Puddings and Monkeys Posted 22 July, 2009 Share Posted 22 July, 2009 I think the figure is a little disappointing. I let my season ticket go last year so I don't get the cheap renewal and work means I might not be able to get to as many games. A price somewhere between our price and the Bradford price would have been a no-brainer but I can't afford to buy a ticket (and one for my nipper) at these prices - it'll be pay per game. The thought of under 20,000 people in St Mary's fills me with fear - it's horrible, there is just no atmosphere - at least not enough to create a fortress! Maybe this Saturday's game will change my mind. We're in League 1 FFS and look like seeing an increse in ST sales after several years of decline!!! What more do you want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scummer Posted 22 July, 2009 Share Posted 22 July, 2009 I think the figure is a little disappointing. I let my season ticket go last year so I don't get the cheap renewal and work means I might not be able to get to as many games. A price somewhere between our price and the Bradford price would have been a no-brainer but I can't afford to buy a ticket (and one for my nipper) at these prices - it'll be pay per game. The thought of under 20,000 people in St Mary's fills me with fear - it's horrible, there is just no atmosphere - at least not enough to create a fortress! Maybe this Saturday's game will change my mind. If you are going to most of the games, a season ticket is much cheaper than paying by the game. You get something like 9 games free. And the pair prices to add a child are great, I got my 7 year old nephew a season ticket for free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkeith Posted 22 July, 2009 Share Posted 22 July, 2009 I think (Nobby) that I read a message from someone like you, that had let their Season Ticket lapse, but they still got the renewal price, as they were on the datbase as a former ST holder. Might be worth asking at the Box office on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scummer Posted 22 July, 2009 Share Posted 22 July, 2009 I think (Nobby) that I read a message from someone like you, that had let their Season Ticket lapse, but they still got the renewal price, as they were on the datbase as a former ST holder. Might be worth asking at the Box office on Saturday. Depending on where you sit, the renewal price is hardly any different to the normal price anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather Posted 22 July, 2009 Share Posted 22 July, 2009 My season ticket works out at an average of £12.50 per game. Great value. As David Luker stated their priority is ST sales as this our core income. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 22 July, 2009 Share Posted 22 July, 2009 I think (Nobby) that I read a message from someone like you, that had let their Season Ticket lapse, but they still got the renewal price, as they were on the datbase as a former ST holder. This is true, and it irks me a little - not just because it removes that little bonus incentive for those who continued to pay for a season ticket over recent years, but also because the club a robbing themselves. A mate of mine hasn't bought a season ticket since we got relegated from the Prem and still got the renewal price. He also bought one for his missus (who has never had a season ticket) and she got the renewal price also!!! :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draino76 Posted 22 July, 2009 Share Posted 22 July, 2009 We're in League 1 FFS and look like seeing an increse in ST sales after several years of decline!!! What more do you want? He wants cheaper prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 22 July, 2009 Share Posted 22 July, 2009 Depending on where you sit, the renewal price is hardly any different to the normal price anyway. This is true, and it irks me a little - not just because it removes that little bonus incentive for those who continued to pay for a season ticket over recent years, but also because the club a robbing themselves. A mate of mine hasn't bought a season ticket since we got relegated from the Prem and still got the renewal price. He also bought one for his missus (who has never had a season ticket) and she got the renewal price also!!! :mad:I have heard from David Luker on this subject and it is (clearly) a mistake on the part of the person selling the ticket. I don't expect the mistake to be repeated - it is just the good fortune of those that have gotten away with it thus far. Where I sit the difference between a renewal and a new ticket is £54 so it is revenue the club cannot afford to chuck away IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints triumph Posted 22 July, 2009 Share Posted 22 July, 2009 8700 sold so far. Article on OS now.ld Thats what I was told when I got my season ticket. There was a steady stream of people buying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puddings and Monkeys Posted 22 July, 2009 Share Posted 22 July, 2009 He wants cheaper prices. Thank you...it's all much clearer now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjwills Posted 22 July, 2009 Share Posted 22 July, 2009 I have heard from David Luker on this subject and it is (clearly) a mistake on the part of the person selling the ticket. I don't expect the mistake to be repeated - it is just the good fortune of those that have gotten away with it thus far. Where I sit the difference between a renewal and a new ticket is £54 so it is revenue the club cannot afford to chuck away IMHO. Yeah and where I sit its a whole hundred pennies !!! club must be really desperate for that £1.00 eh!