Jaidi close to signing for Saints

[SaintRichmond]

To be fair SR, I don't think the club are reviewing matters after Aug 31, just trying to sort out weaknesses properly. It wouldn't surprise me if we signed at least two players next week at latest and then one more the week after. I just feel there is an air of positivity that the corner is being turned. hope I am right!

 

I quite agree TTS, it is not the Club that are saying it, it is others on here that say that

 

I too would hope that Alan Pardew will sign a few players within the next few weeks

 

Believe it or not, I too think that we have turned the corner and we should have a good season overall

 

Being greedy though, I also think that if we had already strengthened in a few positions, we WOULD be in with a shout for the play offs

 

IMHO, waiting for the next few weeks to happen, will cost us that

[SaintRichmond]

NO overseas player has a work permit if he changes club or is out of contract. He can only renew it once he is offered an extension of his current contract or offered a contract by another club. The terms by which he was originally given his work permit may well of changed in that period. The rules in which they are handed out have also been tightened in the last 18 months.

 

Thanks for that info KB ( of which I was not aware )

 

If that is the case then, the question to ask appears to be ... Why did not SFC offer him a Contract ????

 

By NOT doing so, they were, in effect, saying "Thanks, but no thanks"

 

WHY ????

[Big Bad Bob]

Thanks for that info KB ( of which I was not aware )

 

If that is the case then, the question to ask appears to be ... Why did not SFC offer him a Contract ????

 

By NOT doing so, they were, in effect, saying "Thanks, but no thanks"

 

WHY ????

 

just got this from the Daily Echo daily email

 

The 33-year-old centre half has passed a medical at Saints and agreed provisional terms on a contract.

 

But it has been revealed late on that he may struggle to get the necessary work permit to be able to play in England due to not having played the required number of international matches for Tunisia in the last 12 months.

 

Saints boss Alan Pardew said this lunchtime that the deal was not dead but confirmed it had hit a major snag.

 

Bosses at St Mary’s are taking advice before deciding how to proceed but they will not apply for a work permit unless they are confident of it being granted.

[Crouchie's Lawyer]

NO overseas player has a work permit if he changes club or is out of contract. He can only renew it once he is offered an extension of his current contract or offered a contract by another club. The terms by which he was originally given his work permit may well of changed in that period. The rules in which they are handed out have also been tightened in the last 18 months.

 

I think the point that SR is making though is that from what has been mentioned, Jaidi knew he would not get a permit. So why is his agent touting him around in the UK if Jaidi knows he will not be able to get a permit?

 

This is all superficial though seeing how DSM has pointed out the rules whereby if you reside in a country for 5 years, you are entitled to apply for citizenship (or something along those lines) so he shouldnt need a WP! Im with SR on this one. The reason given (WP Issues) does not stack it with me. There is another reason that they are hiding.

[Toadhall Saint]

I think the point that SR is making though is that from what has been mentioned, Jaidi knew he would not get a permit. So why is his agent touting him around in the UK if Jaidi knows he will not be able to get a permit?

 

This is all superficial though seeing how DSM has pointed out the rules whereby if you reside in a country for 5 years, you are entitled to apply for citizenship (or something along those lines) so he shouldnt need a WP! Im with SR on this one. The reason given (WP Issues) does not stack it with me. There is another reason that they are hiding.

 

 

thats assuming he wants to apply for citizenship of course.

[PokingFun]

I do NOT believe that "everyone is lying"

 

Instead of slagging me off, let me know your take on it then ....

 

WHY would Jaidi's agent tout him around, knowing that WITHOUT having a work permit, HE CAN'T PLAY

 

That's normal Agent practice is it .... I say it's a load of Bull

 

" stedy progress", "consolidation" .... GREAT WORDS ... but you STILL need a COMPETITIVE TEAM for that to happen

 

Others on here have said that we start against Millwall with a Team WEAKER than the one we had last season .... so I am not alone in thinking as I do

 

I'll say it again, IMHO, I do not believe the Jaidi scenario as it has been put across by SFC .... It really does not make any sense

 

My take on it is that he is either going to cost more than we want to pay, after all he was a CCC player for a big club last year, which if thats the case then we wont be held to ransom which is good IMO, or the work permit issue was not originally thought to be of concern.

