Reality Check!

[hasper57saint]

Bumped into another 'Saint' today as I was about to enter Tesco's here in Telford. We had a quick discussion about AP and the immediacy of the problems. He (the other Saint) said "It won't take long for the 'Negatives' to start posting with their nonsensical comments" and here we are true to form already having a go at our manager. For Gods' sake fella's (and fellar-esses) let the man get on with his Job. I certainly wouldn't want it at this particular moment in time.

I'm APPP-Y I'm APPP-Y!

COYR

[Trader]

Here, here.

 

It is a fact known only to a few posters on here that I am a referee who is currently working at CCC level. I have tried to keep this out of the public arena because of the grief that we referee's get. However, it is about time that people understood that my qualification in refereeing has given me an insight into the game that most posters will not have. I understand where Derry and Tic-Tacs are coming from.

 

I want it to be on record that I am well prepared to help AP out with any coaching. Maybe getting some of the youngsters to understand some of the rules and that kind of stuff. I can show the young uns how to take a throw on properly and that sort of thing.

 

 

Oh dear

 

I saw lots of referees working at CCC level last season.

 

I'm sure if AP wants you to show the young uns to take a "throw on" ?? properly "and that sort of thing" he'll be in touch.

 

FFS

[Smirking_Saint]

I agree in principle Tac-Tics but the fact is that Pinnacle did waste vital time needed to be negotiating etc with players.

 

These teams have had the extra few weeks being able to talk, assess and sweet talk players into joining. AP has just found out which door leads where in St Mary's.

 

From what i am hearing he is trying his best to sort transfers out but unfortunately mate we are very much on the back foot. We all know we need reinforcements, as does AP. Problem is alot of the teams are ready to move and we are not.

 

have a bit of patience, i believe we will be there or there abouts come kick off, probably not as ready as we could have been but put that down to the numpties that wasted Fry's time

[Smirking_Saint]

Here, here.

 

It is a fact known only to a few posters on here that I am a referee who is currently working at CCC level. I have tried to keep this out of the public arena because of the grief that we referee's get. However, it is about time that people understood that my qualification in refereeing has given me an insight into the game that most posters will not have. I understand where Derry and Tic-Tacs are coming from.

 

I want it to be on record that I am well prepared to help AP out with any coaching. Maybe getting some of the youngsters to understand some of the rules and that kind of stuff. I can show the young uns how to take a throw on properly and that sort of thing.

 

God i am hoping that was tongue in cheek

[Glasgow_Saint]

Poor man AP has only been in job since Monday

 

last Friday

[Glasgow_Saint]

Here, here.

 

It is a fact known only to a few posters on here that I am a referee who is currently working at CCC level. I have tried to keep this out of the public arena because of the grief that we referee's get. However, it is about time that people understood that my qualification in refereeing has given me an insight into the game that most posters will not have. I understand where Derry and Tic-Tacs are coming from.

 

I want it to be on record that I am well prepared to help AP out with any coaching. Maybe getting some of the youngsters to understand some of the rules and that kind of stuff. I can show the young uns how to take a throw on properly and that sort of thing.

 

 

are you on heroin?

[WATERSIDEIFASAINT]

I will be concerned if no new players have arrived by the end of next week as we need a rb,commanding cd,midfield general,winger and pacy striker to have a half reasonable side.We certainly ideally need the pacy striker,winger and cd before the season starts as without them I fear we will get embarrassed by Millwall & Huddersfield who are 2 decent sides who will both fancy their chances of making the play offs this season.

 

I'd be happy with the rumours of Jaidi,Holland and Markus Bent were correct.

 

If noone has signed next week it will send out the worrying signal that noone on AP's target list fancies coming to Saints.

 

Yes we need to stay patient but isn't it difficult with us all knowing just how poor our current side is!?

[Trader]

I will be concerned if no new players have arrived by the end of next week as we need a rb,commanding cd,midfield general,winger and pacy striker to have a half reasonable side.We certainly ideally need the pacy striker,winger and cd before the season starts as without them I fear we will get embarrassed by Millwall & Huddersfield who are 2 decent sides who will both fancy their chances of making the play offs this season.

 

I'd be happy with the rumours of Jaidi,Holland and Markus Bent were correct.

 

If noone has signed next week it will send out the worrying signal that noone on AP's target list fancies coming to Saints.

 

Yes we need to stay patient but isn't it difficult with us all knowing just how poor our current side is!?

 

Is that Peter Noone from Herman's Hermits?

 

Isn't he a bit old?

