JustMike Posted 10 August, 2009 Posted 10 August, 2009 how many more do we realistically need to aim for playoffs or above?
JustMike Posted 10 August, 2009 Author Posted 10 August, 2009 4 more - all of Lamberts quality too what positions?
Dannyboy_Saint Posted 10 August, 2009 Posted 10 August, 2009 A CB in the Jaidi mold (still hoping to get Jaidi himself to be honest) a strong Midfield general (like Matt Holland but prefereably younger) and a pacy right winger. If we get all those we'll have a very good good squad.
JustMike Posted 10 August, 2009 Author Posted 10 August, 2009 AL will be ok for rm. Not to sure we are ok for the left side though. definately CB, CM and a striker (although im looking forward to see how pato and lambert click)
S-Clarke Posted 10 August, 2009 Posted 10 August, 2009 AL will be ok for rm. Not to sure we are ok for the left side though. definately CB, CM and a striker (although im looking forward to see how pato and lambert click) Don't agree tbh. A pacey right-sided midfielder has to be one of our main targets. We need natural width in this team.
saint_stevo Posted 10 August, 2009 Posted 10 August, 2009 agreed, we need a EM who can go by his man and get to the by line
JustMike Posted 10 August, 2009 Author Posted 10 August, 2009 Don't agree tbh. A pacey right-sided midfielder has to be one of our main targets. We need natural width in this team. so would AL play through the centre?
Ludwig Posted 10 August, 2009 Posted 10 August, 2009 1 or 2 quality additions, midfielder and a defender. Another couple to bolster the squad.
saint_stevo Posted 10 August, 2009 Posted 10 August, 2009 so would AL play through the centre? Ideally
JustMike Posted 10 August, 2009 Author Posted 10 August, 2009 i suppose if the next 2 are a quality CB and CM then would there be such a hasty need for anyone else (assuming one of saga / rasiak stays)
S-Clarke Posted 10 August, 2009 Posted 10 August, 2009 so would AL play through the centre? Yep, just floating in between midfield and attack.
JustMike Posted 10 August, 2009 Author Posted 10 August, 2009 Yep, just floating in between midfield and attack. so in the centre next to morgan? bit young and lightweight if we play both through the centre.
S-Clarke Posted 10 August, 2009 Posted 10 August, 2009 so in the centre next to morgan? bit young and lightweight if we play both through the centre. I wouldn't play in in centre mid, i'd keep morgan and another in there but we could just play him behind the front man in the AMF role IMO. Just my 2 pence anyway.
Saint Fan CaM Posted 10 August, 2009 Posted 10 August, 2009 Don't agree tbh. A pacey right-sided midfielder has to be one of our main targets. We need natural width in this team. Do you not think that Murty can do that on the overlap? I think that's the plan with James at RM - I thought they looked good working together and starting to gel as a force on the right. Murty can deliver a wicked cross into the box as he's shown on a least 3 occasions (one which was absolute quality where Rasiak scored v Hearts).
saints_is_the_south Posted 10 August, 2009 Posted 10 August, 2009 CB (Jaidi or the Stockport fella) LB (to offer competition to Harding so we can f*ck Molyneux off) RM ST (Craddock from Luton to offer back up to Lambert & Pato & one of Saga/Rasiak as i think 1 of them will stay)
JustMike Posted 10 August, 2009 Author Posted 10 August, 2009 I wouldn't play in in centre mid, i'd keep morgan and another in there but we could just play him behind the front man in the AMF role IMO. Just my 2 pence anyway. so a 4-4-1-1 kind of thing?
S-Clarke Posted 10 August, 2009 Posted 10 August, 2009 Do you not think that Murty can do that on the overlap? I think that's the plan with James at RM - I thought they looked good working together and starting to gel as a force on the right. Murty can deliver a wicked cross into the box as he's shown on a least 3 occasions (one which was absolute quality where Rasiak scored v Hearts). Murty was v good, and surprised me with his bursts of pace. But i remember when he was at reading, he excelled with a natural right winger in front of him (Glen Little). Lloyd gives us balance there...but he's not going to give us the ability to get in behind teams defenses, which is what we're badly lacking atm.
S-Clarke Posted 10 August, 2009 Posted 10 August, 2009 so a 4-4-1-1 kind of thing? yep - worth a try imo. Lambert is the sort of striker who can hopefully hold it up and with someone like adam playing just off him, it could be a good partnership.
JustMike Posted 10 August, 2009 Author Posted 10 August, 2009 id be happy with AL on the right with morgan plus a n other in the centre. Lambert and patterson up front, holmes on the left (or another player)
Saint Fan CaM Posted 10 August, 2009 Posted 10 August, 2009 (edited) The one position that must be sorted out is Wotton's - he is nowhere near good enough in terms of distribution and in my mind does not contribute much to the game other than look a bit mean. Both he and Schneiderlin sit back far too much when playing together so central mid-field is left empty and there's nobody to attack that area of the pitch. MS is a better player and can act as a holding CM - therefore we need a CM playmaker - someone who is tough, but can take the ball from box to box if necessary or get the wings working. Don't know who might fulfill that role that is available for transfer though. Edited 10 August, 2009 by Saint Fan CaM
Pilchards Posted 10 August, 2009 Posted 10 August, 2009 Need a GK too, Did you see our keeper 2 yards off his line and being lobbed by a lousy header. ;-) I reckon a midfield general, another striker with a bloody hard CB that's seen it and done it.
