Just back from the game...

[kpturner]

pardew looked very ****ed off at the crowed when we were calling for a sub. I wouldnt be impressed if i were him. Yes we were total guff last night but most other supporter groups of our size would get behind the team for 90 mins. Pathetic.

Well it made me chuckle ...and I think most supporters would be moaning like hell at that show. To think we are somehow different to all other supporter groups in this regard is nonsense IMHO

[Pat from Poole]

What's wrong with everybody? Why bother to turn up if you're just going to stand and look miserable. For a following of what must have been around 3,000, we put in a disgraceful showing.

 

On the field, we were poor. Defensively, we were disorganised. In attack, we were blunt.

 

On Pardew, how he didn't notice early on that the 4-5-1 formation was going to be ineffective, I will never know. His reluctance to change cost us any chance we may have had of getting a point.

 

 

 

There was a real gutbucket in the back row of our terrace in a grey Saints top, who spent the whole match berating our fans for not singing enough and not matching the vocal support of the Swindon fans. Easier for them when they have a roof and a team that actually moves so as to encourage them to give vocal support.

 

Anyway, would be interested to see if the guy is a poster on here. I was quite surprised he didn't get a slap; not everybody is going to sing for 90 minutes, we just don't have that type of fanbase, accept it and enjoy the game FFS.

 

My highlight of the night was the DISCO-type SUBSTITUTION demands in the second-half.

[COMEONYOUREDS]

I'm sorry, but booing your own team is wrong. Admittedly we were absolutely terrible last night, but has it not occurred to you that as a player, having half your support booing you while your trying to get a result for them might make them feel even less confident, and potentially think 'why should i even bother'.

 

I booed us off at Bristol Rovers - after the game - to let the players know how i felt about the performance - doing it 15 minutes into the game is madness.

 

We are a poor team, with our preparations for the new season ruined by the pinnacle debacle, have lost most of better players, and you people turn up at the game expecting us to steam roller an established team on their own patch - what were you expecting? I know swindon are ****, but we are ****ter at the moment - get used to it.

 

However I can't understand why Pardew can be ****ed off at fans calling for a sub - it was obvious to everyone it was needed, whether they were booing or not. Our tactics were baffling last night and I hope this is not a sign of things to come, it was like burley/poortvielt/wotte all rolled into one.

[kpturner]

My highlight of the night was the DISCO-type SUBSTITUTION demands in the second-half.

That what I was chuckling about in an earlier post. LMFAO.

[ericb]

To be fair i thought our support was an embarrassment last night too, 3000 people and most of them were stood silent. Roof or no roof with that number you can make a noise that makes a difference, and i bet if it'd be Leeds, Millwall or any other number of clubs they wouldn't have just stood/sat in silence.

 

I know the players were by and large ****, it could've been six, but that shouldn't stop us. Anyone that's been going long enough will have seen the fans change a game with their support (newcastle at home, 1-0 with ten minutes to go springs to mind) but for some reason since we've moved to St Mary's we've given up on that.

 

Too many people going just to be entertained, instead of getting behind the side. No wonder the players can perform like that, it's not like they've got anything to be worried about from our meek lot is it?

[Deanovski]

i couldnt go to the game but could hear saints fans well considering it was a load of ****e...give the fans a break.

[ericb]

if you'd been at the game you'd have realised it wasn't oh when the saints, it was the swindon fans. Ours were largely **** last night, and it pains me to say that.

[benjii]

The atmosphere was pretty poor. Not having a roof doesn't help but then witnessing possibly the worst Saints performance I have ever seen was likely to have been a bigger factor.

 

Some absolutely awful performances and a manager doing an impression of Jan Poortvliet. Brilliant.

 

KD was immense.

Harding at least looked like a footballer.

Lambert was isolated and Lallana tried to carry the attack to them.

 

Everyone else, including Pardew, was absolutely terrible.

[RedAndWhite91]

To be fair i thought our support was an embarrassment last night too, 3000 people and most of them were stood silent. Roof or no roof with that number you can make a noise that makes a difference, and i bet if it'd be Leeds, Millwall or any other number of clubs they wouldn't have just stood/sat in silence.