[Fitzhugh Fella]

We have to be patient. Christ, poor old Pardew is even probably making the tea at Staplewood at present - no assistants can't be helping his task. I fully expect us to still be -10 points come September. He inherited an absolute dogs dinner and we have no right to expect otherwise.

 

However I remain irked that the main reason we are where we are is because Fry gave a bunch of chancers 5 week exclusivity and too many influential people threw their weight behind Pinnacle without properly checking their authenticity. In a few years it hopefully will not matter but sometimes good intentions no matter how well meaning can be harmful.

[CanadaSaint]

This weekend will be his first squad preparation, first starting line up, first tactical approach and first motivation job. He's right to wait and see how that works out and to make his own evaluation of the players.

 

But I suspect he knows that he needs to analyze fast (some of which he's already done) and that next week will be nuts.

 

I'd be absolutely shocked if he doesn't already have irons in the fire on a few key players, and just as shocked if we don't see arrivals by mid week.

[BadgerBadger]

Lets just remember that we're lucky to have a club at all so to start whinging about the strength of the team is a little churlish.

 

I for one will be a happy man if we finish 1 point above relegation - as long we're slowly moving forward in a mindfull and competent way and not thrashing around in a panic, which for once we don't have to do, then all is going well.

[Glasgow_Saint]

I for one will be a happy man if we finish 1 point above relegation

 

Happy to finish 1 point above relegation - are you for real? **** me some people on here are easily pleased

[trousers]

FFS

[Rem]

I have every confidence in AP. He is approaching this task in a sensible and methodical way. He is evaluating what he has, he will then go out and find what he needs to be successful. We may not be as advanced as other League 1 teams at the moment but that will come as builds the team in the shape that he wants.

 

I am as impatient as the next guy, I’ve been trawling this site for the past week hoping for new signings, but I know AP is right in taking a considered, positive approach. I expect to start the season slowly but within 6 weeks or so we’ll be competing with the best of them. Hold on for the ride…. and keep the faith, this is going to be an exciting season.

[RonManager]

We have to be patient. Christ, poor old Pardew is even probably making the tea at Staplewood at present - no assistants can't be helping his task. I fully expect us to still be -10 points come September. He inherited an absolute dogs dinner and we have no right to expect otherwise.

 

However I remain irked that the main reason we are where we are is because Fry gave a bunch of chancers 5 week exclusivity and too many influential people threw their weight behind Pinnacle without properly checking their authenticity. In a few years it hopefully will not matter but sometimes good intentions no matter how well meaning can be harmful.

 

Agreed. What makes it worse is that ML was there all the time. We are running to stand still at the moment. It will all come right eventually, no problem. Take your time AP et al - get it right.

[dune]

I for one will be a happy man if we finish 1 point above relegation.

 

Hello Rupert.

[BadgerBadger]

Happy to finish 1 point above relegation - are you for real? **** me some people on here are easily pleased

 

All things considered - yes!

[Glasgow_Saint]

All things considered - yes!

 

what?

[Wiltshire Saint]

Here, here.

 

It is a fact known only to a few posters on here that I am a referee who is currently working at CCC level. I have tried to keep this out of the public arena because of the grief that we referee's get. However, it is about time that people understood that my qualification in refereeing has given me an insight into the game that most posters will not have. I understand where Derry and Tic-Tacs are coming from.

 

I want it to be on record that I am well prepared to help AP out with any coaching. Maybe getting some of the youngsters to understand some of the rules and that kind of stuff. I can show the young uns how to take a throw on properly and that sort of thing.

 

Oh dear

 

I saw lots of referees working at CCC level last season.

 

I'm sure if AP wants you to show the young uns to take a "throw on" ?? properly "and that sort of thing" he'll be in touch.

 

FFS

 

And the first insults start to arrive.

 

are you on heroin?

 

No, I am not. And that, as far as I am concerned is an ill advised and offensive comment. As part of my community work I spend time with young offenders and drug addicts. Through football I have helped teach them about life, about discipline and about respect. Something you have an issue with. Herion is not to be sniffed at.

 

I think a lot of people on this thread need to calm down. OK, AP has not bought an entire squad yet, but he has bought one and identified the rest as being sh*t, so that's a start.

 

Would I be happy finishing one point off the relegation places? No I bloody wouldn't! Would I be happy finishing two points above the relegation places? No I bloody wouldn't. Would I be happy finishing three points off the relegation places? No I bloody wouldn't! Would I be happy finishing four points above the relegation places? Probably.