 

The work permit issue maybe wasn't thought about becuase he has been here in the UK for a long time and was considered a shoo-in. I also thought the club would apply for the work permit, not necessarily the agent, but I do not know the procedure well enough to sepculate whether you can have a pre-discussion with government agencies to assess chances of success or not.

 

His agent will try to get clubs interested and then do the formalities of any deal conclusion, which I assume includes obtaining a work permit. After all, he cannot get a permit if he doesn't know who he will be playing for.

 

Are we really much weaker than last season?

 

GK = Same

RB = Improvement (Murty)

LB = Improvement (Harding)

CB = Perry & A N Other (same as last year, plus we are trying to sign a first choice CB)

CM = Same as last year, Wotton, Gillett, Spiderman, James (maybe) but accept Surman / McG going has probably weakened us a bit.

Wings = Surman is a loss, but all other personnel that regularly played are still here. Can't count Skacel as he wasn't bothered!!

Strikers = McG / BWP out, Rasiak / Saga still here so stronger assuming they want to play.

 

In summary, yes we have been weakened and I'm sure AP is working on that given his recent interviews, but equally this league is much weaker than CCC and we will be competitive with the current team. Once AP gets the right players we will be a force. Unfortunately getting the right players does not happen overnight.

[Window Cleaner]

I think the point that SR is making though is that from what has been mentioned, Jaidi knew he would not get a permit. So why is his agent touting him around in the UK if Jaidi knows he will not be able to get a permit?

 

This is all superficial though seeing how DSM has pointed out the rules whereby if you reside in a country for 5 years, you are entitled to apply for citizenship (or something along those lines) so he shouldnt need a WP! Im with SR on this one. The reason given (WP Issues) does not stack it with me. There is another reason that they are hiding.

 

But there again applying for citizenship is not without it's obstacles, neither is it instantaneous, ask Mohamed Al Fayed

[WestSaint]

My take on it is that he is either going to cost more than we want to pay, after all he was a CCC player for a big club last year, which if thats the case then we wont be held to ransom which is good IMO, or the work permit issue was not originally thought to be of concern.

 

The work permit issue maybe wasn't thought about becuase he has been here in the UK for a long time and was considered a shoo-in. I also thought the club would apply for the work permit, not necessarily the agent, but I do not know the procedure well enough to sepculate whether you can have a pre-discussion with government agencies to assess chances of success or not.

 

His agent will try to get clubs interested and then do the formalities of any deal conclusion, which I assume includes obtaining a work permit. After all, he cannot get a permit if he doesn't know who he will be playing for.

 

Are we really much weaker than last season?

 

GK = Same

RB = Improvement (Murty)

LB = Improvement (Harding)

CB = Perry & A N Other (same as last year, plus we are trying to sign a first choice CB)

CM = Same as last year, Wotton, Gillett, Spiderman, James (maybe) but accept Surman / McG going has probably weakened us a bit.

Wings = Surman is a loss, but all other personnel that regularly played are still here. Can't count Skacel as he wasn't bothered!!

Strikers = McG / BWP out, Rasiak / Saga still here so stronger assuming they want to play.

 

In summary, yes we have been weakened and I'm sure AP is working on that given his recent interviews, but equally this league is much weaker than CCC and we will be competitive with the current team. Once AP gets the right players we will be a force. Unfortunately getting the right players does not happen overnight.

 

 

 

I remember when Dave Jones took over at the club. He brought many players with him from Stockport I think it was, in a quite short period of time. They and the rest of the team took a very long time to gel together and play consistently well and I believe that the gradual introduction of better players by Pardew as the season progresses will do us better than spending on anything that moves or is immediately available

[Paul Chuckle]

I remember when Dave Jones took over at the club. He brought many players with him from Stockport I think it was, in a quite short period of time. They and the rest of the team took a very long time to gel together and play consistently well and I believe that the gradual introduction of better players by Pardew as the season progresses will do us better than spending on anything that moves or is immediately available

 

Jones brought in Paul Jones (Maik Taylor was good enough no need for GK) and Lee Todd who was shocking!

