eurosaint Posted 10 August, 2009 Share Posted 10 August, 2009 So then, this 'Pasualle'....who he? Some t0sser who can't score goals ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfc123 Posted 10 August, 2009 Share Posted 10 August, 2009 Some t0sser who can't score goals ?? That was someone else who got both against Rangers on Saturday then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 10 August, 2009 Share Posted 10 August, 2009 Which © I know, I know. But the list is endless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right sider Posted 10 August, 2009 Share Posted 10 August, 2009 That was someone else who got both against Rangers on Saturday then? Rangers reserve side, you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joesaint Posted 10 August, 2009 Share Posted 10 August, 2009 Piquionne. Not seen him yet, here he is in action... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J16f1Z4-IDU Love it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 10 August, 2009 Share Posted 10 August, 2009 True, but he doesn't appear to want to spend any of it. We need a Markus Liebherr with the money burning a hole in his pocket only £1m today. You - anyone who tranmere released as not good enough? or persuaded more players to come out of retirement other than Neimi, Finnan and Viduka? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfc123 Posted 10 August, 2009 Share Posted 10 August, 2009 only £1m today. You - anyone who tranmere released as not good enough? or persuaded more players to come out of retirement other than Neimi, Finnan and Viduka? Relax, we'll be fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 10 August, 2009 Share Posted 10 August, 2009 I'm relaxed - cos you won't! what about Jimmy Greaves for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulSaint Posted 10 August, 2009 Share Posted 10 August, 2009 I predict you will be the first Prem club in admin, the real p*sser is that you didnt buy a nice new stadium to replace that toilet before the debts got wiped? You couldnt make it up! :smt036 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 10 August, 2009 Share Posted 10 August, 2009 "Portsmouth look great value to be relegated. Their best players have been sold, the manager has been hung out to dry. The Onlinebetting guide recommendation" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 10 August, 2009 Share Posted 10 August, 2009 http://www.williamhillmedia.com/index_template.asp?file=12931 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 10 August, 2009 Share Posted 10 August, 2009 is jobsite, their new sponsor, where they are recruiting their new players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 10 August, 2009 Share Posted 10 August, 2009 Yeah, that small crappy stadium thats gonna hold a World cup group games LMFAO All the players who grew up playing football in the slums and shanty towns of South Africa, Brazil and Argentina will feel right at home there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca155 Posted 10 August, 2009 Share Posted 10 August, 2009 "Relax, we'll be fine" Not a 100% sure about that my Blue friend. Pompey won't go out of business but these money problems have been going on for years and have never really been resolved. In reality the situation with both teams is probably about the same. Similar size cities with similar size crowds and fan base. Marcus bought Saints for 13 million and that got him a modern stadium in good nick, state of the art training academy, building land, hospitatlity/conference set up, League membership desperate as it was, and most importantly of all no debt and sole ownership. All he needed to do is buy a team which in Div 1 is probably 5- 6 million maximum and fund higher wages to enable the club to climb out of this position. Not a bad investment really just a bit oif a long term one. Pompey have the highly prized Premiership status and that is worth millions but they are firmly positioned in the Premiership relegation league which will be perm three from any one of Pompey, Burnley, Stoke, Hull, Wolves, Bolton, Blackburn, and possibly Wigan. They have a debt that seems to vary every week but probably around 60 million. The stadium needs rebuilding and that's an eye watering 100 million before you start thinking about it. That can only be funded by a hotel/casino/shopping development and Portsmouth Council will not allow that as it will hit Gunwarth their own Golden Goose. Even with the transfer of some players the wage bill will eat up the money from Sky and 19K crowds. There aren't any players to sell as Pompey have had a policy of not paying money up front for years so when a player is sold precious little money comes through to the club unless they are home grown. Good young players are coming through but it takes years to see a return on that investment. For an investor who wants a Premiership football club he needs to wave goodbye to 200 million before seeing a return and hoping that the team can survive in the Premiership. If I had that sort of money a team like Forest or Sheffield Wed/Utd would be more attractive. Fratton Park is Pompey's secret weapon in the same way the Dell was for Saints and once they lose that with a ground half full of plastic fans survival will become even more difficult. If you doubt that