Huddersfield 3-1 Saints - Post Match Reaction

[Katalinic]

Disappointing but not surprising.

 

Around 5 new faces needed - 2 x huge CB's, 1 x Tough midfielder, 1 x winger, 1 x striker.

 

Mental and physical strength needed in this division - we have neither in too many of these players.

 

Personally I would ship out Perry, Wotton, Rasiak, Saga, Lancashire, Pulis and Molyneux before the transfer window ends. Some are not good enough others don't want to be here.

 

Question marks over James (as a midfielder), Thomson (never seen him have an impact), Spiderman (not cut out for Div 1 football?) at this level. I still think Thomas is mentally suspect also.

 

Some of these need to be replaced with experienced Championship players with a bit of muscle. A hell of a lot to do in the next couple of weeks - from now until then is effectively the pre-season we never had.

[Thedelldays]

so..all those who are slitting their wrists over this defeat..

 

did you all predict a win..?

anyone..?

[Rod Le Shearer]

so..all those who are slitting their wrists over this defeat..

 

did you all predict a win..?

 

I think the moaning has more to do with the way we lost,dont you ?

 

there seems to be more work ahead of us than I had Imagined,thats for sure.to be totally battered by Huddersfield is not what i expected,TBF.

 

still,if someone had offered me 0ne point from our two first games,I`d probably taken it. tough opposition n`all.

[Thedelldays]

I think the moaning has more to do with the way we lost,dont you ?

 

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as has been said to me many many times...

 

how can you tell from the radio...:smt081

[saintpat]

Was anyone really expecting much more at present?

Pardew has had little time to prepare and he hasn't brought in the number of players he wanted. This was always going to be a difficult few months given everything that happened over the summer, I have always felt that mid-table this year is the best we can expect. Perhaps this result will help make the board realise they have to act on Pardews wishes quicker than they have been doing.

 

Pardew obviously doesn't rate Gillet, so he needs at least one if not 2 central mids within a week, along with one or two central defenders.

My only concern at present is the long ball- which is way over-used- but then if I thought my best central midfielder was Wooton- then I'd try and and ignore the midfield as much as possible to!!!

[Rod Le Shearer]

as has been said to me many many times...

 

how can you tell from the radio...:smt081

 

You dont have to be a genious to figure it out this time,unlike some of your ridicolous comments after other matches.

[Thedelldays]

You dont have to be a genious to figure it out this time,unlike some of your ridicolous comments after other matches.

ridiculous...like we will be lcky to stay up...which things like that have been said..

 

but hey, if most agree then it is fine to form an opinion from the radio..

 

if it is just me and alpine with a few others, then we must be skates

[ManorHouseSaint]

I was at the game and were an absolute disgrace. As bad, if not worse than some of the performances last year. Not even in it from the kick off. Pardew's tactics were non descript. Players lacked; drive, determination, passion, leadership, skills, talent, the ability to keep the ball more than 2 passes and not give it straight to the opposition. Wotton isn't even a footballer. He just wafts around like a bad smell. Pardew's substitutions were appalling. There was not one positive from today, not one. He we havwn't forward at all according to that game. You may say we need more time, but if you had seen that performance you feel very similarly. Truely, truely awful.

[Mr Saints]

We have a great owner and a good manager, something we didn't have last season.

 

Now I think everyone realises it is what is on the pitch that isn't good enough and hasn't been for a few years.

 

Our players are okay when we are 1 nil up at home and all is going well, but away from home we have no bottle when it gets tough.

[kpturner]

I was at the game and were an absolute disgrace. As bad, if not worse than some of the performances last year. Not even in it from the kick off. Pardew's tactics were non descript. Players lacked; drive, determination, passion, leadership, skills, talent, the ability to keep the ball more than 2 passes and not give it straight to the opposition. Wotton isn't even a footballer. He just wafts around like a bad smell. Pardew's substitutions were appalling. There was not one positive from today, not one. He we havwn't forward at all according to that game. You may say we need more time, but if you had seen that performance you feel very similarly. Truely, truely awful.

