saint_bert Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 The scum that tortured the poor boy are splashed all over todays rags. We the tax payer, will have to foot the bill when they get out to "protect" them!! Unbelievable. I don't condone violence, could seriously make an exception for them though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 Line them up and: :smt070 :smt011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee_saint Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 Someone will get them soon enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_saints Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 Line them up and: :smt070 :smt011 F**k that. That'd be quick and not very painful. Let them suffer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 Someone will get them soon enough. Do not have much faith in that happening, too much protection both inside and out, always hope to hear news of Huntley and Carr along with many others who have committed heinous crimes being subject to similar to what they did, sadly when it comes to protecting pond life like these(even from themselves) our system seems to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 The scum that tortured the poor boy are splashed all over todays rags. We the tax payer, will have to foot the bill when they get out to "protect" them!! Unbelievable. I don't condone violence, could seriously make an exception for them though. Should of been named and shamed at the first instance then maybe they would be dead now. The scum don't deserve a life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 Hopefully they should get rough justice in prison. C*nts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_saints Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 Hopefully they should get rough justice in prison. C*nts I'm pretty sure this would be the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 Should of been named and shamed at the first instance then maybe they would be dead now. The scum don't deserve a life. according to the BBC news this morning, the reason it's taken 2 years is because they've been re-housing the other 4 kids they have. Quite why it's taken 2 years to do this, is beyond me. Surely it's just: social services - "you have 4 more kids??? - F*** - give them here, NOW". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 out in 3 years according to sky!! wtf???? http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Baby-P-Tracey-Connelly-The-Mother-Of-Baby-Peter-May-Get-A-New-Identity-After-She-Is-Free/Article/200908215358277?f=rss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_saints Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 out in 3 years according to sky!! wtf???? http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Baby-P-Tracey-Connelly-The-Mother-Of-Baby-Peter-May-Get-A-New-Identity-After-She-Is-Free/Article/200908215358277?f=rss Bl00dy right to. It sends a strong message out there to those that want to torture and kill children that, well- you may aswell do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 This is our magnificent legal sytem at work here - it is reverred around the world as one of the fairest systems in place. It takes hundreds of hours and costs millions of taxpayer pounds to administer - most of it going to politically correct lawyers and judges who are so out of touch with reality it is untrue. A 7.62mm round to the head costs about 13p and can be dispenced in about 0.13 seconds over a range of 10 yards. I know which system I prefer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 The bulgar situation was pathetic too. John Venables and (forgotten his name) are living in another country with probably a new family of there own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jillyanne Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 The bulgar situation was pathetic too. John Venables and (forgotten his name) are living in another country with probably a new family of there own. Absolutely. Robert Thompson (I think) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaford Saint Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 Do not have much faith in that happening, too much protection both inside and out, always hope to hear news of Huntley and Carr along with many others who have committed heinous crimes being subject to similar to what they did, sadly when it comes to protecting pond life like these(even from themselves) our system seems to work. Maxine Carr is badly portrayed by the media. I was pleased for her that a complete stranger recognised the situation Maxine was in and left her a bungalow in her will. Huntley is evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 Maxine Carr is badly portrayed by the media. I was pleased for her that a complete stranger recognised the situation Maxine was in and left her a bungalow in her will. Huntley is evil. Are you serious ??? Maxine Carr was found guilty of assisting someone in attempting to cover up the murder of two little girls, just a couple of facts about this individual that you are pleased had a windfall She agreed to tell police she was having a bath inside the house while he spoke to the girls, giving him an alibi thus prolonging the pain of those girls families Carr only cut herself off from Huntley after months in Holloway Prison listening to shouts of 'nonce' and 'Myra Hindley Mark Two.' The judge told her: 'Your selfish concern for yourself and for Huntley led you all too readily to lie' Carr was later to say how the children thought she was 'cool' and teachers were to tell how she confused her friendship towards pupils with her role in her job. If she did not allow herself to be thought of in that way by kids, maybe, just maybe those girls would be alive today. You are fckin cuckoo if you think she is a victim of the media, she is a c unt of the highest order and, if true, she indirectly gained that property through commiting a crime so the property should be siezed and sold with the proceeds given to the family of those girls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jillyanne Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 Are you serious ??? Maxine Carr was found guilty of assisting someone in attempting to cover up the murder of two little girls, just a couple of facts about this individual that you are pleased had a windfall She agreed to tell police she was having a bath inside the house while he spoke to the girls, giving him an alibi thus prolonging the pain of those girls families Carr only cut herself off from Huntley after