chrisobee Posted 29 July, 2009 Author Posted 29 July, 2009 It would be mystifying if we'd had a better spinner available. We didn't. Plus, the King of Spain wasn't all that bad. Darren Pattinson, yeah. Rumour at the time was that we picked him so that he couldn't play against us for Aus this summer. Wish he was! Well I guess that's as good a reason as any for one of the more baffling selections in Test match history !
chrisobee Posted 29 July, 2009 Author Posted 29 July, 2009 It's gonna get rained off anyways Yes, it does look rather wet! http://www.cricinfo.com/engvaus2009/content/image/416812.html
Crab Lungs Posted 29 July, 2009 Posted 29 July, 2009 Giles wasn't that bad?!?!?! Average of 40 with the ball in 54 tests taking 143 wickets, excuse me if I am wrong but that is shocking statistics. The only time Giles ever looked like taking a wicket was when he bowled the ball into the rough, apart from that his wickets generally included the batsman getting out rather than him getting them out. I always hate the argument that 'we didn't have a better a spinner', well if we didn't have a good enough spinner for test cricket don't have one in the side!!! Keedy, Croft?
Saintjersey Posted 29 July, 2009 Posted 29 July, 2009 Keedy, Croft? What about them? Keedy never played for England.
JustMike Posted 30 July, 2009 Posted 30 July, 2009 aussie media suggests that watson will replace hughes, as was the noise coming from them shortly after the last test.
Saintjersey Posted 30 July, 2009 Posted 30 July, 2009 aussie media suggests that watson will replace hughes, as was the noise coming from them shortly after the last test. With Johnson staying in the side it would look like.
keithd Posted 30 July, 2009 Posted 30 July, 2009 i cant believe they are still not going with Clarke (or are they?) he's got a track record for taking wickets in this country, bowls well in the conditions. is ponting obsessed with the fact johnson is ranked 3rd in the world, and wont back down? odd
Saintjersey Posted 30 July, 2009 Posted 30 July, 2009 i cant believe they are still not going with Clarke (or are they?) he's got a track record for taking wickets in this country, bowls well in the conditions. is ponting obsessed with the fact johnson is ranked 3rd in the world, and wont back down? odd Isn't Clark ranked pretty high anyway? I know it's very stupid especially as he was their leading wicket taker in the last Ashes, but means it good news for us.
bungle Posted 30 July, 2009 Posted 30 July, 2009 i cant believe they are still not going with Clarke (or are they?) he's got a track record for taking wickets in this country, bowls well in the conditions. is ponting obsessed with the fact johnson is ranked 3rd in the world, and wont back down? odd You mean Clark, not Clarke, I assume?
Hatch Posted 30 July, 2009 Posted 30 July, 2009 Do they still name teams and have the toss at the same time even though there may be a delayed start? Need to know for Fantasy cricket transfer reasons.
Saintjersey Posted 30 July, 2009 Posted 30 July, 2009 Do they still name teams and have the toss at the same time even though there may be a delayed start? Need to know for Fantasy cricket transfer reasons. It's up to the team, they can name them from whenever, but it seems like both will be named at the toss.
keithd Posted 30 July, 2009 Posted 30 July, 2009 You mean Clark, not Clarke, I assume? ah yes, the chappie who played for us last season. took about 15 wickets in 5 twenty20 (or FP) games. stupid average - about 15 - too if i recall correctly
Hatch Posted 30 July, 2009 Posted 30 July, 2009 It's up to the team, they can name them from whenever, but it seems like both will be named at the toss. I meant , will it be at 10.30ish , like it normally is. Or if rain delays until 4 oclock, can they delay naming the team until 3.30
saintwarwick Posted 30 July, 2009 Posted 30 July, 2009 ah yes, the chappie who played for us last season. took about 15 wickets in 5 twenty20 (or FP) games. stupid average - about 15 - too if i recall correctly They have both played for us in the past.
bungle Posted 30 July, 2009 Posted 30 July, 2009 I meant , will it be at 10.30ish , like it normally is. Or if rain delays until 4 oclock, can they delay naming the team until 3.30 They can delay naming the team.
Saintjersey Posted 30 July, 2009 Posted 30 July, 2009 I meant , will it be at 10.30ish , like it normally is. Or if rain delays until 4 oclock, can they delay naming the team until 3.30 If it's rain delayed they can hold out naming the team until play eventually starts.
saintwarwick Posted 30 July, 2009 Posted 30 July, 2009 I meant , will it be at 10.30ish , like it normally is. Or if rain delays until 4 oclock, can they delay naming the team until 3.30 I thought the toss had to be before the start of the game regardless of the weather which means the teams have already been announced.
saintwarwick Posted 30 July, 2009 Posted 30 July, 2009 They can delay naming the team. If it's rain delayed they can hold out naming the team until play eventually starts. Guess I am wrong then.