Do you think we were unlucky?

[hughieslastminutegoal]

I was at the game and were an absolute disgrace. As bad, if not worse than some of the performances last year. Not even in it from the kick off. Pardew's tactics were non descript. Players lacked; drive, determination, passion, leadership, skills, talent, the ability to keep the ball more than 2 passes and not give it straight to the opposition. Wotton isn't even a footballer. He just wafts around like a bad smell. Pardew's substitutions were appalling. There was not one positive from today, not one. He we havwn't forward at all according to that game. You may say we need more time, but if you had seen that performance you feel very similarly. Truely, truely awful.

 

It's ok, the Academy produces a conveyor belt of quality players. We'll be fine.

[kpturner]

It's ok, the Academy produces a conveyor belt of quality players. We'll be fine.

Or, as Master Bates would say, a convey about.

[ManorHouseSaint]

I'm guessing that was sarcastic... Luck doesn't come into it when you are that appalling... What's more disturbing is that Pardew doesn't see how bad Wotton really is. I hope this was a one off, because if not, when the Town fans started singing "going down" it could become a very harsh reality sooner rather than later...Pardew has a LOT of work to do...

[kpturner]

I'm guessing that was sarcastic...

I am guessing it was ;-)

[SP Saint]

It is very early days but two things worry me.

 

1) The pattern of home draw, away defeat is all too familiar.

 

2) If we get off to a poor start then better players will not want to come to us. The money will not be enough.

 

We've played two league matches and a cup match so far. 1 win, 1 draw and 1 loss.

 

Forgive me if I don't join you in a suicide pact just yet.

 

[Thedelldays]

We've played two league matches and a cup match so far. 1 win, 1 draw and 1 loss.

 

Forgive me if I don't join you in a suicide pact just yet.

 

indeed

 

new owner, new board, new players, new manager,...same crap on here

[kpturner]

Forgive me if I don't join you in a suicide pact just yet.

See you after Brentford then :-)

[WATERSIDEIFASAINT]

If we don't get at least 2 wins from Swindon,Brentford and Stockport then we have got serious serious problems this season as none of those sides are likely to challenge near the top.

 

Huddersfield could challenge for an automatic promotion spot so todays result is not too unsurprising.Even with our current team without additions we should be able to beat Swindon and Stockport who are 2 poor sides in this division.

 

If we can't I think there will be 6 or 7 signings before the transfer window as AP etc will decide none of our previous squad are good enough and there would then be the possibility of releagtion this season if we can't win those sort of games so major changes would be needed.

 

Not going to panick on this result but the next 3 will be very telling.

[SouthportSaint]

Just back from the game. Completely outplayed for 90 minutes but don't think there was any lack of effort, just that they seemed to have better players all over the pitch. Felt sorry for the back four who had no protection (a big centre-half would not have made much difference today) and the Lambert / Rasiak combination did not work - just encouraged us to miss out the midfield with long 'passes' forward.

 

Only bright spots were the goal (power in a header that brought back memories of James Beattie and even Ron Davies), the save of the season from Davis (there will not be a better one before next May) and Mellis looked to have a bit of pace and skill from midfield when he came on. Words like 'spineless' and 'gutless' do not apply today - we were just not good enough!

[JoeShmoe]

In a service station on way home but echo what's been said. Truly dreadful performance. Say what you like but we need to ship out about half of that team and get some stronger, more passionate players soon else its going to be relegation battle - quite simply Huddersfield were a LOT better than us and I suspect Swindon will be as well

[OfnPanad]

53 minutes (Score 1-1): Saints Subs: Morgan Schneiderlin & Lloyd James OFF - Jake Thomson and Jacob Mellis ON.

 

Was this the main reason we turned a draw into a heavy defeat?

 

(From the match)

 

Nope - those 2 tried at least. Rasiak had a COUPLE of bright moments...but was largely useless as we couldn't get the ball to him. He never used to work to get the ball so why are we expecting that now? Lambert looked good - in fact he was a league apart from everyone else out there.

