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This really is a bloody good signing I have to say - we've needed a big blick brute at the back for like 2 years now.

 

NOW

 

SAINTS

 

LISTEN

 

pleeeeeease don't rest on your laurels - we now need another centre-back - this time a faster, more athletic type, to compliment Jaidi and mark those bags of pace you get up front whilst Jaidi can be free to mark target men and rush forward and bash any aerial threats away and not be worried about whether he's covered or not.

 

do this, and we are ****ing SORTED at the back. PLEAAAAASE don't do half-measures like we always do

 

we haven't officially got Jaidee yet lol!

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I think it is rather pathetic that we are all (I include myself here) sweating on a soon to be 34 year old signing on a free transfer.

 

Dont get me wrong I am very grateful that I still have a club to support but we have hardly exploded out of the traps.

 

Lot of sense in proceeding cautiously and all that but it would have been nice if Mr Liebherr could have least given us (and the club) one shot up the arse, or something to get a little excited about.

 

So far we have the arrival of Andy Oldknow (who comes with baggage - even he will have to admit), a Chairman called Nicola who surely can't know his way around professional football with a background in Swiss banking/corporate sports and the unpalatable fact that David Jones is still a director.

 

I know I should bow and scrape and be eternally grateful because my club has been saved but was just wondering how much longer we are expected to be so subserviant?

 

Flame away I am sure. :)

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I think it is rather pathetic that we are all (I include myself here) sweating on a soon to be 34 year old signing on a free transfer.

 

Dont get me wrong I am very grateful that I still have a club to support but we have hardly exploded out of the traps.

 

Lot of sense in proceeding cautiously and all that but it would have been nice if Mr Liebherr could have least given us (and the club) one shot up the arse, or something to get a little excited about.

 

So far we have the arrival of Andy Oldknow (who comes with baggage - even he will have to admit), a Chairman called Nicola who surely can't know his way around professional football with a background in Swiss banking/corporate sports and the unpalatable fact that David Jones is still a director.

 

I know I should bow and scrape and be eternally grateful because my club has been saved but was just wondering how much longer we are expected to be so subserviant?

 

Flame away I am sure. :)

 

Duncan you seem to have been quite negative since the takeover. What exactly did you want?

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I think it is rather pathetic that we are all (I include myself here) sweating on a soon to be 34 year old signing on a free transfer.

 

Dont get me wrong I am very grateful that I still have a club to support but we have hardly exploded out of the traps.

 

Lot of sense in proceeding cautiously and all that but it would have been nice if Mr Liebherr could have least given us (and the club) one shot up the arse, or something to get a little excited about.

 

So far we have the arrival of Andy Oldknow (who comes with baggage - even he will have to admit), a Chairman called Nicola who surely can't know his way around professional football with a background in Swiss banking/corporate sports and the unpalatable fact that David Jones is still a director.

 

I know I should bow and scrape and be eternally grateful because my club has been saved but was just wondering how much longer we are expected to be so subserviant?

 

Flame away I am sure. :)

 

I agree -underwhelming so far - but I am told that I should be eternally grateful to all concerned. I thought by now Markus would have explained his vision in the form of an interview or via Nicola Cortese.

 

If silence/slow measured progress is the way forward then I hope I am suitably impressed on Saturday.

 

COYR

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To be fair, the transfer window hasn't ended yet! if we start poorly, they seem like the men to act quickly! Think we are being melodramatic!! I am still chuffed to be honest

 

Agreed.

 

Makes more sense acting in this way at the moment, rather than signing a ''big name player'' for a ''big fee'' just to appease the fans.

 

These guys don't work like that - which is why they're successful individuals. They build the blocks from the base and work upwards towards success. It may not always look as ''rapid'' as we want as fans, but i think we can be very positive for what the future holds.

 

If the ''foundation'' is laid correctly, then success will always follow.

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Duncan you seem to have been quite negative since the takeover. What exactly did you want?

 

He wanted MJ to win the race of course :cool:

 

Jaidi - this is fantatsic, everything is new but for those Little Englanders who hate change - don't you feel good that we have a NEW Rudi Skacel signing moment!

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Grief! And you people complained every time Rupert made a TV appearance! Now you complain Marcus or Nicola never do. Now we are even commenting on Nicola's name as not being suitable. What next I wonder ...

 

Mind you, TBH going from a Rupert in charge to a Nicola is hard to take unless you're a true Metroman of the modern era

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Duncan you seem to have been quite negative since the takeover. What exactly did you want?

