Gordon Mockles Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 Just home. The less said, the better. Pardew picked a poor squad & changed it much too late. Lack lustre performance. Even the catering was diabolical & fans crap & super *****y (although they had reason to moan). All I can say is, West Hams fans moaned loads at first, then he got them promoted & they changed their tune. Whilst I am dismayed (esp. the efforts & journey I took to get there, amongst many others no doubt), It's early days & AP is still working out his squad due to very little prep. He selected a poor squad & poor shape tonight. Castigated by a clueless squad - idol, sloppy & statuesque. Harding, Murty & Lambert have hardly been poor acquisitions although these uncommitted, featherweight, lack lustre kids need a lesson in movement, discipline & desire to compete. To compete to win. Forgetting the defeats momentarily, football fans are fickle & people need to let their emotions subside. It's early days & Pardew had so little time to prepare. He knows what to do. It's just the squad don't yet. If we get Hammond (a much needed replacement for Wotton!) & 1 or 2 more in a restructured squad, performances & subsequent results should improve. I do believe I, along with many more fans, got deluded by this feel good factor & this season is not going to be as easy as we possibly expected. Teams will come at us & we will need to battle & fight for every loose ball & become much, MUCH more physical. Players like Mellis need to fight for the cause or f*ck off. Chelsea or not. He showed a total lack of commitment. Not even pacey as expected. Patterson, Schniederlin, James, esq. get knocked off the ball wayyy too easily. Lambert needs support & playing 1 striker with a cluster f*ck midfield is clearly not working. Back to the drawing board... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser Soze Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 PARDEW OUT No motivation. Abosolutely no tactical awareness. Pardew if you're reading this, you upset a lot of people tonight, do the honourable thing and f**k off f**king quick you stupid c**t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 PARDEW OUT No motivation. Abosolutely no tactical awareness. Pardew if you're reading this, you upset a lot of people tonight, do the honourable thing and f**k off f**king quick you stupid c**t.Oh my gawd! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torres Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 Lallana contributed far less. He needs to work out how to play on the wing, or how to sit on the bench. Too much flash, too little product. Except if your left winger is having a mare, it's rarely terminal to your chances of winning a game. When one of your central midfielders is putting the kind of dreadful performances that Wotton has done for the whole of the last 2 games, you're never going anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sfc90 Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 From the off we could clearly see they were playing from the back and Lambert was and would be chasing shadows all night. Should of put Paterson upfront with Lambert and put Mellis out wide right. I have never seen so much HOOFage in one game in my life! Lancashire, Thomas and Wotton need shipping out asap. For the size of the two CB's, ****ing hell they are WEAK. Not panicking yet but, a shake up is clearly needed in many areas. Not having a dig at Pardew but why bring on rasiak for olly in the 91st minute? pointless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 PARDEW OUT No motivation. Abosolutely no tactical awareness. Pardew if you're reading this, you upset a lot of people tonight, do the honourable thing and f**k off f**king quick you stupid c**t. I thought he was poor tactically tonight, but... honestly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torres Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 PARDEW OUT No motivation. Abosolutely no tactical awareness. Pardew if you're reading this, you upset a lot of people tonight, do the honourable thing and f**k off f**king quick you stupid c**t. Where you the bellend in the Arkells stand calling for his head after 30 minutes tonight? 30 minutes of his third league game in charge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedAndWhite91 Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 PARDEW OUT No motivation. Abosolutely no tactical awareness. Pardew if you're reading this, you upset a lot of people tonight, do the honourable thing and f**k off f**king quick you stupid c**t. Is this a joke? Leave it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Mockles Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 There were plenty worse performances than Wooton. Maradona he ain't, but to make him a scapegoat is wrong IMO. He's the only big un we have in the middle and, much as I rate Gillett, he's not the tallest. Lallana contributed far less. He needs to work out how to play on the wing, or how to sit on the bench. Too much flash, too little product. Wrong! How can you possibly purport Wotton created more than Lallana when he struggles to pick out a pass to his team mates (he was by no means the worst tonight but also equally guilty as most on the field) We were extremely poor but, along with Harding, at least Lallana was trying. He doesn't stay wide & often cuts inside but he was running & chasing & trying to create. More than can be said for most (particularly Mellis). It's just most