 

Kelvin once again had a great match and couldn't have done any more than he did. 5*.

 

Apart from those 4, hang your heads in shame.

 

Harding and Murty were average but didn't try anything but "hoof it out of play"

 

Perry & Thomas were second to everything this afternoon which meant it turned into a Huddersfield shooting gallery - they had 6 corners in the first 25 minutes!!!

 

Wotton was a passenger. He might as well have come off, no-one would have noticed.

 

Schnederlin was bullied off the ball too easily. That said, he's the only one that even attempted to play the ball along the gound. Didn't create anything tho.

 

Lloyd James and Lallana as wingers? Don't make me laugh. Both are obviously central players and as such neither had a useful touch of the ball and it was all too easy for Huddersfield's backs to support their attacks and get crosses in. This only stopped (down 1 side at least) when Thomson came on. Lallana is NOTHING like the player he was at the end of the 2007/8 season.

 

Lambert tried hard and was rewarded with a goal. Well done sir. You will get tired if you do all the running though! However after 80 minutes it was only him & the subs that had any running in them! So much for AP's fitness regime...

 

Rasiak....looks like he would be good if he was bothered and got any sort of service.

 

Lancashire...well...mystery why he was brought on but no major ****-ups!

 

Alan Pardew...got to say that I wasn't impressed. We were clearly in trouble from the 2nd minute. Nothing was changed. And why bring Perry off for Lancashire? He's hardly going to help us chase the game is he? Saga was on the bench.

 

Oh well...fingers crossed we learn (and/or spend) quickly.

 

How far do we have to drop to be the best team on the pitch most weeks?

[ART]

Well compares identically with Jan's Young Nippers side of a year ago and the following game at Derby we beat them and then beat top club Birmingham 2-0 at St Mary's in the Cup. A year ago our style of football and effort was the envy of the whole league. So surely, one League lower, a top English manager, additional players we should have put on a good show today.

 

I'm sorry, and no one's noted this, but firstly Cortese has to learn fast that you don't make announcements of bringing in a Director of Sport to whom your manager reports to before the game. Where does that leave Pardew in the player's eyes?

 

You can't say we don't have the players. The team put out and the substitutions was abominable. I never expected a win but a draw was within our expectations.

 

I said it a month ago, but destiny seesPardew will be gone come November the way things are progressing. Let's see what he shows against Brum and against Swindon who signed a Bolton striker this week.

[Ludwig]

Well compares identically with Jan's Young Nippers side of a year ago and the following game at Derby we beat them and then beat top club Birmingham 2-0 at St Mary's in the Cup. A year ago our style of football and effort was the envy of the whole league. So surely, one League lower, a top English manager, additional players we should have put on a good show today.

 

I'm sorry, and no one's noted this, but firstly Cortese has to learn fast that you don't make announcements of bringing in a Director of Sport to whom your manager reports to before the game. Where does that leave Pardew in the player's eyes?

 

You can't say we don't have the players. The team put out and the substitutions was abominable. I never expected a win but a draw was within our expectations.

 

I said it a month ago, but destiny seesPardew will be gone come November the way things are progressing. Let's see what he shows against Brum and against Swindon who signed a Bolton striker this week.

 

I am going to randomnly bold things and make outlandish predictions based on absolute nothingness and mention Notts County and other such teams on a mere whim. Therefore we must be doomed.

[Barry the Badger]

I honestly cannot beleive the reaction from many on here. Pardew had how many weeks of pre-season? Of course we're going to be a bit dodgy.

[TopGun]

I honestly cannot beleive the reaction from many on here. Pardew had how many weeks of pre-season? Of course we're going to be a bit dodgy.

 

 

Agreed though it does seem there is much work to be done and some new blood required.

[Saint Since '51]

Just back.