just ask any Saints / Arsenal / Man City fan. The problem is that the difference between the lower teams and the upper elite is growing and the number of teams where possible points can be taken is shrinking. Unfortunately you have to add City to the top four now which means that's ten games where the best any team can hope for is a couple of points possibly a rare win. Next you have Villa, Spurs, Everton, and probably Brum, West ham, Fulham, Sunderland where points will be hard to come by. Look coldly at those facts and it looks bleak for Pompey but as you say beat Fulham on Saturday and everything will look a little brighter. Personally I want Pompey to stay in the Premiership and Saints to join them as quickly as possible. Obviously then Pompey should lose and frequently be relegated as that is the natural order of things However Fratton Park should be preserved as a national heritage site. Dump it may be but I have some treasured memories from there and some terrible ones as well. It stands as one of the last reminders of when teams played football on equal terms. A dark, cold intimidating environment and the only thing you could buy at half time was a bovril and a wagon wheel.... if you were lucky. I would suggest that Saints fans haven't exactly got a lot to crow about at the moment. Our hearts may be full of hope but the facts show Saints are cast adrift at the bottom of Division 3. Might be best to sdave it for a few weeks. Don't you love football six weeks ago Pompey were Billionaires and Saints were ...... finished. I wonder what things will look like in six weeks. Macca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 10 August, 2009 Share Posted 10 August, 2009 Nice post Macca - tend to agree with most of it. I want Pompey to stay up as well, but in order to do that I think that they need to have a good start, a bit a la Hull City last season. Problem is though, if they don't get off to a flyer I think that confidence will go and heads will drop and it will be too easy for some to just blame it on the circumstances of the past few months. They really do have thier backs against the wall now - it's up to the players that are left to dig them out, adopt a seige mentality and show some real bottle. Whether that happens remains to be seen. Personally I think that the good Dr needs to get his act togeather - either buy them now or butt out. As your post points out, they do not look a good investment, even at a nominal £1.00 fee - but the Dr is effectively doing a 'Pinnacle' on them by dragging this takeover out. If he gets cold feet now PFC are going to find it very difficult to find a buyer in the present climate - as you so rightly point out, other clubs are a far more attractive proposition. 200 million to sort PFC our, or go north and knock off the Geordies at around 70 million - I know where I'd go. I feel for the Blue Few - I hope they get things sorted - but right now it looks pretty bleak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeySFC Posted 10 August, 2009 Share Posted 10 August, 2009 I think there is only one word to sum up Pompey at this precise moment in time. Comedy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 "Relax, we'll be fine" Not a 100% sure about that my Blue friend. Pompey won't go out of business but these money problems have been going on for years and have never really been resolved. In reality the situation with both teams is probably about the same. Similar size cities with similar size crowds and fan base. Marcus bought Saints for 13 million and that got him a modern stadium in good nick, state of the art training academy, building land, hospitatlity/conference set up, League membership desperate as it was, and most importantly of all no debt and sole ownership. All he needed to do is buy a team which in Div 1 is probably 5- 6 million maximum and fund higher wages to enable the club to climb out of this position. Not a bad investment really just a bit oif a long term one. Pompey have the highly prized Premiership status and that is worth millions but they are firmly positioned in the Premiership relegation league which will be perm three from any one of Pompey, Burnley, Stoke, Hull, Wolves, Bolton, Blackburn, and possibly Wigan. They have a debt that seems to vary every week but probably around 60 million. The stadium needs rebuilding and that's an eye watering 100 million before you start thinking about it. That can only be funded by a hotel/casino/shopping development and Portsmouth Council will not allow that as it will hit Gunwarth their own Golden Goose. Even with the transfer of some players the wage bill will eat up the money from Sky and 19K crowds. There aren't any players to sell as Pompey have had a policy of not paying money up front for years so when a player is sold precious little money comes through to the club unless they are home grown. Good young players are coming through but it takes years to see a return on that investment. For an investor who wants a Premiership football club he needs to wave goodbye to 200 million before seeing a return and hoping that the team can survive in the Premiership. If I had that sort of money a team like Forest or Sheffield Wed/Utd would be more attractive. Fratton Park is Pompey's secret weapon in the same way the Dell was for Saints and once