months in Holloway Prison listening to shouts of 'nonce' and 'Myra Hindley Mark Two.' The judge told her: 'Your selfish concern for yourself and for Huntley led you all too readily to lie' Carr was later to say how the children thought she was 'cool' and teachers were to tell how she confused her friendship towards pupils with her role in her job. If she did not allow herself to be thought of in that way by kids, maybe, just maybe those girls would be alive today. You are fckin cuckoo if you think she is a victim of the media, she is a c unt of the highest order and, if true, she indirectly gained that property through commiting a crime so the property should be siezed and sold with the proceeds given to the family of those girls I knew someone would come back with this response and I for one completely agree with you, well said sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaford Saint Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 Are you serious ??? Maxine Carr was found guilty of assisting someone in attempting to cover up the murder of two little girls, just a couple of facts about this individual that you are pleased had a windfall She agreed to tell police she was having a bath inside the house while he spoke to the girls, giving him an alibi thus prolonging the pain of those girls families Carr only cut herself off from Huntley after months in Holloway Prison listening to shouts of 'nonce' and 'Myra Hindley Mark Two.' The judge told her: 'Your selfish concern for yourself and for Huntley led you all too readily to lie' Carr was later to say how the children thought she was 'cool' and teachers were to tell how she confused her friendship towards pupils with her role in her job. If she did not allow herself to be thought of in that way by kids, maybe, just maybe those girls would be alive today. You are fckin cuckoo if you think she is a victim of the media, she is a c unt of the highest order and, if true, she indirectly gained that property through commiting a crime so the property should be siezed and sold with the proceeds given to the family of those girls I will have to read up on this and I am not sure where to read ....I think the lady who left her the bungalow recognised something of the circumstances she herself had been in. I don't think its as clear cut in Maxine Carr's case as it is with this mother. I don't think Carr believed that Huntley had murdered the girls when asked to provide the alibi and that's why she lied. I know in court she realised what a monster he actually was - I think she cut him off there. She was I believe close to one of the girls. She was guilty, no doubt about that but I do believe it was unwittingly. I remain of the view that she has been vilified by the media, I am not a cuckoo, but I don't believe everything I read as news when often it is opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaford Saint Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 Its off topic but I found this about Carr Extracts from Carr's questioning by police Officer: "So who was the last person to speak to Holly and Jessica?" Carr: "Ian I think." Officer: "Who's got access to the hanger?" Carr: "Ian." Officer: "Whose fingerprints are on the bag?" Carr: "Ian." Officer: "Who lived near Wangford?" Carr: "Ian." Officer: "Who goes to Lakenheath spotting aeroplanes?" Carr: "He hasn't been there in ages." Officer: "Who had a false alibi?" Carr: "Ian." Officer: "Who had his house cleaned by Maxine?" Carr: "He didn't have his house cleaned by Maxine." Officer: "He did." Carr: "It's my flaming house!" Officer: "Is it? It's the caretaker's cottage." Carr: "It's my home." Officer: "Mmmm hmmm." Carr: "I'm the housewife, I'm the cleaner, if I'm not allowed to clean my own house it's a bit bad. Do you think I'd get down on my hands and knees and scrub something that I knew that something had happened?" Officer: "Well, would you?" Carr: "No I bloody wouldn't! I ain't got nothing to do with this at all and he ain't got owt either!" Officer: "Maxine you're wearing blinkers." Carr: "I'm not wearing blinkers." Officer: "You are." Carr: "I'm not wearing blinkers, he wouldn't do anything like this." I don't think the penny dropped until she got to court..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 The scum that tortured the poor boy are splashed all over todays rags. We the tax payer, will have to foot the bill when they get out to "protect" them!! Unbelievable. I don't condone violence, could seriously make an exception for them though. Bit of a Daily Mail thing to say IMO. What they did was horrific and I can't believe anyone is even remotely interested in the costs of the trial, which must add up to all of 3p per tax payer. Agree they should be shot though. There are situations where the death penatly is applicable. In certain murder and rape cases it fits the bill and this is one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 Do not have much faith in that happening, too much protection both inside and out, always hope to hear news of Huntley and Carr along with many others who have committed heinous crimes being subject to similar to what they did, sadly when it comes to protecting pond life like these(even from themselves) our system seems to work. Ian Huntley is the bastard, Maxine Carr actually had nothing to do with the murders itself. Infact she was in grimsby at the time of the murders. She provided a false alibi for Huntley believing his word that he as innocent. She's naive and stupid, but not a child murderer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jillyanne Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 Ian Huntley is the bastard, Maxine Carr actually had nothing to do with the murders itself. Infact she was in grimsby at the time of the murders. She provided a false alibi for Huntley believing his word that he as innocent. She's naive and stupid, but not a child murderer. Nope - a massive liar as has been said already, pure evil just like Huntley. Why the hell she should be given anonimity (sp) is beyond me as well as the Bulger killers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 Nope - a massive liar as has been said already, pure evil just like Huntley. Why the hell she should be given anonimity (sp) is beyond me as well as the Bulger killers. Her crime was going out with the bastard and being in love with the bastard enough to protect him and believe his word. Yes, she is stupid and naive and in the wrong, but she is not in the same league as huntley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jillyanne Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 