sotonjoe Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 no I said i thought he would get it thats all .. gimme a break!!!!!!!!!!!!! you thought he'd walk out on mk dons or you thought we'd sack wotte and appoint ince whilst we were still in administration and without an owner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 A very weak appointment as manager who IMHO will not put bums on seats! Maybe he is the best we could expect BUT... no ..not a good start! In the Premier League Lowe gave us Steve Wigley. In the Championship it was Jan Poortvleit. Now we are -10 points adrift at the bottom of League 1 and you are not happy with Alan Pardew?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 You said you were disappointed in the appointment of AP. There must have been someone before today who was top of your list, or a group of managers, we just want to know who you wouldn't have been disappointed in ... so we can rip your suggestions to shreds. ahahahahahahahahahahahha:tfrag: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 In the Premier League Lowe gave us Steve Wigley. In the Championship it was Jan Poortvleit. Now we are -10 points adrift at the bottom of League 1 and you are not happy with Alan Pardew?!? a good bit of perspective there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corsacar saint Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Very proffessional people now running the club, they will do for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints triumph Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 The most positive I have felt about SAINTS in over 6 years. Long may that coninue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudsaint Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 For me the new regime has got every decision spot on so far. Its like a breath of fresh air after the last 13 years of embarrassment. I live in London and non-Saints football friends are already beginning to take us seriously again. They've been ****ing themselves laughing for years about Lowe's antics. Pardew is the best we could have hoped for in the current circumstances. We've a long way to go but under Liebherr I feel we've started to turn the corner. Up the Saints! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 A very weak appointment as manager who IMHO will not put bums on seats! Maybe he is the best we could expect BUT... no ..not a good start! It's not always about putting bums on seats. Sometimes you've got to look at the long term.....bums on seats in the long term is better than bums on seats for the ''initial'' reaction IMO... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianoneils slidingtackle Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 I feel very optimistic about the future of Saints, I don't expect a lot in the immediate few weeks but we are moving in the right direction. COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glkdcdes Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 i just thank every day that the idiot Lowe is not part of my club, but to date am very grateful and impressed with new regime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 i just thank every day that the idiot Lowe is not part of my club, but to date am very grateful and impressed with new regime It's great....and it's even better when you realise he's actually never ever ever going to be part of us again - he's got no say at all!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjphilsaint Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 ... so we can rip your suggestions to shreds. ahahahahahahahahahahahha:tfrag: says it all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Very proffessional people now running the club, they will do for me. You sure there aren't 2 'n's in proffessionnal? Anyway, I'll give them 9.5 out of 10 so far (don't want them relaxing thinking they've got it sorted just yet). The FL will probably give them -10. Oh yes, so they have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 I am cautiously optimistic about the future. Have been impressed with the new regime thus far,long may it continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waggy Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Seems to be handling sainst as he would any other part of his business and thats led to a 2.5 million fortune so I have to say my trust is 100%! Great start, Great stuff .. think you mean billion, either way its a lotta dosh ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgnorthSaint Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 and can´t wait for the new season- Lets get behind Alan and the boys and enjoy the football - Win or lose (Hopefully Win) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 what are you on about? Meaning John Madejski (sorry original spelling error) since buying Reading FC, has achieved the success with his club which I (we) expect. "(benchmark (plural benchmarks) a standard by which something is evaluated or measured)" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BotleySaint Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 I'm very much enjoying it at the moment. Whether that is simply naiveity to the true situation- the bad bits (and there is bound to be some) haven't yet been revealed. But I am quite happy in my igorance - roll on the new season, and some new (much needed) signings!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 I'm guessing of course, but I don't reckon that Mr Liebherr will be appointing you as his accountant any time soon...! ;-) LOL - just left him short of approx 2.5 bill do you think he'll notice? ' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joesaint Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Could not poss feel better about how this whole thing has gone. COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Once Liebherr opens his cheque book and shows some ambition, I will be happy. Until then, I will be wary of him and his ambitions and will watch him like a hawk I bet he's shatting himself. Until now he has delivered what he has promised - might be different if he had bought us and said **** it I only did it for a laugh. Lets keep Wotte. Also personally I don't think he needs to get his cheque book out to much extent - we are circa £5m better off as we have no mortgage to pay - that kind of money in this league goes a long way. That being said I firmly believe he will if needs be. As to showing ambition - don't make me laugh. He has bought us and installed a manager that has the credentials to get the job done. I'd be interested to understand what your definition of ambition is? For me 10 out of 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelkel31 Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 i think that gjphilsaint statement that AP was a 'very week' appointment was a little over the top, the fact that people are causing such a big fuss over his opinion is both very over the top and the reason why more people are not regular posters on this site. i stated early this morning that it was an underwhelming appointment, this is based on the same reasoning of gjphilsaint in that it didnt make me jump off my seat with massive excitement, if i was waiting to see who got the managers job to buy a ST or not it would not have pushed me into the former. this isnt to say he will not do a great job for saints, hes shown he is loyal and prepared and capable of building a team that can achieving success, of course only time will tell. my opinion is that football can be a great distraction from the day to day grind at work and sometimes at home, and everyone should be free to have what ever expectations they want and express those opinions. i personally wanted WGS as manager even if the only reason is that i think it would have brought a massive feel good factor to the club, which we all need after the last few years. this may have been unrealistic but i was in the majority in this view and dont try to tell me there was a massive clamor for AP to be given the job, there obviously wasnt! that being said he will get my full support and i look forward to seeing if he can bring any surprising and effective signings over the next couple of weeks, i think we need at least 3 or 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 I'm very much enjoying it at the moment. Whether that is simply naiveity to the true situation- the bad bits (and there is bound to be some) haven't yet been revealed. But I am quite happy in my igorance - roll on the new season, and some new (much needed) signings!! 'Ignorance is bliss' (From 'Ode on a Distant Prospect') Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wightman35 Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 In my opinion, the new regime have made a brilliant start. By the end of June, our beloved Saints faced extinction. A new structure began immediately and within days we now have a young yet experienced manager with by and large a winners record. He has been at lowly clubs and in the Premiership. Remember too that LM came from a lowly Grimsby and WGS came to us after a rather iffy spell at Coventry, so that neither came with undivided worship. I am so happy that the embarrasment of the Lowe / Wilde era is finished. Full marks to the new owners and management, so far; now for regular WINS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 I can understand those who are still a little hesitant and waiting before wholeheartedly endorsing the new regime... I did exactly teh same when Wilde first tunred up... the difference though for me now is that is a COMPLETELY NEW set up, no baggage and no pished off shareholders sat on the outside ready to cause trouble and plot because they have been unceremoniously dumped. Of course what we have heard so far is only words from Herr Liebherr, but they are words that ae far from hollow because they echo the way he has built and devloped his industrial business - steady growth, graft and commitment without stupid risks or 'looking for a quick buck' - long term planning and a strategy build on considered thought rather than knee -jerk reaction to appease fans - I think ML knows that a big name (who would have been expensive) may have generated a few extra ST sales, but the crowds will only return long term with success on teh pitch who ever is in charge. We are bound to have set backs and mistakes are bound to be made along teh way and only time and results will determine whether Purdue was the right choice, but thats football and sport in general and part of the reason why its so compelling (and frustrating) for fans - there are simpy no guarrantees. Mr Liebherr, I like your style ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 i think that gjphilsaint statement that AP was a 'very week' appointment was a little over the top, the fact that people are causing such a big fuss over his opinion is both very over the top and the reason why more people are not regular posters on this site. i stated early this morning that it was an underwhelming appointment, this is based on the same reasoning of gjphilsaint in that it didnt make me jump off my seat with massive excitement, if i was waiting to see who got the managers job to buy a ST or not it would not have pushed me into the former. this isnt to say he will not do a great job for saints, hes shown he is loyal and prepared and capable of building a team that can achieving success, of course only time will tell. my opinion is that football can be a great distraction from the day to day grind at work and sometimes at home, and everyone should be free to have what ever expectations they want and express those opinions. i personally wanted WGS as manager even if the only reason is that i think it would have brought a massive feel good factor to the club, which we all need after the last few years. this may have been unrealistic but i was in the majority in this view and dont try to tell me there was a massive clamor for AP to be given the job, there obviously wasnt! that being said he will get my full support and i look forward to seeing if he can bring any surprising and effective signings over the next couple of weeks, i think we need at least 3 or 4. The glamour that could have come with WGS was an exciting romance which I hoped might happen. But we're so fickle, it wouldn't take many defeats for all this to fizzle away. We probably were expecting too much of Strachan, and this perhaps might have been difficult to achieve. I think we are back in the realms of reality and cautious optimism, which is probably heathier, imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelkel31 Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 The glamour that could have come with WGS was an exciting romance which I hoped might happen. But we're so fickle, it wouldn't take many defeats for all this to fizzle away. We probably were expecting too much of Strachan, and this perhaps might