 

I know the players were by and large ****, it could've been six, but that shouldn't stop us. Anyone that's been going long enough will have seen the fans change a game with their support (newcastle at home, 1-0 with ten minutes to go springs to mind) but for some reason since we've moved to St Mary's we've given up on that.

 

Too many people going just to be entertained, instead of getting behind the side. No wonder the players can perform like that, it's not like they've got anything to be worried about from our meek lot is it?

 

100% spot on.

[surrey1saint]

+1 COYR

 

Originally Posted by ericb View Post

To be fair i thought our support was an embarrassment last night too, 3000 people and most of them were stood silent. Roof or no roof with that number you can make a noise that makes a difference, and i bet if it'd be Leeds, Millwall or any other number of clubs they wouldn't have just stood/sat in silence.

 

I know the players were by and large ****, it could've been six, but that shouldn't stop us. Anyone that's been going long enough will have seen the fans change a game with their support (newcastle at home, 1-0 with ten minutes to go springs to mind) but for some reason since we've moved to St Mary's we've given up on that.

 

Too many people going just to be entertained, instead of getting behind the side. No wonder the players can perform like that, it's not like they've got anything to be worried about from our meek lot is it?

 

I agree

[shurlock]

Loud enough where I was in the Arkells but it had a roof. Most of the long distance, week-in week-out away fans were in the Arkells at any rate- not surprsing given that's where Swindon allocated their first batch of tickets.

 

My mate was in the Stratton - said it was filled mostly by n*bs. Supposedly, a sizeable bunch didnt even come for the football it seems. Spent the first half queing at the only food and drink stand in operation oblivious to the fact there was a match going on.

[surrey1saint]

100% spot on.

 

Loud enough where I was in the Arkells but it had a roof. Most of the long distance, week-in week-out away fans were in the Arkells at any rate- not surprsing given that's where Swindon allocated their first batch of tickets.

 

My mate was in the Stratton - said it was filled mostly by n*bs. Supposedly, a sizeable bunch didnt even come for the football it seems. Spent the first half queing at the only food and drink stand in operation oblivious to the fact there was a match going on.

 

Says it all doesn't it FFS!

[kpturner]

My mate was in the Stratton - said it was filled mostly by n*bs. Supposedly, a sizeable bunch didnt even come for the football it seems. Spent the first half queing at the only food and drink stand in operation oblivious to the fact there was a match going on.

What a joke statement. So your mate walked through the entire Stratton End vetting each person and deciding whether or not they were knobs? Tell me, what qualifies as a "knob" these days in football fan parlance? I was sitting (standing actually) in that stand and the people around me seemed pretty decent citizens doing their best to encourage the team - with the obvious moan and groan here and there when things went tits up. They didn't seem like knobs to me, so maybe you need to take a closer look at your mate to see what a knob really looks like.

[SaintRichmond]

I'm sorry, but booing your own team is wrong. Admittedly we were absolutely terrible last night, but has it not occurred to you that as a player, having half your support booing you while your trying to get a result for them might make them feel even less confident, and potentially think 'why should i even bother'.

 

I booed us off at Bristol Rovers - after the game - to let the players know how i felt about the performance - doing it 15 minutes into the game is madness.

 

We are a poor team, with our preparations for the new season ruined by the pinnacle debacle, have lost most of better players, and you people turn up at the game expecting us to steam roller an established team on their own patch - what were you expecting? I know swindon are ****, but we are ****ter at the moment - get used to it.

 

However I can't understand why Pardew can be ****ed off at fans calling for a sub - it was obvious to everyone it was needed, whether they were booing or not. Our tactics were baffling last night and I hope this is not a sign of things to come, it was like burley/poortvielt/wotte all rolled into one.[/QUOTE]

 

 

 

Superb strategy .... bringing on Rasiak after the game was over .........

[Neil]

The Stratton Bank (and side stand fans) were remarkably patient, even when they were running out of patience in the 2nd half they kept an element of humour to the chants and substitution gestures!

