washsaint Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 Oh come on FF.......you can't carry on blaming Lowe for everything. He's history just like the others who got us into a big mess. I notice Tony 'you're getting your club back' Lynam is conspicuous by his absensce....if you are reading this board, thanks for costing us pre-season and making sure we start on the back foot with your Walter Mitty 15 minutes of fame. Pardew has to start earning his money....slagging the players off is not going to work. And this is no longer a 'young side'...only Lallana, James, Lancashire and Paterson were from our Academy. I am, already, starting to get worried we have a terrible, terrible manager. Hopefully very, very wrong but why play Wotton, bring Rasiak on in added time, make no subs until way too late and generally play awful tactics.....no way is Lallana a RM/LM: play him in the hole for goodness sake! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 I suggested Oct/Nov before out of negative into plus points........and I still think its realistic! At which point, following on my post above, we would then be looking at needing 50 points from about 32 games, which is play-off contender form. Attainable, but it might be a close run thing if we leave it that late to really get going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 The play-offs are a pipe dream, we don't have a chance. Pardew needs to sort this squad out just to keep us up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 AP inherited a mess left by 5 years of mismanagement by Lowe. We can't expect him to sort that out in 4 weeks. Those extra 4 weeks wasted by Pinnacle's "never gonna happen" bid are now coming home to roost. Perhaps people's frustrations should be aimed at Pinnacle and the people that gave them oxygen rather than Pinnacle. Just a - no doubt unpopular - thought. Give Pardew a chance - he is far from being the biggest culprit here. Agreed. He has the demeanour of a man who has only just realised what a huge job he has on - he needs our support, it will take time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 Unfortunately, the players we have just aren't good enough. And those calling for Pardews head already......will throwing millions at the team shut you guys up? Yeah? But for how long? FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsbridge Saint Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 Disappointing. Need to ship out a lot more of last season's dross. My messages on here have been consistent on that. Time to start naming and shaming. James, Lancashire, Thomas, Lallana, Wotton, Schneiderlin - not good enough. Get out of my kitchen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 I notice Tony 'you're getting your club back' Lynam is conspicuous by his absensce....if you are reading this board, thanks for costing us pre-season and making sure we start on the back foot with your Walter Mitty 15 minutes of fame. He was last logged in at 09:44 this morning.... http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/member.php?u=11609 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints Warrior Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 Life appears tougher in Division 3. What will not help will be the fact Saints have a team half from last season and half will end up new faces trying to blend in to make a team. We are probally 2 months away from playing as a team, and maybe more as if new players cant make an impact straight away it just replicates what we had last season. An almost team but not quite there to ground out the 3 points when needed. Ok its early some say but Saints need 3 points soon to clear the -9. I dont want to be watching a stale mate game in January with only 24 points gained giving 15 as a real total. I think AP has the experience and contacts to get vertually half a team before January (including ones allready signed) as Saints need experience this season. Saints should really go for at least midtable and look at next season to bring on the young players. CB and wingers look a must. Oh well at least we are not in BSS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 AP inherited a mess left by 5 years of mismanagement by Lowe. We can't expect him to sort that out in 4 weeks. Those extra 4 weeks wasted by Pinnacle's "never gonna happen" bid are now coming home to roost. Perhaps people's frustrations should be aimed at Pinnacle and the people that gave them oxygen rather than Pinnacle. Just a - no doubt unpopular - thought. Give Pardew a chance - he is far from being the biggest culprit here. I think it is very easy to blame Lowe for everything but other clubs have bought in managers who have managed to turn their clubs around that said I still think the team has few players of high ability. Perhaps Wotte did not do a bad job last season after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravesend Saint Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 Why are we not practising defending set pieces?? We probably are but when you think that our corner takers can't get the ball past the first man the practice won't include a high ball in the centre That's why they all look so lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chap in the Chapel Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 AP inherited a mess left by 5 years of mismanagement by Lowe. We can't expect him to sort that out in 4 weeks. Those extra 4 weeks wasted by Pinnacle's "never gonna happen" bid are now coming home to roost. Perhaps people's frustrations should be aimed at Pinnacle and the people that gave them oxygen rather than Pinnacle. Just a - no doubt unpopular - thought. Give Pardew a chance - he is far from being the biggest culprit here. Quite right. Too