Message to club - Any DANGER of signing a CB or two

[Thedelldays]

ffs...only been about 4 years or so...

[St Lej]

Exactly, tonight was one step too far. Looks like AP will need to replace pretty much everyone (bar KD) who was here before he arrived. This sounded like an absolute disgrace by all accounts

[Ivan Katalinic's 'tache]

Very worried about this. Spoke to a mate of mine who supports Charlton and he said, when AP left them, they had 7 forwards and only 2 centre-backs and were leaking goals like a sieve. He kept saying they needed defenders but they never signed any. Don't want to criticise the fella given it's only been 3 games but this is sounding remarkably familiar...

[Paul Chuckle]

Absolutley disgraceful from what i heard, think we need at least 6 new players. Bloody awful

[Thedelldays]

this is now a joke..

 

I was so optimistic...even shrugged the huddersfield defeat off..

 

but swindon town....jesus christ

[Ivan Katalinic's 'tache]

Exactly, tonight was one step too far. Looks like AP will need to replace pretty much everyone (bar KD) who was here before he arrived. This sounded like an absolute disgrace by all accounts

 

Good job they put on a performance for us, like AP said, otherwise we'd be really annoyed.

[RobM]

You defend from the front... I agree entirely we need two new CB's and I wouldn't for a second argue against it, but I have a feeling our defensive performance will improve with a more solid midfield.

[Deanovski]

ew couldve got JPS in and hes better than any of our CBS and even COVER if we get in more CBS ffs.

[Saint_Rick]

A decent centre back and a winger please

[S-Clarke]

this is now a joke..

 

I was so optimistic...even shrugged the huddersfield defeat off..

 

but swindon town....jesus christ

 

 

+1

 

serious problems, not sure what to say. Do we really need a new team completely? starting to look like it.

[Bailey]

Hate to say it, but Pards has got a bit to answer for tonight. His team selection was baffling to say the least. Why is Gillett not in the side? Why is Holmes nowhere to be seen? Why play Wotton when he clearly isn't up to it? Why wait til stoppage-time before bringing Rasiak on? For me, our best team would be this:

 

Davis

 

Murty - Perry - Thomas - Harding

 

Lallana - Schneiderlin - Hammond - Holmes

 

Lambert - Saganowski

 

Subs: Bialkowski, Lancashire, James, Gillett, Gobern, Rasiak, Paterson

[skintsaint]

You defend from the front... I agree entirely we need two new CB's and I wouldn't for a second argue against it, but I have a feeling our defensive performance will improve with a more solid midfield.

 

Set pieces is where we lack...AGAIN

[dubai_phil]

1) Yes we need CB's and HAVE done since Killer got injured

2) BUT, even JT would struggle in this team at the moment as there simply is nothing in front of them

 

It's very difficult stopping a Tsunami even with a big breakwater

[Thedelldays]

lallana need dropping

[NI76]

this is now a joke..

 

I was so optimistic...even shrugged the huddersfield defeat off..

 

but swindon town....jesus christ

 

Maybe now you'll stop being so sarcastic then when other posters try and tell you how crap we are and how many signings we need?

[SO16_Saint]

absolute fecking disgrace.

 

the 'all time lows' keep getting lower.

[Saint_Mabes]

I'll tell you what, i've been 110% supportive and excited by Pardew being manager, but he has a hell of a lot to answer for IMO!!!!!

 

Absolutely crazy selection. I only listened from half time but was he playing Paterson on right and Mellis up front (behind lambert)??? Had he decided to leave Gillett on the bench whilst still playing Wotton, and finally...DID HE LEAVE IT UNTIL ABOUT 10 MINS 'TIL END BEFORE MAKING ANY CHANGE!!!!?? Was absolutely crying out for subs to be used between 60 - 70 mins!

 

I can't believe it.