[Northant Saint]

I do see your point tac tics, and we need to get a move on fast. I'm a firm believer in the new regime, but we really do need to get a move on.

[CB Fry]

FFS the same typical posters.

 

Personally I think AP will get it right, just not this season, we'll see

 

 

So the whole season is a write off, and that's your judgement having giving Pardew five working days in the job. Five days. Five working days.

 

Five days in and you say he now won't get it right until at least August 2010.

 

 

 

Ladies and gentlemen, the UEFA B qualification :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

 

 

It must be the UEFA A course that talks about managers that turn clubs around without, gosh, even a pre season.

 

Some managers take over in late September and still get their teams promoted. I'm sure they'll do a module on it some time.

 

 

Five days.

 

Five. working. days.

 

Five. days.

[Wes Tender]

. Herion is not to be sniffed at.

 

.

 

I'm not expert on these things, but it's cocaine that's sniffed, right?

[CB Fry]

I think a lot of people on this thread need to calm down.

 

 

Like people saying Pardew is not going to get it right this season after five working days in the job, you mean?

[Nineteen Canteen]

Murty is quite big...

 

On a serious note the lack of patience shown by many fans is truly scary.

 

Would be if we weren't so use to it. Wasn't so long ago Tac-Tics would have been in the majority and yet at the moment we seem to be marching into a squad more depleted in skill and numbers than last year.

 

Pinnacle and the hapless MLT must be partially to blame as if we are on a tight budget as it seems we have no doubt missed out on some decent 'bosman's' now snapped up by other clubs but that is not the club's fault or any of those now involved in taking us forward.

 

I still maintain we are a poor club with a wealthy owner who will only allow what the club generates in profit to be spent on the team. IMO he will prop the club financially but will not spend personally or allow the club to borrow money to buy players in return for his underwriting of the club itself. So it comes down to the skill of Pardew and the pateince and support of us fans and an acceptances that League 1 football will be here for two seasons despite the Pardew rhetoric, otherwise why was he given a 3 year contract? Certainly, not to get in the Premiership in that time otherwise Oldknow would be looking for another manager next season.

[trousers]

We have to be patient. Christ, poor old Pardew is even probably making the tea at Staplewood at present - no assistants can't be helping his task. I fully expect us to still be -10 points come September. He inherited an absolute dogs dinner and we have no right to expect otherwise.

 

However I remain irked that the main reason we are where we are is because Fry gave a bunch of chancers 5 week exclusivity and too many influential people threw their weight behind Pinnacle without properly checking their authenticity. In a few years it hopefully will not matter but sometimes good intentions no matter how well meaning can be harmful.

 

Has the whole 'Fry' episode (both begbies and Barclays mr frys) now been successfully swept under the carpet by 'those concerned' or is there still dome degree of accountability to come their way? I rather suspect the former as it would seem somewhat unfashionable to rake over the recent past these days...

Edited 24 July, 2009 by trousers

[Nineteen Canteen]

So the whole season is a write off, and that's your judgement having giving Pardew five working days in the job. Five days. Five working days.

 

Five days in and you say he now won't get it right until at least August 2010.

 

 

 

Ladies and gentlemen, the UEFA B qualification :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

 

 

It must be the UEFA A course that talks about managers that turn clubs around without, gosh, even a pre season.

 

Some managers take over in late September and still get their teams promoted. I'm sure they'll do a module on it some time.

 

 

Five days.

 

Five. working. days.

 

Five. days.

 

I think he did an unofficial half day last Saturday

[Nineteen Canteen]

Has the whole 'Fry' episode (both begbies and Barclays mr frys) now been successfully been swept under the carpet by 'those concerned' or is there still dome degree of accountability to come their way? I rather suspect the former as it would seem somewhat unfasionanle to rake over the recent past these days...

 

FWIW some of my coals are still glowing

[Nineteen Canteen]

We have to be patient. Christ, poor old Pardew is even probably making the tea at Staplewood at present - no assistants can't be helping his task. I fully expect us to still be -10 points come September. He inherited an absolute dogs dinner and we have no right to expect otherwise.

 

However I remain irked that the main reason we are where we are is because Fry gave a bunch of chancers 5 week exclusivity and too many influential people threw their weight behind Pinnacle without properly checking their authenticity. In a few years it hopefully will not matter but sometimes good intentions no matter how well meaning can be harmful.

