Hatch Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 About half way through the year, who are the main contenders so far. Button? Still needs to win world title Flintoff ? - not on just one good days cricket Murray ? would have to win US open and now I'm struggling to think of any others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 (edited) Tom Daley? Carl Froch? Anthony Pulis? Edited 24 July, 2009 by Appy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawillwill Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 I'd say it depends entirely on if we win the Ashes or not. If we do it'll be one of them. If not, I expect it'll be either Button or Murray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 Ian Bell or pushing it I reckon Colin Montgomerie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilsburydoughboy Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 Steviiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeee Gerrard best midfielder and boxer you can imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swannymere Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 I would imagine Tom Daley is a good bet due to the 'cute' factor other than that i would say it's a fairly open field with possibly Ricky Hatton being the best outsider due to his popularity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_bert Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 Mark cavendish should be in with a shout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L1Minus10 Posted 24 July, 2009 Share Posted 24 July, 2009 Amir Khan will be in with a shout as will David Haye if he beats that 7ft monster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattlehead Posted 25 July, 2009 Share Posted 25 July, 2009 Murray ? would have to win US open And get a personality. The miserable Jock tw*t. Has anyone mentioned Bradley Wright Phillips yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 25 July, 2009 Share Posted 25 July, 2009 I'd say it depends entirely on if we win the Ashes or not. If we do it'll be one of them. If not, I expect it'll be either Button or Murray. I agree but if Flintoff were injured again would say Strauss receive the vote or not regardless of his performance as he is not seen as an all conquering hero ? Maybe as he is team captain but I'm not convinced and can anyone really see Cook, Bopara, Prior, Collingwood, Swann, Broad, Anderson or any other player aside from Flintoff and Strauss winning? In fact I'd say Charlotte Edwards is more likely to win or finish at least in the top 3. Lots still to come off course including the World Athletics Championship though it would take something very special for an athlete to win it and probably the only like candidate would be Jessica Ennis who could conceivably win both the heptathlon and the 100 metres hurdles, an event in which she is world class. If Haye beats Nikolai Valuev who apparently is the tallest heavyweight world champion of all time he would get my vote regardless of what else happens. 80/1 at Paddy Power appeals to me especially as voting I imagine will start soon after the fight which is in November. Button is far more likely than Murray but at around 2/1 and 5/1 respectively those odds seem way too short. Otherwise Theo Walcott at 999/1 anyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 25 July, 2009 Share Posted 25 July, 2009 Mark cavendish should be in with a shout He should be, but Cycling, out of an Olympic year, is too minority a sport. Shame, as he deserved an Olympic medal and didn't get one, and he will be deprived of this recognition too. What is it, a GB record 9 Tour De France stage wins now..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattlehead Posted 25 July, 2009 Share Posted 25 July, 2009 Possible candidate, I guess, on SSN now - Rebecca Adlington but jeez what a f*cking conk. Certainly a hound of the highest order. Never mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 25 July, 2009 Share Posted 25 July, 2009 tom daley for the young personality of the year...a dead cert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 25 July, 2009 Share Posted 25 July, 2009 How about Dominic Cork:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 25 July, 2009 Share Posted 25 July, 2009 How about Dominic Cork:D He'd be a shoe in if they had a "geriatric" Sports Personality award !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 tom daley for the young personality of the year...a dead cert Bullied at school. its nailed on really i spose, but his sport is over quicker than Chrisobee in the sack, alledgedly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 Bullied at school. its nailed on really i spose, but his sport is over quicker than Chrisobee in the sack, alledgedly Libellous, I'd sue you but I'll make allowance for the fact you are a plank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 Bullied at school. its nailed on really i spose, but his sport is over quicker than Chrisobee in the sack, alledgedly A lot has been made of that in the last fw days here in Plymouth He (apparenly) got loads of grief at school for his poor effot in the olympics (despite beng 14 years old) and his parents had to put him in another school.. the front page of the Herald here had the other day.. "world Champion 1 Bullies 0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bungle Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 So far, it has to be Mark Cavendish. Bradley Wiggins should get a mention for 4th in GC at Le Tour, but to add to 6 stage wins in Le Tour, Cav has won a lot of other races including Milan-San Remo. Froch as well, and he will have another fight this year. Button, if he wins the title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 I'd vote for Cavendish. As much as I