Tac-tics Posted 20 July, 2009 Posted 20 July, 2009 Saints v.s Millwall - 12.45pm Portsmouth v.s Rangers - 3.00pm Basically asking for trouble? Surely the Poopey game has to be re-arranged?
chrisobee Posted 20 July, 2009 Posted 20 July, 2009 Well it could hardly be worse since in my experience these are the 3 of the teams that caused most trouble at Saints in the past albeit mainly in the mid 70's though I fear it will not have changed. Grief it would be even be possible for Skate/Rangers fans to attend at least some of the Saints game. A potential nightmare I reckon and ridiculous timing so indeed they should move the Pompey game, preferably to Ibrox !
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 20 July, 2009 Posted 20 July, 2009 I think this was mentioned on another thread a while ago, and as someone said there, really the only real place any of the four sets of fans are likely to meet en masse is London. It does seem a bit stupid though, I assume they won't have many police at notarf krap as its just a friendly, otherwise Hampshire Constabulary are going to be rather stretched!
chrisobee Posted 20 July, 2009 Posted 20 July, 2009 Hmm, I don't think Pompey and Rangers do "friendlies" !
docker-p Posted 20 July, 2009 Posted 20 July, 2009 Hmm, I don't think Pompey and Rangers do "friendlies" ! Rangers might not but Portsmyth? Not on Rangers Radar.
chrisobee Posted 20 July, 2009 Posted 20 July, 2009 Rangers might not but Portsmyth? Not on Rangers Radar. Well we were in 1974 though it was no exactly a friendly, think it was a Texaco Cup match at the Dell and they did not like losing ( both home and away as it turned out ! ) Worst game for trouble I ever saw at the Dell.
lordswoodsaints Posted 20 July, 2009 Posted 20 July, 2009 Too many people read too much into the saints Pompey thing,99% of saints and Pompey fans are only mouthy from a distance and can't be arsed or are too scared to take it any further. There are always going to be a minority who go that extra mile and if they turn up looking for a fight then I'm sure they will find exactly what they were looking for. From experience the only people who get hurt or are doing the hurting are the people who are expecting it. 6.57 is the time you go to bed,6.57 is the time you go to bed.:-)
docker-p Posted 20 July, 2009 Posted 20 July, 2009 Well we were in 1974 though it was no exactly a friendly, think it was a Texaco Cup match at the Dell and they did not like losing ( both home and away as it turned out ! ) Worst game for trouble I ever saw at the Dell. True, I remember it (just). What I'm saying is Rangers wouldn't be interested in turning out for PFC any more than any other English club. And Millwall don't bother anymore since the police follow their every move from the second they leave home in the morning.
Thedelldays Posted 20 July, 2009 Posted 20 July, 2009 cant see many rangers fans coming down from glasgow to be fair
John B Posted 20 July, 2009 Posted 20 July, 2009 cant see many rangers fans coming down from glasgow to be fair Yes but like the really big clubs they have fans everywhere
70's Mike Posted 20 July, 2009 Posted 20 July, 2009 cant see many rangers fans coming down from glasgow to be fair from London?
scott_saints Posted 20 July, 2009 Posted 20 July, 2009 The yoof will teach them all a lesson in football violence, f'sure.
The Godfather Posted 20 July, 2009 Posted 20 July, 2009 cant see many rangers fans coming down from glasgow to be fair All of their tickets have been sold to Rangers season ticket holders and thay've taken the whole away end at Fratton.
Thedelldays Posted 20 July, 2009 Posted 20 July, 2009 All of their tickets have been sold to Rangers season ticket holders and thay've taken the whole away end at Fratton. not many then
martyg1950 Posted 20 July, 2009 Posted 20 July, 2009 Well we were in 1974 though it was no exactly a friendly, think it was a Texaco Cup match at the Dell and they did not like losing ( both home and away as it turned out ! ) Worst game for trouble I ever saw at the Dell. Wasn't that the 'Anglo-Scottish Cup' I went to the Dell leg of that, supporters all mixed up together, mostly acting as per stereotype and therefore comatose for the second half :-) On the pitch we took them apart! Great memories
Dog Posted 20 July, 2009 Posted 20 July, 2009 cant see many rangers fans coming down from glasgow to be fair You are joking surely?
StuRomseySaint Posted 20 July, 2009 Posted 20 July, 2009 Good stuff, not only P*mpey having a reason to come here, but Southampton is renowned for having a very large Catholic Northern Irish community, hence Celtic fans. Could be interested, but it won't, can't see either team travelling..... having said that, I wouldn't be suprised if Millwall went back to London via P*mpey, they f*cking hate them!
Saintjersey Posted 20 July, 2009 Posted 20 July, 2009 You are joking surely? I don't think loads will come down from Glasgow, but there are Rangers fans all over the country so there will still be a huge following.
