn't anything like that and he was concentrating on the football side and what people have said so far is that its quick to read and IMO all a bit fluffy. I am now interested although you are the first to mention this so I will continue to treat it with caution. Tbh on most threads I am in good company and just because I don't agree with you doesn't make me less knowledgeable because I assume you're not so big headed to consider yourself right on everything. Remember I don't slag off MLT the playing legend. He was and probably will always be peerless at our club. What I do take issue with is when blind faith takes over and people treat him like some untouchable and as I have said before even playing legends have their faults and we should feel free to discuss them. MLT was lucky message boards weren't around in his pomp at least with not so much profile otherwise i suspect some of his 'lazier' performances would have been slated by those with little knowledge they were critcising he who could never be faulted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Samuel Posted 22 August, 2009 Share Posted 22 August, 2009 I don't really care if MLT has filled his book with "the funny side of pre season", thats the stuff I enjoy reading and so far from what I've read he's honest in what he thinks of Hoddle and Branfoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 22 August, 2009 Share Posted 22 August, 2009 Article in The Times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 22 August, 2009 Share Posted 22 August, 2009 Article in The Times. Perhaps 19C will read that link and then shut the **** up about MLT's part in the Pinncale thing. More importantly perhaps he will stop slagging Matt off for what was it again ? Oh loving this club and trying to save it, yeah....how could you Matt ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scally Posted 22 August, 2009 Share Posted 22 August, 2009 Why don't you read the damn thing before pontificating about it in an authoritative manner, A lot of subjects are covered including the gritty stuff you demand. Something tells me you did not see Matty do his stuff with your own eyes as you are the only person on here with an axe to grind. You haven't bought the book, you don't want to buy the book, you don't want to read the book so why don't you just sod off onto a thread that you know even less about. I think the line "you did not see Matty do his stuff" has hit the nail on the head 19c is a johnny come lately who has supported numerous clubs and has at the moment settled on Saints for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 22 August, 2009 Share Posted 22 August, 2009 Matt's views on Redknapp are revealing "he would have done the job if Lowe had let him get on with it" and also his views on the foolhardiness and timing of SCW's appointment should have quite a few on here eating humble pie. Haven bitten the bullet by appointing Redknapp Lowe then refused to give him free range, Redknapp lost interest and we went down. All very predicatable, forecasted by some on here and now confirmed by MLT. Shame Matt never chose to speak out at the time! The fans/shareholders and other board members would have surely listened and Lowe, just might have been removed earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 22 August, 2009 Share Posted 22 August, 2009 FF..I think you will find many of the Directors/Board members/fans/shareholders knew perfectly well the problem and many other problems regarding Lowe....This man had total control over a large section of the group mentioned. Whenever he was in the chair or standing in the wings planning his eventual return, No one seemed able or had the desire to challenge him.....WHY? At all times he had Askham and crew in his palm of his hand and they let him destroy this club whilst turning a blind eye.....AT SOMETIME DURING HIS TENURE, IT MUST HAVE DAWNED ON THEM.... what.... VERY LITTLE ABILITY RUPERT HAD... IN ALL AREAS. To play around with TV money did not require ability as Rupert proved time and time again....HE just kept spending it..like most posters on here could have done.....The control over this group, which then included Wilde( Who appeared to panic after his period of total incompetence whilst leading the club and the loss of what little money he had left....He didn't have a lot in the first place) must be knowledge/info re past deals/money or ......? is my view. The reverse takeover and the shady business with the retirement homes etc is somewhere at the core of the history of his control..There is NO evidence in my opinion, that he is successful at running top Corporate Companies etc.. In any other business you would attempt to pull the plug and rid your company of an incompetent leader.....Mind you we are talking City gents in the main AND we know the problems they have caused in recent times..FINGERS IN THE TILL AND TOTAL INCOMPETENCE IN MOST CASES AT THAT HIGHER LEVEL....AND how they support buffoons even when the company is fast disappearing into oblivion....Charlatans the lot of them. COYRs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 22 August, 2009 Share Posted 22 August, 2009 I can remember under one of his other guises (or was that his little boy posting from the same computer:rolleyes:) when the resident troll used to have a pop at all the Hagiology pulications as a way of having a dig at FF. Pity that he knows so little about the target for his trolling that he actually thought ITN meant Independent Television News:D;) Wes, is there a nest of trolls in the Sundance/Nineteen/Flashman/Third Bear et al's household?? Or has he just got an Octo-Polar Disorder??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 22 August, 2009 Share Posted 22 August, 2009 Sorry, my fellow posters regarding my ramblings above....I had a bad dream about Rupert and his next return..( still hope it is at Portsmifff) .. just had to get the frustration off my chest...It will not happen again..hopefully we will be told the whole story soooon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 22 August, 2009 Share Posted 22 August, 2009 Just had my copy delivered.... Right...Bugger everything else before I leave for the match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 22 August, 2009 Share Posted 22 August, 2009 Get this joker 19 canteen off here he isnt a fan at all. How dare he have a go at my hero and the guy who saved this club year after year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisho Posted 22 August, 2009 Share Posted 22 August, 2009 19C reminds me of a very poor Mike Parry (talksport presenter). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 22 August, 2009 Share Posted 22 August, 2009 How you lot can even start an argument on a thread about MLT's book is pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadpanmatt Posted 22 August, 2009 Share Posted 22 August, 2009 LOL - Le Tiss exposed as J K Rowling Wow. Just out of interest, what are you reading at the moment 19C? If it isn't Don Quixote or Ulysses I'd be very surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 22 August, 2009 Share Posted 22 August, 2009 Guys, there is an ignore function on this forum. If you want 19 out of your forum 'experience' it is more then possible. Once he realises no-one is seeing what he types he is bound go away. As for the book, got it today in the post. Can't wait to get stuck into it this evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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