 

We were very poor. We didn't control the game at any stage. We just lumped it straight up the middle to Raziac and tried to feed off the pieces. He won his share and, to be fair, tried quite hard (by his standards); but he was often muscled out of it. A total of 4 shots at goal in the whole game tells it own story. Tremendously powerful header from Lambert, but, generally, he didn't look dangerous.

 

At the other end, it was the Alamo in the first half. Could easily have conceded 4 before HT. Kelvin was outstanding. Second half goals came from uncontested headers right in front of goal and Perry getting stranded wrong side to concede penalty. We desperately need that commanding CB.

 

We looked lightweight in midfield. Mellis isn't big either, though his passing was impressively neat and accurate and he made good runs into the box. Morgan was in and out. Wotton is a lumbering oaf. Lallana and James are something and nothing - neither good wide players, dangerous midfielders, powerhouses. Just moderate, ineffectual beginners.

 

Sorry to be so depressing. It was dire.

[Lazlo78]

Agreed though it does seem there is much work to be done and some new blood required.

 

Which is why Pardews comments before the Millwall game that the season opener had come a few weeks too early for his taste might actually mean that they intend to further strengthen the squad over the coming weeks... Purely guesswork on my behalf but maybe, just maybe, Pardew is not a big liar

[Charlie Wayman]

FFS WTFIGO? I am so depressed already. WALOFW!

[gordonToo]

One of the worst performances (KD excluded) I've ever seen and unless the team is largely rebuilt another relegation fight is an inevitability. A score of at least 5-1 would not have flattered Huddersfield today. Perry is past it and Thomas no match against a mobile forward line that breaks fast. Mid-field was non-existant and seems chronically incapable of retaining any sort of possession or of providing adequate defensive cover. The team had absolutely no width worth talkng about and I don't think a single cross was made from the bye-line all game. Rasiak was, well Rasiak and Lambert clearly is used to a far higher standard of play.

[Saint Since '51]

All true

[saintbenny]

just back. just to echo the thoughts of others at the game...we were simply tosh. I dont think I have seen a worse performance from the lads in a long time...and i was at Rotherham..terrible.

 

No width, no shape, could not string a pass together. I know last year was a shambles but at least we knew how to pass and keep a football. Mr Lambert must be wondering why he joined us.

 

I aslo have to say that Wotton is by far the worst saints player in history..he brings nothing to the party apart from a lot of pointing...until he is out of the side I cant see how we can progress

 

I am truely depressed this evening...

[saintsmike25]

Lets face it, it's going to be tough to begin with.

Sometimes you will come up against a team who is better prepared and more 'up for it' which was clearly the case today. People are already saying things like Pardew will be gone! after one defeat. The fact is this season is about consolidating rather than promotion and building a team to challenge next season. If anything this game has taught Pardew that he needs another midfeilder and a centre back because Perry isn't good enough, (or fit enough) to last every game, and the thought of Lancashire as back up is worrying as no offence but he's crap.

 

But on the bright side the new owner isn't afraid to delve into his pocket and we could well see 2-3 more signings. I'm not panicing it's a long season ahead.

[badgerx16]

Due to the group I went with, was at the opposite end from the away fans, and directly behind the goal, which means I saw all three of their goals at close quarters. The penalty was soft ( at best ), and KD was unlucky - but everybody in that stand knew it was going to his left. The second was because Murty had run out from the near post to harry their player on the byline, and nobody could be @rsed to cover for him, leaving a huge hole for their player to run into unimpeded. The third was the sort of scrappy close in scramble we all know Saints will always fail to clear.

 

Without KD it could easily have been 3-0 at half time, and throughout, the impression I got, was that the midfield were as effective as the proverbial chocolate fireguard. Harding at least has pace, and Murty has commitment, but wish both could have some presence and think a bit more about distribution of the ball. Tank, to me, looked a bit short of match practice but at least he tried - I think Wotton's sole contribution for the entire match was to get booked. And my heart dropped when Ollie came on, I have no confidence in him at all, though to be fair he did make two well judged tackle backs late on.

 

Was a bit surprised that Greg played, and probably by his standards he was putting himself about, but he was far too easily contained, and the only real spark came from Lambert.