many players stuck in last season's losing mindset as well. Pardew's had four games to try and change an absolute disaster into a cohesive unit, although his lack of substitutions tonight until the last 10 minutes was absolutely bemusing. I would hope that this defeat and the nature of it will focus a few minds, especially those holding the purse strings. That the team contained Oliver Lancashire, who appears no better than a Sunday League footballer, shows how urgently we need at least one more centre-back. Hammond must not be the last new player we bring in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Milkybarkid Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 Unfortunately, the players we have just aren't good enough. And those calling for Pardews head already......will throwing millions at the team shut you guys up? Yeah? But for how long? FFS. No need to throw millions at the team. A sign that we are forming into a cohesive unit capable of holding our own would suffice for me. But it's not happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BotleySaint Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 revised ambition - just hope we stay up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 Oh come on FF.......you can't carry on blaming Lowe for everything. He's history just like the others who got us into a big mess. I notice Tony 'you're getting your club back' Lynam is conspicuous by his absensce....if you are reading this board, thanks for costing us pre-season and making sure we start on the back foot with your Walter Mitty 15 minutes of fame. Pardew has to start earning his money....slagging the players off is not going to work. And this is no longer a 'young side'...only Lallana, James, Lancashire and Paterson were from our Academy. I am, already, starting to get worried we have a terrible, terrible manager. Hopefully very, very wrong but why play Wotton, bring Rasiak on in added time, make no subs until way too late and generally play awful tactics.....no way is Lallana a RM/LM: play him in the hole for goodness sake! We have enough with the players we have to be performing much better than this. Yes we need a centre back or two etc but the team selection and tactics are the major reason for our total lack of controled football. At least under Portaloo we played good football but couldn't afford the probably a couple of players including centre back. Currently our football is none existant with several new players. It's largely down to no organisation, poor team selection, and no tactics at all. .........Management ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjphilsaint Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 lol too true, suppose that's a positive. we're only being thrashed by Swindon, rather than Kettering. give it time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 give it time! oh i will, i know it'll take time...but it still doesn't feel great to still be loosing, in a league lower Patience is a virtue, but boy does this club wear it thin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Milkybarkid Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 revised ambition - just hope we stay up. See, I naively thought the points deduction would get the players a bit passionate and playing with a bit of desire. While I couldn't see us doing a Leeds exactly, I could see a good start and the deduction cleared by the start of September. I dared to hope and that's dangerous when you're a Saints fan. It just leads to greater disappointment when your hopes aren't reciprocated on the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glkdcdes Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 Useless,pathetic,gutless,talentless embarrassing w a n k e r s (barring Davis) i think that describes a body of our so called supporters............ you know who you are. Stop panicking. Have faith, we are very lucky we still have a team to support. Accept we will do well to end our season any where near mid table. Stop thinking we just have to turn up to win..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 We have enough with the players we have to be performing much better than this. Yes we need a centre back or two etc but the team selection and tactics are the major reason for our total lack of controled football. At least under Portaloo we played good football but couldn't afford the probably a couple of players including centre back. Currently our football is none existant with several new players. It's largely down to no organisation, poor team selection, and no tactics at all. .........Management ! I dont understand why no substitutes were used to try change the game. Last Saturday substitutes were used after we had scored I know they were warming up but surely the match had changed so the tactics should have changed as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 Its all to do with Pardew not having enough time to get the players ready for the season. We needed him in place at the start of pre-season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exit2 Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 revised ambition - just hope we stay up. That was my stance from before the league started. We need to bed down and aim for 5th from bottom. Just spoken to a mate who is just leaving Swindon and hes says it was really really bad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Mikie Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 Just back from the game. My first this season and what a disgrace! The last game I went to was Palace at home last season and the difference is frigtening. Mr Pardew has his work cut out now! The midfield was non existant and the game was pretty much played with a long ball from the back for to either Mellis or Lambert. Mellis looks a good prospect, unfortunately Town were all over him like a rash! We did not look remotely like scoring and yet again Kelvin saved our necks on a number of occasions.......... Another bad day at the office!