Saint Fan CaM Posted 10 August, 2009 Posted 10 August, 2009 Murty was v good, and surprised me with his bursts of pace. But i remember when he was at reading, he excelled with a natural right winger in front of him (Glen Little). Lloyd gives us balance there...but he's not going to give us the ability to get in behind teams defenses, which is what we're badly lacking atm. I would agree that if we had a player of Littles ability, we would be laughing. I just get the feeling that AP rates LJ on the right in front of Murty and that's how things will stay. As I mentioned above, priority for me is at CB (Jaidi hopefully) and a CM playmaker (who?).
Rod Le Shearer Posted 10 August, 2009 Posted 10 August, 2009 cb, cm, rm, st Agreed,but I dont think they all would need to cost £ 1 million each. a combined total of £ 2 million more spent,should see us where we want to be !
Crowds Posted 10 August, 2009 Posted 10 August, 2009 could mifsud play down the wing? i remember him being stupidly quick...
JustMike Posted 10 August, 2009 Author Posted 10 August, 2009 I would agree that if we had a player of Littles ability, we would be laughing. I just get the feeling that AP rates LJ on the right in front of Murty and that's how things will stay. As I mentioned above, priority for me is at CB (Jaidi hopefully) and a CM playmaker (who?). AL was due to play there with fish mills on the left, but for mills injury and then had to switch it around for millwall. AL was the 1st choice RW
Glasgow_Saint Posted 10 August, 2009 Posted 10 August, 2009 what positions? GK - Sorted RB - Murty (James as cover) LB - Harding (Molyneux, not good enough imo) Cover needed CB - Perry (Can he play every week? Unlikely) Lancashire to cover CB - Thomas Cover or better needed RM - Sorted (Lallana, Thomson and McLaggon) LM - Mills and Holmes (Holmes stays fit then sorted) if not cover or better needed MF - Schneiderlin Cover needed MF - Gillet (Wotton not good enough imo) Cover or better needed ST - Patterson Cover or better needed ST - Lambert We need a LB, CB, CM or 2 and ST if Rasiak and Saga leave. Couple of decent wide men would also be nice
JustMike Posted 10 August, 2009 Author Posted 10 August, 2009 GK - Sorted RB - Murty (James as cover) LB - Harding (Molyneux, not good enough imo) Cover needed CB - Perry (Can he play every week? Unlikely) Lancashire to cover CB - Thomas Cover or better needed RM - Sorted (Lallana, Thomson and McLaggon) LM - Mills and Holmes (Holmes stays fit then sorted) if not cover or better needed MF - Schneiderlin Cover needed MF - Gillet (Wotton not good enough imo) Cover or better needed ST - Patterson Cover or better needed ST - Lambert We need a LB, CB, CM or 2 and ST if Rasiak and Saga leave. Couple of decent wide men would also be nice yep agree 100%
Glasgow_Saint Posted 10 August, 2009 Posted 10 August, 2009 yep agree 100% felt good writing Lamberts name thou what's that coming over the hill? It's Rickie Lambert, it's Rickie Lambert
JustMike Posted 10 August, 2009 Author Posted 10 August, 2009 felt good writing Lamberts name thou what's that coming over the hill? It's Rickie Lambert, it's Rickie Lambert haha yesssssss :-) see, told you we would be ok, its going to be a rebuilding job but its also going to be one hell of a ride
Saint Fan CaM Posted 10 August, 2009 Posted 10 August, 2009 AL was due to play there with fish mills on the left, but for mills injury and then had to switch it around for millwall. AL was the 1st choice RW I don't get that though. Lallana is a left-footer so why play him on the right? It would make no sense whatsoever in terms of getting to the byline to deliver a decent cross to Rasiak or indeed now Lambert.
JustMike Posted 10 August, 2009 Author Posted 10 August, 2009 I don't get that though. Lallana is a left-footer so why play him on the right? It would make no sense whatsoever in terms of getting to the byline to deliver a decent cross to Rasiak or indeed now Lambert. i thought he was right footed? can he use both?
Saint Fan CaM Posted 10 August, 2009 Posted 10 August, 2009 GK - Sorted RB - Murty (James as cover) LB - Harding (Molyneux, not good enough imo) Cover needed CB - Perry (Can he play every week? Unlikely) Lancashire to cover CB - Thomas Cover or better needed RM - Sorted (Lallana, Thomson and McLaggon) LM - Mills and Holmes (Holmes stays fit then sorted) if not cover or better needed MF - Schneiderlin Cover needed MF - Gillet (Wotton not good enough imo) Cover or better needed ST - Patterson Cover or better needed ST - Lambert We need a LB, CB, CM or 2 and ST if Rasiak and Saga leave. Couple of decent wide men would also be nice CMF is in need of a serious sort-out IMO. Wotton is not good enough - agreed. I do not think that a partnership of MS and Gillett is going to work plus they are both too young at the moment. We need a strong dominant and pacey, attacking playmaker. Not too much to ask for?!
sentry Posted 10 August, 2009 Posted 10 August, 2009 cb, cm, rm, st Completely agree. I said earlier this season the same, 2 strickers, 1 cm 1 rm 1 cb + add that with 1x lb and 1 x rb of course.