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 22 July, 2009 Share Posted 22 July, 2009 Yeah and where I sit its a whole hundred pennies !!! club must be really desperate for that £1.00 eh!!!!!!What is your point? Completely irrelevant chum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Nobby Posted 22 July, 2009 Share Posted 22 July, 2009 Guys, what I was trying to say was that, due to work I may not be able to get to as many games as I'd have liked to. It's possible that I may have to miss at least 6 home games - I'll probably see about 10 away games - if the ticket was, for example, £250 I'd have got one, and one for my 15 year old son. If the tickets had been that price I think we'd have sold a lot more already - especially if it was an early bird limited offer. I also stand by comment that SMS is never going to become a fortress with crowds of less than 20,000. The crowds will come with good results but this is going to be a very hard season. We played Ajax with just over 20,000 people (many of who were on free tickets) and half of them left before the end as we shipped goals - if things aren't going well by week 6 or 7 of the season I hate to think how many people will be watching. Yes I wanted cheaper prices but whatever happens, like many of us, I'll be spending more than I should afford yet again - I just hope this season it will be worth it, because for the last 3 years it hasn't! COME ON YOU REDS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjwills Posted 22 July, 2009 Share Posted 22 July, 2009 Guys, what I was trying to say was that, due to work I may not be able to get to as many games as I'd have liked to. It's possible that I may have to miss at least 6 home games - I'll probably see about 10 away games - if the ticket was, for example, £250 I'd have got one, and one for my 15 year old son. If the tickets had been that price I think we'd have sold a lot more already - especially if it was an early bird limited offer. I also stand by comment that SMS is never going to become a fortress with crowds of less than 20,000. The crowds will come with good results but this is going to be a very hard season. We played Ajax with just over 20,000 people (many of who were on free tickets) and half of them left before the end as we shipped goals - if things aren't going well by week 6 or 7 of the season I hate to think how many people will be watching. Yes I wanted cheaper prices but whatever happens, like many of us, I'll be spending more than I should afford yet again - I just hope this season it will be worth it, because for the last 3 years it hasn't! COME ON YOU REDS! By my calculations that means you are prepared to pay £500.00 for 2 season ticket at £250.00 each but the club will let you have one for both of you for £413.00 in the family enclosure. £454.00 in the wings/Northam or for an additional £11.00 over the original £500.00 2 in the Center stands. So when you calculate that after 14 games at ticket pricing the season ticket is paying for itself, so if you are going to miss 6 games you will still be saving between £66.00 to £75.00. Simples Get a ST and save money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
explorer saint Posted 22 July, 2009 Share Posted 22 July, 2009 Yeah and where I sit its a whole hundred pennies !!! club must be really desperate for that £1.00 eh!!!!!! Exactly, disapointed that for all my years of being a ST holder I got exactly a £1 discount, oh yes I got a free ticket to a meaningless friendly as well! Something not quite right here, if they are trying to get back in with their loyal supporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 22 July, 2009 Share Posted 22 July, 2009 Exactly, disapointed that for all my years of being a ST holder I got exactly a £1 discount, oh yes I got a free ticket to a meaningless friendly as well! Something not quite right here, if they are trying to get back in with their loyal supporters.It is a bit odd that the price differential in the wings is significant but not in the centre.....but it is also a moot point if they sell to everyone at the renewal price anyway whether they have a current season ticket or not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattlehead Posted 22 July, 2009 Share Posted 22 July, 2009 Still rising? As opposed to falling? No way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draino76 Posted 22 July, 2009 Share Posted 22 July, 2009 Still rising? As opposed to falling? No way. Way. I am for interested in the second derivative; ie the acceleration of season ticket sales. If the rate of sales is increasing, that would be a story. I know the 2nd derivative of season ticket sales could only rise for say 10 days as by then, the SMS would be sold out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morph Posted 22 July, 2009 Share Posted 22 July, 2009 [quote name= As David Luker stated their priority is ST sales as this our core income.