they lose that with a ground half full of plastic fans survival will become even more difficult. If you doubt that just ask any Saints / Arsenal / Man City fan. The problem is that the difference between the lower teams and the upper elite is growing and the number of teams where possible points can be taken is shrinking. Unfortunately you have to add City to the top four now which means that's ten games where the best any team can hope for is a couple of points possibly a rare win. Next you have Villa, Spurs, Everton, and probably Brum, West ham, Fulham, Sunderland where points will be hard to come by. Look coldly at those facts and it looks bleak for Pompey but as you say beat Fulham on Saturday and everything will look a little brighter. Personally I want Pompey to stay in the Premiership and Saints to join them as quickly as possible. Obviously then Pompey should lose and frequently be relegated as that is the natural order of things However Fratton Park should be preserved as a national heritage site. Dump it may be but I have some treasured memories from there and some terrible ones as well. It stands as one of the last reminders of when teams played football on equal terms. A dark, cold intimidating environment and the only thing you could buy at half time was a bovril and a wagon wheel.... if you were lucky. I would suggest that Saints fans haven't exactly got a lot to crow about at the moment. Our hearts may be full of hope but the facts show Saints are cast adrift at the bottom of Division 3. Might be best to sdave it for a few weeks. Don't you love football six weeks ago Pompey were Billionaires and Saints were ...... finished. I wonder what things will look like in six weeks.Macca It is indeed a funny old game, eh ? Good post BTW ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyes k8 Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 I'm touched by the enduring fascination with all things Pompey on this board. Over 200 replies on this thread. One person is even praying daily for the ground to fall to bits and us to get relegated. He seems not to realise that the first part of his prayer has already been answered. As for the second part if you keep looking up at us you are all going to get very stiff necks. I think you should be content for us to stay in the prem until you manage to return, then we can have one of those interesting April matches like we did last time-Whoever loses gets relegated. Now that would be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkiesaint Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 to all those who would rather be in our position, go back a few years and is that where pompey were? bougfht by mandaric to invest to get to the premiership and then make a quick buck by selling. roll on 5a few years and who's to say Liebherr won't be doing the same? Presumably he wants a return on his investment.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogerfryisalegend Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 I'm touched by the enduring fascination with all things Pompey on this board. Over 200 replies on this thread. One person is even praying daily for the ground to fall to bits and us to get relegated. He seems not to realise that the first part of his prayer has already been answered. As for the second part if you keep looking up at us you are all going to get very stiff necks. I think you should be content for us to stay in the prem until you manage to return, then we can have one of those interesting April matches like we did last time-Whoever loses gets relegated. Now that would be interesting.Just like we are touched that a skate is sad enough to spend so much time on a Southampton forum, Closet.. Personaly I dont want any club to go bust, but, i won't lose any sleep if you do, it's funny how the skates in my office have gone all but silent in the last month, how things change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daren W Posted 11 August, 2009 Author Share Posted 11 August, 2009 I'm touched by the enduring fascination with all things Pompey on this board. Over 200 replies on this thread. One person is even praying daily for the ground to fall to bits and us to get relegated. He seems not to realise that the first part of his prayer has already been answered. As for the second part if you keep looking up at us you are all going to get very stiff necks. I think you should be content for us to stay in the prem until you manage to return, then we can have one of those interesting April matches like we did last time-Whoever loses gets relegated. Now that would be interesting. From the poster with over 600 posts on a Saints messageboard.... lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 Pompey's curse was to get Harry the chequebook. The club (and all others) will always suffer after he leaves because the endless bungs stop super fast. Hence mass exodus of Fratton Park. Notice how he is now taking control of all transfers at Spurs? NOtice how he keeps going to the same agents, i mean players? Is there a limit to the ten per cents he can make on one player following him around like a lapdog? It all adds up to enormous popularity (from the fawning press guys too), plus a flashy home on Sandbanks. Shame the England manager can't just buy teams, as he would have been perfect. Mind you, appointing Paul Hart was about the stupidest thing to have done in my view. Hardly sets the pulse racing, does it. I'd say this is the year that the yawning gap between the two clubs starts to shrink dramatically, -10 or no -10... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dellboypete Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 Bookmakers cut odds on Portsmouth relegation in todays times http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/portsmouth/article6790955.ece Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKATE_HATE Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 I'm touched by the enduring fascination with all things Pompey on this board. Over 200 replies on this thread. One person is even praying daily for the ground to fall to bits and us to get relegated. He seems not to realise that the first part of his prayer has already been answered. As for the second part if you keep looking up at us you are all going to get very stiff necks. I think you should be content for us to stay in the prem until you manage to return, then we can have one of those interesting April matches like we did last time-Whoever loses gets relegated. Now that would be interesting. I hope we draw you in the next round of the cup you smug skate ****! See how much you gotta say after that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 to all those who would rather be in our position, go back a few years and is that where pompey were? bougfht by mandaric to invest to get to the premiership and then make a quick buck by selling. roll on 5a few years and who's to say Liebherr won't be doing the same? Presumably he wants a return on his investment.. The difference is that we will still have the bright shiny stadium and the training ground and the facilities of a decent Premiership club. Also by that time, quite a few plastics from the area will have deserted the Skates and returned to us, so even if Leibherr does sell, it will be as a properly functioning, well run Premiership club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 The difference is that we will still have the bright shiny stadium and the training ground and the facilities of a decent Premiership club. Also by that time, quite a few plastics from the area will have deserted the Skates and returned to us, so even if Leibherr does sell, it will be as a properly functioning, well run Premiership club. FOOD FOR THOUGHT ..... This time last year ... Our Ex Chairman had ditched Pearson, which, IMHO, started the landslide towards Administration That, in turn has led us to being taken over by Markus Leibherr, with NO debts, and things are on the UP How ironic then, to think what would have happened IF we had had Pearson in charge last season ??? IMHO, he would have steered us to Mid Table, Gates would have been bigger, and we would NOT have gone into Admin .......... and LOWE WOULD STILL BE THERE So, after all my Rants about Lowe, I have to eat humble pie .... THANK YOU Rupert for NOT keeping Pearson .......... It has led us to having our Club back, free of debt ...... and, of course, free of YOU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 From the poster with over 600 posts on a Saints messageboard.... lol priceless! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 Does anybody know when Diego Maradonna starts his job at FP, and how many top Argentinian players he will be bringing with him? I must have missed this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dellgirl Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 I am sure they all thank 'arry from the bottom of their cottons for buying them their moment in the sun and jumping ship when he saw the writing on the proverbial wall...what a legend..there is a smell of rotting fish in the air this morning and I should know I live far too close for comfort....COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeyInReading Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 Although one or two chose to deny it, most on here last season knew damned well that we'd end up in administration. The numbers just didn't add up and we had beyond useless team and board management. By the same token, it's blindingly obvious that you will (a) lose more of your better players before the end of August; (b) lose your dodgy property developer buyer; © miss your payment deadline to Standard Chartered; © get relegated with possibly a record low number of points; and (d) go into administration. (d) may happen before © because someone at the club may see sense and take the points deduction before the end of the season. Either way, though, all of the above WILL happen. Trying to find comfort by comparing yourselves to Brum, Wolves, Stoke or Hull misses one very important point. All of those clubs are united in their desire to survive. Morale at your club is in the gutter. Are you sure your'e not getting confused between what you WANT to happen and what you THINK will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 Are you sure your'e not getting confused between what you WANT to happen and what you THINK will happen. what do you feel think is happening? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 Are you sure your'e not getting confused between what you WANT to happen and what you THINK will happen. and.........what do you WANT to happen??