 

AP should realise that although Saints fans are a patient bunch generally, we do have some (limited) expectations and we won't tolerate this rubbish for much longer, albeit we accept that it's hard to change a losing mindset overnight, we expect some improvement.

[Wilko]

There was a real gutbucket in the back row of our terrace in a grey Saints top, who spent the whole match berating our fans for not singing enough and not matching the vocal support of the Swindon fans. Easier for them when they have a roof and a team that actually moves so as to encourage them to give vocal support.

 

Anyway, would be interested to see if the guy is a poster on here. I was quite surprised he didn't get a slap; not everybody is going to sing for 90 minutes, we just don't have that type of fanbase, accept it and enjoy the game FFS.

 

My highlight of the night was the DISCO-type SUBSTITUTION demands in the second-half.

 

I'd never dream of berating people at the game and I can assure you it wasn't me.

 

I'm not one of these 90-minute singers either, but last night nobody behind the goal seemed to sing at all. It was a real shame because we had such a good following numerically.

 

With regard to all the nonsense about how crap we are, I won't argue, mainly because I've only seen one of our games so far. However, we need to get it into perspective. We are in League One because that's our standard. We can't expect to rock up to Swindon, Bristol Rovers, Huddersfield or anywhere else and **** them off the park. It just isn't going to happen and we have to accept it and move on.

 

Regards,

 

Wilko

[JB]

What a joke statement. So your mate walked through the entire Stratton End vetting each person and deciding whether or not they were knobs? Tell me, what qualifies as a "knob" these days in football fan parlance? I was sitting (standing actually) in that stand and the people around me seemed pretty decent citizens doing their best to encourage the team - with the obvious moan and groan here and there when things went tits up. They didn't seem like knobs to me, so maybe you need to take a closer look at your mate to see what a knob really looks like.

 

We're the Superfans, we're the Superfans, we're the Superfans over here.

 

We're the Nobs, we're the Nobs, we're the Nobs over here.

 

I think the Superfans have a point. If it was just them (and no Nobs) it would have a better (and more organised) off-pitch performance. Perhaps the players would have responded better without the pressure of us Nobs watching them.

 

Stockport will be the test. Superfans only.

[RedAndWhite91]

Loud enough where I was in the Arkells but it had a roof. Most of the long distance, week-in week-out away fans were in the Arkells at any rate- not surprsing given that's where Swindon allocated their first batch of tickets.

 

My mate was in the Stratton - said it was filled mostly by n*bs. Supposedly, a sizeable bunch didnt even come for the football it seems. Spent the first half queing at the only food and drink stand in operation oblivious to the fact there was a match going on.

 

What a load of absolute ********. Those so-called nobs were fans of Southampton who made the journey on a Tuesday night to watch their team. What is the point of judging fans of your own club on somewhere they sit as well. 'Filled mostly by n*bs' is the most stupid thing I have heard in a while.

 

My view is that we are all Saints fans, some of us sing, some of us don't, get over it. What is the point of coming on here and having a go at people who support the same club, we are all fans of Southampton.

[RedAndWhite91]

I'd never dream of berating people at the game and I can assure you it wasn't me.

 

I'm not one of these 90-minute singers either, but last night nobody behind the goal seemed to sing at all. It was a real shame because we had such a good following numerically.

 

With regard to all the nonsense about how crap we are, I won't argue, mainly because I've only seen one of our games so far. However, we need to get it into perspective. We are in League One because that's our standard. We can't expect to rock up to Swindon, Bristol Rovers, Huddersfield or anywhere else and **** them off the park. It just isn't going to happen and we have to accept it and move on.

 

Regards,

 

Wilko

 

Think you'll find there were singers behind the goal. However, people behind the goal mostly tried to join in with the Arkell's lot, but couldn't keep time with them, it was difficult keeping a song going, and everyone knows how **** it is when two separate songs are being sung at the same time.