[krissyboy31]

I think the point that SR is making though is that from what has been mentioned, Jaidi knew he would not get a permit. So why is his agent touting him around in the UK if Jaidi knows he will not be able to get a permit?

 

This is all superficial though seeing how DSM has pointed out the rules whereby if you reside in a country for 5 years, you are entitled to apply for citizenship (or something along those lines) so he shouldnt need a WP! Im with SR on this one. The reason given (WP Issues) does not stack it with me. There is another reason that they are hiding.

 

Just because he may be eligible to apply for residency, doesn't mean that he has to nor wants to. I may go work abroad but it doesn't mean I have any wish or intention of becoming a resident of that country. He is probably, given the fact that he has played for his country on many, many occasions, a very patriotic guy and taking residency in a foreign country maybe seen by him as unpatriotic.

[WestSaint]

Jones brought in Paul Jones (Maik Taylor was good enough no need for GK) and Lee Todd who was shocking!

 

I thought he brought in more than that perhaps I was thinking of other clubs as well. Taylor was a ggod keeper and we have certainly had worse than Paul Jones. Todd was shocking and totally out of his depth - I guess Jones thought that he did a good job in a lower league and would raise his game or succeed for us , unfortunately it did not happen !!

[SFKA South Woodford]

We will sign more players, Pard's has said that.

 

He hasn't had long though, whatever you say. He's had to come in and assess the squad, looking at what is missing - search for and appoint his backroom staff.

 

Also, taking into account the state of our scouting system, it's entirely possible that Pard's has had to undertake alot of scouting on new players too.

 

It's not like FM - oh he's got good stats, I'll sign him. You've got to take in everything that the player has to offer (what are his strengths/weaknesses/would he improve us?) - this is 99% of the time a scouts job. (But we don't have any, according to Pards)

 

His hands aren't tied as such - but it's a bloody tricky situation to come into and start buying instantly.

 

If that's the case, he should try using this service:

 

http://www.thescoutingnetwork.co.uk/scouting.htm

 

In this day and age, it's not a long and difficult process to find out all the information he would need on any player.

 

If the new regime are happy to let the team stagnate for a season because of the points deduction, then they should come out and say it, rather than let their inaction speak for them. Even if the plan is for steady progress for this season, then they need to get it going now, not when we are points adrift in a relegation battle, by which time it may well be too late.

 

What a record that woud be for Herr Lieberr, it even took Rupert nine years to achieve his first relegation.

 

With the way things have gone so far, will all of those calling for calm and patience, still be so calm on September the 1st, if we have only managed a couple of points and a cup exit from our first six fixtures and have perhaps lost our two experienced strikers, with only two more free transfers having been added to the squad?

 

It will be a crime if we aren't at least in the top ten of this division at the end of the season, anything less will be an abject failiure for a club our size, and will not have produced any progress, steady or otherwise.

[Toadhall Saint]

If that's the case, he should try using this service:

 

http://www.thescoutingnetwork.co.uk/scouting.htm

 

In this day and age, it's not a long and difficult process to find out all the information he would need on any player.

 

If the new regime are happy to let the team stagnate for a season because of the points deduction, then they should come out and say it, rather than let their inaction speak for them. Even if the plan is for steady progress for this season, then they need to get it going now, not when we are points adrift in a relegation battle, by which time it may well be too late.

 

What a record that woud be for Herr Lieberr, it even took Rupert nine years to achieve his first relegation.

 

With the way things have gone so far, will all of those calling for calm and patience, still be so calm on September the 1st, if we have only managed a couple of points and a cup exit from our first six fixtures and have perhaps lost our two experienced strikers, with only two more free transfers having been added to the squad?