[/quote] Looks like Luker has finally learnt that Season Ticket Holders are more important than Membership Members. Anyone else remember Luker giving preference to Members above Season Ticket holders in granting away tickets? What a joke. Regards Morph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted 22 July, 2009 Share Posted 22 July, 2009 Looks like Luker has finally learnt that Season Ticket Holders are more important than Membership Members. Anyone else remember Luker giving preference to Members above Season Ticket holders in granting away tickets? What a joke. Regards Morph That never happened. It was always.. ST Holders 5 away games or more Members 5 away games or more ST Holders 4 away games Members 4 away games etc.. For small allocations, that was the fairest possible way of doing it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintsfannick Posted 23 July, 2009 Share Posted 23 July, 2009 if we well that many season tickets they need 2 open the fookin corners up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 23 July, 2009 Share Posted 23 July, 2009 Guys, what I was trying to say was that, due to work I may not be able to get to as many games as I'd have liked to. It's possible that I may have to miss at least 6 home games - I'll probably see about 10 away games - if the ticket was, for example, £250 I'd have got one, and one for my 15 year old son. If the tickets had been that price I think we'd have sold a lot more already - especially if it was an early bird limited offer. I also stand by comment that SMS is never going to become a fortress with crowds of less than 20,000. The crowds will come with good results but this is going to be a very hard season. We played Ajax with just over 20,000 people (many of who were on free tickets) and half of them left before the end as we shipped goals - if things aren't going well by week 6 or 7 of the season I hate to think how many people will be watching. Yes I wanted cheaper prices but whatever happens, like many of us, I'll be spending more than I should afford yet again - I just hope this season it will be worth it, because for the last 3 years it hasn't! COME ON YOU REDS! I've always felt that it should be possible to buy something like a 75% deduction season ticket for those living some way away from Southampton who find it impossible to get to evening games. Or to allow 25% of home games missed, because of rescheduling into midweek, to be allowed against away games tickets. I bought a season this year (gave last year a miss), though I know it is going to be impossible to get to at least 25-30% of games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 23 July, 2009 Share Posted 23 July, 2009 Exactly, disapointed that for all my years of being a ST holder I got exactly a £1 discount, oh yes I got a free ticket to a meaningless friendly as well! Something not quite right here, if they are trying to get back in with their loyal supporters. But its £10 difference for Seniors. That was the extra I paid for not having a season last year. Not bothered about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bourne Valley Saint Posted 23 July, 2009 Share Posted 23 July, 2009 Perhaps if the club sent out a few reminders to last year's season ticket holders that would help sales! I had 3 last season and haven't renewed as yet. I'd completely forgotten about it until a mate rang and reminded me a couple of days ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 23 July, 2009 Share Posted 23 July, 2009 I've always felt that it should be possible to buy something like a 75% deduction season ticket for those living some way away from Southampton who find it impossible to get to evening games. Do you really mean a 75% deduction or do you mean a ticket at 75% of the normal cost? There is a significant difference between the two. Either way, how could they make that work? What you are asking them to do is sell a season ticket below the normal value just because you cannot make all the games. If they had a policy like that it would be a nightmare. They cannot afford to throw money away so they would have to recoup the difference by reselling the ticket for the games that you decide you cannot attend. It would be an admin disaster and completely unworkable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 23 July, 2009 Share Posted 23 July, 2009 Do you really mean a 75% deduction or do