[shurlock]

What a load of absolute ********. Those so-called nobs were fans of Southampton who made the journey on a Tuesday night to watch their team. What is the point of judging fans of your own club on somewhere they sit as well. 'Filled mostly by n*bs' is the most stupid thing I have heard in a while.

 

My view is that we are all Saints fans, some of us sing, some of us don't, get over it. What is the point of coming on here and having a go at people who support the same club, we are all fans of Southampton.

 

I agree - the more support, the better. I'm against this sanctimonious 'better than thou' boll**ks, especially since individual circumstances vary. Given the fact that the team is hardly returning the love at the moment, all support is valuable.

 

I'm just reporting what my mate said -FWIW he was talking about how different fans express their support. Specifically, he meant that there were alot of fans in the Stratton who were probably louder and younger than your average week-in, week-out tea-and-flask away supporter but quicker to turn when things started to go badly, not least by the lack of noise in the stand (but that's because of the lack of a roof). On some days when the team is playing well, that way of expressing support is what makes the difference - and is f**King Herculean; on other days, less so. But ultimately we all follow and care about Southampton FFS.

Edited 19 August, 2009 by shurlock

[Griffo]

Vocally, I was ashamed of our support yesterday. Most of the time I was one of the only ones singing in the Stratton Bank.

[NN2 Saint]

I bet some muppets even clapped their 'heroes' off the pitch last night. I only listened to the game but it sounded disgraceful on the pitch nothing at all to get excited about. I'm all for getting behind the team when they deserve it but it goes both ways. If the players continue to put in performances like last night and Saturday which I witnessed and apparently last nights was even worse they deserve the boo's etc. I'm hoping things pick up before Stockport but I can't see it

[RedAndWhite91]

Vocally, I was ashamed of our support yesterday. Most of the time I was one of the only ones singing in the Stratton Bank.

 

I hate it when you start singing and then no-one around you joins in. I was down the front and trying to join in with those behind me singing in the Stratton Bank, but when no-one else does you feel isolated and on your own - and it isn't a good feeling!

[Griffo]

I hate it when you start singing and then no-one around you joins in. I was down the front and trying to join in with those behind me singing in the Stratton Bank, but when no-one else does you feel isolated and on your own - and it isn't a good feeling!

 

Are you the idiot that didn't give the ball back when Swindon had a corner?

[RedAndWhite91]

Are you the idiot that didn't give the ball back when Swindon had a corner?

 

Nope that wasn't me. Pretty sure that was a bit further up the 'bank'. (Can't really call it a stand can you)

[saint_stevo]

I bet some muppets even clapped their 'heroes' off the pitch last night. I only listened to the game but it sounded disgraceful on the pitch nothing at all to get excited about. I'm all for getting behind the team when they deserve it but it goes both ways. If the players continue to put in performances like last night and Saturday which I witnessed and apparently last nights was even worse they deserve the boo's etc. I'm hoping things pick up before Stockport but I can't see it

 

Totally agree

[RedAndWhite91]

I think Kelvin Davies deserved a clap, and I did clap him when he came over. If it wasn't for him and a few good saves it would've been about 4-0. He kept us in it, and continues to week in, week out. It's about time those 10 players in front of him sorted themselves out though.

[PokingFun]

It certainly is a concern if AP has started to become tactically inept. One thing to his credit, he is at least trying to get the right players in to strengthen the squad. He has already bought a proper left back, a proper right back, a proven League 1 goal scorer, an attacking midfielder, albeit on loan and hopefully an influencial central midfielder who can break up oppostion attacks and support Saints attacks. Also had Jaidi signed then part of the centre back problem would also have been addressed by now.

 

I think we have to take a pause and remember that the new owners and Pardew have virtually had no time to prepare for this season. Liebherr bought a club with virtually no internal structure (football management staff, scouting network and a depleted and vastly demoralised squad).

 

Pardew, in a short amount of time, not only has to rebuild a squad but get the new players to gel and turn a team that is used to losing into a team that will start believing in themselves and play more positively. I think some of the players need a right royal kick up the backside and to be brought in for extra training sessions and to work on their fitness.

