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Ponty

Ponty

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why do they always do a close up in Hamiltons dad.....every bloody race/qualifier/practice/tyre change/pit stop/sneeze..

 

who the feck cares?

 

Anthony Hamilton's new found celebrity status is just another thing to hold against Lewis in many peoples' opinions.

 

Not a bad qualifying session this race, particularly after the disappointment of Renault's performance at Valencia. There's an opportunity to reduce the gap to Toyota this week. Whether we make the most of it is another thing altogether.

Arizona

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Just back from qualy. My first Grand Prix event and as a spectacle it was pretty impressive. There is something about Spa I just love. A certain character to the place that you just don't get on TV. The hill going up Eau Rouge is just imense. You just don't get an idea of how steep it is from TV either. I'll stick some photos up in a bit.

saintkiptanui

saintkiptanui

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Anthony Hamilton's new found celebrity status is just another thing to hold against Lewis in many peoples' opinions.

 

Not a bad qualifying session this race, particularly after the disappointment of Renault's performance at Valencia. There's an opportunity to reduce the gap to Toyota this week. Whether we make the most of it is another thing altogether.

I' m soo soo tired ponty, just stop it we're all so tired
saintkiptanui

saintkiptanui

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Just back from qualy. My first Grand Prix event and as a spectacle it was pretty impressive. There is something about Spa I just love. A certain character to the place that you just don't get on TV. The hill going up Eau Rouge is just imense. You just don't get an idea of how steep it is from TV either. I'll stick some photos up in a bit.
Don't bother mate, we can all imagine mmmm hills.
saintkiptanui

saintkiptanui

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why do they always do a close up in Hamiltons dad.....every bloody race/qualifier/practice/tyre change/pit stop/sneeze..

 

who the feck cares?

He is the whitest blackman I've ever seen, he might even be a tad red indian?
St Landrew

St Landrew

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Lap 5 and Brundle started doing a sum up, and I was off my seat to put the kettle on. You can spot these things from a mile away. Raikkonen appears to have remembered he's in a F1 Grand Prix championship.

Colinjb

Colinjb

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Should be an ideal result for Lewis if things stay as they are. Raikkonen wins, him second, massa third. Ferrari still won't know who to throw their weight behind and Lewis extends his championship lead by another 2 points. Giving him nearly a race in hand should things go badly.

Thedelldays

Thedelldays

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The rain is starting to come down now. No point coming in for rain tyres (only three laps left). Great stuff!

brilliant ending....just tip toeing over the lines...feel sorry for raikkonen though...

Colinjb

Colinjb

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OH! MY GOD!! Both Kimi and Lewis spinning, Massa is now back in the mix. Some randoms pitting for Inters. This is phenominals, KIMI HAS BINNED IT!!!

St Landrew

St Landrew

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Spa is one of the Grand Prixs I do love to watch because it produces spectacular results. Also shows once again that Kimi is not the complete driver IMO. Hamilton just blew him away once the conditions became less than perfect.

Flyer

Flyer

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Ferrari screwed up, theyd have won the race had they pitted Massa.

 

25 secs for a stop but the last lap was 45 secs slower than normal.

Um Bongo

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**** sake, they are saying Lewis might be under investigation!

 

For those who don't know, Lewis was forced wide at the chicane, meaning he took the escape route. He then let Kimmi go back into the lead, then overtook him at the first corner.

Colinjb

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**** sake, they are saying Lewis might be under investigation!

 

For those who don't know, Lewis was forced wide at the chicane, meaning he took the escape route. He then let Kimmi go back into the lead, then overtook him at the first corner.

 

They argument is I believe that Lewis still had better momentum out of the corner. Thus not really surrendering his advantage when he allowed Kimi to overtake back on the straight. However, it just looked to me like the Ferarri had crap traction and that the McLaren simply outperformed Kimi on the way into la Source.

Um Bongo

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They argument is I believe that Lewis still had better momentum out of the corner. Thus not really surrendering his advantage when he allowed Kimi to overtake back on the straight. However, it just looked to me like the Ferarri had crap traction and that the McLaren simply outperformed Kimi on the way into la Source.

 

Not sure they can argue that becuase Hamilton let Kimi go first over the line, thus, by defenition, letting him retake the lead?

St Landrew

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**** sake, they are saying Lewis might be under investigation!

 

For those who don't know, Lewis was forced wide at the chicane, meaning he took the escape route. He then let Kimmi go back into the lead, then overtook him at the first corner.

 

I listened closely to what Ron Dennis was saying. He was making it very clear that during the particular incident, his team was trying to keep Hamilton very much on the correct rule side of the racing. Even so, it's possible the stewards could rule that Hamilton got an unfair advantage by having better momentum into the corner where he passed Raikonnen for the decisive time. But then Raikonnen would gain no advantage from that because he drove the thing into the wall in any case. If the stewards penalise Hamilton in any way, it'll only harden people's thoughts that Ferrari have a special relationship with the F1 rule makers.

 

What's the odds the stewards don't have a say in this result..? ;)

Evil Monkey

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Surely though, by slowing down and relinquishing the lead, Hamilton's advantage is lost. Kimi is then going faster than Lewis, and should have been able to kick on and make his position count. How long before we hear any more on this, anyone know?

