derry Posted 19 July, 2009 Posted 19 July, 2009 Very well put about Paul Wotten - what is that all about? He is so far off the required standard even for this league - why oh why oh why is he still picked - no where near good enough and would not get my 'local' team, surely AP will have spotted he is not up to it, God about 20,000 others can see it a mile off......... Stewart Henderson ruined today as a footballing spectacle for me. It was a complete waste of time to play the way we did for 90 minutes. We made no attempt to pressurise Ajax whatsoever and played a ridiculously defensive system with everyone but the lone striker spending most of the match at least 10 yards inside their own half. What on earth we were supposed to learn from that, I have no idea. It was quite embarassing at times. The slide rule pass that put Lallana in to cross it for Mills to score was played by who.....? Spot on about the setup, we threw in the towel, raised the white flag and accepted that we weren't going to give them a game, instead of playing 4-4-2 and only one left back and having a right go. The coaching side needs a proper clearout as well. Wotton was awful, yes he made one pass, gave away more than 9 out of 10 of the rest, gave plenty of free kicks away, stopped the centre backs attacking the ball and disrupted the flow of the midfield by gifting the possession to the opposition time after time. Hopefully this is his last game for us.
andover pedro Posted 19 July, 2009 Posted 19 July, 2009 I took my son along for his first game ever at St. Marys; I told him it was Markus Liebherr's too. He had a great time and really wants to go back again - he's only seven - irrespective of the scoreline. I thought I would mark his day by taking my videocamera and am glad I did. I've put together some footage of Markus Liebherr, Alan Pardew in the Directors box and a montage put together by Saints TV. If you want to have a look at it, please help yourselves.... Nice One brought a tear to my eye especially 76' footage and MLT happy days
Thedelldays Posted 19 July, 2009 Posted 19 July, 2009 I took my son along for his first game ever at St. Marys; I told him it was Markus Liebherr's too. He had a great time and really wants to go back again - he's only seven - irrespective of the scoreline. I thought I would mark his day by taking my videocamera and am glad I did. I've put together some footage of Markus Liebherr, Alan Pardew in the Directors box and a montage put together by Saints TV. If you want to have a look at it, please help yourselves.... brilliant
Clifford Nelson Posted 19 July, 2009 Posted 19 July, 2009 I missed first 10minutes as my tickets didnt arrive nad traffic bad.That must have been when Rasiak was up for it, because I thought he was dire and not up for it.Thomas was unlucky for the penalty, Davis was very good Gillett did well.Molyneax at fault for 2nd goal, Mills did well and brilliant tackle to stop Rommadahl but then messed upp from the resulting corner.Much to do and playing 1 up front was dire.Thompson I notice somebody said is 1 to watch, for me he is not up to it at present.Lallana did a fancy trick and that was about it. It feels like you've cribbed this from my notes! Overall I observed how much time Ajax had on the ball all through the game and that we were always under pressure to hit hopeful ball up field. There is a lot to do here, but Pardew speaks the right language. He must have cribbed from my other notes. 4-5-1 is OK, but the striker must be the right one. Somebody who can receive the ball and hold it up. Everything bounces of Rasiak who hasn't got the energy for the role either, and Saga, who seems to have lost his pace, is one to play off another striker. We need somebody else.
Rasiak-9- Posted 19 July, 2009 Posted 19 July, 2009 Why is everyone here slating Rasiak? He was brilliant yesterday - held the ball up, gave a few good touches and even has got a bit of pace now that he's lost weight. With him up front a 4-5-1 actually works
Channon's Sideburns Posted 19 July, 2009 Posted 19 July, 2009 Why is everyone here slating Rasiak? He was brilliant yesterday - held the ball up, gave a few good touches and even has got a bit of pace now that he's lost weight. With him up front a 4-5-1 actually works Bloody hell..what game were you watching? He had a good 20mins, then it was back to the same old Rasiak...not on his toes to respond quickly to balls arriving at him, just nonchalontly sticking a leg out instead. TBF to him it was down to general team fitness around him that probably led to him being taken off - after the first 20 or so minutes, no-one was bursting through from midfield to support him. Saga was a waste of space...clear the forward decks please Pards!!!!