Saint Fan CaM Posted 10 August, 2009 Posted 10 August, 2009 i thought he was right footed? can he use both? Mmm, you've got me thinking now! lol He may be OK with both, but I thought his left foot is his dominant side. Can anyone confirm?
Minsk Posted 10 August, 2009 Posted 10 August, 2009 GK - Sorted RB - Murty (James as cover) LB - Harding (Molyneux, not good enough imo) Cover needed CB - Perry (Can he play every week? Unlikely) Lancashire to cover CB - Thomas Cover or better needed RM - Sorted (Lallana, Thomson and McLaggon) LM - Mills and Holmes (Holmes stays fit then sorted) if not cover or better needed MF - Schneiderlin Cover needed MF - Gillet (Wotton not good enough imo) Cover or better needed ST - Patterson Cover or better needed ST - Lambert We need a LB, CB, CM or 2 and ST if Rasiak and Saga leave. Couple of decent wide men would also be nice Kind of agree, except: I think Mills is Harding's cover at LB (as well as probably being the first choice Lm at the moment). James can also cover RM and CM. We definitely need a ood solid CB who (IMO) should partner Thomas leaving Perry as Number one CB cover and Lancashire as 4th choice. In fact, ideally, I would rather we signed 2 new CBs but I suppose we could always bring a loan in if the new one or Thomas were to be out for any length of time. (I don't want us to even have Lancashire on the bench this season.)
JustMike Posted 10 August, 2009 Author Posted 10 August, 2009 both footed but stronger right...(according to FM 2009 ;-) )
kpturner Posted 10 August, 2009 Posted 10 August, 2009 Lol - I thought this thread was a match report for a reserve game or summat!
opthomps Posted 10 August, 2009 Posted 10 August, 2009 if we get 2 quality midfielders in do you think lallana could play off Lambert. I think with the right players around him he could create and take chances at this level, just not sure of his pace though. I would imagine AP might change tactics and formations depending on who the opposition is. I think 1 CB and 2 MF and we would be looking good.
Bailey Posted 10 August, 2009 Posted 10 August, 2009 Realistically, I think we need two centre-backs, a right-midfielder, a central-midfielder and another striker. The signing of Lambert also means we could potentially play Lallana in his preferred and most effective position; just off a physical forward. If we can fill the positions in the team below, I think we'd have a decent chance of making the play-offs this season . . . ----------------- Davis ------------------ Murty ----- Perry ----- ????? ----- Harding ????? --- Schneiderlin --- Gillett --- Holmes ---------- Lambert ---- Lallana -----------
beatlesaint Posted 10 August, 2009 Posted 10 August, 2009 at least one more centre back, preferebly two given Perry's age and Thomas's fitness. A hard man centre midfielder Another striker Right sided midfielder (left side sorted) So 5 in all I reckon or 4 if you only go with one CB. I would think you could get two of the 4 as freebies/loan players and pay a fair amount for another striker and one of the other positions.
chrisobee Posted 10 August, 2009 Posted 10 August, 2009 I'm reasonably happy with this team/squad with the exception of those * Davis ( Bart) Murty Perry * Thomas * ( need cover for CB especially as Thomas is so injury prone though Ok as a pairing if fit- Jaidi would certainly be a great signing if it goes through after all) Harding * ( again at least 1 defender needed) Lallana Schneiderlin Wooton * ( need someone who can boss the midfield and complement the youth of Morgan- someone in the mould of Jimmy Case would do nicely!) Holmes Patterson/Saga Lambert/AN Other So essentially I'd be looking for at least one defender and one midfield player plus another striker to replace Rasiak. Given the right signings ( versatility a key factor especially in defence) 3 would be the minimum, I think McLaggon could be very good when fit again.
chrisobee Posted 10 August, 2009 Posted 10 August, 2009 Lol - I thought this thread was a match report for a reserve game or summat! Lol, I though someone was looking for the answer to the final clue in a crossword
Danish Saint Posted 10 August, 2009 Posted 10 August, 2009 AP made a point after QPR (?) that more height was needed at CB... Perry is not good enough, and Thomas is too injured.. Two new CB's IMHO...
WATERSIDEIFASAINT Posted 10 August, 2009 Posted 10 August, 2009 From what I've heard we may be about to spend some serious money!! I'd expect 1or2 cb ,cm,rm and at least 2 more strikers if Saga & Rasiak go. My guess would be another 4 or 5 signings plus a couple of loans. It could be by the end of the transfer window that only Davis & Morgan are in the side from last years side
chrisobee Posted 10 August, 2009 Posted 10 August, 2009 What's Darren Moore up to these days? Is he not at Barnsley ?
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