Lawrie Mac on talksport soon.

[70's Mike]

Getting on for almost 20 years and my irrational "hatred" of Everton is probably based on no more than Adrian Heath and that semi (although Being brought up to boo John Bailey may have had a subconscious effect as well!!).

 

As for this thread, I wouldn't read too much into it, it's mainly one dinlo who probably doesn't even know who Adrian Heath is if his posts are anything to go by.

 

John Bailey, a real cult hate figure, even changed clubs but still hated

never really hated Heath just what he did, but although i believe LM to have been great for the club, i do blame him for that defeat , he should have never played Steve Williams as our record showed after the Semi

[Wes Tender]

There are currenly eight threads on which you are currently listed as being the last contributor.

 

As I asked before, are you after some record for being the most prolific poster in the shortest time?

 

When I get back from the match later, I'll be interested to see whether you've been on here picking an argument with yourself.

[70's Mike]

There are currenly eight threads on which you are currently listed as being the last contributor.

 

As I asked before, are you after some record for being the most prolific poster in the shortest time?

 

When I get back from the match later, I'll be interested to see whether you've been on here picking an argument with yourself.

 

nice one Wes, off into town with 2 lads in a minute, eldest just got his BA results so lots of celebrating even a taxi back to Locks Heath.( just to show us old ones can still sink a few)

[sotonjoe]

There are currenly eight threads on which you are currently listed as being the last contributor.

 

Well done! Is there a limit as to how much we're allowed to post?

[70's Mike]

Well done! Is there a limit as to how much we're allowed to post?

 

are you sure you are not Scooby or Sundance

[sotonjoe]

are you sure you are not Scooby or Sundance

 

 

Who on earth are scooby or sundance? what stupid names! I've been posting since dec 2006 mike, just thought i'd get stuck in to a couple of discussions over the last couple of days, after getting tired of reading the same old moralising by the majority / minority (delete as appropriate).

[70's Mike]

Who on earth are scooby or sundance? what stupid names! I've been posting since dec 2006 mike, just thought i'd get stuck in to a couple of discussions over the last couple of days, after getting tired of reading the same old moralising by the majority / minority (delete as appropriate).

 

they are 2 very argumentative guys

[sotonjoe]

well fair play to them if they're willing to put up with badgering an insults that get thrown on here whenever somebody tries to say something different!

[70's Mike]

well fair play to them if they're willing to put up with badgering an insults that get thrown on here whenever somebody tries to say something different!

 

 

your like my missus have to have the last word, well you can have it because i of to the game now

[Thedelldays]

your like my missus have to have the last word' date=' well you can have it because i of to the game now[/quote']

this poster is very mole/stanley'esq

[sotonjoe]

this poster is very mole/stanley'esq

 

I think it significant, and more than a little funny, that as soon as somebody posts opinions contrary to those put across by the TSW clique, you try and make out that the poster must be a plant of some sort, or a second log on of some other user!

 

That is pure 'fingers in ears' territory. Some people just have different opinions, that's life!

[um pahars]

I think it significant, and more than a little funny, that as soon as somebody posts opinions contrary to those put across by the TSW clique, you try and make out that the poster must be a plant of some sort, or a second log on of some other user!

 

That is pure 'fingers in ears' territory. Some people just have different opinions, that's life!

 

What I think is significant is how people from across a wide spectrum (e.g. DellDays and I aren't the best of buddies;)) find you slightly bemusing.

 

It's not the difference of opinions that appears to be the problem, more the delivery:D

[sotonjoe]

What I think is significant is how people from across a wide spectrum (e.g. DellDays and I aren't the best of buddies;)) find you slightly bemusing.

 

It's not the difference of opinions that appears to be the problem, more the delivery:D

 

Whatever Um. What is problematic about the delivery? Is it the lack of swearing or insults? Should I sprinkle a few in for effect from now on?