 

Highlight of the game ? The announcement on 45 minutes that "The 4th official says there will be SOME time added", when his board broke.

 

The positive slant has to be that Huddersfield are likely to be one of the play-off chasers, and so some hopefully easier opposition lie ahead.

[SouthportSaint]

One of the worst performances (KD excluded) I've ever seen and unless the team is largely rebuilt another relegation fight is an inevitability. A score of at least 5-1 would not have flattered Huddersfield today. Perry is past it and Thomas no match against a mobile forward line that breaks fast. Mid-field was non-existant and seems chronically incapable of retaining any sort of possession or of providing adequate defensive cover. The team had absolutely no width worth talkng about and I don't think a single cross was made from the bye-line all game. Rasiak was, well Rasiak and Lambert clearly is used to a far higher standard of play.

 

I agree that the mobility of the Huddersfield forwards was a big difference today and we probably need a Brett Ormerod type as a foil for Lambert. Incidentally Huddersfield did play very well today. Accurate passing and good movement that was, I thought, a better quality than many sides we met last season. Let's hope they are not typical of Div One sides.

[egreog]

just back. just to echo the thoughts of others at the game...we were simply tosh. I dont think I have seen a worse performance from the lads in a long time...and i was at Rotherham..terrible.

 

No width, no shape, could not string a pass together. I know last year was a shambles but at least we knew how to pass and keep a football. Mr Lambert must be wondering why he joined us.

 

I aslo have to say that Wotton is by far the worst saints player in history..he brings nothing to the party apart from a lot of pointing...until he is out of the side I cant see how we can progress

 

I am truely depressed this evening...

 

Its gonna be a long winter if its as depressing as this!!........luckily a lot of knee jerk pessimism involved!!

[rallyboy]

Pretty much as expected with the time Pardew has had to assemble a squad, maybe a reality check for the few who thought we were going to storm this league from a minus position.

I thought our season would be a slow burner that would take off in about two or three months, nothing has changed that opinion.

No panic.

 

....Different story if we are still playing like that in March.

[Cabrone]

Not surprised the defence leak goals - we have no midfield.

 

AP needs to get a tough no nonsense center midfielder and a wide man.

 

This is a bit radical but I wonder if it's worth bypassing the midfield altogether and having a back 5, 2 up front with a man in the hole and 2 defensive players in midfield acting as a shield (Gillet\Schneiderlin), the full backs doubling up as wingers.

 

Why attempt to put out a midfield when we don't appear to have one?

 

Maybe time for a bit of Taylor'esque hoofball till we get a midfield that can do its job.

[dubai_phil]

Well, exactly what I thought would happen in terms of result and lack of cohesion, but didn't think it would be quite as bad as it sounded on the radio.

 

We are two weeks behind the rest of the League in preparation, our pre-season work was poor in terms of fitness and coaching. We have already brought in 3 new players and are trying to implement the 3rd playing system in the past 1 season & 3 games.

 

Anyone thinking we would be top of the table by November should take a step back and realise that the whole thing will take time. Each game the youngsters are struggling first to know what the boss wants them to do and then they have these pesky opponents making it more difficult.

 

It will take time, even IF we bring in 4 new players, football is a TEAM game and it will take them time to gel. Sure we don't HAVE much but that's life.

 

Could be worse, we could be Everton fans tonight. Moyes gone the way of Gunn by next Friday anyone? No of course not, same as we are going to be playing catch up on fitness, formation, awareness and style for quite a few more weeks.

 

Stick the wrist slitting kit away, patients emerging from near terminal illness take time to regain their fitness mentally and physically, it takes a lot of work and support

[kpturner]

Due to holiday etc I haven't been able to attend any of the (non-friendly) matches yet - but how come Schneiderlin has gone from the "best player on the pitch" against Millwall to (alledgedly) useless against Huddersfield?