 

FF I think your second paragraph explains what will shape our season more than anything else in the past, present or future. Not that it will serve any purpose but one day I hope we get to understand exactly what went on with all the people involved including those who the fans trusted the most. IMO it was a shameful and amatuerish embarassment regardless of how desperate the situation was at the time and even with my limited understanding it is very difficult to defend or excuse. Hopefully we can still consolidate in league 1 this season and the fans will be happy with that and remain patient.

[CanadaSaint]

Has the whole 'Fry' episode (both begbies and Barclays mr frys) now been successfully swept under the carpet by 'those concerned' or is there still dome degree of accountability to come their way? I rather suspect the former as it would seem somewhat unfashionable to rake over the recent past these days...

 

I'm no happier about that stuff than most people on here, but what is to be achieved by going back there?

 

Begbies worked for the creditors, not the fans, and so the Pinnacle deal (at least in the early days) was just as good as the ML deal from their perspective - possibly better if wages were being covered. They didn't really give a rat's arse about the buyer's future investment in players or, really, about screwing a season by leaving things so late.

 

The Barclays Fry issue may warrant some more scrutiny if someone is interested enough to take it up.

 

I'm just sick of it all though, Trousers - Rupert, Wilde, Crouch, Lynham, Fialka, Begbies. I wouldn't care if I never heard these names again.

 

Let's rise above it, stop sniping at eachother and start rebuilding this club.

[saintedwill]

So let me get this right...

 

AP signs a player on day 3 of his 5 days in charge, he hasn't got an assistant or full coaching staff and there's already grief because we're not signing players left, right and centre.

 

Someone definitely needs a reality check somewhere along the line.

[St_Tel49]

Just looking at who Norwich have signed, Saints really need to pull their socks up, sod the bosman market,theres plenty of targets who Saints should be signing up and missing out on. Grant Holt, Stephen Hughes,Simon Whaley,Rhoys Wiggins, Patrick Kisnorbo have all been signed by teams in our league. We are unbelieveabley weak, AP is wrong and should be snapping up players regardless if they have fee's, we need to hit the ground running, we're asking for big trouble....

 

edit: Pardew is'nt wrong, just concerned we have'nt been as strong in the market.

 

Waooooh! You are so right. Who are they by the way?

[Red and White Army]

However I remain irked that the main reason we are where we are is because Fry gave a bunch of chancers 5 week exclusivity and too many influential people threw their weight behind Pinnacle without properly checking their authenticity. In a few years it hopefully will not matter but sometimes good intentions no matter how well meaning can be harmful.

 

Weren't you one of them Duncan? As I remember, only myself and later GM were sounding notes of caution on Pinnacle. I was shouted down by the tide of people wanting to believe.... exactly the same people who got taken in by Wilde a few years back.

 

It was obvious right from the very start of exclusivity that something was badly wrong with Pinnacle, and to be fair to Fry he realised quickly too.

[captainchris]

Pinnacle's empty posturing lost us 5+ vital weeks - can you imagine how much further ahead of the game we would be had Pardew and Markus Liebherr had been in charge since May?

 

Pinnacle and those that backed them have got off lightly.

 

God so agree........... Pinnacle used MLT they so did!!

[Rattlehead]

We have £2.5 billion to spend. We will walk the Champions League in a few years time. And it will be f*cking easy.

[BadgerBadger]

When will the reasons of the Pinnacle disaster be made public - how the hell did they get as far as they did and who is culpable!

[SaintBobby]

FFS the same typical posters.

 

I believe the new regime and AP are the right guys, singing from the same hym sheet and have impressed me with they have said, all I am saying is I think we should be acting different regarding the transfer market, I was just earmarking my view and if anyone shared it.

 

Personally I think AP will get it right, just not this season, we'll see

 

I think you have a point, but I think we're on a two-season strategy to get out of League One, whereas I'm guessing that some of the others (Norwich?) are on a one season strategy.

 

Obviously, I want to be "ambitious", "hit the ground running", "show intent", "build a winning mentality" (add other cliches at will) etc.

 

But to be honest, the real test for me is whether we enter the 2010-2011 season as favourites to win League One.

 

I don't rule out promotion this season, but think it's unlikely and should be treated as a "bonus". Certainly, if I was Liebherr, I'd be expecting AP to win L1 in 2011, and would have structured his deal (and transfer budget) accordingly...

[JohnnyFartPants]

Here, here.

 

It is a fact known only to a few posters on here that I am a referee who is currently working at CCC level. I have tried to keep this out of the public arena because of the grief that we referee's get. However, it is about time that people understood that my qualification in refereeing has given me an insight into the game that most posters will not have. I understand where Derry and Tic-Tacs are coming from.

