Employment law

[Rattlehead]

You must be insane to work 13 hours a day, or you dont have much of an interesting life. I would actually much rather be on the dull (thankfully I aint) than working these crazy hours!..

 

I really would advise you to take this to the court for exploiting you in an unfair way.

 

You see Calvin, you are an excellent example of why this country is f*cked. Give me a Polish worker any day over the millions of lazy Brits who feel they're owed a living.

 

On a related note @saint clark, being called a mentalist or a dullard by Calvin has got to hurt.

[EastleighSoulBoy]

Yep I think you can still sign an opt out. But I also think that you have to have a determined rest period between each shift. I know Mr TF works 12 hour shifts and that's the maximum he can work each day.

 

From what I've found by Googling 'rest between shifts' it seems that there has to be 11 hours rest between work periods.

 

The 11 hours does ring a bell. In extreme circumstances an agreement can be made between company and employee to shorten that period. In my experience this has rarely happened but was almost always down to a need to man a job in a breakdown situation so that production can be resumed A.S.A.P. In these circumstances the employee has had a meal brought in from a local takeaway and also, if appropriate, paid for the rest of the next shift off.

[EastleighSoulBoy]

For f*ck's sake, we're all f*cking grown ups (well maybe not saint clark). Whatever happened to "getting the job done"? Bloody clock watching lefties.

 

Typical right wing rant, wishing to break both employment law and in doing so leaving an employee open to prosecution under the H&SAW act. This rule is in place to stop employers exploiting people and leaving them tired and, at times, not able to make coherent decisions or use dangerous machinery in a safe and appropriate manner.

 

Most, probably all, employment law in this country has come about through experience of work induced ill health or even death.

 

I bet you'd get really excited about air Traffic controllers who spend only a few hours at a time at their screen for obvious reasons. These controllers might just be keeping your holiday plane in the sky the next time you fly!

[Johnny Bognor]

ESB and BTF, you can work more than 48 hours in a week. As an individual you can opt out too (http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Employment/Employees/WorkingHoursAndTimeOff/DG_10029426)

 

 

The rule relates to the average working week over a 17 week period. Therefore you could work 816 hours over 17 weeks in the following ways.

 

1. 48 hours a week for 17 weeks

2. 96 hours a week for 8.5 weeks, with 8.5 weeks off

3. 72 hours a week for 6 weeks, followed by 35 hours a week for 11 weeks

 

So it has nothing to do with Health & Safety, especially as you can opt out if you so choose.

 

This piece of genius legislation is purely designed to hold back the EU economy in some false belief that we can somehow compete with the Asia and US economies by tying up our respective employers in knots.

Edited 25 July, 2009 by Johnny Bognor

[Calvin]

You see Calvin, you are an excellent example of why this country is f*cked. Give me a Polish worker any day over the millions of lazy Brits who feel they're owed a living.

 

On a related note @saint clark, being called a mentalist or a dullard by Calvin has got to hurt.

I do work full time, and I am a hard worker

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You really are clueless about my life.

You always assume stuff because you are a pompous idiot who thinks hes right. But you ain't right. You are just a shining example of arrogance.

 

Most of your posts are pathetic along with your Internet 'persona' .. I know you love to joke around but come on.. 90 percent of your posts are a total joke.

 

You are such a nerd.. that its funny!

 

Oh.. Polish workers ain't hard workers. Just cheap to hire. Believe me, I've worked with them. They are just as lazy as British people

 

Wuv u xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo

Edited 25 July, 2009 by Calvin

[hamster]

If I am honest and it were me working at the OP's place, I would be out of the door. Not because of the hours, not because the ex-manager fell down the step and not because of the low pay. I'd be out becasue he simply is not happy there.

 

I could write loads about my best and worst jobs. If I am honest the best paid one, was the one that took me away from my family the most (dur), but I took it thinking that more money would equate to a better lifestyle.

 

It is one of those 'light-bulb moments' when you realise what is really importatnt in this life (REMEMBER that this is not a dress rehearsal Saint Clark my friend), I know it is a cliche but no-on ever had "I wish I'd spent more time at work" written on their gravestone.

 

I know there are not a lot of jobs out there right now, but there are jobs. Bad jobs really are not worth getting stressed over, believe me I know.

 

As said earlier I have been down the industrial tribunal route and it wasn't about the money, it really wasn't (I can't even remember how much I got in the end). It was about the (so called) satisfaction of being proven right, which I knew I was anyway. I carried on putting my family and worst of all myself through crap and at the end of the day NOTHING CHANGED; the arseholes who made my life a misery are still arseholes making someone else's lives a misery, NOT MINE though. Was it really worth it? Not one bit, not one bit.

 

There are some lessons in life that you need to learn early on clarky, I think you have learnt one here. Move on mate, move on.

Edited 25 July, 2009 by hamster

[Smirking_Saint]

If I am honest and it were me working at the OP's place, I would be out of the door. Not because of the hours, not because the ex-manager fell down the step and not because of the low pay. I'd be out becasue he simply is not happy there.

 

I could write loads about my best and worst jobs. If I am honest the best paid one, was the one that took me away from my family the most (dur), but I took it thinking that more money would equate to a better lifestyle.

 

It is one of those 'light-bulb moments' when you realise what is really importatnt in this life (REMEMBER that this is not a dress rehearsal Saint Clark my friend), I know it is a cliche but no-on ever had "I wish I'd spent more time at work" written on their gravestone.

 

I know there are not a lot of jobs out there right now, but there are jobs. Bad jobs really are not worth getting stressed over, believe me I know.

 

As said earlier I have been down the industrial tribunal route and it wasn't about the money, it really wasn't (I can't even remember how much I got in the end). It was about the (so called) satisfaction of being proven right, which I knew I was anyway. I carried on putting my family and worst of all myself through crap and at the end of the day NOTHING CHANGED; the arseholes who made my life a misery are still arseholes making someone else's lives a misery, NOT MINE though. Was it really worth it? Not one bit, not one bit.

 

There are some lessons in life that you need to learn early on clarky, I think you have learnt one here. Move on mate, move on.

 

Spot on.

 

It's crazy how much more happy i am since i moved jobs, crazy.

 

Although i knew i was not happy in the last job i can see now just how unhappy i was, and i never knew until i moved on.

 

You work to live St Clark, you don't Live to work