[captainchris]

Hate to say it, but Pards has got a bit to answer for tonight. His team selection was baffling to say the least. Why is Gillett not in the side? Why is Holmes nowhere to be seen? Why play Wotton when he clearly isn't up to it? Why wait til stoppage-time before bringing Rasiak on? For me, our best team would be this:

 

Davis

 

Murty - Perry - Thomas - Harding

 

Lallana - Schneiderlin - Hammond - Holmes

 

Lambert - Saganowski

 

Subs: Bialkowski, Lancashire, James, Gillett, Gobern, Rasiak, Paterson

 

Not sure agree with your team entirely but the words are very accurate.

People are saying its all the players but there is not a single sign of tactics unless you call hoofing it tactics. No direction and no pattern of play which to me points to the manager!!!!

[Bailey]

so mills who has actually proven himself in this league and looks one of our best young players doesn't make the squad, but lallana keeps his place because...?

 

I forgot about Mills, but I'd happily have either he or Holmes at left-midfield. Can't understand why Holmes can't get near the team. If the rumours are true that he's on the verge of leaving, then I find it baffling to be honest. He's our only natural winger and arguably the best left-sided player at the club.

[Ed Rooney]

Davis

 

Murty - Perry - Thomas - Harding

 

Holmes - Schneiderlin - Hammond - Mills

 

Lambert - Saganowski

 

 

Subs: Bialkowski, Lallana, James, Gillett, Gobern, White, Paterson

[JonnyLove]

this is now a joke..

 

I was so optimistic...even shrugged the huddersfield defeat off..

 

but swindon town....jesus christ

 

I should point out that swindon in this league are not that bad and can you remember the last time we won at their ground.

 

Saying that yes I do agree we need a CB and decent CM but be fair we have only been going about a month so we all know it will take a bit of time to sort it out.

[Fitzhugh Fella]

ffs...only been about 4 years or so...

 

You need to get a grip mate - you spend half your life on here berating people who dare to criticise (having been to the games) and then you start a knee jerk thread having a go at the club for not signing a centre half - this after telling us Thomas is the best thing since sliced bread. May I suggest, with respect, you spend less time at your keyboard typing a load of crap and get your arse out there and actually take a look at a game or two. And then come back on here and give us the benefit of your undoubted intellect.

[captainchris]

I forgot about Mills, but I'd happily have either he or Holmes at left-midfield. Can't understand why Holmes can't get near the team. If the rumours are true that he's on the verge of leaving, then I find it baffling to be honest. He's our only natural winger and arguably the best left-sided player at the club.

 

Thats because Holmes can see that Pardew will not play wide men - that's just one of his many faults.

 

I'm not joking when I say he is looking incompetant Pardew that is.....

[Thedelldays]

You need to get a grip mate - you spend half your life on here berating people who dare to criticise (having been to the games) and then you start a knee jerk thread having a go at the club for not signing a centre half - this after telling us Thomas is the best thing since sliced bread. May I suggest, with respect, you spend less time at your keyboard typing a load of crap and get your arse out there and actually take a look at a game or two. And then come back on here and give us the benefit of your undoubted intellect.

 

 

cheers....for that..did not realise this was not a place for opinions

 

we all know you are ITK and love to show it off...

 

will certainly go to games if, you can pay for my petrol for the £350 mile round trip every weekend..?

 

deal..?

[Thedelldays]

Oh..FF

 

do you not think the we need a CB and yes, I do believe thomas is about the only one who could do a job in this league if partnered with the right person..

 

or am I not allowed to say that as I dont go as much as you..

 

is that what it has come to again..? who goes to games and who does not..?

[eurosaint]

so mills who has actually proven himself in this league and looks one of our best young players doesn't make the squad, but lallana keeps his place because...?

 

also, drop thomas and perry and just play two trees. they'll block more and hold position better.

 

That's because he is injured !!