 

It will be a crime if we aren't at least in the top ten of this division at the end of the season, anything less will be an abject failiure for a club our size, and will not have produced any progress, steady or otherwise.

 

 

Hmmm and come Sept 1st and we are on zero points and through the rounds of the cup will the lets rush and buy anyone with two feet brigade be so vocal.

 

Lets wait to see when a ball is kicked in anger. We have brought in two players and Pards has said he intends to bring in more.

 

I think we will end up in the top ten - that will make you happy will it?

[treggs23]

I thought he brought in more than that perhaps I was thinking of other clubs as well. Taylor was a ggod keeper and we have certainly had worse than Paul Jones. Todd was shocking and totally out of his depth - I guess Jones thought that he did a good job in a lower league and would raise his game or succeed for us , unfortunately it did not happen !!

 

Maybe you meant the season after, when 5 or 6 players signed and we got off to a horrific start...Mark Hughes was one, we had the others mentioned on a thread on here quite recently but can't remember any of them apart from Mark Paul...

[krissyboy31]

Maybe you meant the season after, when 5 or 6 players signed and we got off to a horrific start...Mark Hughes was one, we had the others mentioned on a thread on here quite recently but can't remember any of them apart from Mark Paul...

 

Howells, Beattie and Ripley. He did bring in Marsden though, I believe.

[Saint Lindford]

 

If the new regime are happy to let the team stagnate for a season because of the points deduction, then they should come out and say it, rather than let their inaction speak for them. Even if the plan is for steady progress for this season, then they need to get it going now, not when we are points adrift in a relegation battle, by which time it may well be too late.

 

 

I doubt very much that is the case. AP is on record as saying we need a couple more players to add strength and depth to the squad, that is hardly saying 'the new regime are happy to let the team stagnate for a season'.

 

What is the point of going out and buying/loaning any Tom, **** or Harry. They have to be better than we have already or it is a pointless exercise. I am sure targets have been identified and approached and there will be more additions before the end of the transfer window. The loan market continues after the end of this month as well so that also allows additions to be brought in if needed.

 

COYR

[Chez]

Are we really much weaker than last season?

 

GK = Same

RB = Improvement (Murty)

LB = Improvement (Harding)

CB = Perry & A N Other (same as last year, plus we are trying to sign a first choice CB)

CM = Same as last year, Wotton, Gillett, Spiderman, James (maybe) but accept Surman / McG going has probably weakened us a bit.

Wings = Surman is a loss, but all other personnel that regularly played are still here. Can't count Skacel as he wasn't bothered!!

Strikers = McG / BWP out, Rasiak / Saga still here so stronger assuming they want to play.

 

loanees JPS, Pearce and Cork need to be taken into account. Also, and more importantly we were bottom three most of the season before being easily relegated. Bottom of CCC does not mean one place better than top of League 1 in terms of ability to win games.

 

This squad needs a lot of improvement if we are to challenge.

[Paul Chuckle]

Howells, Beattie and Ripley. He did bring in Marsden though, I believe.

 

Scott Marshall CB from the Gooners on a free transfer

 

Scott Hiley also joined early that season on a free from Man City i think.

 

Marsden signed just before end of 98/99 season, think we had agreed a deal to sign Joey Beuchamp from Oxford but it feel through due to a problem with his back??????

[krissyboy31]

loanees JPS, Pearce and Cork need to be taken into account. Also, and more importantly we were bottom three most of the season before being easily relegated. Bottom of CCC does not mean one place better than top of League 1 in terms of ability to win games.

 

This squad needs a lot of improvement if we are to challenge.

 

I agree with that but I don't see that JPS or Pearce were better players than Thomas. Keeping him fit is going to be the problem.

[Chez]

I agree with that but I don't see that JPS or Pearce were better players than Thomas. Keeping him fit is going to be the problem.

 

I actually don't rate Thomas much. Possibly the worst million pound defender ever. JPS was terrific for us and he would be a tremendous player at this level. You said it yourself though. Thomas is injured, so no matter how good he is when he plays, as it stands we are weaker at CB than we were last season.