you mean a ticket at 75% of the normal cost? There is a significant difference between the two. Either way, how could they make that work? What you are asking them to do is sell a season ticket below the normal value just because you cannot make all the games. If they had a policy like that it would be a nightmare. They cannot afford to throw money away so they would have to recoup the difference by reselling the ticket for the games that you decide you cannot attend. It would be an admin disaster and completely unworkable. It is a pretty stupid idea if the suggestion is a 75% price reduction for missing, say 6 or 7 games (I haven't checked). Though a "weekend matches only" ST would be workable with a proportionate price, and I think would be a good idea in principle, though I doubt we'd shift more than a hundred. However, it might also end up costing the club money as some of those weekend-only ST attendees might have otherwise stumped up for the full ST or individual tickets at the full price. I mean I'd like an ST where I get the weekend of V Festival reduced from the cost, but it ain't gonna happen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 23 July, 2009 Share Posted 23 July, 2009 I'll be getting mine on payday friday 31st. I also agree they should have sent something out. This is the first year I didn't recieve a renewal form. They should send out the prices to everyone on the database. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Posted 23 July, 2009 Share Posted 23 July, 2009 Though a "weekend matches only" ST would be workable with a proportionate price, and I think would be a good idea in principle, though I doubt we'd shift more than a hundred. The other problem with a "Weekend Only" ST would be if games get re-organised from a weekday to a weekend (or vice versa), you'd have to either let people in "free" (or at least unbudgeted when the price was determined) or the ticket holders will be disappointed as they are getting less games than they expect (and paid for). I think there would be a market for something like a "10 games for the price of 8" book of vouchers which would encourage people like myself who would expect to attend between 6 and 10 home games in a season to visit more often, and might encourage people to upgrade to a season ticket the following season. You'd have to 'buy' individual tickets for a specific game with your vouchers when they went on sale so there'd be little overhead for the ticket office to run the scheme, you probably could get away without even printing physical vouchers, just had a receipt printed saying "5 games remaining" everytime you make a purchase, you could even spend the 'vouchers' on multiple tickets for the same game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alehouseboys Posted 23 July, 2009 Share Posted 23 July, 2009 Perhaps if the club sent out a few reminders to last year's season ticket holders that would help sales! I had 3 last season and haven't renewed as yet. I'd completely forgotten about it until a mate rang and reminded me a couple of days ago. Gotta say I'm also a little surprised at the lack of any marketing through the post. Last season was the first time I haven't had a ST since the Dell went all-seater, member before that, virtual ever-present since early 70s. They shut the part of the ground that housed my seat last season so along with a number of other 'die-hards' I sit/stand with didn't bother relocating and just paid-on-the-day (what with ol' Rupes returning and tickets were always gonna be easy to get). Surely the old regime didn't wipe the database before exiting SMS, did they? Would have been nice for many long-standing ST holders who, for the above reasons, lapsed last year (that was partly down to club policy), could have been offered the chance to return at the renewal prices...but...I accept my punishment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northam soul Posted 23 July, 2009 Share Posted 23 July, 2009 I would of thought it would be a good idea to offer an alternative to a full season ticket and half season ticket with a scheme where perhaps you can buy say 10 games or even 5 games at a reduced price and use them when you can go. I realise you may not be able to guarantee the same seat if you decide on a last minute visit but a 10 game book for say £175.00 which is about half way between a season ticket and match day prices could work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonraker Posted 23 July, 2009 Share Posted 23 July, 2009 I would of thought it would be a good idea to offer an alternative to a full season ticket and half season ticket with a scheme where perhaps you can buy say 10 games or even 5 games at a reduced price and use them when you can go. I realise you may not be able to guarantee the same seat if you decide on a last minute visit but a 10 game book for say £175.00 which is about half way between a season ticket and match day prices could work. I really like this idea, it has two great