[Katalinic]

Davis

 

Murty - Perry - Thomas - Harding

 

Holmes - Schneiderlin - Hammond - Mills

 

Lambert - Saganowski

 

 

Subs: Bialkowski, Lallana, James, Gillett, Gobern, White, Paterson

 

What is worrying is Perry, Thomas and Lancashire are all weak links in defence. Spiderman is too lighweight in midfield as is Lallana. Holmes is left footed so it appears we have option on the right (Thomson only seems to be able to play well against non-league teams). Gobern, White and Patterson are not ready. James is ok at RB but not in midfield, Wotton is not good anywhere. Saga and Rasiak don't want to be here - so what are we left with.....not much.

 

If this was the start of pre-season then Davis, Murty, Harding, Gillett, Hammond, Lambert, Mills are probably the only ones who I would keep (as well as loaning out a few youngsters). unfortunately we are having to have our pre-season in August and into September.

Edited 18 August, 2009 by Katalinic

[Micky]

lallana need dropping

 

There's a queue - wait your turn eh...!

[SNSUN]

I'm glad i only had to put up with the game tonight by reading what was on here, but from the sounds of it we were shyte, with not even attempts to get back into it. It's now blindingly obvious to everyone we need two centre backs. Thomas has more injury problems than A&E, Perry is so old i'm suprised he hasn't been turned into glue yet, and Lancashire is a red card waiting to happen.

 

I'm hoping Hammond steels up the midfield a bit, a lot rather, as it needs it. As has been said before, without pace in the side we'll never threaten anyone.

 

This loss is the worse of the two, especially after Huddersfield romped home 7-1 tonight, but I still think Pardew will have brought in at least one centre back by Saturday. He surely has to.

 

If he doesn't, well I still think we'll win on Saturday, but we'd all sleep better in our beds knowing Lancs and Wots weren't in the first XI!

[NI76]

cheers....for that..did not realise this was not a place for opinions

 

we all know you are ITK and love to show it off...

 

will certainly go to games if, you can pay for my petrol for the £350 mile round trip every weekend..?

 

deal..?

 

Of course it's a place for opinions, it's just the obnoxious and sanctimonious way you put yours across.

 

The fact that most of them end up being proved wrong, i.e. "Wotte will keep us up" and that you base them having not seen many games just makes it worse.

[modern matron]

1) Yes we need CB's and HAVE done since Killer got injured

2) BUT, even JT would struggle in this team at the moment as there simply is nothing in front of them

 

It's very difficult stopping a Tsunami even with a big breakwater

 

Phil, perhaps you might consider my point of view with a litle more respect now? I have been roundly criticised by you and others for suggesting change is to slow and that we need to overhaul this squad quickly. You gave me a bull**** lecture on how the Swiss way is slow and measured, and that poor AP hasn't got coaching or scouting staff and is so busy etc etc. Well frankly that's bull**** and I'm sick of it and want some change quickly before we are in div 2. It was bad enough last season but jeez this is worse!!!!

 

2 CB's a winger and a fast striker as a minimum. Get rid of or put in the reserve players tainted with a losing mentality.....

[Fitzhugh Fella]

cheers....for that..did not realise this was not a place for opinions

 

we all know you are ITK and love to show it off...

 

will certainly go to games if, you can pay for my petrol for the £350 mile round trip every weekend..?

 

deal..?

 

I haven't got a problem with you not going to games because you live a long way away but you sure have a big gob for someone who doesn't go to matches - perhaps you would be better served respecting the opinions of the fans that do go and keep quiet until you get to a match yourself - then your opinion will hold a little more water.

[Thedelldays]

Of course it's a place for opinions, it's just the obnoxious and sanctimonious way you put yours across.

 

The fact that most of them end up being proved wrong, i.e. "Wotte will keep us up" and that you base them having not seen many games just makes it worse.

 

so...most, ie wotte..where else have I been wrong..

 

we are all right and all wrong..that is what this place is about..isnt it..?

 

unless you are always right (along with FF) and that is that..