This Charming Man Posted 20 July, 2009 Posted 20 July, 2009 cant see many rangers fans coming down from glasgow to be fair I take it you're being sarcastic?
um pahars Posted 20 July, 2009 Posted 20 July, 2009 Wasn't that the 'Anglo-Scottish Cup' I went to the Dell leg of that, supporters all mixed up together, mostly acting as per stereotype and therefore comatose for the second half :-) On the pitch we took them apart! Great memories If it's the 1974 game you're on about, then it was definitely the Texaco Cup game. It was my first game and I remember as you say, with home and away supporters mixed in together at the Archers Road End, with the Rangers fans all seemingly pssed. I can remember them lobbing beer cans at Channon and being covered in beer as they flew overhead (or was it pss!!!!!).
Toadhall Saint Posted 20 July, 2009 Posted 20 July, 2009 If theres trouble it'll be at Waterloo between Millwall & Rangers IMO.
Thedelldays Posted 20 July, 2009 Posted 20 July, 2009 I take it you're being sarcastic? no im sure there will be loads of rangers fans..they are all over the place.. but how many can that end of fratton hold..? how many will actually come from glasgow itself..?
chrisobee Posted 20 July, 2009 Posted 20 July, 2009 If it's the 1974 game you're on about, then it was definitely the Texaco Cup game. It was my first game and I remember as you say, with home and away supporters mixed in together at the Archers Road End, with the Rangers fans all seemingly pssed. I can remember them lobbing beer cans at Channon and being covered in beer as they flew overhead (or was it pss!!!!!). Both I think, a horrible experience Yes, I was in the Archers Rd end as usual and there must have been a good few thousand Rangers fans.
chrisobee Posted 20 July, 2009 Posted 20 July, 2009 (edited) Wasn't that the 'Anglo-Scottish Cup' I went to the Dell leg of that, supporters all mixed up together, mostly acting as per stereotype and therefore comatose for the second half :-) On the pitch we took them apart! Great memories 3-1 at Ibrox and 2-0 at The Dell so at least we stuffed them on the pitch ! Reached the final, lost I think to Newcastle aet. Edit: Ah found it in the excellent History of the Saints 1885-1987, still got my original copy complete with my name and that of my Dad amongst the 770 who subscribed pre publication. Also notice amongst others John Motson ( of course!), Derek Obee ( distant relative), Ron Davies and Micky Channon. Edited 20 July, 2009 by chrisobee
The Majestic Channon Posted 20 July, 2009 Posted 20 July, 2009 I remember saints v rangers in a friendly cica 81? rangers packed the whole of the archers, they will be down in force again.
RonManager Posted 20 July, 2009 Posted 20 July, 2009 I remember that Rangers game well. Afterwards we walked up the pitch from the Milton Road End to get out through the Archers road end (I lived in Greville Road then). I remember climbing over the wall and the terraces were soaking wet and it stunk of ****!!
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 20 July, 2009 Posted 20 July, 2009 Here's a few friendly faces to look out for http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/08/uk_enl_1248084956/html/1.stm
saint_mears Posted 20 July, 2009 Posted 20 July, 2009 Rangers have taken and sold 5000 tickets and no doubt more will come.
alehouseboys Posted 20 July, 2009 Posted 20 July, 2009 Rangers have taken and sold 5000 tickets and no doubt more will come. Wow, wonder if the skates will get a rare full-house at little ol' fartton then? They'll only need to muster 15k-or-so fans...come on, you can do it.....
70's Mike Posted 20 July, 2009 Posted 20 July, 2009 Rangers have taken and sold 5000 tickets and no doubt more will come. i suspect half the ground will have exiled jocks in it,
70's Mike Posted 20 July, 2009 Posted 20 July, 2009 Wow, wonder if the skates will get a rare full-house at little ol' fartton then? They'll only need to muster 15k-or-so fans...come on, you can do it..... no way!!!!!!!!!!
alehouseboys Posted 20 July, 2009 Posted 20 July, 2009 no way!!!!!!!!!! ...thinking about it, as a lot of the English based 'Gers will be buying 'home' tickets they'll probably only have to shift 10k themselves...
aintforever Posted 20 July, 2009 Posted 20 July, 2009 I doubt Millwall will want to mess with the mighty Yoof, more likely they will bottle it and head down portsmouth for a rumble with some gay sailor types.
mack rill Posted 20 July, 2009 Posted 20 July, 2009 not many then You have 3000 P**sed up sweeties in your back garden and see how you feel:smt065
Toadhall Saint Posted 20 July, 2009 Posted 20 July, 2009 You have 3000 P**sed up sweeties in your back garden and see how you feel:smt065 Would have thought that was right up your alley!