have been difficult to achieve. I think we are back in the realms of reality and cautious optimism, which is probably heathier, imho. very true, and although i sincerely hope its not needed, i think WGS would have had a much longer honeymoon period than AP. i think AP needs to hit the ground running, there was great expectation when we went down into the CCC and i think the same it will be the same here, many parts of the team have not proved that they are Strong enough to deliver from the out set so the next 2 weeks will be vital to both saints and AP's hopes for the season. a lot has been made of the 10pt deduction, where in my opinion its not that big. if you pick the top 6 teams in the league and expect them to finish 1-6 (excluding saints) if we beat them all home and away(maybe unrealistic) its only a 4pt deficit, 2 games where we need to pick up points over them, this in mind a top 6 finish really isnt too much over expectation for the season but the start will be essential for both team morale( no relegation hangover) and that of the supporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint michael Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 given us hope when we had none Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Look at Markus Liebherr's record - I presume he could have easily sat on some cosy executive position the vast Liebherr family business and to be frank he would never had had to do anything out of the ordinary to live the type of uber comfortable , risk-free existence most of us can only dream of . But he didn't do that did he - he gave most of it up and set out on his own . Markus's highly successful 'MALI International Group' business concentrates on hi-tec precision engineering development in the best German tradition , yes I know it's hardly some romantic rags to riches story (more like riches to even more riches) but I still find that seriously impressive . I can hardly imagine a better owner for our long suffering club , the only cloud on the horizon being he's not exactly a young man anymore . Football is obviously very different from engineering but all the signs are he intends to carry over the same principles that have been successful in his other concerns into SFC - Investment/Professional Management/Stability . If you'll forgive a crude motoring analogy this club has been run like British Leyland for years , now we're BMW . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Look at Markus Liebherr's record - I presume he could have easily sat on some cosy executive position the vast Liebherr family business and to be frank he would never had had to do anything out of the ordinary to live the type of uber comfortable , risk-free existence most of us can only dream of . But he didn't do that did he - he gave most of it up and set out on his own . Markus's highly successful 'MALI International Group' business concentrates on hi-tec precision engineering development in the best German tradition , yes I know it's hardly some romantic rags to riches story (more like riches to even more riches) but I still find that seriously impressive . I can hardly imagine a better owner for our long suffering club , the only cloud on the horizon being he's not exactly a young man anymore . Football is obviously very different from engineering but all the signs are he intends to carry over the same principles that have been successful in his other concerns into SFC - Investment/Professional Management/Stability . If you'll forgive a crude motoring analogy this club has been run like British Leyland for years , now we're BMW . Very true - he goes about business the right way. He has a very successfull business model built on sound foundations, foundations that he is starting to build at SFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 I bet he's shatting himself. Until now he has delivered what he has promised - might be different if he had bought us and said **** it I only did it for a laugh. Lets keep Wotte. Also personally I don't think he needs to get his cheque book out to much extent - we are circa £5m better off as we have no mortgage to pay - that kind of money in this league goes a long way. That being said I firmly believe he will if needs be. As to showing ambition - don't make me laugh. He has bought us and installed a manager that has the credentials to get the job done. I'd be interested to understand what your definition of ambition is? For me 10 out of 10. You know as well as I do that ambition is defined by how much money you spend.....EVERYONE knows that ffs! Until this punk starts splashing the cash (big style) I will remain sceptical and will watch him like a hawk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 It'll be interesting the crowd for the Ajax game as they've already sold 21k and are expecting more on the day (and set up to sell them quickly too!). That rather puts the Bristol crowd ( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Meaning John Madejski (sorry original spelling error) since buying Reading FC, has achieved the success with his club which I (we) expect. "(benchmark (plural benchmarks) a standard by which something is evaluated or measured)" I know what a benchmark is you pedant but you'd be satisfied if we were like Reading?!?!?!? Is that all you aspire to??? A rather odd choice of benchmark in my book! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 says it all yes it does, so come on then ... we are still waiting for your fantastic ideas... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycrow Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 i think that gjphilsaint statement that AP was a 'very week' appointment was a little over the top, the fact that people are causing such a big fuss over his opinion is both very over the top and the reason why more people are not regular posters on this site. . I have to disagree with you here. I have always respected everyone's opinion on here, but in this case his "very weak" opinion is unsubstantiated. I am seriously interested in what appointment he would have been happy with, because I simply can't fathom the opinion he has expressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidthesquid Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 And to think some people said that nothing good would come out of going into administration... (Well, someone's got to do Stanley/Mole's job while he's banned) Oh no - what's he banned for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Oh no - what's he banned for? his radio ran out of batteries this afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 his radio ran out of batteries this afternoon. There are far worse things than radios for running out of batteries... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 There are far worse things than radios for running out of batteries... Are you flirting with me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4737_carlin Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 I think i will wait until something actually happens. The most important thing is winning football matches. I really don't give a toss about anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjphilsaint Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 I have to disagree with you here. I have always respected everyone's opinion on here, but in this case his "very weak" opinion is unsubstantiated. I am seriously interested in what appointment he would have been happy with, because I simply can't fathom the opinion he has expressed. Disagree with whomever you like thats fine. I do not rate Pardew he does not inspire me. That is just my opinion. The fact that I cannot offer an alternative does not change my mind. I am not trying to change anyone elses mind either. So my mindset is... I shall wait and see if its a good move for Saints. All I did in my first post of the day is put forward my opinion on a football forum. sadly what has followed this evening has left me regreting that decision to post, not because I regret having the opinion, but the hassle I got for it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wooley11 Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Sorry it is my first reaction, please allow me to express it, otherwise whats this forum for... and certainly no need for a WTF... or do you just want me to agree with you regardless... lets keep this on topic rather than slagging off those that want their say.. nuff said. and PS: I never mentioned WGS!!! For what it's worth I kind of had the same reaction as you did, don't really like Pardew too much. Am suprised someone who has posted almost 800 times on this forum is in any way suprised by the reaction of the other posters, you should know by now that you are only allowed to agree, how dare you have a different opinion! Pardew to me is a rather uninspiring appointment, yet you can't argue with his track record. As for the new owner, can't really be disappointed with the start made, it is good to have the club settled and ready to get moving back up the leagues with football matters the main talking point rather than the boardroom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 the ability to attract a potentially excellent new manager. Most managerial appointments are potentially excellent and potentially ****. Time will tell. Seems a much more sensible appointment than we're accustomed to though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Are you flirting with me? No. I've got lots of rechargeables.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 In the Premier League Lowe gave us Steve Wigley. In the Championship it was Jan Poortvleit. Now we are -10 points adrift at the bottom of League 1 and you are not happy with Alan Pardew?!? **** me! When you put it like that it just underlines what a bunch of idiots we've had in charge lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 You know as well as I do that ambition is defined by how much money you spend.....EVERYONE knows that ffs! Until this punk starts splashing the cash (big style) I will remain sceptical and will watch him like a hawk. What on earth are talking about, you oddity? How does one splash the cash (big style) in League One? No, actually you're right. Unless we sign Eto'o and Terry we should all be suspicious. Thank **** illuminati like you are observing; hawk-like. I tell you what; if we appoint Steve Wigley or Jan Poortvliet, I'll take up the suspicion mantle. You deserve a rest after all your hard work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 I know what a benchmark is you pedant but you'd be satisfied if we were like Reading?!?!?!? Is that all you aspire to??? A rather odd choice of benchmark in my book! For benchmark read bottom line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 TBF . the fact that ML has LISTENED to advisors and appointed an Engish manager with the lower league experience should be taken as agood sign. He has admitted that he knows little about the english lower leagues although he is a football fan... now it may turn out to be an inspired choice given that AP will have a lot to prove as did Strachan when he joined, it may turn out to be utter sh ite but that is the nature of the game... the fact remains he has taken a punt based on ADVICE rather than assuming an all encompasing knowledge because he owns the club... that shows a decent brain rests in the head of ML - even if pardue does not work out. We need experience and dedicationa and stabilty - now is the time for putting down foundations, not building on the soft ground we have after all the recent turmoil and remember its a long term plan not a quick fix... results will determine Pardues legacy , not politics and thats the thing like most about the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 18 July, 2009 Share Posted 18 July, 2009 You know as well as I do that ambition is defined by how much money you spend.....EVERYONE knows that ffs! Until this punk starts splashing the cash (big style) I will remain sceptical and will watch him like a hawk. Don't think i'm part of EVERYONE then. Ambition takes many different forms OBS. You carry on watching ML like a hawk. It's so nice to know that we have a punk watcher amongst us - have you been to the tower of London lately? There's loads of punks there and they'll happy let you take their picture if you pay them a tenner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musesaint Posted 18 July, 2009 Share Posted 18 July, 2009 In the Premier League Lowe gave us Steve Wigley. In the Championship it was Jan Poortvleit. Now we are -10 points adrift at the bottom of League 1 and you are not happy with Alan Pardew?!? Spot on perspective! We should count ourselves lucky We are League 1 and not Premiership..despite what some still think Right appointment for the right time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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