[miserableoldgit]

Whatever Um. What is problematic about the delivery? Is it the lack of swearing or insults? Should I sprinkle a few in for effect from now on?

The problem is that there are a handful of posters who put across "opinions" that they know will cause a "reaction", and it is done in such an authoritative way that it makes you believe that these posters are never going to be in a position where they could, or will, ever say "I`m sorry. I was wrong there". Sadly, or maybe not, I believe that you fall into this catagory. SOME people call them Trolls.

[sotonjoe]

The problem is that there are a handful of posters who put across "opinions" that they know will cause a "reaction", and it is done in such an authoritative way that it makes you believe that these posters are never going to be in a position where they could, or will, ever say "I`m sorry. I was wrong there". Sadly, or maybe not, I believe that you fall into this catagory. SOME people call them Trolls.

 

 

I don't create my opinions in the hope they will cause a reaction and I'll happily retract any opnions if somebody persuades me otherwise.

[miserableoldgit]

I don't create my opinions in the hope they will cause a reaction and I'll happily retract any opnions if somebody persuades me otherwise.

For someone not trying to get a reaction, you do seem to end up in a few arguments. Personally, I find your anti LM stance a bit galling. I am lucky that I was watching Saints when for the 12 years that LM was in charge and he gave times that we can only dream of nowadays. I am not going to list good time because they are well documented, but as far as I am concerned unless LM murders somebody, he will always be welcome at the club and have his say. He deserves a certain amount of respect for what he has done for this club, not snide sniping remarks.

[sotonjoe]

For someone not trying to get a reaction, you do seem to end up in a few arguments. Personally, I find your anti LM stance a bit galling. I am lucky that I was watching Saints when for the 12 years that LM was in charge and he gave times that we can only dream of nowadays. I am not going to list good time because they are well documented, but as far as I am concerned unless LM murders somebody, he will always be welcome at the club and have his say. He deserves a certain amount of respect for what he has done for this club, not snide sniping remarks.

 

I don't have an anti-LM stance. I'm anti-being told I'm disrespecting him if I don't feel the need to listen to him on the radio. People try and twist that as usual. I'm just happy to stand up for myself, which gets the tag argumentative and that's fine by me! I'm certainly not going to bow down to the trendy view for sake of it.

[miserableoldgit]

I don't have an anti-LM stance. I'm anti-being told I'm disrespecting him if I don't feel the need to listen to him on the radio. People try and twist that as usual. I'm just happy to stand up for myself, which gets the tag argumentative and that's fine by me! I'm certainly not going to bow down to the trendy view for sake of it.

If you have no interest, then that`s fine, but why post negative things on a thread that was started for the sole purpose of letting people who MAY be interested in what LM has to say if it was not to get a reaction? If you are not interested ignore the thread. It is hardly a controversial thread is it?

[sotonjoe]

If you have no interest, then that`s fine, but why post negative things on a thread that was started for the sole purpose of letting people who MAY be interested in what LM has to say if it was not to get a reaction? If you are not interested ignore the thread. It is hardly a controversial thread is it?

 

 

I posted...

 

I have no interest in hearing what an ex manger has to say about our new manager.

 

I think that's fair enough and not overly inflammatory.

 

I was met with comments such as...

 

This should be changed to the I'm bitter and twisted thread.

 

and

 

Seems some are bitter and twisted, why I don't know.

 

I can't see how that can be considered trolling.

[scally]

I posted...

 

 

 

I think that's fair enough and not overly inflammatory.

 

I was met with comments such as...

 

 

 

and

 

 

 

I can't see how that can be considered trolling.

 

I know its hard to accept but every post on here is not about you soton, thats some thing you'll have to get used to. Other people had also posted on the thread before I made my comment.

[sotonjoe]

I know its hard to accept but every post on here is not about you soton, thats some thing you'll have to get used to. Other people had also posted on the thread before I made my comment.