Iowsaintsfan Posted 20 July, 2009 Posted 20 July, 2009 You have 3000 P**sed up sweeties in your back garden and see how you feel:smt065 They will haved to be pi**ed up to go in there!
mcjwills Posted 20 July, 2009 Posted 20 July, 2009 You have 3000 P**sed up sweeties in your back garden and see how you feel:smt065 The expression is Sweaty as in sweaty sock jock
mcjwills Posted 20 July, 2009 Posted 20 July, 2009 I doubt Millwall will want to mess with the mighty Yoof, more likely they will bottle it and head down portsmouth for a rumble with some gay sailor types. And its idiots like you that will give them an excuse to show that they would not bottle it, remarks like this praising the violence of the "YOOF" are more likely to antagonise other fans and bring back the bad old days when it was hell to go to football, why don't you stop trying to destroy the good work ML is doing by encouraging young children back to ST Mary's with thier parents, by encouraging thugs to kick off and parents stop taking thier kid.
aintforever Posted 20 July, 2009 Posted 20 July, 2009 And its idiots like you that will give them an excuse to show that they would not bottle it, remarks like this praising the violence of the "YOOF" are more likely to antagonise other fans and bring back the bad old days when it was hell to go to football, why don't you stop trying to destroy the good work ML is doing by encouraging young children back to ST Mary's with thier parents, by encouraging thugs to kick off and parents stop taking thier kid. I was joking, dickhead.
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 20 July, 2009 Posted 20 July, 2009 Well we were in 1974 though it was no exactly a friendly, think it was a Texaco Cup match at the Dell and they did not like losing ( both home and away as it turned out ! ) Worst game for trouble I ever saw at the Dell. There were loads of them on the train back through Eastleigh that night. The O.B. had a struggle keeping them away from us. Yet in '77 when a few of us went up there for the pre season tournament we were treated well and hardly bought a round all weekend!
paulwantsapint Posted 20 July, 2009 Posted 20 July, 2009 How much will skates have to pay Rangers for the thousands of pounds worth of improvements when it all kicks off? Good chance that not arf krap will have 90% Rangers 7.5% police 2.5% Skates
chrisobee Posted 20 July, 2009 Posted 20 July, 2009 There were loads of them on the train back through Eastleigh that night. The O.B. had a struggle keeping them away from us. Yet in '77 when a few of us went up there for the pre season tournament we were treated well and hardly bought a round all weekend! O.B ? I stayed well away I assure you
Denzil Posted 20 July, 2009 Posted 20 July, 2009 And its idiots like you that will give them an excuse to show that they would not bottle it, remarks like this praising the violence of the "YOOF" are more likely to antagonise other fans and bring back the bad old days when it was hell to go to football, why don't you stop trying to destroy the good work ML is doing by encouraging young children back to ST Mary's with thier parents, by encouraging thugs to kick off and parents stop taking thier kid.
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 20 July, 2009 Posted 20 July, 2009 O.B ? I stayed well away I assure you When we got off at Eastleigh we were pelted with full beer cans. Luckily none made their intended target. I've never seen a footy fan waste beer, so we knew what was in them. We always had at least two O.B. on our train home, Eastleigh Boys, Winchester Boys, London Reds. Plus the odd few stray opposition if they weren't on a special.
chrisobee Posted 20 July, 2009 Posted 20 July, 2009 When we got off at Eastleigh we were pelted with full beer cans. Luckily none made their intended target. I've never seen a footy fan waste beer, so we knew what was in them. We always had at least two O.B. on our train home, Eastleigh Boys, Winchester Boys, London Reds. Plus the odd few stray opposition if they weren't on a special. Were you at Bradford in 1976 ? Leeds fans were allowed to buy tickets on the day as Saints did not sell their full allocation ( mainly as some fans did not go due to a massive hike in ticket prices) which was a disgrace. There was a steady stream of objects including full Party 4 cans, one hit my mate flush on the head, he barely felt it !
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 20 July, 2009 Posted 20 July, 2009 Were you at Bradford in 1976 ? Leeds fans were allowed to buy tickets on the day as Saints did not sell their full allocation ( mainly as some fans did not go due to a massive hike in ticket prices) which was a disgrace. There was a steady stream of objects including full Party 4 cans, one hit my mate flush on the head, he barely felt it ! Didn't miss a home or away game that season, including ALL the FA Cup games (Villa away on a Wednesday night). We were one of the few groups of lads who seemed to get away lightly from Bradford. As you say, it was the Leeds fans who were up for it.
Right sider Posted 20 July, 2009 Posted 20 July, 2009 The skates are worried it will kick off at Southsea common on Friday night, Millwall always went down early for the game at Fratton. The lure of Rangers fans in Pompey will be there for them.
Dan Posted 21 July, 2009 Posted 21 July, 2009 And its idiots like you that will give them an excuse to show that they would not bottle it, remarks like this praising the violence of the "YOOF" are more likely to antagonise other fans and bring back the bad old days when it was hell to go to football, why don't you stop trying to destroy the good work ML is doing by encouraging young children back to ST Mary's with thier parents, by encouraging thugs to kick off and parents stop taking thier kid. Could be the funniest and biggest load of sh/t I have ever read!
Red Stripe Posted 21 July, 2009 Posted 21 July, 2009 I think Basingstoke could be a bit of a bottleneck for fans that day - maybe steer clear of that nice little pub just outside the station.
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