players were static, ball watching or out of position. The rare balls Wotton won, along with our centre backs, were headed or pinged straight back to the opposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser Soze Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 I thought he was poor tactically tonight, but... honestly? Yes. I was at Huddersfield on Saturday when we were equally inept. Regardless of the players involved, I would at the very least expect them to be motivated. Millwall, Huddersfield and Swindon (I've attended all three) we have been beaten (by a long way) for effort. There is no will to win. No pride in the shirt. No f**k all. Pardew f**k off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northant Saint Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 My report: Long balls right from the start. Everytime we got the ball in space (which was rarely) all we seemed to want to do was go backwards back to Kelv. Absolutely no attacking mentality there what so ever. Lallana was the only player who really made cutting forward runs, but nobody seemed to want to receive the ball. No closing down, Swindon had ages at the back. What concerned me the most though was Pardew. Hand folded all game, quite silent. Whatever he said in the dressing room clearly had no effect at all, and the subs made were way to late to have any impact, Gillet again discarded. Now I know these things take time, but I was still frankly discusted with the lazy and uncreative manner of our play, and the reluctance of Pardew to change anything. Lets hope things improve, and fast... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graemeread1234 Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 I went to the game tonight, apart from the last 10 minutes, we never looked like scoring, Rubbish performance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 £22 for a ticket, plus travel etc. Never worth it for that Lambert, couldnt hold up a bloody bank Paterson, played out of position, but still stank Lallana, pass it FFS. Your slow, get over it. Wotton- F-off Lancashire- If im short for the local at the weekend, ill give u a buzz James- turn inside again, go on, they wont guess Thomas- Gave me kneck ache Davis- Seemed to be the most passed to player, and even then thought it safest to kick it out, so did i looking at the options. Pathetic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwichsaint Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 KD 8 for his shot-stopping heroics: Zip for organisation and communication with his defence. I lost count of the times the ball bounced across our 6 yd box in the second half and they could have scored a scrappy tap-in half a dozen times, he must take some responsibilty for this. LJ 3: poor game, repeatedly done for pace and nil impact going forward; a squad/cover player at best on this showing. OL 1: you had to be there to see it, beyond woeful. WT 4: sooo slow on the ground but at least he is prepared to mix it in the air. Shocking distribution, either a hoof, a giant header (to no one), or pings it knee high to somebody 10m away. Harding 5: really poor first half, improved in the second. Apparently he delivers a mean cross but I couldn't possibly comment on that as he didn't cross the halfway line all game. Patterson 1: played totally out of position and made himself look a bit of a fool on the night. Not entirely his fault and I quite rate him in the middle but a pro footballer should surely be able to trap, pass, and move in the right positions to receive the ball wherever they are asked to play? Wotton 4: far from our worse player on the day (hopefully Col boy will be replacing him soonest and we can get away from the pathetic scape-goating, anybody who gives him a 0 or a 1 tonight needs to give that mark to half a dozen others too). Morgan 2: FFS! This guy is supposed to be an international captain! Can anybody imagine a 20 year old Cesc Fabregas, or a 20 year old Alan Ball being bullied out a game by 3rd Division S-W-I-N-D-O-N T-O-W-N? He contributed the sq root of nothing tonight (again!). One that needs to shape up or ship out very quickly. Chelsea boy 3: looked good but zero impact. Llalana 2: never a wide player and always narrows our options when he plays there. All the touches but zero impact, in fact, same old, same old. Lambert 4: huffed and puffed and clearly not suited to the lone striker role. Of the current squad, for me, he needs to play with either Llalana or Rasiak (or ideally with a new pocket striker in the Cottee/Dickov mould). Pardew? Funny selection/formation and 'interesting' subs. Fortunately (for him!) he will be judged on where we are after 92 games, so any attempt to do so after 3 is probably a tad premature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texas_saint Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Same ****, different day. Are they taking bets on us finishing the season with negative points total? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Oh come on FF.......you can't carry on blaming Lowe for everything. He's history just like the others who got us into a big mess. I notice Tony 'you're getting your club back' Lynam is conspicuous by his absensce....if you are reading this board, thanks for costing us pre-season and making sure we start on the back foot with your Walter Mitty 15 minutes of fame. Pardew has to start earning his money....slagging the players off is not going to work. And this is no longer a 'young side'...only Lallana, James, Lancashire and Paterson were from our Academy. I am, already, starting to get worried we have a terrible, terrible manager. Hopefully very, very wrong but why play Wotton, bring Rasiak on in added time, make no subs until way too late and generally play awful tactics.....no way is Lallana a RM/LM: play him in the hole for goodness sake! so basically Lallana can only play in one position in one system? you could build a team around MLT BUT SURELY NOT Lallana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 AP, Saturday is a must must must must win, if we don't win then it'll be, to me, the biggest let down of all season. No pressure. Please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nutkins Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 I am all for being patient, nodding, smiling and waiting but that performance last night was awful and un-acceptable.Yes we need players, yes we have had a terrible pre-season and build up but for pity's sake why did it take 80 mins to try and change it.3,OOO Saints fans could see the team needed altering.Rasiak looked bemused as he stood on the touch line waiting to come on .......for added time FFS! I can only deduce AP was in shock at what he was seeing, or he has stumbled across some left-overs from a previous regime.In the cold light of day at this early hour the performance seems even worse.I will be there Saturday expecting to see everyone pulling in the same direction, and dragging this club up by it's boot-strings....................:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkie Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 If you have that losing mentality - and you know Kelvin will stop almost everything - a draw is the best you can hope for 0-0. However we aren't even good enough for that - we must look to score. Two things...where is the midfield? Following Millwall game - reports stated we had a defence, what's gone wrong? Another sloppy set piece goal conceded. I didn't go or listen - but watched the BBC commentary during the game, and it sounded dire. I believe Mr. Pardew is making a point to his superiors. They may all be "Championship" players on decent money - but none of them are worth diddly squat without heart. Nothing new really - we need a midfield general (is this going to be Hammond?) and a decent centre back. We need to add some pace and width and pass the ball to players in red & white striped shirts. I feel sorry for RL (no not the dark lord) - he comes to a big club and all he gets is a ball hoofed up to him with no support. He can't score from headers unless he gets crosses - so when is he going to score again? He alos can't score by shooting unless someone brings the ball from midfield and creates some space - and passes to him! I keep telling myself it's only 3-games in and the transfer window closes in a couple of weeks (12-days and counting), and Pardew has little or no preparation time with the squad. But honestly I think the Titanic stayed up longer than us on it's travels from Southampton...and just like the Titanic there are only going to be a few survivors. The fans have turned out in force (again) after pleading form the new owners, but it's about time those being paid to perform - start performing. How do I feel? I've got a Leeds ST work mate sitting on 9-points. I visit Colchester on Saturday - sitting pretty at the top of the Division. It's not a good day to be a Saints fan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 It's not a good day to be a Saints fan! It has not been good being a Saints Fan since 2004. I wonder how many league games we have won in that time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Anyone know if Mr Liebherr kept the receipt? lmfao, hopefully he lost it in the wash down the laundrette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 I knew it. Watched Swindon twice last season and us alot. Knew we'd struggle to get a draw and they'd be more likely to win. As I have said, too many times since December, Lowe's legacy players are not good enough for this league. We must have a big clear out - including the younger players - and buy in 5-6 seasoned professionals as quickly as possible. We need to remove the loser mentality that has prevailed at this club since Lowe returned. Until his players are finally booted out and Pardew has his team we're destined for a relegation scrap. Minus 9 points and at this rate we're going to take 19 more games to reach zero points. Get buying Alan! Marcus... we need your money earlier than you thought you'd need to spend it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 PARDEW OUT No motivation. Abosolutely no tactical awareness. Pardew if you're reading this, you upset a lot of people tonight, do the honourable thing and f**k off f**king quick you stupid c**t. errrr.... no. AP is not the problem... our Lowe legacy players are. Big team change needed. We have the manager, we have the backer, we have the infrastructure, we have the fans... now we need 5-6 seasoned professionals and to ship out Lowe's young men (and Wotton). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 KD 8 for his shot-stopping heroics: Zip for organisation and communication with his defence. I lost count of the times the ball bounced across our 6 yd box in the second half and they could have scored a scrappy tap-in half a dozen times, he must take some responsibilty for this. LJ 3: poor game, repeatedly done for pace and nil impact going forward; a squad/cover player at best on this showing. OL 1: you had to be there to see it, beyond woeful. WT 4: sooo slow on the ground but at least he is prepared to mix it in the air. Shocking distribution, either a hoof, a giant header (to no one), or pings it knee high to somebody 10m away. Harding 5: really poor first half, improved in the second. Apparently he delivers a mean cross but I couldn't possibly comment on that as he didn't cross the halfway line all game. Patterson 1: played totally out of position and made himself look a bit of a fool on the night. Not entirely his fault and I quite rate him in the middle but a pro footballer should surely be able to trap, pass, and move in the right positions to receive the ball wherever they are asked to play? Wotton 4: far from our worse player on the day (hopefully Col boy will be replacing him soonest and we can get away from the pathetic scape-goating, anybody who gives him a 0 or a 1 tonight needs to give that mark to half a dozen others too). Morgan 2: FFS! This guy is supposed to be an international captain! Can anybody imagine a 20 year old Cesc Fabregas, or a 20 year old Alan Ball being bullied out a game by 3rd Division S-W-I-N-D-O-N T-O-W-N? He contributed the sq root of nothing tonight (again!). One that needs to shape up or ship out very quickly. Chelsea boy 3: looked good but zero impact. Llalana 2: never a wide player and always narrows our options when he plays there. All the touches but zero impact, in fact, same old, same old. Lambert 4: huffed and puffed and clearly not suited to the lone striker role. Of the current squad, for me, he needs to play with either Llalana or Rasiak (or ideally with a new pocket striker in the Cottee/Dickov mould). Pardew? Funny selection/formation and 'interesting' subs. Fortunately (for him!) he will be judged on where we are after 92 games, so any attempt to do so after 3 is probably a tad premature. Players we need to ship out from this team urgently. They should never wear red and white again: Wotton, Patterson, Lancashire, James. Players with potential to recover their positions: Thomas, Spiderman Players in current squad who should be fighting for a bench place only: Spiderman, Lallana, Gillett. We need experience... and AP is starting to get it in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Shocking performance, playing 4-5-1 with no width at all is just ridiculous. Wotton offers nothing one of the worst signings we've ever made, Gillett must be sleeping with pardews missus because he's a much better player than Wotton. Thomas and Lancashire where both gash as well and need replacing asap Size would be a good start, someone at the back who's composed on the ball is something we seriously lack. After the last two games I'm seriously ****ed off with Pardew and the players it's difficult to see where we go forward from here but I'd make whole sale changes. Davis James Thomas Perry Harding Thompson Hammond Millis Gobern Saganowski Lambert Can't do any worse than that shower of ****e have done recently. We need new players asap or were gonna end up in a relegation scrap. That was a really **** way to let down 3000 fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westburysaints Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 That was my first ever away game and quite possibly my last! To loose to Swindon Town is embarrassing, but it would of been better if we had tried to battle back but we didnt, it would have been better if we played the ball forward rather than back to the keeper all the time, but we didnt!! On the bright side, it can only get better from here, dont think we could get any lower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Shocking performance, playing 4-5-1 with no width at all is just ridiculous. Wotton offers nothing one of the worst signings we've ever made, Gillett must be sleeping with pardews missus because he's a much better player than Wotton. Thomas and Lancashire where both gash as well and need replacing asap Size would be a good start, someone at the back who's composed on the ball is something we seriously lack. After the last two games I'm seriously ****ed off with Pardew and the players it's difficult to see where we go forward from here but I'd make whole sale changes. Davis James Thomas Perry Harding Thompson Hammond Millis Gobern Saganowski Lambert Can't do any worse than that shower of ****e have done recently. We need new players asap or were gonna end up in a relegation scrap. That was a really **** way to let down 3000 fans. All the team selection over the last 2 games proves is that Lowe's kids are not good enough. When AP gets HIS team to reinforce some of the men like KD, Lambert, Hammond and gets a defence we're in business! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Gutted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 All the team selection over the last 2 games proves is that Lowe's kids are not good enough. When AP gets HIS team to reinforce some of the men like KD, Lambert, Hammond and gets a defence we're in business! I hope you're right but it just looked like AP didn't have any idea yesterday, I was dissapointed with the way he set the side up and the lack of changes. I have been impressed with his signings Harding, Lambert, Millis and Murty all look class but i'm not convinced we're going to sign many more players before September, if we don't get any wingers in then staying up will be a struggle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Players we need to ship out from this team urgently. They should never wear red and white again: Wotton, Patterson, Lancashire, James. That's a bit harsh on Paterson and James both forced to play out of position and both still young. Agreed on Wotton and Lancashire, don't think either will ever be good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paris Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 OH Dear not happy reading ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 That's a bit harsh on Paterson and James both forced to play out of position and both still young. Agreed on Wotton and Lancashire, don't think either will ever be good enough. But I havent seen them perform IN position either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Lallana reminds me of Fabrice Fernandes, crop circles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Am i the only one concerned about KD and the type of goals we concede. This is going to be unpopular but it also highlights the biggest weakness in KD's game, he does not command the box at set pieces and his lack of height gets exposed , after saying that he gets no protection . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daren W Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 That's a bit harsh on Paterson and James both forced to play out of position and both still young. Agreed on Wotton and Lancashire, don't think either will ever be good enough. Agree with that. Lancashire was woeful, the Swindon ball boy had a helluva job last night as Lancashire smacked the ball out of play at every opportunity. It culminated in him tapping the ball out of play with two defenders behind him well capable of getting it from him. James, again looked like a rabbit in the headlights, getting caught out time after time after time. Nowhere near a defender. Wayne Thomas, certainly solid in the air but his distribution was shocking, hoofing the ball upfield every time. Wooton, we needed a leader and we got him instead. He may look the part but sadly that's off the pitch. On the pitch he is woeful, no craft, no skill and no ability. Shocking. Lallana, why is he the butt of everyone's ire? He looked the only one, along with Mellis, capable of creating anything. You will need passion and effort in league but you'll also need craft and like him or not he has skill. Paterson is not a winger. He played there last season and I didn't rate him but playing up front this, looked a different player. He's a striker, use him as one. Apart from Davis, who was sensational, and Lambert who was on his own, it's hard to pick out anyone who shone in a night of of complete and utter dullness. It's going to be a long, long season if we can't beat Swindon... who were crap I hasten to add but we were just a whole lot worse.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daren W Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Am i the only one concerned about KD and the type of goals we concede. This is going to be unpopular but it also highlights the biggest weakness in KD's game, he does not command the box at set pieces and his lack of height gets exposed , after saying that he gets no protection . No, you're not mate. It was a soft, soft goal.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 No, you're not mate. It was a soft, soft goal.... so was millwall's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 just seen the goal on SSN, where was everyone!? Thomas's man? Couldnt see it that well from my seat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spank_182 Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 James, Lancashire, Wotton and Patterson all starting - no wonder we lost. None are good enough to be playing each week in this league, Wotton's just generally not very good, and the others need to be elsewhere to learn the game. Can forgive Patterson for being played out of position, but after seeing him on the wing against Ajax where he didnt have a clue, it was never going to be good playing him there last night. James is overated and everyone know's Lancashire should be emergency use only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowds Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 my summary Davis- Stopped it being 4 or 5 good as ever Harding- No support ran his ******** off not to blame Wancashire- deserves no words ''shakes head'' Thomas- Tried hard but when anyones next to wancashire you've got your work cut out James- average at best Patterson- didnt know what he was supposed to do the guy is not a winger, wasted basicly marked mellis Mellis- Slow start but worked hard Wotton- missed 99% of challenges, too slow, crap in the air, terrible distribution.. moaned at others when his passes put them under pressure and they lost the ball Morgan- one of the only players trying to play, but still hoofing it too much Lallana- both footed my arse turned in everytime triedto walk it in the net, too lightweight not a winger lambert- had to drop deep to even see the ball imo not his fault no service Still ****ed off how they just ****ed off down the tunnel 3k away fans in league 1 and they did not turn up. In all a disgraceful display. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 That was utter toilet last night. I haven't seen us play that bad since Bristol Rovers in the FA Cup, absolutely apalling! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 All seems completely at odds with that first training session Pilchards witnessed where Pardew was drilling positional awareness and discipline into the players from day 1.... The team he is picking with no width, Holmes and Gillett ignored, Wotton a fixture, the idiosyncratic undisciplined Lallana picked no matter how badly he performs, no balance or players complementing each other, 11 back for corners and nobody taking responsibility. He needs time, but he also has to show he has a grip on what we have got and that isn't happening. He is not helping himself. We are a shapeless, haphazard mess at the moment with the keepers saves keeping us in it. If he picks Wotton and Hammond together against Brentford it will finish him for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Can't win em all :smt085 But we should say well done to Swindon. 1 Point out of 9 might look bad, but tis early days. Would be palatable just about as a bad start but the fact is we are minus 9 out of 9! We had to start eating into our deficit from day one! unfortunately we have failed again and are cast adrift at the bottom! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints_is_the_south Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Awful display last night. We desperatly need 3 or 4 more players even with Hammond's signing. Lancashire & Wotton were just dreadful, they are simply not up to it at this level & i wonder if they would cut it in league 2 either. Lancashire just has no positional sense, can't pass, can't head. Every time he got the ball he'd just hoof it up the pitch which normally resulted in it going out for a throw to them. Wotton - every single corner he just stood on the penalty spot waving his arms around in the air telling the others to mark up yet he didn't ever pick up a man himself, perhaps if he concentrated on who he was meant to be marking it may have helped us. Apart from that his passing is just woeful, hardly ever picks out a Saints player and when he does its a crap pass that puts the other player under pressure. Why Pardew left it so late to bring Saga & Rasiak on is anybody's guess. I know they both want to leave so you either don't put them on the bench atall & if you then f*cking use them ffs. Really, really need a win on Saturday now otherwise the fans might start turning on Pardew already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Lallana reminds me of Fabrice Fernandes, crop circles Fabrice would be a star in League 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint63 Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 I'm as bitterly disappointed as the rest of us about last night's performance. We were simply brushed aside by a more physical and stronger team. However, it's too early yet to right us off. It's not long since July when we didn't think we'd even have a team to watch at all. Short memories!! Let's start believing that this year will be the start of the turnaround, not the turnaround itself. We'll see where we are at Christmas. A mid table position is the best we can expect, but the signs are good with the signings already made. The signing of a combative and mobile midfield focus will certainly help on last night's showing. Now we need a commanding centre half to play alongside Thomas, who's a good player - and one we were told under the previous regime was too costly for League 1 and would move to a Championship club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Yes. I was at Huddersfield on Saturday when we were equally inept. Regardless of the players involved, I would at the very least expect them to be motivated. Millwall, Huddersfield and Swindon (I've attended all three) we have been beaten (by a long way) for effort. There is no will to win. No pride in the shirt. No f**k all. Pardew f**k off. You should be ashamed of your comments in this post and your previous one. So your saying as Saints fans we have some divine right to win our first three games? okay the performances and sometimes effort has been poor. But to come out with a tirade of abusive language against Pardew after three games is just insane. Personally I would have banned you for post 205 if I was a mod, I understand your anger but there is no place for that on this forum. Its something you'd expect that lot down the road to say not a saints fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 Oh Dear! We are in very serious danger of relegation. 1 point from the first 9 is exactly what I predicted would happen and it gives me no pleasure that my worst fears have been realised. We are definitely Relegation candidates now and unfortunately Division 4 beckons with a very beckoning forefinger. Misery upon misery and there is no way we can beg borrow or buy our way out of this mess. It is not possible to replace seven or eight players with enough quality players. Everyone is after the same people and there just isn't the talent to go around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 We need a proper midfield. Anyone who thought that last season's engine room could have been tuned up and provide a service in League one was very deluded. All four need replacing urgently. Oh well, one down, 3 to go and 12 days to get them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 19 August, 2009 Share Posted 19 August, 2009 I believe we need to raid a team for a centre back pairing , who already know each others game. We do not have the time to fanny about.There must be a pair of c/b's at a club that are competant and a club in need of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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