 

No I'm not negative but at the same time I am not going to join in the "ML saved us therefore he is a God" brigade. He picked up a bargain for £12m - I don't think he is losing any sleep tonight about his investment.

 

Andy Oldnow was reviled on here for certain actions when he was part of the old regime (and to all those who are saying this is a fresh start - not true AO was part of the previous exec regime which left us staring at admin) so let's be honest do any of us feel 100% sure we are in the right hands?

 

I just feel quite sad that tonight we are sweating on a 34 year joining us on a freebie - we either want him or we don't but it looks as if we are still dabbling in the basement bargains.

 

Are we all happy to be slaves to the new regime?

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No I'm not negative but at the same time I am not going to join in the "ML saved us therefore he is a God" brigade. He picked up a bargain for £12m - I don't think he is losing any sleep tonight about his investment.

 

Andy Oldnow was reviled on here for certain actions when he was part of the old regime (and to all those who are saying this is a fresh start - not true AO was part of the previous exec regime which left us staring at admin) so let's be honest do any of us feel 100% sure we are in the right hands?

 

I just feel quite sad that tonight we are sweating on a 34 year joining us on a freebie - we either want him or we don't but it looks as if we are still dabbling in the basement bargains.

 

Are we all happy to be slaves to the new regime?

 

Are you saying he wont sign until his next birthday? August 30th?

 

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No I'm not negative but at the same time I am not going to join in the "ML saved us therefore he is a God" brigade. He picked up a bargain for £12m - I don't think he is losing any sleep tonight about his investment.

 

Andy Oldnow was reviled on here for certain actions when he was part of the old regime (and to all those who are saying this is a fresh start - not true AO was part of the previous exec regime which left us staring at admin) so let's be honest do any of us feel 100% sure we are in the right hands?

 

I just feel quite sad that tonight we are sweating on a 34 year joining us on a freebie - we either want him or we don't but it looks as if we are still dabbling in the basement bargains.

 

Are we all happy to be slaves to the new regime?

 

 

Unless they are completely daft, the new regime know that its unlikely that we will get out of L1 this years, with -10 and a mediocre squad as of now.

Therefore cautious team building makes sense, to give us the best possible chance next season, and possibly a stab at it this season.As others have pointed out, they are also building top down-Pardew may not be everybodies favourite, but he counts as a really big name in L1.

 

FF is right that we are now subject to the whim of an owner- something that the fans would do well to contemplate .

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No I'm not negative but at the same time I am not going to join in the "ML saved us therefore he is a God" brigade. He picked up a bargain for £12m - I don't think he is losing any sleep tonight about his investment.

 

Andy Oldnow was reviled on here for certain actions when he was part of the old regime (and to all those who are saying this is a fresh start - not true AO was part of the previous exec regime which left us staring at admin) so let's be honest do any of us feel 100% sure we are in the right hands?

 

I just feel quite sad that tonight we are sweating on a 34 year joining us on a freebie - we either want him or we don't but it looks as if we are still dabbling in the basement bargains.

 

Are we all happy to be slaves to the new regime?

 

Not many clubs(if any at all!) in League One could afford Graeme Murty, Dan Harding and Raidi Jaidi's wages and signing on fees. All are established Championship players. Free transfer doesn't mean there are no costs! Every club in this league would love to have got those three players.

 

Mr Liebherr has also allowed us to stop Kelvin Davis going to the Premiership and kept Joseph Mills at the club and allowed us to at the very least offer Stern John a contract(ok he rejected but we have the finance to consider keeping him - no one else in this league could).

 

Finally Alan Pardew has by far the best CV and highest profile of any manager in League One.

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No I'm not negative but at the same time I am not going to join in the "ML saved us therefore he is a God" brigade. He picked up a bargain for £12m - I don't think he is losing any sleep tonight about his investment.

 

Andy Oldnow was reviled on here for certain actions when he was part of the old regime (and to all those who are saying this is a fresh start - not true AO was part of the previous exec regime which left us staring at admin) so let's be honest do any of us feel 100% sure we are in the right hands?

 

I just feel quite sad that tonight we are sweating on a 34 year joining us on a freebie - we either want him or we don't but it looks as if we are still dabbling in the basement bargains.

 

Are we all happy to be slaves to the new regime?

 

Only if the club progresses up the Leagues.