 

 

I didn't say every post was about me. If you're trying to impolitely say that you weren't including me in your "bitter and twisted" comments then thank you, though what took you so long?!?!!?

[scally]

I didn't say every post was about me. If you're trying to impolitely say that you weren't including me in your "bitter and twisted" comments then thank you, though what took you so long?!?!!?

 

 

Sorry you post so much its hard to keep up.

[sotonjoe]

Sorry you post so much its hard to keep up.

 

no worries

[OldNick]

no worries

Joe, I think you are interesting, but then again I have not had a long debate with you as yet.Lol Keep it going as you keep things alive on here.

[sotonjoe]

Joe, I think you are interesting, but then again I have not had a long debate with you as yet.Lol Keep it going as you keep things alive on here.

 

 

Stop that, you'll be accused of being me using another of my many different logins.

[Guan 2.0]

Lawrie is a top man like Leon.....Like some posters/fans the life of the mighty Saints..

 

Luvvies go home...

 

 

So anyone who doesn't agree with your point of view is automatically a Lowe Luvvie (and not entitled to an opinion, and therefore (by the inference you make) not a true fan unlike "some posters/fans" who are the "life" of the mighty saints? Rational and Mature.

 

Maybe some just don't like a drink driving (sorry, Barbican swilling) 'figurehead' who's failed/quit every professional team (England under Graham Taylor, Nord Ireland) since he walked out on us the first time for his 'Spiritul home' (a phrase often used by self aggrandising bull****ters apparently) of Sunderland (not the second when he fell out with that devilish Rupert character from the past, the one so evil that Lawrie Couldn't bear to keep the dirty dirty shares he had gained from the reverse takeover, and swapped it instead for lots of filthy filthy money).

 

And before anyone asks why I 'just believe what I heard', I've had the good fortune to meet both Ted Bates and Lawrie, most notably at the 'last do at the Dell', where Ted Bates was arguably more muble, with a quiet dignity about hime' whereas lawrie seemed intent on inserting himself into as many photo ops as possible.

 

Personally, I couldn't give a **** if Mc-money-to-me has a painting of himself hanging in the boardroom, or there's a picture of a train there. I'm much more concerned with seeing the Ted Bates Trophy back in the cabinet by the end of the day, signalling a bright new era for saints.

[miserableoldgit]

I posted...

 

 

 

I think that's fair enough and not overly inflammatory.

 

I was met with comments such as...

 

 

 

and

 

 

 

I can't see how that can be considered trolling.

It goes back to what someone (UM?) said about delivery. I realise that the printed word can appear to have a different meaning to the spoken one, but to me that first quote came across as smug, arrogant and antogonistic. It may have been factually correct but goes back to "if you are not interested, why post on this thread?"

[sotonjoe]

It goes back to what someone (UM?) said about delivery. I realise that the printed word can appear to have a different meaning to the spoken one, but to me that first quote came across as smug, arrogant and antogonistic. It may have been factually correct but goes back to "if you are not interested, why post on this thread?"

 

As you say, your interpretation is entirely subjective.

 

Discussions are for the exchange of opinions, if we all posted "yes" it would all be rather fruitless.

 

Oh ...and you might want to read Guan's post before you call me antagonistic. ;-)

[obelisk]

Joe, I think you are interesting, but then again I have not had a long debate with you as yet.Lol Keep it going as you keep things alive on here.

Some might find him interesting but I wouldn't have used that word myself. Tedious, contrary or narcissistic might more easily fit the bill.

 

Frankly, if that's the way he holds conversations then I'd be surprised if people don't find somewhere else to be whenever he's around. A good opinionated exchange of views can be a great way to spend an hour or two but most probably know when to move onto something else.

[sotonjoe]

Some might find him interesting but I wouldn't have used that word myself. Tedious, contrary or narcissistic might more easily fit the bill.