Her crime was going out with the bastard and being in love with the bastard enough to protect him and believe his word. Yes, she is stupid and naive and in the wrong, but she is not in the same league as huntley. Erm - she knew he had murdered 2 little girls and still lied for him - does that make her a nice person. Sorry but I am recently married and can assure you if my husband murdered 2 little girls I would be straight on the side of the prosecution (sp) and would have called the police in the first instance. There is love and there is whats right, she was/is a selfish ****** who in my mind should be rotting inside with him. Also - I honestly think she had much more to do with the whole thing than she lets on. No doubt her and Mary Bell are comparing notes in their hidden existance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 Erm - she knew he had murdered 2 little girls and still lied for him - does that make her a nice person. Sorry but I am recently married and can assure you if my husband murdered 2 little girls I would be straight on the side of the prosecution (sp) and would have called the police in the first instance. There is love and there is whats right, she was/is a selfish ****** who in my mind should be rotting inside with him. Also - I honestly think she had much more to do with the whole thing than she lets on. No doubt her and Mary Bell are comparing notes in their hidden existance. Jill, are you a regular subscriber to Heat magazine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jillyanne Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 Jill, are you a regular subscriber to Heat magazine? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 No. Ah.OK magazine is more your thing. Classy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jillyanne Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 Ah.OK magazine is more your thing. Classy. No not that either, I used to subscribe to Smash Hits in the 80's but thats about it tbf. I think my nan bought me the barbie annual when I was very little but couldn't be sure and as she is dead I can't check with her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 Jill your views are very odd. Miss Carr is a stupid tw*t tbh but if you can't see the difference between what Huntley did and what Carr did then you are a rather simple individual. CLEARLY there is a big difference between the two. As to the last part of your post, that's just idiotic speculation as I'm sure you do not know Maxine Carr personally nor all the details of the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint in Paradise Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 I must say that I am also a "simple individual" then as I agree with Jill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jillyanne Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 Jill your views are very odd. Miss Carr is a stupid tw*t tbh but if you can't see the difference between what Huntley did and what Carr did then you are a rather simple individual. CLEARLY there is a big difference between the two. As to the last part of your post, that's just idiotic speculation as I'm sure you do not know Maxine Carr personally nor all the details of the case. Christ - I can see the difference. Of course I can but ask yourself why? You call me a simple individual but surely she is the simple individual if she couldn't see that giving the murderer an alibi would land her right in the shyte. Are you a copper who worked on the case? If not then shut up, she is as guilty as him imho, it is only an opinion of course but one echoed my many people in this country. As for your comment about knowing her personally - I am damn glad I don't as no doubt my house would have been bricked etc thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 Maxine Carr didn't know he had murdered the two girls. He was arrested and she created an alibi for him believing his innocence. Stupid and naive, but not the same as knowing he had done it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 Maxine Carr didn't know he had murdered the two girls. He was arrested and she created an alibi for him believing his innocence. Stupid and naive, but not the same as knowing he had done it. Exactly. That's the whole point. Nobody is saying that she didn't commit a crime. Nobody is saying that she is a complete knob who I would never really want to meet, but clearly the two crimes are different. Christ - I can see the difference. Of course I can but ask yourself why? You call me a simple individual but surely she is the simple individual if she couldn't see that giving the murderer an alibi would land her right in the shyte. Oh I have no doubt that she was a simple individual. As far as I am aware, she believed him to be innocent and very stupidly gave him a false allibi. To my mind that does not make her evil, certainly not to the extent that the press made it. Huntley and Carr committed two different crimes. Are you a copper who worked on the case? If not then shut up, she is as guilty as him imho, it is only an opinion of course but one echoed my many people in this country. What on earth are you talking about? I never claimed to know about the case in detail. I was questioning your silly speculation about what she might be doing in prison etc. As for your comment about knowing her personally - I am damn glad I don't as no doubt my house would have been bricked etc thanks. Well that's just another example of stupidity. How does knowing someone personally make you guilty by association? Your arguments are ludicrous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaford Saint Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 Looks as if I have started a debate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jillyanne Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 Exactly. That's the whole point. Nobody is saying that she didn't commit a crime. Nobody is saying that she is a complete knob who I would never really want to meet, but clearly the two crimes are different. Well that's just another example of stupidity. How does knowing someone personally make you guilty by association? Your arguments are ludicrous. If and I mean if............... you were the father of one of these girls, how would you stand then. She is evil through and through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junction 9 Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 Looks as if I have started a debate Indeed you have. I don't really know the details of the case any more than what was in the press but I