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 (edited) i think that describes a body of our so called supporters............ you know who you are. Stop panicking. Have faith, we are very lucky we still have a team to support. Accept we will do well to end our season any where near mid table. Stop thinking we just have to turn up to win..... With what we have seen so far there seems little chance of us winning loads of matches I always accepted that we would not be promoted this season but I did not think there was the possibility that we would not be relegated. We are still 10 points behind other teams in the League how long is it going to take to get out of the relegation zone Edited 18 August, 2009 by John B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjphilsaint Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 oh i will, i know it'll take time...but it still doesn't feel great to still be loosing, in a league lower Patience is a virtue, but boy does this club wear it thin. ... no i mean we shall be playing kettering in time... (sadly it wasnt an optimistic post!!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackedoff Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 Disappointing. Need to ship out a lot more of last season's dross. My messages on here have been consistent on that. Time to start naming and shaming. James, Lancashire, Thomas, Lallana, Wotton, Schneiderlin - not good enough. Get out of my kitchen. Spot on with those names,if that lot continue to play we will go through the bottom of this league quicker than a vindaloo through a baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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derry Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 No shape, No width, Wotton in midfield, Lallana doing his own thing, Davis saved us again, another corner nobody went for. No substitutions until far too late, one up front, no width, no wonder we didn't perform. Get back to basics, proper shape, play the players in their proper positions or leave them out. Paterson wide right, Lallana never stays wide left so no width, three central midfielders FFS and we were second best, murdered down the touchlines again. The bloody problem is that we need wide players to be available to the midfielders to spread the play, stop the opponents wide, get down the line and get loads of crosses in to the strikers. Until we get proper wide players, Holmes, Gobern, or Mills (when fit) on the left. Thompson maybe Gillett on the right. Hammond and Schneiderlin in the centre. Get in a proper centre back, put Lallana, Lancashire, etc back in the reserves to learn how to play. We have no pace, are ponderous, pedestrian and undisciplined in defence. I'm prepared to give Pardew a chance but he has to start demonstrating he is making a difference because it is the same width-less crap we have watched in the past. Football is all about teamwork and players complementing each other together with proper balance none of which applies to the team at present. If it hadn't been for Davis again we would have been hammered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 Oh come on FF.......you can't carry on blaming Lowe for everything. He's history just like the others who got us into a big mess. I notice Tony 'you're getting your club back' Lynam is conspicuous by his absensce....if you are reading this board, thanks for costing us pre-season and making sure we start on the back foot with your Walter Mitty 15 minutes of fame. Pardew has to start earning his money....slagging the players off is not going to work. And this is no longer a 'young side'...only Lallana, James, Lancashire and Paterson were from our Academy. I am, already, starting to get worried we have a terrible, terrible manager. Hopefully very, very wrong but why play Wotton, bring Rasiak on in added time, make no subs until way too late and generally play awful tactics.....no way is Lallana a RM/LM: play him in the hole for goodness sake! wash saint - I wasn't looking to start another Lowe war but you can't over ride 5 years of neglect in a month. I am concerned at AP's start - I went to Huddersfield and was shocked at our ineptitude but like it or not we have got to give the guy a chance. He talks well but I agree he has already made some strange team selections and tactical decisions but we gotta keep our nerve here. Avoiding relegation is our goal. D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 Hard as it is to take, Pardew must be given some time to turn this around. We know the players are not that good, HE has to find out, assess what needs to be done and fix it. Whatever happened at Charlton is irrelevant. It's not Pardew's fault he wasn't employed until the close season was over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 No shape, No width, Wotton in midfield, Lallana doing his own thing, Davis saved us again, another corner nobody went for. No substitutions until far too late, one up front, no width, no wonder we didn't perform. Get back to basics, proper shape, play the players in their proper positions or leave them out. Paterson wide right, Lallana never stays wide left so no width, three central midfielders FFS and we were second best, murdered down the touchlines again. The bloody problem is that we need wide players to be available to the midfielders to spread the play, stop the opponents wide, get down the line and get loads of crosses in to the strikers. Until we get proper wide players, Holmes, Gobern, or