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints triumph Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 ours anyday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 I am sure they all thank 'arry from the bottom of their cottons for buying them their moment in the sun and jumping ship when he saw the writing on the proverbial wall...what a legend..there is a smell of rotting fish in the air this morning and I should know I live far too close for comfort....COYR And to think that they actually gave him the Freedom of the City as well...! Even after he had jumped ship - beggars belief. I bet there is somebody in a coucil office now with head in hands still wondering how that decission was passed...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyes k8 Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 Just a quick update on the S.Devon shirt watch. Despite the hundreds of Arsenal and ManU shirts I finally saw a south coast one. a kid about 3 with a saints shirt on. Poor little blighter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 Just a quick update on the S.Devon shirt watch. Despite the hundreds of Arsenal and ManU shirts I finally saw a south coast one. a kid about 3 with a saints shirt on. Poor little blighter Ummmm 2.6 billion pounds poor, what about your 'kids'...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 Just a quick update on the S.Devon shirt watch. Despite the hundreds of Arsenal and ManU shirts I finally saw a south coast one. a kid about 3 with a saints shirt on. Poor little blighter You sure it wasn't an Exeter one?? I guess it could have been Ottery St Mary's great, great, grandson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 Are you sure your'e not getting confused between what you WANT to happen and what you THINK will happen. Not at all. It was all more in the way of a fool-proof (although clearly not P*mpey fan-proof) prediction. The only thing I confused was my 'c's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 Just a quick update on the S.Devon shirt watch. Despite the hundreds of Arsenal and ManU shirts I finally saw a south coast one. a kid about 3 with a saints shirt on. Poor little blighter Of course, one never sees little kids of three with Skate shirts on, because most of them are in care, so rarely seen outside of the care homes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 Of course, one never sees little kids of three with Skate shirts on, because most of them are in care, so rarely seen outside of the care homes. Clearly there's a problem in that department. The Guardian today quotes an education spokeman as saying that the schools near his home in Portsmouth are 'offensive'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyes k8 Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 You sure it wasn't an Exeter one?? I guess it could have been Ottery St Mary's great, great, grandson? Fly BE which is both of you isn't it? I looked at the badge and I'm pretty sure it was southampton. So that leaves you 1-0 up at the moment. Have to admit I'd rather see one of your shirts than yet another big four one. Exeter should be a tough match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 Fly BE which is both of you isn't it? I looked at the badge and I'm pretty sure it was southampton. So that leaves you 1-0 up at the moment. Have to admit I'd rather see one of your shirts than yet another big four one. Exeter should be a tough match. don't worry about it yet, it another two years before you have to play them, but you are right - it will be tough for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OfnPanad Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 in todays times http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/portsmouth/article6790955.ece Ladbrokes have now stopped taking bets on Poopey to be relegated!!! :smt036 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 Saints will be in mid-table obscurity in the Premiership in 5 years barring an unforeseen disaster or some sort of rule change and League realignment. Pompey, probably won't. So the question therefore becomes: 40 years of superiority including a Cup win, other Wmebley finals, European football and a great infrastructure followed by a 5-10 year blip OR To quote a rather profligate mutual ex-manager, "40 years of dross" followed by a Cup win and long-term ruin? Hmm... let me think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 So much for the loyalty of Redflaps.... the skates appear to have been stitched up like a kipper if you pardon the fishy pun ... and some still argue Lowe should have given him free reigh of the cheque book... the mind bogles... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 And to think that they actually gave him the Freedom of the City as well...! Even after he had jumped ship - beggars belief. I bet there is somebody in a coucil office now with head in hands still wondering how that decission was passed...! Have they named that Bell in the Cathedral after him yet?? Perhaps they`ll name it after "Doctor" Who? when he saves the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 Have they named that Bell in the Cathedral after him yet?? Perhaps they`ll name it after "Doctor" Who? when he saves the club. S'pose Bellend might still be appropriate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadeem Hardison Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 As they say in Lyon: "Piquionne, Piquionne, on t'encule!