JustMike

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I listened closely to what Ron Dennis was saying. He was making it very clear that during the particular incident, his team was trying to keep Hamilton very much on the correct rule side of the racing. Even so, it's possible the stewards could rule that Hamilton got an unfair advantage by having better momentum into the corner where he passed Raikonnen for the decisive time. But then Raikonnen would gain no advantage from that because he drove the thing into the wall in any case. If the stewards penalise Hamilton in any way, it'll only harden people's thoughts that Ferrari have a special relationship with the F1 rule makers.

 

What's the odds the stewards don't have a say in this result..? ;)

 

i said this 2 weeks ago after massa was let off for the pit lane thing. If that had been any other driver it would have been a drive through penalty

Sheaf Saint

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Anybody could see that Hamilton slowed down to allow Kimi to retake the lead, hence he couldn't possibly carry any additional momentum down the pit straight. He then came round the back of Kimi's car and overtook him on the opposite side.

 

If the FIA rule this one in Ferrari's favour and give the race to Massa, I swear I will never watch F1 ever again. This bias towards Ferrari is cringeworthy.

Um Bongo

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What a ****ing joke.

 

given 3rd place.

 

How ****ing bent can you get?????

 

Ferrari will always rule the sport which ****s like those in charge.

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Guest Hacienda

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As soon as it happened my missus said that it was the excuse needed to hammer McLaren.

DG

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Surprise ****ing surprise. Why not just be done with it and get rid on all non-Ferrari cars.

 

Give up with F1.

Um Bongo

Um Bongo

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So what exactly was the penalty given for in the end?

 

25 second time penalty.

 

Where the **** did they get 25 seconds from??????

 

For gaining an advantage by cuttung the corner.

Flyer

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Im done with F1 unless this is revered by Monza, it even goes against their own rules.

 

They are not even trying to hide fixing the championship for Fiarrari.

St Landrew

St Landrew

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...Even so, it's possible the stewards could rule that Hamilton got an unfair advantage by having better momentum into the corner where he passed Raikonnen for the decisive time. But then Raikonnen would gain no advantage from that because he drove the thing into the wall in any case. If the stewards penalise Hamilton in any way, it'll only harden people's thoughts that Ferrari have a special relationship with the F1 rule makers.

 

What's the odds the stewards don't have a say in this result..? ;)

 

I take no pleasure from being right here. I was almost confident the race stewards would somehow manipulate the outcome to favour Ferrari. If Raikonnen had kept his car on the track, there would have been very little doubt, the race would have been handed to him. As usual, the cards are stacked. The dice are loaded. The fix is in.

 

How can you take a championship seriously when it is patently so sided in favour of Ferrari..? And I would be as outraged if it were another driver.

 

I rest my case..!

 

The weird thing is... today's race was an excellent advert for F1. Invariably, it's as boring as boring gets, and is basically [for me] a filler in between MotoGP races. Well it's been completely ruined.

 

Could be time the other teams took a stand.

Ponty

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Absolutely gobsmacked. No one could accuse me of being Hamilton's biggest fan but that decision is completely unfathomable. I'd like to know where the mystery 25 seconds came from too (If they'd made it 30 we'd have got a podium!). I expect I'll get more details tomorrow but for now I'm just amazed. Lewis drove brilliantly in those last couple of laps and thoroughly deserved the victory. Win or lose the championship I hope it's not decided by the 4 points reversed today.

 

PS. Not many people mentioned Fernando overtaking Kubica and Bourdais on the line. Poor Vettel was already celebrating 4th when Nando nipped past. Haven't seen a finish like that for ages.

Um Bongo

Um Bongo

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Absolutely gobsmacked. No one could accuse me of being Hamilton's biggest fan but that decision is completely unfathomable. I'd like to know where the mystery 25 seconds came from too (If they'd made it 30 we'd have got a podium!). I expect I'll get more details tomorrow but for now I'm just amazed. Lewis drove brilliantly in those last couple of laps and thoroughly deserved the victory. Win or lose the championship I hope it's not decided by the 4 points reversed today.

 

PS. Not many people mentioned Fernando overtaking Kubica and Bourdais on the line. Poor Vettel was already celebrating 4th when Nando nipped past. Haven't seen a finish like that for ages.

 

I have to say that made me laugh. He came from Nowhere, and kinda pleased for him. Not much gone for him this season, so was nice to see him grab 4th.

 

I would love to see McClaren get a 1-2 next week at Monza, in the boringest race ever, just to **** the FIA off even more.

Sheaf Saint

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Utter, utter b0ll0cks. The FIA are a fvcking joke. Do they really take every F1 fan for that stupid - it's such an obvious fix.

 

I ask you, how can Hamilton have possibly gained an advantage from the extra momentum when he slowed down enough to come round the back of Raikonnen's car and overtake him on the opposite side?

 

I'm not even Hamilton's biggest fan, but I have total sympathy for him in this situation and I want to see him win the title just to say a big "fvck you" to the FIA.

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