enjoyed his 12th round demolition of Jermaine Taylor, Carl Froch isn't well known enough with the general public to win. Same with Haye which is weird. Maybe if he'd have fought and beaten a Kiltchko he would be. If we win the Ashes and he plays well in every game it'll be Flintoff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithd Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 phil Taylor stats speak for themselves but many dont view it as a sport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robsk II Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 tiger woods tiger woods tiger woods Tiger and his bu... erm, best chum St Willy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 phil Taylor stats speak for themselves but many dont view it as a sport Well as I said elsewhere many are just playing with semantics and many are wrong since any dictionary I know of will define sport along these lines: 1 a. Physical activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively. b. A particular form of this activity. 2. An activity involving physical exertion and skill that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often undertaken competitively. 3. An active pastime; recreation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 If haye beats valuev he will be in the running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bungle Posted 27 July, 2009 Share Posted 27 July, 2009 Taylor is still on for winning all the ranking events this year. He has done: World Championships, UK Open, Las Vegas Desert Classic & World Matchplay. Just the World Grand Prix to go, and that is a clean sweep of the "majors". Add to that he broke the world record 3-dart average for a televised game (116.01 in the PL vs John Part) and is regularly averaging 100+ and even 105+. However, the BBC won't even mention him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 27 July, 2009 Share Posted 27 July, 2009 It will be Button if he wins the world title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 27 July, 2009 Share Posted 27 July, 2009 Taylor is still on for winning all the ranking events this year. He has done: World Championships, UK Open, Las Vegas Desert Classic & World Matchplay. Just the World Grand Prix to go, and that is a clean sweep of the "majors". Add to that he broke the world record 3-dart average for a televised game (116.01 in the PL vs John Part) and is regularly averaging 100+ and even 105+. However, the BBC won't even mention him. Yes, which is a disgrace. He demolished the field in the World Matchplay last week but is still not satisfied and is heading straight back to the practice board. He's won an incredible 130+ (including 75 major tournaments) professional tournaments, no one else comes close. These are the highest 3 dart averages in TV history: 116.01 Phil Taylor 8-3 John Part, PL 2009 115.62 Phil Taylor 10-0 Mark Lawrence,UK Open 115.51 Phil Taylor 9-3 Ken Mather, UK Open 2009 114.54 Phil Taylor 9-3 Wes Newton, UK Open 2008 114.15 Darryl Fitton 6-0 Davy Richardson, IDL 2004 113.92 Phil Taylor 9-3 Mervyn King, EDC 2008 113.43 Phil Taylor 8-0 Gary Mawson, Matchplay 1997 113.33 Phil Taylor 11-7 Robert Thornton, EDC 2008 112.68 Phil Taylor 11-1 Adrian Lewis, PL 2008 112.56 Chris Mason 11-8 Adrian Lewis, UK Open 2005 112.17 Phil Taylor 16-7 Chris Mason, World Matchplay 111.74 Phil Taylor 8-3 John Part, PL 2008 111.35 Phil Taylor 3-0 Dennis Priestley, US Open 2008 111.21 Phil Taylor 6-1 Shayne Burgess, PDC WC 2002 111.14 Phil Taylor 8-3 Raymond van Barneveld, PL 2008 111.03 James Wade 5-3 Denis Ovens, GSOD 2008 110.94 Phil Taylor 7-1 Raymond van Barneveld, PDC WC 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 27 July, 2009 Share Posted 27 July, 2009 Blimey, Phil Taylor does not get a mention on the BBC website !! http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/other_sports/darts/8169426.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 27 July, 2009 Share Posted 27 July, 2009 Taylor is still on for winning all the ranking events this year. He has done: World Championships, UK Open, Las Vegas Desert Classic & World Matchplay. Just the World Grand Prix to go, and that is a clean sweep of the "majors". Add to that he broke the world record 3-dart average for a televised game (116.01 in the PL vs John Part) and is regularly averaging 100+ and even 105+. However, the BBC won't even mention him. that is a joke...Phil Taylor is ace and has a cult following..as does darts in general these days.. not my cuppa tea but can see how going to an event would be a brilliant exerience hate to say it (i know it is not fashionable) SKY have helped this IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyNorthernSaints Posted 27 July, 2009 Share Posted 27 July, 2009 Mark Cavendish Bradley Wiggins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 27 July, 2009 Share Posted 27 July, 2009 not my cuppa tea but can see how going to an event would be a brilliant exerience Which is really one of the main points. I don't particularly like golf for instance but can still appreciate the brilliance of Tiger Woods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 27 July, 2009 Share Posted 27 July, 2009 The main problem with Taylor is that Sky also happen to be one of his sponsors, so hardly anyone else gets a proper mention. Yes, he's the best by a country mile (although there are far more players these days who could beat him on their day), but the saturation coverage and the way the likes of Sid Waddell **** furiously over him when he hits a bog-standard 100 does get bloody irritating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 27 July, 2009 Share Posted 27 July, 2009 Blimey, Phil Taylor does not get a mention on the BBC website !! http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/other_sports/darts/8169426.stm have you tried their hobbies and pastimes section - rather than sports? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 27 July, 2009 Share Posted 27 July, 2009 have you tried their hobbies and pastimes section - rather than sports? Actually he does get a mention on that link, the "not" being a typo. Which is what you would expect anyway since Darts is patently a sport as per post 23 but in any event to call it anything else is just playing with words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 27 July, 2009 Share Posted 27 July, 2009 The main problem with Taylor is that Sky also happen to be one of his sponsors, so hardly anyone else gets a proper mention. Yes, he's the best by a country mile (although there are far more players these days who could beat him on their day), but the saturation coverage and the way the likes of Sid Waddell **** furiously over him when he hits a bog-standard 100 does get bloody irritating. Not sure I agree, I certainly don't get the point. Sky do cover all the main PDC events and show every game of every player. It just so happens that Taylor is involved in more games than anyone as he keeps winning ! I agree to a point that Sid Waddell is a bit OTT at times but in his book a Taylor 100 is usually classed as poor so that comment is just plain wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Will Posted 28 July, 2009 Share Posted 28 July, 2009 tiger woods tiger woods tiger woods Tiger and his bu... erm, best chum St Willy. Aren't you a funny ****. One person it won't be is D1ck "Who?!" Fox!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 28 July, 2009 Share Posted 28 July, 2009 Aren't you a funny ****. One person it won't be is D1ck "Who?!" Fox!! Perhaps you should watch/participate or even research the sport before passing judgment Mr. ignoramus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robsk II Posted 28 July, 2009 Share Posted 28 July, 2009 Will, he stopped competing in the early 90's. I know he was an incredible sportsperson, with a hugely impressive career - but it's a long time ago. I'm glad you validate his feats by even bothering to factor him in to your thinking, if only to reject him. I never knew you cared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Will Posted 28 July, 2009 Share Posted 28 July, 2009 saintwarwick and robsk II, the two kayak luvvies. please, get a room! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robsk II Posted 28 July, 2009 Share Posted 28 July, 2009 Good one, you thick bellend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Will Posted 28 July, 2009 Share Posted 28 July, 2009 Good one, you thick bellend. I think you'll find I'm more intelligent than you'll ever be. Considering I'm about half your age, you should be ashamed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robsk II Posted 28 July, 2009 Share Posted 28 July, 2009 "Think you'll find" - based on what? Your ignorance? Listen mate, golfing as a career doesn't mean you're a rocket scientist. I have nothing to base any assumptions about your intelligence on other than your retarded ramblings on here. Even if this was taken seriously, which frankly I don't, your arguments have been facile, verging on the irrational - not to mention ill-informed and self contradictory. There's nothing to suggest you're in any way clever, and I would suggest that from the evidence thus far, I would have an easy win on points. You even do the classic 'thick person' thing in holding on to baseless ideas - like my age. You have *no* basis to guess my age at all, and you're certainly well wrong. You useless p1ss-stain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Will Posted 28 July, 2009 Share Posted 28 July, 2009 "Think you'll find" - based on what? Your ignorance? Listen mate, golfing as a career doesn't mean you're a rocket scientist. I have nothing to base any assumptions about your intelligence on other than your retarded ramblings on here. Even if this was taken seriously, which frankly I don't, your arguments have been facile, verging on the irrational - not to mention ill-informed and self contradictory. There's nothing to suggest you're in any way clever, and I would suggest that from the evidence thus far, I would have an easy win on points. You even do the classic 'thick person' thing in holding on to baseless ideas - like my age. You have *no* basis to guess my age at all, and you're certainly well wrong. You useless p1ss-stain. No, here's why you're unintelligent. Firstly you say golf isn't a sport. Idiot. Then you call me very childish names, like bellend and p1ss stain, amongst others. And saying Tiger is my bum chum - almost forgot that one. Very much the behaviour of an intellectual adult that is, isn't it?! The basis I have on your age is that as a retired sportsman, you'll more than likely be in your 30's, at the very least. Maybe double my age was a little far fetched, but no matter - if you're 5, 10, 15 or more years older, at any age, your pathetic, childish behaviour in your posts show you up to be very stupid, not very mature, and god help us all if you have kids. Cuz if you're at the helm of a family, no doubt they'll be the next generation of chavs to grace St Mary's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robsk II Posted 28 July, 2009 Share Posted 28 July, 2009 Maybe I peaked early. As for the insults, it's too easy. It's just quite enjoyable mocking you, because, while I wouldn't say I know it for a fact, you do present as some sort of midget, intellectually. Also, I think you'll find that it is far more immature to deny yourself guilty pleasures in the name of humour. That ol' intellectual institution, seen by your ilk, probably, as for old people - radio 4 - is in fact full of willy jokes... Your assertions about my class and so on are no better. You're not above insulting others anyway, who cares about the language used? I could use all sorts of other, more supposedly high-brow words to describe you, but hey, I have to consider the target audience, eh? Finally, you're a pompous moron with an inflated sense of worth, importance and apparently intelligence. If that doesn't give someone full license to laugh in your face, what does? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Will Posted 28 July, 2009 Share Posted 28 July, 2009 Even if this was taken seriously, which frankly I don't, your arguments have been facile, verging on the irrational - not to mention ill-informed and self contradictory. Oh and please feel free to point me towards things I've said that are self contradictory!! I know contradictory is a big word and was maybe one of the few you knew that you could find a way to use against me, but at least pick one that is actually relevant!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robsk II Posted 28 July, 2009 Share Posted 28 July, 2009 Hey, that's brilliant. That's a top notch argument, cunningly constructed. Are you 15? I mean, who actually uses that as a retort? It's like kicking a puppy. You did contradict yourself, one example being when you said people shouldn't judge sports they didn't know about - yet you have consistently done the same. Dullard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Will Posted 28 July, 2009 Share Posted 28 July, 2009 Maybe I peaked early. As for the insults, it's too easy. It's just quite enjoyable mocking you, because, while I wouldn't say I know it for a fact, you do present as some sort of midget, intellectually. Also, I think you'll find that it is far more immature to deny yourself guilty pleasures in the name of humour. That ol' intellectual institution, seen by your ilk, probably, as for old people - radio 4 - is in fact full of willy jokes... Your assertions about my class and so on are no better. You're not above insulting others anyway, who cares about the language used? I could use all sorts of other, more supposedly high-brow words to describe you, but hey, I have to consider the target audience, eh? Finally, you're a pompous moron with an inflated sense of worth, importance and apparently intelligence. If that doesn't give someone full license to laugh in your face, what does? I know, what an idiot I am. Suggesting that the most dominant sportsman of today, along with Federer, is in fact, the most dominant sportsman today. What a lack of intellect I've been showing!! And yes, because I actually can back up my argument with facts and figures, I'm full of myself and I feel more important than I truly am. Maybe I should have argued my point by saying "he's the best sportsman ever cuz he did things that nobody has ever heard about and also I don't have any facts and figures to give to you other than he's the bestest cuz I do his sport and it's real tough", like you argued your point. Maybe then my opinion would have been more accepted!! If only I had thought more carefully. Oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Will Posted 28 July, 2009 Share Posted 28 July, 2009 Hey, that's brilliant. That's a top notch argument, cunningly constructed. Are you 15? I mean, who actually uses that as a retort? It's like kicking a puppy. You did contradict yourself, one example being when you said people shouldn't judge sports they didn't know about - yet you have consistently done the same. Dullard. At what point did I say that? I didn't say people shouldn't judge sports they didn't know about whatsoever!! What I DID say was that you were wrong, golf IS a sport, and then I gave you reasons why it was. I also did NOT judge kajaking. I didn't doubt the credibility of the sport, you chose to think I did. I doubted the greatness of this Fox fellow in the world of sport as a whole, but I didn't say kayaking is sh1t, kayaking isn't a sport, you must be X and Y because you're a kayaker. If you're going to accuse me of something, at least accuse me of something that is true. That is all I ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robsk II Posted 28 July, 2009 Share Posted 28 July, 2009 IT'S BLOODY SUBJECTIVE, YOU TOTAL IDIOT. You've only backed up anything with facts and figures you claim are indisputable proof of being the best sportsperson - that, once more, is down to opinion. Why can't you grasp that? Why have you read nothing else in that thread? Of course they are dominant sportspeople at present within their sports, but that in NO WAY proves these are the greatest ever. Do you not understand the other factors that go into sport - that can affect peoples lives - that go into assessing these things? It's simply impossible to make direct comparisons with ever sports person ever, so anyone with even one iota of common sense would acknowledge this fact. Apparently you haven't read any of my posts, WITH facts and some figures, because you once more seem blind to them. What's the point in arguing with an automoton of views? I accept Woods is the 'best' golfer around right now, which is a whole lot more than you've done. It's like argumens about politics on this board - the thick posters just cling on to one single thing and keep beating everyone over the head with it, without apparently being able to reason, consider, reflect - what's the sodding point? You clearly the the cognitive tools with which to take anything into account other than your one, biased, isolated view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robsk II Posted 28 July, 2009 Share Posted 28 July, 2009 Anyway, it was funny for a while but you're boring me. SRS is more engaging than you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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