Saintjersey Posted 30 July, 2009 Posted 30 July, 2009 I thought the toss had to be before the start of the game regardless of the weather which means the teams have already been announced. I'm not 100% sure when the toss has to happen, but I know for certain if there is a delay you don't have to announce your team until play actually starts.
chrisobee Posted 30 July, 2009 Author Posted 30 July, 2009 (edited) I'm not 100% sure when the toss has to happen, but I know for certain if there is a delay you don't have to announce your team until play actually starts. Well you certainly do have to name your team before the toss and obviously the toss is before the game and it follows that you name your team before the toss and the game. Clear I hope From Cricinfo a few minures ago: The rain is still falling at Edgbaston, so there has been no toss, nor any news of a time for the toss. Sorry folks, but that's the way it is. And the teams don't need to be confirmed until the toss. So that's why we haven't any official starting XIs yet. Edited 30 July, 2009 by chrisobee Trying to make this seem sensible !
chrisobee Posted 30 July, 2009 Author Posted 30 July, 2009 Start us definitely delayed, from Cric info: http://www.cricinfo.com/engvaus2009/engine/current/match/345972.html " buckets of rain have dumped themselves rudely over Edgbaston and poor Steve Rouse's head. The head groundsman and his team have been working through the night in their wellies and, unexpectedly, we're in for a bit of a delay." Seems Watson will open and Johnson is going to play but as 1st change.
chrisobee Posted 30 July, 2009 Author Posted 30 July, 2009 (edited) Ah well I'll take a chance Clark is not playing ( cannot believe why ) and go with: AJ Strauss, JM Anderson,, SCJ Broad, PD Collingwood, A Flintoff, RT Ponting, MJ Clarke, BJ Haddin†, BW Hilfenhaus, SM Katich, P Siddle Edited 30 July, 2009 by chrisobee
chrisobee Posted 30 July, 2009 Author Posted 30 July, 2009 Oops meant to post this on the Fantasy Ashes game thread !
Iowsaintsfan Posted 30 July, 2009 Posted 30 July, 2009 Personally id drop Flintoff for this test, the weather is gunna be poor at best all weekend, the soft ground wont help his knee and id rather have a fresh Flintoff running in in the 4th test where we might get a win other than an almost certain draw. Play Harmy instead and give him a moral boost, and it will make Broad etc feel the pressure that Harmy is knocking on the door and make them perform better IF Harmy bowls well!
the stain Posted 30 July, 2009 Posted 30 July, 2009 Probably no play till after tea, if not tomorrow. On the plus side, did anyone hear boycott vs hayden on TMS? I really thought they were going to come to blows!
Saintjersey Posted 30 July, 2009 Posted 30 July, 2009 (edited) Probably no play till after tea, if not tomorrow. On the plus side, did anyone hear boycott vs hayden on TMS? I really thought they were going to come to blows! Please explain for those of us who are working. Edited 30 July, 2009 by Saintjersey
Saintjersey Posted 30 July, 2009 Posted 30 July, 2009 So England's only change is Bell for KP, whilst Australia have dropped Hughes for Watson and they are batting first.
Iowsaintsfan Posted 30 July, 2009 Posted 30 July, 2009 I dont understand why Pointing has elected to bat, its overcast so swing plus a damp pitch that could do almost anything and im sure they arnt going to fit in to many overs for today - if you are strauss im sure you wouldnt mind loosing the toss that much, though have to say i still dont fancy Flintoff Running in on that damp wicket
bungle Posted 30 July, 2009 Posted 30 July, 2009 Brad Haddin out due to injury! (Broke his finger during warm-up, Ponting didn't know and put him in the team and had to get special permission to change!)
Hatch Posted 30 July, 2009 Posted 30 July, 2009 Brad Haddin out due to injury! (Broke his finger during warm-up, Ponting didn't know and put him in the team and had to get special permission to change!) LOL
JustMike Posted 30 July, 2009 Posted 30 July, 2009 Brad Haddin out due to injury! (Broke his finger during warm-up, Ponting didn't know and put him in the team and had to get special permission to change!) good on us for allowing the change to happen, if we had followed the letter of the law we could have denied them the change. Good to see common sense prevailing
saint1977 Posted 30 July, 2009 Posted 30 July, 2009 Better hope for rain - awful bowling bar Swann. Garbage in particular from Broad and Anderson, Broad is only getting in the side at the moment as his face fits with the England management, he wouldn't get in the Hampshire side and perhaps not even Nottinghamshire. Broad just isn't ready to face top level Test sides yet.
Saintjersey Posted 31 July, 2009 Posted 31 July, 2009 Need to pick up early wickets, otherwise I could seem them going on to score 500+ and I can see us folding under the pressure.
keithd Posted 31 July, 2009 Posted 31 July, 2009 i see we reached the pivotal part of the test where England throw it away
chrisobee Posted 31 July, 2009 Author Posted 31 July, 2009 Well more rain is forecast for Saturday and Monday and even so whilst 126/1 is a good start it's not a surprise on this pitch. A draw is still long odds on I reckon.
stevegrant Posted 31 July, 2009 Posted 31 July, 2009 First ball of the day, Onions traps Watson lbw Second ball of the day, Onions clean-bowls Hussey
Saintjersey Posted 31 July, 2009 Posted 31 July, 2009 Wow!!!!!!!!!! What a way for me to celebrate my 1000th post!!!!!!!
bungle Posted 31 July, 2009 Posted 31 July, 2009 I see that today we have reached the pivotal moment of the Ashes. Australia have thrown it all away.
Saintjersey Posted 31 July, 2009 Posted 31 July, 2009 Tim Ruscoe, Hollies Stand, text 81111: "Just read Phillip Hughes' Twitter site this morning - 'whole team had a great night out in Birmingham last night - it was 5am when we all got back'."
JustMike Posted 31 July, 2009 Posted 31 July, 2009 Mr Cricket out for a golden duck! Loving it who is mr cricket??
JustMike Posted 31 July, 2009 Posted 31 July, 2009 Onions get's Ponting out!! he is bowling very well too! knew i should have put him in the fantasy team
Saintjersey Posted 31 July, 2009 Posted 31 July, 2009 he is bowling very well too! knew i should have put him in the fantasy team I know I'm regretting that now and having Hussey and Haddin in my team means I will probably now be bottom after this game.
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