[70's Mike]

due to holiday etc i haven't been able to attend any of the (non-friendly) matches yet - but how come schneiderlin has gone from the "best player on the pitch" against millwall to (alledgedly) useless against huddersfield?

 

homer

[gordonToo]

Due to holiday etc I haven't been able to attend any of the (non-friendly) matches yet - but how come Schneiderlin has gone from the "best player on the pitch" against Millwall to (alledgedly) useless against Huddersfield?

 

He doesn't like being aggressively closed down, i.e. bullied.

[kpturner]

homer

Simpson?

[Wes Tender]

Just back.

 

We were very poor. We didn't control the game at any stage. We just lumped it straight up the middle to Raziac and tried to feed off the pieces. He won his share and, to be fair, tried quite hard (by his standards); but he was often muscled out of it. A total of 4 shots at goal in the whole game tells it own story. Tremendously powerful header from Lambert, but, generally, he didn't look dangerous.

 

At the other end, it was the Alamo in the first half. Could easily have conceded 4 before HT. Kelvin was outstanding. Second half goals came from uncontested headers right in front of goal and Perry getting stranded wrong side to concede penalty. We desperately need that commanding CB.

 

We looked lightweight in midfield. Mellis isn't big either, though his passing was impressively neat and accurate and he made good runs into the box. Morgan was in and out. Wotton is a lumbering oaf. Lallana and James are something and nothing - neither good wide players, dangerous midfielders, powerhouses. Just moderate, ineffectual beginners.

 

Sorry to be so depressing. It was dire.

 

This report echoes the impression I got from the Radio Solent commentary. The other thing that came across was that the strike force that would have been the envy of every other club in this division, could not function to its full potential, because they received hardly any service. Both of them might have scored some additional goals had they had a chance from spot kicks, but there were precious few of those either, so poor were we at getting into their last third.

Also, it seems that our midfield was overrun by theirs. Why do we persist with that donkey Wotton? I'm pretty sure that Gillett would at least have been snapping at the heels of their midfield players, not letting them settle.

Another thing that I noticed was how Merrington had admiration in his voice when he said that it was almost impossible for our back line to catch their forwards offside because they played along our line and then turned to break through every time, often beating us for pace. Why aren't we as cute about disciplined attack tactics?

 

When we were a half decent team having just been relegated from the Premiership, we often found that we were often frustrated at home by teams who played 5 across the middle with just a lone striker and the opposition would weather the storm by snuffing out the threats with the crowded midfield, frustrate us, then hit it over the top for their mobile forward to run onto. Perhaps we ought to play like that until we get together a team capable of dealing with this division's tougher teams. Also, it is hard to imagine why we couldn't get any width to stretch Huddersfield midfield.

Although a disappointing setback, it is probably a good thing that we got this pasting, as it ought to concentrate Pardew's mind beautifully as to where we need to strengthen and how urgently that surgery is.

As to giving away a penalty a match in this division, we cannot afford it. We need to be more disciplined in defence.

[Ash]

53 minutes (Score 1-1): Saints Subs: Morgan Schneiderlin & Lloyd James OFF - Jake Thomson and Jacob Mellis ON.

Was this the main reason we turned a draw into a heavy defeat?

Not at all, I am amazed that it stayed level for so long. We certainly didn't deserve it, Thomson and Mellis were no less effective than those they replaced.

An 18 year old in the middle is not wise, no matter how good a prospect he may be. Gillett would have done much better.

Absolute nonsense, if he is good enough, he is old enough.

One of the worst performances (KD excluded) I've ever seen and unless the team is largely rebuilt another relegation fight is an inevitability. A score of at least 5-1 would not have flattered Huddersfield today. Perry is past it and Thomas no match against a mobile forward line that breaks fast. Mid-field was non-existant and seems chronically incapable of retaining any sort of possession or of providing adequate defensive cover. The team had absolutely no width worth talkng about and I don't think a single cross was made from the bye-line all game. Rasiak was, well Rasiak and Lambert clearly is used to a far higher standard of play.