 

I hold my hands up, I am wrong sometimes, so what. does it effect your day and make you (and FF) feel the need to have a pop at someone rather than debate the subject posted..

 

sad really, when you think about it...

[Micky]

Everybody here seems to think that a couple of CB's will be the answer to our problems - but from what I heard tonight, they wiped the floor with us in midfield, we never created a chance and never scored a goal. Gonna need to be some CB to sort that little lot out.

 

Well played KD, again.

[Thedelldays]

I haven't got a problem with you not going to games because you live a long way away but you sure have a big gob for someone who doesn't go to matches - perhaps you would be better served respecting the opinions of the fans that do go and keep quiet until you get to a match yourself - then your opinion will hold a little more water.

 

so what...?

 

how utterly sad you are if you feel the need to comment on the poster (which you do) rather than the post...

 

and who the hell are you to tell me when I should or should not post...?

 

do you think I (or anyone) really cares if our opinions hold water or not on this place..it is here for fun, entertainment and pointless twaddle...

 

jesus, get over yourself

[modern matron]

You need to get a grip mate - you spend half your life on here berating people who dare to criticise (having been to the games) and then you start a knee jerk thread having a go at the club for not signing a centre half - this after telling us Thomas is the best thing since sliced bread. May I suggest, with respect, you spend less time at your keyboard typing a load of crap and get your arse out there and actually take a look at a game or two. And then come back on here and give us the benefit of your undoubted intellect.

 

Ther's been a lot of this. I have been roundly slagged off for my opinion that change is taking to long, and we are going to be in a real mess if we carry on like this. I read that NC is having to spend a lot of time dealing with creditors hence slowing transfers up.Why!!

[NI76]

so...most, ie wotte..where else have I been wrong..

 

we are all right and all wrong..that is what this place is about..isnt it..?

 

unless you are always right (along with FF) and that is that..

 

I hold my hands up, I am wrong sometimes, so what. does it effect your day and make you (and FF) feel the need to have a pop at someone rather than debate the subject posted..

 

sad really, when you think about it...

 

As I said above, of course it's a place for opinions it's simply the way you put yours across which got my back up and clearly FF's as well. Simple as, no other reason.

[Fitzhugh Fella]

so what...?

 

how utterly sad you are if you feel the need to comment on the poster (which you do) rather than the post...

 

and who the hell are you to tell me when I should or should not post...?

 

do you think I (or anyone) really cares if our opinions hold water or not on this place..it is here for fun, entertainment and pointless twaddle...

 

jesus, get over yourself

 

of course you are entitled to post and there have been times when I have enjoyed your contributions but just recently you have been obnoxious and aggressive in your views.

 

I think you know you have been an arse - take it like a man and skip the cheap jibes - they do you no credit. When are you next coming to SMS - meet for a pint if you like?

[Thedelldays]

As I said above, of course it's a place for opinions it's simply the way you put yours across which got my back up and clearly FF's as well. Simple as, no other reason.

rather sad though dont you think...have I been offensive in this post or any post recently..?

have I been personal..? am I wrong..?

 

quite sad from grown adults, if you ask me

[Thedelldays]

of course you are entitled to post and there have been times when I have enjoyed your contributions but just recently you have been obnoxious and aggressive in your views.

 

I think you know you have been an arse - take it like a man and skip the cheap jibes - they do you no credit. When are you next coming to SMS - meet for a pint if you like?

going sat...and would rather not thanks

[Fitzhugh Fella]

going sat...and would rather not thanks

 

why not - what are you frightened off - an olive branch?

[thorpie the sinner]

still sat at the computer in stunned silence! close to tears!! yep, its just a football club, but its no differnce when you care about something!!! just hope it can be sorted!