Thedelldays Posted 19 July, 2009 Posted 19 July, 2009 Rasiak never runs around...dont why some seem so surprised.. one thing, give me lazy rasiak over DMG, lallana, Peckhart upfront any day of the year
Rasiak-9- Posted 19 July, 2009 Posted 19 July, 2009 Bloody hell..what game were you watching? He had a good 20mins, then it was back to the same old Rasiak...not on his toes to respond quickly to balls arriving at him, just nonchalontly sticking a leg out instead. TBF to him it was down to general team fitness around him that probably led to him being taken off - after the first 20 or so minutes, no-one was bursting through from midfield to support him. Saga was a waste of space...clear the forward decks please Pards!!!! Rasiak was the one striker in a 4-5-1 against a vastly superior team that had at least 60% possession - he did his best and made a pest of himself when they had the ball, and when he did get a bit of service managed to make something of it and bring others into play. Going forward we actually looked half decent in the first half
benjii Posted 19 July, 2009 Posted 19 July, 2009 Rasiak was much better than Saga. No one could have achieved much being as isolated as he was, but his movement, touch and link-play was better than Saga's. One presumes we are never, NEVER, going to play like that in League One though, which again leads me to question what on earth Henderson was thinking.
NickG Posted 19 July, 2009 Posted 19 July, 2009 I thought it was a strange setp up - could only think wanted to prevent early fllod of goals from a much better side in front of new owner
benjii Posted 19 July, 2009 Posted 19 July, 2009 I thought it was a strange setp up - could only think wanted to prevent early fllod of goals from a much better side in front of new owner I can understand being cautious to begin with, but to stay like that for 90 minutes was crazy. It became pretty obvious after about 30 mins that we would barely manage another attempt on goal and were bound to concede a few. Not to change things at half-time was very odd IMO. To swap Rasiak for Saga and then later stick Patterson on the right wing and Thomson on the left smacked of the same kind of incomprehensible nonsense served up by Burley, Poortvliet and Wotte.
haddock22 Posted 19 July, 2009 Posted 19 July, 2009 How some people think rasiak had any sort of good game is beyond me.I admit he had little service but he cant create anything,balls just bounce of him which he is to slow to react toand he ambles around probably thiking I should be in a better team than this and I could have been saying any of this four years ago.
LeBoyer Posted 19 July, 2009 Posted 19 July, 2009 Originally Posted by LeBoyer I took my son along for his first game ever at St. Marys; I told him it was Markus Liebherr's too. He had a great time and really wants to go back again - he's only seven - irrespective of the scoreline. I thought I would mark his day by taking my videocamera and am glad I did. I've put together some footage of Markus Liebherr, Alan Pardew in the Directors box and a montage put together by Saints TV. If you want to have a look at it, please help yourselves.... brilliant Nice One brought a tear to my eye especially 76' footage and MLT happy days Guys, thanks for your comments - really appreciated. If I had full membership I would have posted this as a separate thread - think I might pay my £5 now... My son really enjoyed his first day and wants to go back - Millwall here we come....A new Saint has been born.
Ken Tone Posted 20 July, 2009 Posted 20 July, 2009 I can understand being cautious to begin with, but to stay like that for 90 minutes was crazy. It became pretty obvious after about 30 mins that we would barely manage another attempt on goal and were bound to concede a few. Not to change things at half-time was very odd IMO. To swap Rasiak for Saga and then later stick Patterson on the right wing and Thomson on the left smacked of the same kind of incomprehensible nonsense served up by Burley, Poortvliet and Wotte. Was very worried by the fixation with 4-5-1. Putting Paterson on the wing was especially daft. Anyone else wonder whether maybe Pardew asked Henderson to play 4-5-1 so he could see how the team played in that formation? Can't imagine any other reason why he wouldn't have changed shape during the game. AP said they'd spoken a few times before saturday. BTW is Gobern not fit? Holmes? Was surprised not to see either on the bench. K.
northam soul Posted 20 July, 2009 Posted 20 July, 2009 Agree, formation was ridiculous especially with the players we have, if your going to play one up you need width with pace which we just did not have. And i have seen some strange positional changes over the years but since when has patterson been a wide midfield player FFS. Only a friendly i know and certainly didnt expect us to win but they could of at least tried to be a bit more positive with the formation after all we are trying to win fans back to watch games.
Frank's cousin Posted 20 July, 2009 Posted 20 July, 2009 Too narrow (NO surprize our goal came from single time we went wide and to the touchline), way to deep, giving Ajaz total freedom in midfield - pointless playing 1 up front and then having no support comming through - Kelvin was strong, Jo Mills looks a prospect and from teh passing for our goal something for Pardue to work with... but we are SOOOO unfit - we need to get them running up sand dunes fast
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