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfc123 Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 "Relax, we'll be fine" Not a 100% sure about that my Blue friend. Pompey won't go out of business but these money problems have been going on for years and have never really been resolved. In reality the situation with both teams is probably about the same. Similar size cities with similar size crowds and fan base. Marcus bought Saints for 13 million and that got him a modern stadium in good nick, state of the art training academy, building land, hospitatlity/conference set up, League membership desperate as it was, and most importantly of all no debt and sole ownership. All he needed to do is buy a team which in Div 1 is probably 5- 6 million maximum and fund higher wages to enable the club to climb out of this position. Not a bad investment really just a bit oif a long term one. Pompey have the highly prized Premiership status and that is worth millions but they are firmly positioned in the Premiership relegation league which will be perm three from any one of Pompey, Burnley, Stoke, Hull, Wolves, Bolton, Blackburn, and possibly Wigan. They have a debt that seems to vary every week but probably around 60 million. The stadium needs rebuilding and that's an eye watering 100 million before you start thinking about it. That can only be funded by a hotel/casino/shopping development and Portsmouth Council will not allow that as it will hit Gunwarth their own Golden Goose. Even with the transfer of some players the wage bill will eat up the money from Sky and 19K crowds. There aren't any players to sell as Pompey have had a policy of not paying money up front for years so when a player is sold precious little money comes through to the club unless they are home grown. Good young players are coming through but it takes years to see a return on that investment. For an investor who wants a Premiership football club he needs to wave goodbye to 200 million before seeing a return and hoping that the team can survive in the Premiership. If I had that sort of money a team like Forest or Sheffield Wed/Utd would be more attractive. Fratton Park is Pompey's secret weapon in the same way the Dell was for Saints and once they lose that with a ground half full of plastic fans survival will become even more difficult. If you doubt that just ask any Saints / Arsenal / Man City fan. The problem is that the difference between the lower teams and the upper elite is growing and the number of teams where possible points can be taken is shrinking. Unfortunately you have to add City to the top four now which means that's ten games where the best any team can hope for is a couple of points possibly a rare win. Next you have Villa, Spurs, Everton, and probably Brum, West ham, Fulham, Sunderland where points will be hard to come by. Look coldly at those facts and it looks bleak for Pompey but as you say beat Fulham on Saturday and everything will look a little brighter. Personally I want Pompey to stay in the Premiership and Saints to join them as quickly as possible. Obviously then Pompey should lose and frequently be relegated as that is the natural order of things However Fratton Park should be preserved as a national heritage site. Dump it may be but I have some treasured memories from there and some terrible ones as well. It stands as one of the last reminders of when teams played football on equal terms. A dark, cold intimidating environment and the only thing you could buy at half time was a bovril and a wagon wheel.... if you were lucky. I would suggest that Saints fans haven't exactly got a lot to crow about at the moment. Our hearts may be full of hope but the facts show Saints are cast adrift at the bottom of Division 3. Might be best to sdave it for a few weeks. Don't you love football six weeks ago Pompey were Billionaires and Saints were ...... finished. I wonder what things will look like in six weeks. Macca Good post and a fair assessment without the purile abuse that us PFC followers often get on here. I know, I know it IS your board I suppose... One scenario that could save us short term if the Fahim takeover goes tits up is the one where someone wants a Premiership club on the cheap to do up in their own image. In many ways Pompey is a blank canvas (cue 'That's not all that's blank about Pompey hur! hur! jokes), that needs a hell of a lot of investment, but is at least already in the top flight. Whilst this could also attract the chancer who just wants to suck the Sky money out of it and sell off the shell when it all goes wrong, there's still just as much chance of someone coming in who's happy to take on a project. As it stands whatever happens in the next few weeks and months I'll be happy to take 17th place at the end of the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 11 August, 2009 Share Posted 11 August, 2009 pfc123 - have you seen the "did we sign the right one?" thread? watch both videos and let us know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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