 

As for the AO issues - only relevant to a small band of obsessives who get too involved in these things for their own good. Did he call you an arsehole on the phone or something?

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and attracted Pardew

 

Nearly forgot that. So added it at the end cheers :D

 

Anyone that thinks Mr Liebherr hasn't shown any "intent" yet is just wrong.

 

For a League One side they have made a firm inprint already with those 3 signings and Pardew. Those are 4 of the biggest moves in League One so far. Thats what you should base it on League One movement, not Championship or Premiership because we are not there (yet).

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The reason we aren't spending money is because

 

SHOCK HORROR!

 

a player worth 1/2 million isn't going to play in bloody league 1!!!

 

its bloody simple

 

We are spending money. Established Championship players like Murty, Jaidi and Harding don't come cheap. They will be on big wages and signing on fees relative to League One. Established Prem/Championship managers like Pardew and his backroom staff don't come cheap. Keeping Kelvin Davis in League One rather than the Premiership doesn't come cheap. Nor does offering Stern John a contract. NO other League One side could compete with us to get all four of them and most would love to have them.

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No I'm not negative but at the same time I am not going to join in the "ML saved us therefore he is a God" brigade. He picked up a bargain for £12m - I don't think he is losing any sleep tonight about his investment.

 

Andy Oldnow was reviled on here for certain actions when he was part of the old regime (and to all those who are saying this is a fresh start - not true AO was part of the previous exec regime which left us staring at admin) so let's be honest do any of us feel 100% sure we are in the right hands?

 

I just feel quite sad that tonight we are sweating on a 34 year joining us on a freebie - we either want him or we don't but it looks as if we are still dabbling in the basement bargains.

 

Are we all happy to be slaves to the new regime?[/quote

 

£12 mill still does represent an outlay by ML which it is going to take an awful long time for him to recoup. He will probably be continuing to have to fork out regularly since we will continue to be running at a loss, I'm sure, despite having no mortgage and bank loans to service.

 

My feeling is that he has put AP on trial. He wants to see how successfully the footballing side of the business can develop on limited resources. If AP is seen to be making progress, as I am sure he will, then we will probably see a loosening of the purse strings. The big spending will be in the following season for the promotion push. That's just my gut feeling.

 

Meanwhile Murty promises to be a charismatic leader which we need right now. And if we get an experienced Centre Back we will have done well. They are gold dust these days.

 

As for age, I don't think that is an issue this season.

 

I can well remember how Ted Bates brought in an ageing Don Roper from Arsenal last time we were in the third tier. And boy, how brilliantly did his example and footballing skills inspire the youngsters, Terry Paine and John Sydenham then!!!

 

No, it is so obvious for all to see, experience is what we so desperately need right now.

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No I'm not negative but at the same time I am not going to join in the "ML saved us therefore he is a God" brigade. He picked up a bargain for £12m - I don't think he is losing any sleep tonight about his investment.

 

Andy Oldnow was reviled on here for certain actions when he was part of the old regime (and to all those who are saying this is a fresh start - not true AO was part of the previous exec regime which left us staring at admin) so let's be honest do any of us feel 100% sure we are in the right hands?

 

I just feel quite sad that tonight we are sweating on a 34 year joining us on a freebie - we either want him or we don't but it looks as if we are still dabbling in the basement bargains.

 

Are we all happy to be slaves to the new regime?

 

I’m not sure who you think is in that brigade of yours. I’d have thought there was a rough consensus on here – of which you’re clearly not a part – that says something like: saving the club deserves being given the benefit of the doubt – and certainly before a football has been kicked in anger. I hardly see how this makes anyone on here ‘slaves to the new regime’. Fans as a whole can be cussedly difficult to please.

 

I worry that what you appear to want from ML are some big-ticket footballers being brought in at fees and wages that suggest that we, in some sense, ‘mean business’ (a dubious term, in this context at least).

 

If Pardew doesn’t have a plan beyond bringing in one or two ageing freebies, it’ll quickly be shown up. But it hardly seems likely, does it? He has, after all, been fairly explicit about what he intends to do over the next five years.

 

So, quite apart from our experience the last time we tried the brilliant idea of spending like there’s no tomorrow, I have to ask why you’re not prepared to hang fire at least until the season gets underway.

 

I seem to recall that you leaked on TSF quite often about AO during the dark days of the executives’ coup. And I grant you, if half of what you said at the time is still true, there are some causes for concern. But it can also look as if you have a bit of a personal agenda here.