advantages; for those of us who are unable to get to enough matches to justify a season ticket it means we pay up front , its money in the bank for the club and secondly it would provide additioanal motivation (as if any should be needed) to attend games wahtever the current performance. As I commented on the membership thread having something in my pocket that says 'yes I am a commited saints supporter' is important to me and this idea is at least one step up from memberships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffo Posted 23 July, 2009 Share Posted 23 July, 2009 Am doing all Saturday games, can't do midweek for one reason or another. Would buy a season ticket if blocks 1-3 were opened. Also, tried to get tickets for the Millwall game on Monday in block 4, and all the top of block 4 was sold out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastcowzer Posted 23 July, 2009 Share Posted 23 July, 2009 Sounds about right, actually. The tickets were free with season ticket renewals. I was sent 3, but could only use 2. I imagine 3,000+ of the tickets issued weren't used. You were lucky. I renewed on the first day and am still waiting for the Ajax 'freebie'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 23 July, 2009 Share Posted 23 July, 2009 Exactly, disapointed that for all my years of being a ST holder I got exactly a £1 discount, oh yes I got a free ticket to a meaningless friendly as well! Something not quite right here, if they are trying to get back in with their loyal supporters. Me too. Not much of a discount was it? Just got visa card statement today which brought the point home. 2 season tickets, 1 extra £10 for Ajax on top of the 2 frees plus a season's parking ...total c £840 . Not cheap for 3rd division, and not much reward for my 17th year as a season ticket holder. Still ..we've got a club eh! What else would I spend it on? K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 23 July, 2009 Share Posted 23 July, 2009 I'll be getting mine on payday friday 31st. I also agree they should have sent something out. This is the first year I didn't recieve a renewal form. They should send out the prices to everyone on the database. They appear to have decided they are too busy selingg tickets so that there isn't time to post out forms to generate more sales (another problem the bloody pinnacle timewasting caused)...nor for parking season tickets either, but I did get an email with prices ..after I'd renewed! K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted 23 July, 2009 Share Posted 23 July, 2009 Perhaps if the club sent out a few reminders to last year's season ticket holders that would help sales! I had 3 last season and haven't renewed as yet. I'd completely forgotten about it until a mate rang and reminded me a couple of days ago. When I questioned the fact there was no postal information, I was told it was due to time constraints and unable to produce forms for renewals. However surely they could have sent all on the database a note to this fact, and that you should ring or buy online. Feel that many outside Southampton could be unaware of the situation this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 23 July, 2009 Share Posted 23 July, 2009 When I questioned the fact there was no postal information, I was told it was due to time constraints and unable to produce forms for renewals. However surely they could have sent all on the database a note to this fact, and that you should ring or buy online. Feel that many outside Southampton could be unaware of the situation this year. TBF we can all sit and say "it would be better if they did this or did that" but we didn`t even know if we had a club or whether the employees had jobs until recently. We are where we are this year so I think that we have to accept that the system is going to be less than perfect through lack of time. Next year should be a different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 23 July, 2009 Share Posted 23 July, 2009 You were lucky. I renewed on the first day and am still waiting for the Ajax 'freebie'.You had to specifically ask for it otherwise it wasn't included. Did you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 23 July, 2009 Share Posted 23 July, 2009 Record season ticket sales after Lowe's exit... mmm ... wonder why? Nice being vindicated again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puddings and Monkeys Posted 23 July, 2009 Share Posted 23 July, 2009 Record season ticket sales after Lowe's exit... mmm ... wonder why? Nice being vindicated again. Yes Robbie, I remember your "Lowe's coming back!! Lowe's coming back!!" ramblings - you were spot on with that one hey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 23 July, 2009 Share Posted 23 July, 2009 Record season ticket sales after Lowe's exit... mmm ... wonder why? Nice being vindicated again. hmm i may be wrong but im sure we hadmore than 9k season ticket holders when in the prem....not too sure where the record is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Fandango Posted 23 July, 2009 Share Posted 23 July, 2009 Record season ticket sales after Lowe's exit... mmm ... wonder why? Nice being vindicated again. Although the ticket sales are very promising they are hardly record breaking are they. Why bring everything back to Lowe, anyone would think you have some sort of obsession? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints_is_the_south Posted 23 July, 2009 Share Posted 23 July, 2009 hmm i may be wrong but im sure we hadmore than 9k season ticket holders when in the prem....not too sure where the record is... 22k i think it was for the season after the cup final. About 13k in the first two years in the CCC & then down to about 9k for the last 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 23 July, 2009 Share Posted 23 July, 2009 22k i think it was for the season after the cup final. About 13k in the first two years in the CCC & then down to about 9k for the last 2. ah i can see the records being smashed right now.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonian Posted 23 July, 2009 Share Posted 23 July, 2009 i think saints could of gained a lot of ex regulars back by offering season tickets at the same rate as exsisting season tickets from last year, a lot of people have got out of the habit of going, we need to attract these fans back, i know many who set a limit of £300 on getting a ticket, i like many of you would of renewed no matter what the price, i certainly would not of had a problem if they had offered tickets at the same price for everyone, although ticket sales are good, i honestly think we could of gained another 5000 fans, a good friend of mine who has got heavily into golf is a great example, all summer he has been going on about getting a season ticket, he even left me his credit card details when he went on holiday, providing it was below £300, now he will go to about 4/5 games this season, giving saints £110 instead of £300, i feel with the new start we have missed out big time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 23 July, 2009 Share Posted 23 July, 2009 Although the ticket sales are very promising they are hardly record breaking are they. They arent bad for a league One side starting with -10 points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IFHP Posted 23 July, 2009 Share Posted 23 July, 2009 Excuses excuses. No of Saturday home games 20 Cost of an adult ticket £22 20 x £22 = £440 Cost for a new season ticket holder £342 so if you can only make Saturday games you will be better off buying a season ticket, in fact if you intend to go to 16 out of 23 home games you are still better off buying a season ticket. Everybody wanted someone invest £12 or £13 million to buy Saints but some don’t wish to invest any of their own money or expect season tickets to be under £250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather Posted 23 July, 2009 Share Posted 23 July, 2009 Excuses excuses. No of Saturday home games 20 Cost of an adult ticket £22 20 x £22 = £440 Cost for a new season ticket holder £342 so if you can only make Saturday games you will be better off buying a season ticket, in fact if you intend to go to 16 out of 23 home games you are still better off buying a season ticket. Everybody wanted someone invest £12 or £13 million to buy Saints but some don’t wish to invest any of their own money or expect season tickets to be under £250. Exactly. My season ticket cost me £288 and works out at £ 12.52 a game, can't go wrong at that price. Even the price of £342 the cost for non-renewal in the same area works out at £14.86 a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonian Posted 23 July, 2009 Share Posted 23 July, 2009 Excuses excuses. No of Saturday home games 20 Cost of an adult ticket £22 20 x £22 = £440 Cost for a new season ticket holder £342 so if you can only make Saturday games you will be better off buying a season ticket, in fact if you intend to go to 16 out of 23 home games you are still better off buying a season ticket. Everybody wanted someone invest £12 or £13 million to buy Saints but some don’t wish to invest any of their own money or expect season tickets to be under £250. i agree with that, and myself and 12,000 others will buy season tickets, but our stadium holds 32,000 we need to attract people back, league one football and minus 10 points is not an attractive option in a credit crunch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 23 July, 2009 Share Posted 23 July, 2009 i agree with that, and myself and 12,000 others will buy season tickets, but our stadium holds 32,000 we need to attract people back, league one football and minus 10 points is not an attractive option in a credit crunch Us overseas mebbers will visit when we can, discount or no discount... and if you think teaching english abroad makes me rich.... think again.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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