 

I'm not saying Pardew is not at fault for the disappointing start to the season, but there have been a lot more barriers to overcome than most of the other League 1 clubs who have not had the major disruption over the summer than Saints have had.

 

Personally, I am prepared to give Pardew until the end of September to turn things around and continue to strengthen the squad. If not, then questions about Pardews future should be asked.

 

Interesting how some of our fans are happy to give the new manager no more than 2 months to turn a poor team into L1 challengers. Asking questions about Pardew's future no more than 2 months into his reign is extremely knee jerk.

 

Give the guy a chance to build for goodness sake. Maybe the lack of changes last night were as a result of him feeling he had nothing better on the bench! Rasiak and Saga want out (hardly inspiring), Thomson and Gobern are very young and would make little impression, Bialkowski obv not needed, Gillett could have replaced Wotton but what exactly would that have achieved and then that left Perry ...... doesn't offer a lot that bench for one reason or another does it?

[Bailey]

Pardew's team selections and tactics are starting to concern me. I appreciate that things won't improve overnight, which is why I feel slightly stupid for even questioning AP so soon into his reign, but he has made some baffling decisions.

 

I can't understand why he insists on playing Wotton ahead of Gillett. Hopefully the arrival of Hammond will result in PW dropping to the bench, but even so, I feel sorry for Gillett. He must be scratching his head wondering what he's got to do to get into the team. I'd be interested to hear Pardew's opinion on him and why he doesn't select him.

 

Same applies for Holmes too. Why can't he get in the side? He's our only natural left-midfielder and he'd do a far better job than Lallana. I rate Lallana, don't get me wrong, but he's not a wide player at all. Again, I would like to know why he hasn't even got near the first-team.

 

Choosing Lancashire ahead of Perry was strange too, although maybe Pards decided to rest Perry as there are a lot of games to come and CP isn't getting any younger. Fingers crossed he'll be back in the side for the visit of Brentford though.

[kpturner]

Vocally, I was ashamed of our support yesterday. Most of the time I was one of the only ones singing in the Stratton Bank.

First of all, football would not be football without the noise/signing/chanting generated by the fans. I spent the latter part of the '70's and 80's right in the middle of it all swaying about in the masses shouting myself hoarse at every game, chanting every song going, getting as close to the away supporters as possible and glaring at them menacingly through the barriers, waving the w@nkers sign at them and asking them to meet me outside - all that bravado that goes with watching a football match.

 

These days I just prefer to sit (stand) and watch the game. I don't want to sing my head off anymore. I don't want to shout abuse at the other fans and pretend I am going to take them all on outside. I don't want to chant. I like to celebrate a goal, jump out of my seat when things are getting exciting, moan and groan when things go wrong, but singing and chanting just makes me feel like a ****. I like to hear it all and I like the atmosphere, but I don't particularly want to take part anymore.

 

Does that mean I can't go and watch my team without being accused of being a knob? Should I hang my head in shame for not joining in the latest rousing rendition of "Wotton is a w@nker" or "My old man...."? Do I deserve all I get from the fat bloke at the back who wants to castigate me for not doing so? Possibly - if everyone was like me the football matches would be like morgues, but I still want to go - please.

[Griffo]

First of all, football would not be football without the noise/signing/chanting generated by the fans. I spent the latter part of the '70's and 80's right in the middle of it all swaying about in the masses shouting myself hoarse at every game, chanting every song going, getting as close to the away supporters as possible and glaring at them menacingly through the barriers, waving the w@nkers sign at them and asking them to meet me outside - all that bravado that goes with watching a football match.

 

These days I just prefer to sit (stand) and watch the game. I don't want to sing my head off anymore. I don't want to shout abuse at the other fans and pretend I am going to take them all on outside. I don't want to chant. I like to celebrate a goal, jump out of my seat when things are getting exciting, moan and groan when things go wrong, but singing and chanting just makes me feel like a ****. I like to hear it all and I like the atmosphere, but I don't particularly want to take part anymore.

