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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/n/newcastle_united/8172664.stm

 

The german league does seem to have shown some much needed interest and life recently, with some real shake ups, decent players coming through and staying there for a time etc...

 

But I'm not quite sure Martins can even persuade the Deutschlanders that it will be the best league in the world soon. Based on what..? I know he's got to look keen and so on, but.. seems a bit of an excessive claim to me..?

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I used to enjoy watching the Bundesliga on Setanta - some real quality entertainment

 

As for Martins, I saw him play for Inter on 2 or 3 occasions & thought he looked a world beater

To say he's been a disappointment is an understatement

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Careless talk costs lives.

 

Seriously, though - I'm not besmirching the Bundesliga at all, it doesn't get the credit it should - but by most measures, can it compete with the Premiership, Serie A, la Liga? I wouldn't say so.

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Bundesliga can't compete with the Premiership, Serie A etc. for the amount of stepovers and other such bullsh*t, but for excitement it wins hands down. Wolfsburg winning it? That's the equivalent of Boro or Fulham putting a run together and ending up with the title.

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Not sure who I'd compare Wolfsburg to in this country really. While the fanbase is probably equivalent to a Boro or a Fulham, they also have the rather handy financial backing of Volkswagen.

 

Only three clubs in the Bundesliga aren't predominantly owned by their members - Bayer Leverkusen (owned by Bayer), Wolfsburg (VW) and Hoffenheim (rich benefactor who bankrolled promotion to the top flight for the first time last season... they were top at the mid-season break)

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Careless talk costs lives.

 

Seriously, though - I'm not besmirching the Bundesliga at all, it doesn't get the credit it should - but by most measures, can it compete with the Premiership, Serie A, la Liga? I wouldn't say so.

 

Afraid to say as a follower of Serie A that the Bundesliga are very close to overtaking Serie A in terms of Uefa Coeffiecient rankings & if the Serie A teams don't pick it up this season then next season expect to see 4 German teams in the CL & only 3 Italian.

 

Werder Bremen beat both Milan & Inter last season btw.

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Careless talk costs lives.

 

Seriously, though - I'm not besmirching the Bundesliga at all, it doesn't get the credit it should - but by most measures, can it compete with the Premiership, Serie A, la Liga? I wouldn't say so.

 

Great word

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I love the Bundesliga.

 

Genuinely competitive league, great entertainment ( any one doubting that should have watched the Bremen v Hamburg UEFA semi), the clubs are still engrained into the fabric of the local area hence great fan "buy in" and resulting big crowds !

 

And you can still drink beer on terraces ! :D

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