[RedAndWhite91]

I agree with that but I don't see that JPS or Pearce were better players than Thomas. Keeping him fit is going to be the problem.

 

Alex Pearce has just been made Vice-Captain of Reading.

[Wes Tender]

Just because he may be eligible to apply for residency, doesn't mean that he has to nor wants to. I may go work abroad but it doesn't mean I have any wish or intention of becoming a resident of that country. He is probably, given the fact that he has played for his country on many, many occasions, a very patriotic guy and taking residency in a foreign country maybe seen by him as unpatriotic.

 

Why would having an Indefinite Leave to Remain Visa make him feel unpatriotic? It isn't as if he would have to give up his Tunisian Passport. Even if he applied for British Citizenship, people are surely capable of having dual nationality without feeling a sense of betrayal towards their mother country.

[NickG]

I do NOT believe that "everyone is lying"

 

Instead of slagging me off, let me know your take on it then ....

 

WHY would Jaidi's agent tout him around, knowing that WITHOUT having a work permit, HE CAN'T PLAY

 

That's normal Agent practice is it .... I say it's a load of Bull

 

" stedy progress", "consolidation" .... GREAT WORDS ... but you STILL need a COMPETITIVE TEAM for that to happen

 

Others on here have said that we start against Millwall with a Team WEAKER than the one we had last season .... so I am not alone in thinking as I do

 

I'll say it again, IMHO, I do not believe the Jaidi scenario as it has been put across by SFC .... It really does not make any sense

 

typical team last season (QPR game picked at random)

KD

James

 

Lancashire

Cork

 

Surman

 

Wooton

Holmes

Gillett

Schneiderlin

 

Lallana

DMG

 

so we have better LB, RB, CB, CB and forward and same elsewhere.

 

You are wrong then

[krissyboy31]

Alex Pearce has just been made Vice-Captain of Reading.

 

That may be true but he was no better than okay for us.

Edited 7 August, 2009 by krissyboy31

[Glasgow_Saint]

typical team last season (QPR game picked at random)

KD

James

 

Lancashire Thomas has not played a competitive gamen for nearly a year

Cork Cork is better than Perry

 

Surman Surman is better than Harding

 

Wooton awful

Holmes Sick Note

Gillett

Schneiderlin One or two half decent games

 

Lallana Saga doesnt even want to be here

DMG DMG better than Patterson

 

so we have better LB, RB, CB, CB and forward and same elsewhere.

 

You are wrong then

 

You're wrong

[krissyboy31]

You're wrong

 

Cork and Surman are better players than Perry and Harding but not in those positions.

[NickG]

only seen Harding once - but he played better than I ever saw Surman as LB - you are wrong.

 

Thomas is better than Lancashire - he is playing - no contest. you are wrong.

Don't think Cork is as good as Perry as CB - he will be but not yet.

Bet wooton played more last season than he will this year - so you are right we have improved again.

 

Pretty convincing improvements - before you add better management and scouting

 

and playing in lower league with unified (apart from you) support

[NickG]

Cork and Surman are better players than Perry and Harding but not in those positions.

 

agree - we are much much better balanced already

[greg_hill]

If you think what I say comes under the heading of "conspiracy" then I must be guilty of treason then !!!!!!

 

I asked ""WHY would Jaidi's agent tout him around, knowing that WITHOUT having a work permit, HE CAN'T PLAY That's normal Agent practice is it .... I say it's a load of Bull ""

 

So, you are impying that the agent went all the way through with negotiations etc etc, then casually said, "Oh by the way, my client no longer has a work permit" ......... First agent that I am a ware of that acts on behalf of his client like that

 

Bit like saying " Can I ride in the National ? " ... "Yes " .... "Oh good, I'll just nip out and get a horse then "

 

I can't follow your logic at all. It's a well known fact that a player has to re-apply for a work permit if he changes club. So anyone who is in a position to make an offer for a professional player would be aware of this. The agent would not need to tell people the situation, they would already know how it works.