 

So as far as AO is concerned – as well as the team and Pardew’s management of it – isn’t it better to wait just a little longer? At least let's get Millwall out of the way first before manning the siege towers.

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enjoy what is happening ff,we are lucky we still have a club.we are in some ways starting from scratch.lg1 doesnt attract too many top players and the ones we have so far, i say ,fair play to them.saints are probably one of maybe 3 clubs in this div that can attract a better player.theres a long journey ahead and it may take awhile,but saints i think are in the right hands.enjoy millwall,coyr

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Sorry guys and girls I am bewildered by this.

 

He has deffinately trained from my source.

 

But my source has no idea why it wasnt announced.

 

I spoke to someone earlier who was similarly bemused as to why nothing has been announced. Apparently they've already done the obligatory shirt-wearing photoshoot and interview.

Tomorrow morning, praps?

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I think it is rather pathetic that we are all (I include myself here) sweating on a soon to be 34 year old signing on a free transfer.

 

Dont get me wrong I am very grateful that I still have a club to support but we have hardly exploded out of the traps.

 

Lot of sense in proceeding cautiously and all that but it would have been nice if Mr Liebherr could have least given us (and the club) one shot up the arse, or something to get a little excited about.

 

So far we have the arrival of Andy Oldknow (who comes with baggage - even he will have to admit), a Chairman called Nicola who surely can't know his way around professional football with a background in Swiss banking/corporate sports and the unpalatable fact that David Jones is still a director.

 

I know I should bow and scrape and be eternally grateful because my club has been saved but was just wondering how much longer we are expected to be so subserviant?

 

Flame away I am sure. :)

 

What is it with you and being so bloody negative about this whole situation. I just don't get it, I really don't.

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No I'm not negative but at the same time I am not going to join in the "ML saved us therefore he is a God" brigade. He picked up a bargain for £12m - I don't think he is losing any sleep tonight about his investment.

 

Couldn't care less. I'm not going to worry about why he bought us. The fact is he did. He wiped the debt and has a plan to get us back into the Premiership whilst not loading us with debt. That's all I ever wanted.

 

Andy Oldnow was reviled on here for certain actions when he was part of the old regime (and to all those who are saying this is a fresh start - not true AO was part of the previous exec regime which left us staring at admin) so let's be honest do any of us feel 100% sure we are in the right hands?

 

I've had absolutely no indication that we are in the wrong hands thus far. Oldknow has done nothing to criticise as yet. I'm happy to let them get on with it. Besides, what club is 100% sure they are in the right hands? In my mind we are a million miles better off now than we were last year. I'm loving it.

 

I just feel quite sad that tonight we are sweating on a 34 year joining us on a freebie - we either want him or we don't but it looks as if we are still dabbling in the basement bargains.

 

TBH you don't know the reasons for the delay. Even if there is a delay does it really matter as long as he signs before Saturday? I for one think he would be a fantastic signing and perfect for what we need. The Brum fans really wanted to keep him around in the Prem so clearly he is a decent player. Was it not you that said that ML would make funds available? I mean WTF do you want Duncan? The alternative was the likes of Jackson and co.

 

Are we all happy to be slaves to the new regime?

 

That's just nonsense.

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The reason we aren't spending money is because

 

SHOCK HORROR!

 

a player worth 1/2 million isn't going to play in bloody league 1!!!

 

its bloody simple

 

Agree! players worth their salt will be at Championship level or better! We are cutting our cloth accordingly!

 

A decent defensive line with experience is a must. If we can snaffle a decent 25 goal a year striker a la Beckford, then we are in for a good season.

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No I'm not negative but at the same time I am not going to join in the "ML saved us therefore he is a God" brigade. He picked up a bargain for £12m - I don't think he is losing any sleep tonight about his investment.

 

Andy Oldnow was reviled on here for certain actions when he was part of the old regime (and to all those who are saying this is a fresh start - not true AO was part of the previous exec regime which left us staring at admin) so let's be honest do any of us feel 100% sure we are in the right hands?

 

I just feel quite sad that tonight we are sweating on a 34 year joining us on a freebie - we either want him or we don't but it looks as if we are still dabbling in the basement bargains.

 

Are we all happy to be slaves to the new regime?

 

 

One of the first things ML delivered to us was Alan Pardew- a proven and capable manager of the type we have been missing for some years ( Apart from Pearson perhaps).