 

I want it to be on record that I am well prepared to help AP out with any coaching. Maybe getting some of the youngsters to understand some of the rules and that kind of stuff. I can show the young uns how to take a throw on properly and that sort of thing.

 

 

This post has really lifted me ready for work. Cheers fella, very funny indeed.

[Gingeletiss]

Would be if we weren't so use to it. Wasn't so long ago Tac-Tics would have been in the majority and yet at the moment we seem to be marching into a squad more depleted in skill and numbers than last year.

 

Pinnacle and the hapless MLT must be partially to blame as if we are on a tight budget as it seems we have no doubt missed out on some decent 'bosman's' now snapped up by other clubs but that is not the club's fault or any of those now involved in taking us forward.

 

I still maintain we are a poor club with a wealthy owner who will only allow what the club generates in profit to be spent on the team. IMO he will prop the club financially but will not spend personally or allow the club to borrow money to buy players in return for his underwriting of the club itself. So it comes down to the skill of Pardew and the pateince and support of us fans and an acceptances that League 1 football will be here for two seasons despite the Pardew rhetoric, otherwise why was he given a 3 year contract? Certainly, not to get in the Premiership in that time otherwise Oldknow would be looking for another manager next season.

 

Are you really are a Saints fan??..........not content with running Lawrie Mac down at every opportunity, you are now having a dig at yet another Saints legend.......as others have said, do you do this for a wind up, or do you have deep underlying issues with our club??

[Fitzhugh Fella]

Weren't you one of them Duncan? As I remember, only myself and later GM were sounding notes of caution on Pinnacle. I was shouted down by the tide of people wanting to believe.... exactly the same people who got taken in by Wilde a few years back.

 

It was obvious right from the very start of exclusivity that something was badly wrong with Pinnacle, and to be fair to Fry he realised quickly too.

 

Initially I was very pro Pinnacle, mainly because of what I was being fed back from friends of MLT (in who I trusted implicitly) but once Lynam started posting on here with all the inconsistencies and then that chap in North London was unveiled I smelt a rat and if you recall released details of Pinnacle's original introductory e mail to Fry on here. That same day I recieved phone calls from Lynam, Crouch and MLT with the former threatening to call the police and the latter accusing me of wrecking the deal. Not a very nice weekend. I remain angry then that they were still going along with the charade even though most of us on here were waking up and smelling the coffee. Those five weeks wasted will be crucial to our welfare this season and you only have to look at the state we are currently in to realise those wasted weeks will take months to overcome.

[Fitzhugh Fella]

When will the reasons of the Pinnacle disaster be made public - how the hell did they get as far as they did and who is culpable!

 

I hate to say this but they got as far as they did on the back of someones name who we all idolised and trusted 100%. Were Matt not involved they would not have got anywhere near exclusivity.

Edited 25 July, 2009 by Fitzhugh Fella

[Fitzhugh Fella]

Would be if we weren't so use to it. Wasn't so long ago Tac-Tics would have been in the majority and yet at the moment we seem to be marching into a squad more depleted in skill and numbers than last year.

 

Pinnacle and the hapless MLT must be partially to blame as if we are on a tight budget as it seems we have no doubt missed out on some decent 'bosman's' now snapped up by other clubs but that is not the club's fault or any of those now involved in taking us forward.

 

I still maintain we are a poor club with a wealthy owner who will only allow what the club generates in profit to be spent on the team. IMO he will prop the club financially but will not spend personally or allow the club to borrow money to buy players in return for his underwriting of the club itself. So it comes down to the skill of Pardew and the pateince and support of us fans and an acceptances that League 1 football will be here for two seasons despite the Pardew rhetoric, otherwise why was he given a 3 year contract? Certainly, not to get in the Premiership in that time otherwise Oldknow would be looking for another manager next season.

 

19C you say we are a poor club with a wealthy owner. I know where you are coming from but in fact we are not a poor club. Poor clubs have debts and don't own their own (Premiership) ground. Every penny we take throught the turnstiles etc etc can go towards funding the club - that is not a bad place to be in even without ML's euros.

[trousers]

I'm just sick of it all though, Trousers - Rupert, Wilde, Crouch, Lynham, Fialka, Begbies. I wouldn't care if I never heard these names again.

.

 

I understand the clamour on here to look only forwards and bury the past but it's that 'fingers in ear' mentality that (only?) exists in the football world that people 'messing' with our club over the years have relied upon - in other words, they know they will 'get away with it' once the dust settles.