[DrunkenSaint]

Hate to say it, but Pards has got a bit to answer for tonight. His team selection was baffling to say the least. Why is Gillett not in the side? Why is Holmes nowhere to be seen? Why play Wotton when he clearly isn't up to it? Why wait til stoppage-time before bringing Rasiak on? For me, our best team would be this:

 

Davis

 

Murty - Perry - Thomas - Harding

 

Lallana - Schneiderlin - Hammond - Holmes

 

Lambert - Saganowski

 

Subs: Bialkowski, Lancashire, James, Gillett, Gobern, Rasiak, Paterson

 

lallana isnt a winger this is the biggest problem, i would drop him and put in a true winger...either buy one or look in the reserves but do not play lallana. Rest of the team is what id play though.

[The Fat Controller]

Davis

 

Murty - Perry - Thomas - Harding

 

Lallana - Schneiderlin - Hammond - Holmes

 

Lambert - Saganowski

 

youd be better off with James at RM then Lallana floating behind Lambert

[Smirking_Saint]

Calm down, it will be ok, it is the start of the season, honestly ?? We are not going to get promoted this season, i think possibly if we get things sorted then we will. But it is the beginning, AP is bringing players in, AP is getting used to the team.

 

I admit i am concerned however i am not alarmed. We need some more steel and creativity in midfield, i feel AP is sortin that with Melis and Hammond.

 

Our defence is weak and set piece prone, it has been for ages, and if AP is not working on that in training he will, that and he is obviously looking at CB's, he has stated it, for me thomas is a waste of space, which is a shame for a man like a bus, i have said it before and i say it again, he is just not dominant enough.

 

Lambert is scoring that is a plus, and as soon as we match him with a real worker it will prove dividends. Have patience, i feel it will be ok. But then, i am far too optimistic

[Rebel]

its not AP's fault we don't have the players in the squad to put out a decent team - give him a chance

 

we have no CBs in their 20's, no right midfielder or winger, no 20 something right back, only one striker in his peak years

 

we need players between the age of 23 and 29 for each and every position

 

Andrew Davies, Chris Baird, David Pruttpn, Chris Hackett, Phil Ifil, Craig Bryson, Craddock, Eastwood off the top of my head

 

I not saying we should sign them all but there is no reason why we can't get most if not some of them!

[saints-cris]

It is frustrating, now dont get me wrong. Lambert is a quality signing.. but my god we need a defence. Full backs are fine, hes addressed that, but oh my god.. please, please can we get a defence. I would love to think of our Saints side as capable of nicking 1-0 wins. You build from the back surely? If we dont concede many then we can do that! 2 CB's needed.

 

I know its very early days and im trying to shrug off these defeats, and im sure we will turn it around, but we gotta knock these points off asap, and i just dont want us to sort it all out too late.

[Alain Perrin]

lallana need dropping

 

Lallana needs shooting.

 

Until he can...

 

1) Give us some width and not wander into the middle at every opportunity. I'm all for licence to roam, but he takes the ****.

2) Learns to tackle and get close to his man when not in possession.

3) Provides support to his left back (see 1)

4) Not receive every ball and move it backwards (I swear, every time he got the ball tonight he moved back 4 yards before thinking of moving it forward - oh, too late, closed down).

 

He's got good tricks and skills, but for me he's too lightweight, tries to do to much with the ball, too late.

 

I don't think he's a winger. And I think he's too lightweight for the centre of midfield.

 

A conundrum.

[Saints foreva]

We need at least two CBs, a winger and a striker.

 

If we don't we may find another relegation battle here. Tonights performance was one of the worst I have ever seen since relegation from the Prem.

[alehouseboys]

We need at least two CBs, a winger and a striker.

 

If we don't we may find another relegation battle here. Tonights performance was one of the worst I have ever seen since relegation from the Prem.

 

Quite obviously we do but it's gonna get harder and harder attracting any decent player here when we're performing like that and rooted to the bottom of League One on -9.

 

We're the best part of a month behind everyone else thanks to our calamitous pre-season so as notorious bad-starters...on minus 10...it was always gonna be ugly.

 

Kelvin Davis has already proven to be the steal of the century. Thank f*ck for that!