Mills (when fit) on the left. Thompson maybe Gillett on the right. Hammond and Schneiderlin in the centre. Get in a proper centre back, put Lallana, Lancashire, etc back in the reserves to learn how to play. We have no pace, are ponderous, pedestrian and undisciplined in defence. I'm prepared to give Pardew a chance but he has to start demonstrating he is making a difference because it is the same width-less crap we have watched in the past. Football is all about teamwork and players complementing each other together with proper balance none of which applies to the team at present. If it hadn't been for Davis again we would have been hammered. Other than that though it was ok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 It is very disappointing - we need a lot of changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 No shape, No width, Wotton in midfield, Lallana doing his own thing, Davis saved us again, another corner nobody went for. No substitutions until far too late, one up front, no width, no wonder we didn't perform. Get back to basics, proper shape, play the players in their proper positions or leave them out. Paterson wide right, Lallana never stays wide left so no width, three central midfielders FFS and we were second best, murdered down the touchlines again. The bloody problem is that we need wide players to be available to the midfielders to spread the play, stop the opponents wide, get down the line and get loads of crosses in to the strikers. Until we get proper wide players, Holmes, Gobern, or Mills (when fit) on the left. Thompson maybe Gillett on the right. Hammond and Schneiderlin in the centre. Get in a proper centre back, put Lallana, Lancashire, etc back in the reserves to learn how to play. We have no pace, are ponderous, pedestrian and undisciplined in defence. I'm prepared to give Pardew a chance but he has to start demonstrating he is making a difference because it is the same width-less crap we have watched in the past. Football is all about teamwork and players complementing each other together with proper balance none of which applies to the team at present. If it hadn't been for Davis again we would have been hammered. All seems completely at odds with that first training session Pilchards witnessed where Pardew was drilling positional awareness and discipline into the players from day 1.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 wash saint - I wasn't looking to start another Lowe war but you can't over ride 5 years of neglect in a month. I am concerned at AP's start - I went to Huddersfield and was shocked at our ineptitude but like it or not we have got to give the guy a chance. He talks well but I agree he has already made some strange team selections and tactical decisions but we gotta keep our nerve here. Avoiding relegation is our goal. D Apart from your Lowe and Pinnacle Phobias I agree with what you are saying. The team balance as well as the personnel is not correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Strover Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 Well I've just got back from the game (look at where I live). Firstly Southampton Football Club must give free away tickets to all the fans that travelled to the game tonight because they deserved it. They were mostly sat in stunned silence. We can all go on about inexperience, gelling as a team, giving it time but none of thoes excuse the players who hoof the ball vertical in the air under no real pressure. They are professional after all. Pardew. Well I'm not calling for his head but I'd love him to come on the OS tomorrow and explain what the tactics were because I'm ****ed if I could work them out. Kelvin Man of the Match - put under more pressure by our back four than their front two - why do they constantly pass the ball back to him when there is no need. There are at the very least four players on the pitch tonight who shouldn't even start on the bench. Two new players before the deadline means we are in a relegation fight this season. Make no mistake we are a really, really poor team. My Swindon Town supporting mates who saw me after the game were shocked at the poor standard of our players. I'm not exaggarating but the Sunday morning team I help run pass it along the deck more than Saints. Tonight I am embarassed to be a Saints fan and I feel really, really sorry for those fans that came from Hampshire tonight and dejectedly trudged back to their cars in Walcot alongside me. I only had another fifteen minutes walk to get home. You are the true heroes of Southampton Football Club and not one of you deserves that dross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 "Southampton put a bit of pressure on and the end but other than that it was a quiet night. Quote from Swindon's goalie. Utterly unacceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkenSaint Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 First of all AP needs to sort out his tactics out, use the wings put crosses into the box and we'll get goals there is no daught in that. He needs to stop playing lallana (sad to say) he isnt a winger and i really cant see him fitting into a 442 formation. Ok looks like we got Hammond for sat to replace the useless wotton but we really need a new right mid with pace and able to beat defenders. Down the left he should play mills or holmes, even goborn wouldnt be a bad idea with his pace. He should also play a passing game, we played the passing game ok last season but because we didnt use the wings we didnt get the chances, too many ppl tell me we play too many long balls, this really doesnt suit us. It's all simple football which i dont understand he isnt doing...oh and 2 new CB's would be nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 AP