Aside from a relegation battle being inevitable I completely agree. Said to the Mrs on the way out that it was one of the worst performances I have seen, and I have been some complete ****e.

We were absolutely woeful, only Kelvin comes out with any credit. Imagine if he had gone to West Ham? What would the score have been today with Bart in goal today?

Special mentions for the centre backs, who both had an absolute shocker, Thomas in particular was all over the place. I'd love to see us sign a couple more before Tuesday, and someone to stick in the middle to boss the game and pick out a pass.

I realise it was against Huddersfield and I wasn't expecting to go there and take three points with no worries, but the manner of the the defeat was really disappointing.

P.S, Hudderfield, if they play like that every week, would be a cracking bet for automatic promotion. They were excellent today, a brilliant team effort.

[kpturner]

Both of them might have scored some additional goals had they had a chance from spot kicks, but there were precious few of those either

Were you expecting a penalty shoot-out or summat?

[70's Mike]

Simpson?

 

Spider man will only play well at home

[Wes Tender]

Were you expecting a penalty shoot-out or summat?

 

Sorry. Meant dead ball.

[St Marco]

Just back and not really much else to add that hasen't been said already.

Was just a dire performance that lacked too many people giving a ****.

 

The midfield was the main problem. Wotten and Morgan just lacked the quality needed. The wingers were just awful and created next to nothing. The strikers had feck all service so naturally created nothing and the defence was knackered after about 30mins due to midfield being a total fook up and letting people get past so easy.

 

My personel view is that Wotten and Perry have probably played a season too many. The legs have gone and the ability is no longer there. Time for those 2 to move on in my book.

 

Lallana looked the same as last year and not interested, for a creative talent he sure lacks the actual ability to do that, one of the most over hyped players i have seen at this club.

 

Where some have said it was down to tactics i totally disagree. Pardew did everything he could to get them playing and tried different things constantly. The problem was not the tactics but the players. It is not Pardew's fault if Wotten misses every tackle and passes the ball to the opponents every 5 secs. It is not his fault if the wingers could not produce nothing. The ghost of the past 2 seasons remains and it is down to attitude and ability.

If it was up to me i would get rid of Wotten,Perry,Lallana and Saga. Reason for Wotten and Perry is down to ability and Lallana and Saga is down to attitude. If those players dont want to be here then fook off and let those who do come in.

 

We need at bare minimum as i said weeks ago a new CB, a winger and a CM. Not youngsters but current players who will be consistent. If we need to pay cash then pay cash.

 

The only players who come out of this game with credit was as always Davis. But possibly also Rasiak. He tried to get involved and tried to do something (even an overhead kick...) but without any service was never going to happen.

 

This is a bigtime reality check for our new owner. With what we have we will finish mid-table at best. With at least 3-4 players (especially a quality CB) we could push for playoffs.

The league is hard and we are the new boys with the big reputation and the big stadium etc. Teams will not need much motivating to play us and every away game will be to a almost full house with fans and players up for the game.

We cannot go into those games without matching that attitude. We cannot just turn up and think "feck it" like we did today. To many players just gave up and that is what ****es me off.

 

So i hope Pardew drops some of these players especially Wotten and Lallana. In Adam's case i think time out of the first team might make him realise he is in only his 2nd season, he is a nobody and has achived fook all. That might make him change his attitude.

[Forester]

Really disappointing, but only 1 point less than I was expecting from these first two games. Millwall and Huddersfield will both be involved in the top 6 in my opinion, are settled teams with a manager having had time to develop their squad.

 

As others have said, the next 3 games offer a real opportunity to pick up points and I believe 7 out of 9 is realistic, which would leave us having minus 2 after 5. That would not be a disaster. We have to expect to be in the bottom half at least until after the Xmas period, and with the squad still being added to we need to show patience and be absolutely behind all at the club.

 

Sounds like a travelling army at Swindon so looking forward to that!

[wightman35]

It all sounds so familiar. How long does it take for the new owners and management to realise that most of our central defence and midfield would be inadequate for the Blue Square South- and take remedial action?