 

Does that mean I can't go and watch my team without being accused of being a knob? Should I hang my head in shame for not joining in the latest rousing rendition of "Wotton is a w@nker" or "My old man...."? Do I deserve all I get from the fat bloke at the back who wants to castigate me for not doing so? Possibly - if everyone was like me the football matches would be like morgues, but I still want to go - please.

 

Well I go with my Dad, who is exactly like you, so no, I don't have a problem with fans that take that approach. My point is, normally our away support is 10x better than it was yesterday.

[ericofarabia]

We're the Superfans, we're the Superfans, we're the Superfans over here.

 

We're the Nobs, we're the Nobs, we're the Nobs over here.

 

I think the Superfans have a point. If it was just them (and no Nobs) it would have a better (and more organised) off-pitch performance. Perhaps the players would have responded better without the pressure of us Nobs watching them.

 

Stockport will be the test. Superfans only.

 

Recognition at last ....... Yay

 

It sounds a bit like the Huddersfield game, once again crap game but also crap support. Away games used to be fun win, draw or more normally lose. but Saturday and it seems last night were a bit flat to say the least.

 

Come on SuperFans make yourselves heard at Stockport (and SMS on Saturday) and every game for the rest of the season.

[kpturner]

Well I go with my Dad, who is exactly like you, so no, I don't have a problem with fans that take that approach. My point is, normally our away support is 10x better than it was yesterday.

Maybe I am your dad

[J Bizzle]

Felt a bit sorry for Jacob Mellis, he really dont know what he let himself in for. A very poor game, other than Lamberts well hit free kick I dont think there were any other highlights. Why oh why will he not put Gillett, please just give the lad one game to prove he is what we need. I was really disappointed with AP last night he didnt seem to want to change the team at all until about thee 80 minutes, too little too late.

 

He's ****

[Badvoc]

Well I go with my Dad, who is exactly like you, so no, I don't have a problem with fans that take that approach. My point is, normally our away support is 10x better than it was yesterday.

 

It seems to be a common feature that big Saints followings away from home = poor support and small away followings = good support.

 

There should be no excuse about not having a roof either. I remember Swindon at the Dell for the Littlewoods Cup replay in January, 1990. There was no roof on the Archers, yet their support was bloody loud. Infact, most away followings at the Dell made a right old racket.

 

At the end of the day though, you pays your money and it's up to you. If you want to sit and watch then fair play. Personally, I prefer the less popular away games though as support tends to be a bit more vociferous; roof or no roof.

[AJ09]

One of the worst Southampton performances ive ever seen. So dissapointing. Surely we have more to offer than what was on show last night!?

 

I honestly believe Lallana has alot of potential. The first half of last season he showed alot of class. Often the only player who looked like creating anything. Let's not forget he was strongly linked with Spurs lsat year. Clearly he is'nt playing to the best of his ability, but i think he's so wasted out wide. He's not particulaly quick, and not strong. However it's hard to see where he's going to fit into the team, especially with the new lad Hammond coming in. Maybe in a Le Tiss like 'Free Role' behind Lambert? Any thoughts?? I think if we can get the best out of him he could really make a difference this year.

 

Dissapointed with Pardew. I was frustrated that no changes had been made at HT, but with 10 minutes remaining and the same 11 out there? I don't get it...

 

Lancashire, James and Wotton...just awful. Not good enough to play for this club. Tempting to put Patterson in that group aswel as I havn't seen anything to suggest otherwise.

 

Looking foward to seeing Hammond on the weekend aswel as another signing hopefully. Early days but Big improvment needed

[lordswoodsaints]

Interesting how some of our fans are happy to give the new manager no more than 2 months to turn a poor team into L1 challengers. Asking questions about Pardew's future no more than 2 months into his reign is extremely knee jerk.

 

Give the guy a chance to build for goodness sake. Maybe the lack of changes last night were as a result of him feeling he had nothing better on the bench! Rasiak and Saga want out (hardly inspiring), Thomson and Gobern are very young and would make little impression, Bialkowski obv not needed, Gillett could have replaced Wotton but what exactly would that have achieved and then that left Perry ...... doesn't offer a lot that bench for one reason or another does it?