assumed Carr's involvement was more than some are suggesting on here, possibly not. As for those convicted of baby P's murder I don't know what to say about them. I've never been an advocate of capital punishment but sometimes I wonder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 If and I mean if............... you were the father of one of these girls, how would you stand then. She is evil through and through. That's completely and utterly different because he is totally biased. Your comments are typical of many people in Britain today but then I am totally unsurprised given previous comments you have made on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 Indeed you have. I don't really know the details of the case any more than what was in the press but I assumed Carr's involvement was more than some are suggesting on here, possibly not. As for those convicted of baby P's murder I don't know what to say about them. I've never been an advocate of capital punishment but sometimes I wonder. I am working on the assumption that she was unaware that Huntley was guilty. I don't claim to know all of the facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 If and I mean if............... you were the father of one of these girls, how would you stand then. She is evil through and through. But she didn't know he murdered them, she didn't murder them. She had absolutely nothing to do with the murders. Evil is a strong word. Too strong for her case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jillyanne Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 That's completely and utterly different because he is totally biased. Your comments are typical of many people in Britain today but then I am totally unsurprised given previous comments you have made on here. Ok, I don't know you but I hope she is given a new life in a nice little nursery looking after YOUR children - no doubt your pathetic attitude would then change pretty sharpish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 But she didn't know he murdered them, she didn't murder them. She had absolutely nothing to do with the murders. Evil is a strong word. Too strong for her case. Which is obvious to everyone else. At no point has anyone been defending Carr's actions, its just that most people can see past the press sensationalism and make up their own mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 Ok, I don't know you but I hope she is given a new life in a nice little nursery looking after YOUR children - no doubt your pathetic attitude would then change pretty sharpish. I doubt she will ever be in a position to anything like that again because of the witchhunt of her for a crime her boyfriend committed. She never committed murder! She had nothing to do with it. She just stupidly provided an alibi because she believed her husbands innocence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 Ok, I don't know you but I hope she is given a new life in a nice little nursery looking after YOUR children - no doubt your pathetic attitude would then change pretty sharpish. What an odd thing to say. She wouldn't be allowed to because of CRB checks. Just because I don't believe her to be evil, and I can see a distinction between the crimes of a murderer and the crimes of someone who lies to protect someone who they believe to be innocent does not mean that I would want anything to do with her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 I doubt she will ever be in a position to anything like that again because of the witchhunt of her for a crime her boyfriend committed. She never committed murder! She had nothing to do with it. She just stupidly provided an alibi because she believed her husbands innocence. Yep. Jill what exactly do you believe her to be guilty of? Are you saying that she knew that Huntley was guilty and yet still lied to protect him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 Oh and my children would go to my nurseries- the best ones in southampton so no chance of dodgy characters there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 Oh and my children would go to my nurseries- the best ones in southampton so no chance of dodgy characters there What's the name of your nurseries? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 I'm hardly likely to reveal that on here! Just look for the ones with the most "outstanding" ofsted inspections and you can figure it out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 I'm hardly likely to reveal that on here! Just look for the ones with the most "outstanding" ofsted inspections and you can figure it out Alright alright. I was just wondering if I could have ever been to one of them. I'm only 16 and lived the first 5 years of my life in Southampton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted 12 August, 2009 Share Posted 12 August, 2009 Maxine Carr didn't know he had murdered the two girls. He was arrested and she created an alibi for him believing his innocence. Stupid and naive, but not the same as knowing he had done it. So you know this for sure do you? Have you questioned her yourself? At the trial the Judge said she showed no remorse for the murdered kids, only for herself, by continually lying to the police for weeks. She was manipulative and treated the whole investigation glibly, with no appreciation of the severity of it all. Once she was questioned the first time, she should have confessed she was lying in her statement. To not do so is not "stupid and naive" but knowingly perverting the course of justice. She deserved her sentence and more, but not to be let out early. Unfortunately, there are too many people in this country willing to look for excuses for people like these. The tabloid press may be sweeping in their stories, but people like you, peddling equally unjustified or unsubstantiated theories are just as bad, if not worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_bert Posted 12 August, 2009 Author Share Posted 12 August, 2009 Bit of a Daily Mail thing to say IMO. What they did was horrific and I can't believe anyone is even remotely interested in the costs of the trial, which must add up to all of 3p per tax payer. Agree they should be shot though. There are situations where the death penatly is applicable. In certain murder and rape cases it fits the bill and this is one of them. The cos of the trial was not what I was talking about though was it? My anger is paying a single pence toward keeping them safe once released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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