inherited a mess left by 5 years of mismanagement by Lowe. We can't expect him to sort that out in 4 weeks. Those extra 4 weeks wasted by Pinnacle's "never gonna happen" bid are now coming home to roost. Perhaps people's frustrations should be aimed at Pinnacle and the people that gave them oxygen rather than Pinnacle. Just a - no doubt unpopular - thought. Give Pardew a chance - he is far from being the biggest culprit here. The trouble is the team selection is unbalanced and the likes of Wotton and Lallana are the problem not the solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Strover Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 That was my stance from before the league started. We need to bed down and aim for 5th from bottom. Just spoken to a mate who is just leaving Swindon and hes says it was really really bad! Really, really bad is being generous. My wife went along and she is not a Swindon fan nor a Saints fan and was shocked we paid £45 to watch a game of that standard. Swindon had more about them but weren't that good, they just worked hard, and Saints didn't look too bothered was her view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedWillie Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 Panic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkadill Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 Seems like my post today may be taken more seriously now! - Pardrew sacked as Saints just escape relegation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docker Walker6 Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 What is the issue with Gillett? FFS he must start on Saturday!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaford Saint Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 What is the issue with Gillett? FFS he must start on Saturday!!! I have been thinking the same thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackedoff Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 Will not sustain 20K home crowds at this rate , same old sh1te rebranded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 Well I've just got back from the game (look at where I live). Firstly Southampton Football Club must give free away tickets to all the fans that travelled to the game tonight because they deserved it. They were mostly sat in stunned silence. We can all go on about inexperience, gelling as a team, giving it time but none of thoes excuse the players who hoof the ball vertical in the air under no real pressure. They are professional after all. Pardew. Well I'm not calling for his head but I'd love him to come on the OS tomorrow and explain what the tactics were because I'm ****ed if I could work them out. Kelvin Man of the Match - put under more pressure by our back four than their front two - why do they constantly pass the ball back to him when there is no need. There are at the very least four players on the pitch tonight who shouldn't even start on the bench. Two new players before the deadline means we are in a relegation fight this season. Make no mistake we are a really, really poor team. My Swindon Town supporting mates who saw me after the game were shocked at the poor standard of our players. I'm not exaggarating but the Sunday morning team I help run pass it along the deck more than Saints. Tonight I am embarassed to be a Saints fan and I feel really, really sorry for those fans that came from Hampshire tonight and dejectedly trudged back to their cars in Walcot alongside me. I only had another fifteen minutes walk to get home. You are the true heroes of Southampton Football Club and not one of you deserves that dross. Thanks for that - I went to Huddersfield on Saturday and was shocked by what I saw. Big problems and at present AP seems a bit clueless. We have to give him time however. OMG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musesaint Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 I just watched that humiliation and agree 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dark Sotonic Mills Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 Just got back from the match. Team selection wasn't popular with the crowd, especially Wotton and Lancashire, the team as a whole had the penetration of a eunuch's d*ck. Woeful display made worse by Lambert missing a sitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musesaint Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 What is the issue with Gillett? FFS he must start on Saturday!!! He's 100% better than the shi*te I saw tonight Has he sha*ged Mrs Pardew? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrZuess1979 the 2nd Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 Just got back from the match. Team selection wasn't popular with the crowd, especially Wotton and Lancashire, the team as a whole had the penetration of a eunuch's d*ck. Woeful display made worse by Lambert missing a sitter. Only £ucking Saints could turn a 20+ goal striker crap:!: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 What is the issue with Gillett? The burdon of being sponsored by us has probably got to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corsacar saint Posted 18 August, 2009 Share Posted 18 August, 2009 This is total garbage, we should not be losing to the likes of Swindon. We basically have a gutless team who when they go behind have very little fight to get back in the game. [ We also have more than one player who think they are far better than they really are]. We need leaders and fighters on the pitch, not spineless fancy dans. I am very dejected by the two away performances,and am certainly not looking forward to the Brentford game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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