 

Tbf most of the teams in our league would love to have the players we had on our bench,every single player on the pitch could have easily of been substituted after 20 minutes it was that bad.

I don't think anybody is expecting miracles from pardew so early in his reign but what I do expect is a bit of tactical awareness,even a formation tweak would have been nice,every saints fan in the ground could see it wasn't working and did pardew do?..........nothing.

This is unacceptable when we had a bench full of capable players,regardless if they want to leave or not.

The facts are we were beaten by ourselves and pardew did nothing,I don't know why he did nothing but I suspect that he either a) wanted to prove a point to somebody or b) he didn't have a fookin clue.....unless you can think of another credible reason then both a and b are worrying.

A lot of people seem to be forgetting that we have been in a relegation battle from day one,wether you like it or not,this doesn't give pardew a lot of time to get things right,standing on the line doing nothing to improve our chances will do exactly that.... Not improve our chances.

On the other hand standing on the line and making the most of a bad situation,getting the best out of the players you have at your disposal and directing them from the line has to be the better option.

Edited 20 August, 2009 by lordswoodsaints

[ladysaint]

He's ****

 

I think you have made it pretty clear what you think of Gillett now. However, you cant say that he wouldnt have made a difference if he came on for the second half at Swindon, he surely couldnt have done any worse.

[gordonToo]

Tbf most of the teams in our league would love to have the players we had on our bench,every single player on the pitch could have easily of been substituted after 20 minutes it was that bad.

I don't think anybody is expecting miracles from pardew so early in his reign but what I do expect is a bit of tactical awareness,even a formation tweak would have been nice,every saints fan in the ground could see it wasn't working and did pardew do?..........nothing.

This is unacceptable when we had a bench full of capable players,regardless if they want to leave or not.

The facts are we were beaten by ourselves and pardew did nothing,I don't know why he did nothing but I suspect that he either a) wanted to prove a point to somebody or b) he didn't have a fookin clue.....unless you can think of another credible reason then both a and b are worrying.

A lot of people seem to be forgetting that we have been in a relegation battle from day one,wether you like it or not,this doesn't give pardew a lot of time to get things right,standing on the line doing nothing to improve our chances will do exactly that.... Not improve our chances.

On the other hand standing on the line and making the most of a bad situation,getting the best out of the players you have at your disposal and directing them from the line has to be the better option.

 

Best to give Pardew the benefit of the doubt at this stage as I can see some merit in giving that team 90 minutes to show what they are capable of in a match situation. If he picks the same 11 for Saturday though ....

[MorningtonCrescent]

There was a real gutbucket in the back row of our terrace in a grey Saints top, who spent the whole match berating our fans for not singing enough and not matching the vocal support of the Swindon fans. Easier for them when they have a roof and a team that actually moves so as to encourage them to give vocal support.

 

Anyway, would be interested to see if the guy is a poster on here. I was quite surprised he didn't get a slap; not everybody is going to sing for 90 minutes, we just don't have that type of fanbase, accept it and enjoy the game FFS.

 

My highlight of the night was the DISCO-type SUBSTITUTION demands in the second-half.

 

You must have been close to us then. He really was out of place with his rantings at fellow fans. We started loads of singing, and he didn't always join in either. As soon as someone starts to berate other fans for not singing, they are just going to stop altogether.

 

We didn't return to those seats for the second half, due to his ramblings. Not sure I could've got anyone to sing along anyway, but that terrace did need people prepared to start up some songs in an attempt to lift the team. People like him should try to understand different people have different reasons for going along to matches and not everyone wants to sing for 90 minutes.

[RedAndWhite91]

You must have been close to us then. He really was out of place with his rantings at fellow fans. We started loads of singing, and he didn't always join in either. As soon as someone starts to berate other fans for not singing, they are just going to stop altogether.