[PokingFun]

loanees JPS, Pearce and Cork need to be taken into account. Also, and more importantly we were bottom three most of the season before being easily relegated. Bottom of CCC does not mean one place better than top of League 1 in terms of ability to win games.

 

This squad needs a lot of improvement if we are to challenge.

 

The question was not to 'challenge' it was to be 'competitive' at this stage of the season.

 

I'm not naive to think that we will be good enough for promotion with the current team but on the same token we will not be cannon fodder either give the much lower standard.

[Glasgow_Saint]

only seen Harding once - but he played better than I ever saw Surman as LB - you are wrong.

 

Thomas is better than Lancashire - he is playing - no contest. you are wrong.

Don't think Cork is as good as Perry as CB - he will be but not yet.

Bet wooton played more last season than he will this year - so you are right we have improved again.

 

Pretty convincing improvements - before you add better management and scouting

 

and playing in lower league with unified (apart from you) support

 

It would be good (just to prove my point) that we play all season with this "better" team and see where we finish.....It would break my heart to say I told you so...

 

Thankfully AP shares my ambition and will bring in better players before long.

[NickG]

only seen Harding once - but he played better than I ever saw Surman as LB - you are wrong.

 

Thomas is better than Lancashire - he is playing - no contest. you are wrong.

Don't think Cork is as good as Perry as CB - he will be but not yet.

Bet wooton played more last season than he will this year - so you are right we have improved again.

 

Pretty convincing improvements - before you add better management and scouting

 

and playing in lower league with unified (apart from you) support

 

It would be good (just to prove my point) that we play all season with this "better" team and see where we finish.....It would break my heart to say I told you so...

 

Thankfully AP shares my ambition and will bring in better players before long.

 

Do you go to games?

Just wonder how anyone who went last season and has already seen Murty/ Harding this season - can not say the addition of two decent fullbacks, and replacing Lancashire with Thomas, and adding Saga/Rasiak to no just DMG last season - is an improvement????:confused:

[madruss]

only seen Harding once - but he played better than I ever saw Surman as LB - you are wrong.

 

Thomas is better than Lancashire - he is playing - no contest. you are wrong.

Don't think Cork is as good as Perry as CB - he will be but not yet.

Bet wooton played more last season than he will this year - so you are right we have improved again.

 

Pretty convincing improvements - before you add better management and scouting

 

and playing in lower league with unified (apart from you) support

 

Exactly!! People seem to be missing this point. We have a manager who has managed (successfully) in the top flight of English football.

 

Last season we had a manager who had managed in the troughs of Dutch football with limited success.

 

If that's not a major improvement, then I don't know what is!!

[NickG]

think OBS is still surprised we haven't got Ashley Cole yet and only got Harding!

[Glasgow_Saint]

think OBS is still surprised we haven't got Ashley Cole yet and only got Harding!

 

yes I am shocked

[NickG]

yes I am shocked

 

sorry, that was never going to happen, you have to understand our team and attracting the right players more - maybe when we get back to prem our owner will go for big names but at the moment these are ideal signings.

 

Do you watch Saints?

[Glasgow_Saint]

sorry, that was never going to happen, you have to understand our team and attracting the right players more - maybe when we get back to prem our owner will go for big names but at the moment these are ideal signings.

 

 

 

Do you watch Saints?

 

I have no grumble about the players signed thus far - I agree they are ideal (we needed better fullbacks) especially after losing Surman. What I worry about is the delay in signing a CB and decent midfielder and a striker. The team is A) Not good enough B) Thread bare C) Full of injury proned players D) Containing players that want out E) Missing players already injured. We therefore need more than the 2 bought in. Season starts tomorrow not end of Aug.

 

Oh and do I watch Saints? Yes

[NickG]

Millwall are division favorite.

Do not have fit defender.

Not managed to complete their desired signings.

 

We have a very good back four available tomorrow.