 

If these people knew that there would be in depth scrutiny and ACCOUNTABILITY of their actions after the event then they would think twice about mucking us around in the first place.

 

Looking back over what's happened serves to prevent reoccurences in the future, so, please...all those saying "forget the past, just look forward"... IMHO you can't successfully do the latter if you ignore the former.

Edited 25 July, 2009 by trousers

[Windmill Arm 2]

Just looking at who Norwich have signed, Saints really need to pull their socks up, sod the bosman market,theres plenty of targets who Saints should be signing up and missing out on. Grant Holt, Stephen Hughes,Simon Whaley,Rhoys Wiggins, Patrick Kisnorbo have all been signed by teams in our league. We are unbelieveabley weak, AP is wrong and should be snapping up players regardless if they have fee's, we need to hit the ground running, we're asking for big trouble....

 

edit: Pardew is'nt wrong, just concerned we have'nt been as strong in the market.

 

He's been in the seat for 5 minutes FFS, give the guy a chance. Stop flapping.

[fletch]

We have £2.5 billion to spend. We will walk the Champions League in a few years time. And it will be f*cking easy.

 

It's posts and posters like this who get on my tits.

 

We haven't got £2.5 billion, most of us ain't got 2 pennies to rub together!

 

ML has got the money and it's up to him how much he chucks at this club and he certainly isn't going to throw all of his wealth at it!!!!

 

Get real for fooks sake!

 

And as for walking the league, we may or may not, but I'm realistic enough to know from history, money certainly doesn't bring success as often as people think.

 

Facts - We have as good a chance as anyother club of getting out this season, in fact ours is less as we are down 10 on everyone else. There as some very good clubs in this league lets not forget that.

 

It's ML's money not ours and he will spend as much, or as little as he wants!!!

[Thedelldays]

It's posts and posters like this who get on my tits.

 

We haven't got £2.5 billion, most of us ain't got 2 pennies to rub together!

 

ML has got the money and it's up to him how much he chucks at this club and he certainly isn't going to throw all of his wealth at it!!!!

 

Get real for fooks sake!

 

And as for walking the league, we may or may not, but I'm realistic enough to know from history, money certainly doesn't bring success as often as people think.

 

Facts - We have as good a chance as anyother club of getting out this season, in fact ours is less as we are down 10 on everyone else. There as some very good clubs in this league lets not forget that.

 

It's ML's money not ours and he will spend as much, or as little as he wants!!!

 

 

at what point did you think Rattlehead was in anyway serious..?

[RonManager]

at what point did you think Rattlehead was in anyway serious..?

 

Exactly - is there a 'tongue in cheek' smilie?

[John B]

Those five weeks wasted will be crucial to our welfare this season and you only have to look at the state we are currently in to realise those wasted weeks will take months to overcome.

 

Unfortunately things do not always go to plan but surely at sometime there was credible backing for the Pinnacle deal.

 

I felt uneasy with all the MLT hype as I did not think he has what is needed to be chairman and when I heard Mike F and Tony L talk of the future I was completely underwhelmed.

 

However the fans were really happy but did not know what was happening in the buying process to a large extent we still dont

 

 

Perhaps Markus was not pushing to hard enough to buy the club because of the MLT hysteria but because of it we may lost all probability of promotion this season

[Tac-tics]

What part of the Uefa B course talked about a new manager buying as many players as humanly possible in his first week in the job, otherwise the subsequent season is a write off?

 

"A little knowledge is a dangerous thing" and you are dangerous.

It was an off topic discussion to do with Poopey and Saints we're a club coach spoke his views.

[Tac-tics]

Right to the same usual idiot arrogant posters.

I mentioned the UEFA B course because 3 of the people there are involved with professional clubs and also the fact MA was there, regardless off my qualifications or previous experiances with my work it was stating I was in a enept enviroment with those off an insight.

 

Lets get this right:

 

1)AP & ML are 110% the right men

2)I am greatful my club is saved

3)The size of the club should be monsterous in this league and setting a standard, regardless off -10.

4)AP seems to do a cracking job from what I read in Pilchards post. I am not knocking him in anyway.

 

5) I am just saying, when there's players we should be making a priority to sign

and not waiting soley for the bosman market, we are a big,big club in this league and we should be bringing in numbers as well as the right quality.

 

The usual suspects have 'surprisingly' got it wrong.....again

[Tac-tics]

Im the first one to say, I have been silenced!

 

 

http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/4510368.Much_phoning__not_enough_training_ground_for_Saints_boss/