 

We didn't return to those seats for the second half, due to his ramblings. Not sure I could've got anyone to sing along anyway, but that terrace did need people prepared to start up some songs in an attempt to lift the team. People like him should try to understand different people have different reasons for going along to matches and not everyone wants to sing for 90 minutes.

 

I want to sing for 90 minutes, I want to shout and jump around and then need a drink cos my throat is sore. But I agree with you when you say that everyone is different and that is just not some people's cup of tea. People should accept that and just be grateful people are there supporting the club in whatever way they see fit.

[SFKA South Woodford]

I want to sing for 90 minutes, I want to shout and jump around and then need a drink cos my throat is sore. But I agree with you when you say that everyone is different and that is just not some people's cup of tea. People should accept that and just be grateful people are there supporting the club in whatever way they see fit.

 

Agree with that, and was fully prepared to give it my all, until I saw that the players reaction to going behind in the game was to serve up the exact same sh*te that they had last season and either play statues or give their impressions of headless chickens.

 

That totally drained me 'and I would think many others' of any passion and will to chant, and replaced it with frustration and anger.

 

The team were pathetic and no amount of positive chanting was going to improve their performance.

 

To be fair though, for the last 5 to 10 minutes when they actually started to show a little bit of fight, our support 'including me' did get behind them and roar them on, the fight starts with them, and if they show some, the fans will roar them on.

 

So for those saying the support was a disgrace, I give you the team and their performance on the evening, as the real disgrace to Southampton football club that night.

[Bourne Valley Saint]

Totally agree with SFKA SOUTH WOODFORD above - I gave it my all during the early stages of the game but it soon became apparent that the team were incapable of stringing two passess together let alone applying any pressure on the Swindon goal. I think our only chance of the first half fell to Lambert after a defensive error by Swindon. We were absolute SHlte and, yes, I booed when we started passing it back to Davis instead of forwards because our players didn't have the ability or intelligence to make space or manage a decent pass. I've been watching Saints for years and that was one of the worst performances I have ever seen. Why Pardew didn't change it at half time I don't know - he must have had his reasons and I'll give him a chance to show what he can do, but some of the players were toatlly inept and should be embarassed to have performed like that in front of 3000 fans, who from where I was sitting in the stand, gave pretty good support throughout the match despite watching such utter crap!

 

I think 50 points were required last season to avoid relegation from this league, so we need 59 more. 1 from 3 games is not a good start. We need an average of 1.37 per game. Who fancies we can manage that?

[HILL HEAD SAINT]

pardew looked very ****ed off at the crowed when we were calling for a sub. I wouldnt be impressed if i were him. Yes we were total guff last night but most other supporter groups of our size would get behind the team for 90 mins. Pathetic.

we have had to put up with to many of these crap performances and for those who go week in week out you cant blame them at least expecting some improvement but on this sorry display its same old same old!who ever gave wooton a three year contract sould be reported to the sport police(get rid)lets not forget we had a million pound striker,a million pound centre back,and at least to suposed ones to watch and we were still rubbish,yes pardew needs time and after this showing new blood but i honestly thought the dutch jokers were back,tactically played all wrong and only made subs in last 10mins even when we were one down from early on.

[captainchris]

How anyone can have a go at the fans is beyond me.

The team put in a really feeble effort, and AP did nothing at all to change a dreadful situation. He may have had very good reasons for doing so(like having a good look at the system he was using), but when your team is being played off the park by a mid table L1 team, calling for one of your TWO Polish internationals to get out on the park is hardly a crime, is it??

 

Also, the fans stayed with the team pretty well considering the ineptitude of the performance.

 

Ahh so AP did play a system - sorry I'm a bit thick - what was it?

[SoccerMom]

I find all of this really interesting as when I was listening to Pardew on the radio after Saturday's game, he kept referring to the squad being strengthened "for next Saturday." It was like he was forgetting, or ignoring, the Tuesday night game. I guessed at the time that maybe he thought he was just talking to home-attending fans, or something - couldn't really work it out. Now it seems he really didn't have a plan for Tuesday, almost as if he'd completely written it off. Curious.