 

Hope you enjoy tomorrow - I'm really looking forward to it

[Verbal]

I have no grumble about the players signed thus far - I agree they are ideal (we needed better fullbacks) especially after losing Surman. What I worry about is the delay in signing a CB and decent midfielder and a striker. The team is A) Not good enough B) Thread bare C) Full of injury proned players D) Containing players that want out E) Missing players already injured. We therefore need more than the 2 bought in. Season starts tomorrow not end of Aug.

 

Oh and do I watch Saints? Yes

 

Good grief, OBS.

 

Since we're asking questions, what state are you going to be in if Millwall.. (and I hesitate to say this for fear of causing you psychological damage)... win?

 

Judging from the above, you'll be posting at a pitch that only dogs can hear.

[Glasgow_Saint]

Good grief, OBS.

 

Since we're asking questions, what state are you going to be in if Millwall.. (and I hesitate to say this for fear of causing you psychological damage)... win?

 

Judging from the above, you'll be posting at a pitch that only dogs can hear.

 

A Millwall win will only highlight our weaknesses.

[NickG]

a win for league favorites shows a manager just appointed is failing? ffs.

 

so we win and all is ok?

[S-Clarke]

a win for league favorites shows a manager just appointed is failing? ffs.

 

so we win and all is ok?

 

Nick, where did he say it would mean the manager is failing?

 

It's true what he said - it would highlight our current weaknesses. we've got a good base of a team - but with 1 or 2 injuries we're screwed. AP has confirmed that.

 

If we win - great, but it doesn't mean that we still don't need to strengthen!

 

I have all the confidence in AP and the fact we will buy the right players - but at the mo, we're a little short.

[Glasgow_Saint]

a win for league favorites shows a manager just appointed is failing? ffs.

 

so we win and all is ok?

 

You do like to twist things NickG. All I said was a defeat (at home) to Millwall will highlight our current weaknesses. By this I mean quality in team!

 

Where do I suggest anything about the manager?

 

I am happy to debate and respect your opinion, just please try and keep on track and don't read to much into things (or make crap up).

 

You have been telling me all week how good our starting 11 is - now suddenly you are calling Millwall the favourites (haha) to win the league......are you getting your excuses ready already?

[Guest Dark Sotonic Mills]

For heaven's sake OBS, you cant turn an adjective into a verb like that...:mad:

[NickG]

You do like to twist things NickG. All I said was a defeat (at home) to Millwall will highlight our current weaknesses. By this I mean quality in team!

 

Where do I suggest anything about the manager?

 

I am happy to debate and respect your opinion, just please try and keep on track and don't read to much into things (or make crap up).

 

You have been telling me all week how good our starting 11 is - now suddenly you are calling Millwall the favourites (haha) to win the league......are you getting your excuses ready already?

 

you have continually suggest he is failing all week. Its not made up.

 

I don't think our team is good enough - yet - but think it is progressing well and lilely to get better.

 

I think our team is better than last seasons and although relegated were not totally disgraced.

 

I have no need to make excuses -why would I?

 

Millwall are some pundits favorite for the league - I don't know enough about the league to say - just it will be lower standard than the one we were in with worse team and manager last season. - Could easily find links if you are getting precious about it?

[NickG]

It's true what he said - it would highlight our current weaknesses. we've got a good base of a team - but with 1 or 2 injuries we're screwed. AP has confirmed that.

 

If we win - great, but it doesn't mean that we still don't need to strengthen!

 

I have all the confidence in AP and the fact we will buy the right players - but at the mo, we're a little short.

 

agree with all of that.

[Saints Pedro]

FFS Everyone agrees we need to strenghten but please just leave it to AP to buy/loan as and when he can. If he says he is happy with the squad and you still disagree with the quality then by all means raise your concerns but give the bloke a chance! For what it's worth I wouild argue that we are stronger overall especially if you take into account our financial position the lack of divisive board members and the management team. Also the 'kids' are a year older and stronger with first experience behind them. Don't forget you can be positive without being a 'happy clappy'. If you only look for the negatives that's all you'll find.