Added to that has come an assistant of proven experience at this level ( Wilkins) so ML has really invested and recruited well on the managerial/Coaching side.

We sure as hell would not have had them under old regimes at this level!

 

More importantly we have stability, purpose, realistic vision and sound decision making going on at board level for the first time in god knows how many years.

 

OK for now we have only signed Murty and Harding, but the re-signing of Kelvin was also in my book a real coup and felt like a big name signing..CCC players are hardly likely to rush to a L1 club unless options at a higher level are not there. You might argue we could pay them CCC wages but why on earth do that to get dubious commitment and quality. Euell, Skacel, Saga for instance.. We have a lamentable recent history for overpaying for underperfoming players...

 

ML is doing it absolutely right - Build steadily under a very good coaching set up along an achievable timeline.

 

No ones falling at his feet, but the overwhelming majority are not only thankful he is here, but are loving the common sense and stability his leadership is bringing.

We sure would not have had that with "The Three Amigos" or The "Hone Mob".

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One of the first things ML delivered to us was Alan Pardew- a proven and capable manager of the type we have been missing for some years ( Apart from Pearson perhaps).

Added to that has come an assistant of proven experience at this level ( Wilkins) so ML has really invested and recruited well on the managerial/Coaching side.

We sure as hell would not have had them under old regimes at this level!

 

More importantly we have stability, purpose, realistic vision and sound decision making going on at board level for the first time in god knows how many years.

 

OK for now we have only signed Murty and Harding, but CCC players are hardly likely to rush to a L1 club unless options at a higher level are not there. You might argue we could pay them CCC wages but why on earth do that to get dubious commitment and quality. Euell, Skacel, Saga for instance.. We have a lamentable recent history for overpaying for underperfoming players...

 

ML is doing it absolutely right - Build steadily under a very good coaching set up along an achievable timeline.

 

No ones falling at his feet, but the overwhelming majority are not only thankful he is here, but are loving the common sense and stability his leadership is bringing.

 

I actually think we have some cracking players here, a bit of confidence and some actual coaching and we will see the best of them this year, I am sure!

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Fitzhugh -did you not get a good feeling at Ajax game? Go with it.

 

Don't you worry about me Nick - sometimes I have trouble comparing the past to the present. My fault I know, I have got to stay with the times but, as I as logged on here last night for the umpteenth time to see if we had picked up a 34 year old on a freebie, it suddenly hit me how low we had sunk.

 

Feel better after a good nights sleep :)

 

Incidentally has he signed yet? We are going to need him - in this morning's Guardian there was a piece on Div 1 which predicted Millwall would go up as Champions!!

 

They were kind enough to say we could make the play-offs!

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Surely we are just waiting on a work permit now??? im sure if a championship club were to make a move, they would of done it by now. In order to get a work permit someone has to go to London to sort it out etc, maybe this was done yesterday.

I imagine the new regime are proefessional enough not to announce anything it is finalised.

Also makes you wonder whether the echo get told anything as not only did they get his Nationality wrong but they didn't seem to have anything to back up their story.

I think they have been shunned by the new regime

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More great reporting from the Echo. Apparently he has changed nationality to Turkish, during his negotiations with Saints'. FFS!!

I thought the fez was familiar.

*wipes off old and inaccurate joke and puts it back in deep freeze*

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Right, it would seem that Jaidi's agent is putting his client about a bit to get the best deal possible. Jaidi has been training with us and a contract has been agreed in principle, now it's up to Radhi to decide whether his future lies with us or not.

 

As I understand, he's holding out for more money, but I can't see Saints improving the contract offer on the table. Don't be surprised if a Championship side comes in for him and we miss out. The fact that he's stalling on signing a deal with us suggests he's not totally committed anyway so maybe it would be best to look at alternative targets.

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Right, it would seem that Jaidi's agent is putting his client about a bit to get the best deal possible. Jaidi has been training with us and a contract has been agreed in principle, now it's up to Radhi to decide whether his future lies with us or not.

 

As I understand, he's holding out for more money, but I can't see Saints improving the contract offer on the table. Don't be surprised if a Championship side comes in for him and we miss out. The fact that he's stalling on signing a deal with us suggests he's not totally committed anyway so maybe it would be best to look at alternative targets.

 

Thanks for the update Bailey.

 

I think NC and AP have to wake up to the fact that to entice players good enough to get us promotion they are going to have to top the going rate for this league.

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