 

Frankly, if that's the way he holds conversations then I'd be surprised if people don't find somewhere else to be whenever he's around. A good opinionated exchange of views can be a great way to spend an hour or two but most probably know when to move onto something else.

 

I don't hold conversations with my keyboard, no.

[obelisk]

I don't hold conversations with my keyboard, no.

You have proved my point.

[sotonjoe]

You have proved my point.

 

Hardly.

[um pahars]

You have proved my point.

 

But he has had the last word on 9 threads on the front page alone LMFAO:rolleyes:

[sotonjoe]

But he has had the last word on 9 threads on the front page alone LMFAO:rolleyes:

 

 

Oh Um ... I'm so flattered that you choose to go to such lengths to make me look important! Are you jealous?

[um pahars]

Oh Um ... I'm so flattered that you choose to go to such lengths to make me look important! Are you jealous?

 

You're easily pleased if you think scanning the front page of a message board is "such lengths".

 

Maybe it's the lack of "such length" in your pants that makes you crave the attention on here;)

 

It's down to 8 now with this post.

 

 

 

 

:smt054After that last post, you can have all 9 threads:smt054

Edited 18 July, 2009 by um pahars
Happy to give the last word to a lady

[sotonjoe]

You're easily pleased if you think scanning the front page of a message board is "such lengths".

 

Maybe it's the lack of "such length" in your pants that makes you crave the attention on here;)

 

It's down to 8 now with this post.

 

It's still a little odd to be interested Um ... what conclusions can you draw from the number of threads somebody posted the last thread in? That nobody else has posted yet!?!?!? Fascinating stuff.

 

I don't have a penis, as I'm female you silly boy.

 

Keep me updated though ...

 

 

edit - just got it up to 16 ... does that help you make some fascinating conclusions?

Edited 18 July, 2009 by sotonjoe

[um pahars]

I don't have a penis, as I'm female you silly boy.

 

I like this link (PS it works)

 

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?p=259124&highlight=missus#post259124

 

PS You're down to 15 now, so better get spamming (do you reckon you could get the whole of the main board???)

[sotonjoe]

I like this link (PS it works)

 

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?p=259124&highlight=missus#post259124

 

PS You're down to 15 now, so better get spamming (do you reckon you could get the whole of the main board???)

 

 

doh!

 

You put a lot of time into this don't you?

[um pahars]

You put a lot of time into this don't you?

 

Quarantined with swine flu and I've managed 30ish posts today

 

You on the other hand have managed 120ish.

 

Now who puts a lot of time in to it???

 

I can post you a link with the stats if you want;)

[Tamesaint]

Can I say that I managed to get a recording of the Talksport interview with LM. Just get in touch with me Sotonjoe if you want to listen to it .....

[up and away]

Originally Posted by up and away

I don't know of any ex player who has worked with him, that have a good word to say about him.

How about the following players who have publicly backed Lawrie at events (or in private) I have been to over the years:

 

Osgood

Channon (who shared a platform with him recently)

Rodrigues

Fisher

Bennett

Ball

Williams

Wallace

Peach

Steele

I really could go on and on and on (let me know if you need any more names)

 

Those qualities which made him effective as a manager made him totally unbearable when DOF. When Alan Ball was asked about working with him as DOF he said he was an absolute nightmare, with the only thing noticeable that he would never of picked a certain player on the team sheet. John McGrath was so happy with him he wanted to give him a special kiss. And the guy behind me who asked Terry Paine if Lawrie had a forward in his book at the signing should have been far more careful.

[sotonjoe]

Quarantined with swine flu and I've managed 30ish posts today

 

You on the other hand have managed 120ish.

 

Now who puts a lot of time in to it???

 

I can post you a link with the stats if you want;)

 

yeh, I looked at those myself, I was amazed. I spent a few hours out the house this afternoon to come back and find you waiting for me.:smt054

[sotonjoe]

Can I say that I managed to get a recording of the Talksport interview with LM. Just get in touch with me Sotonjoe if you want to listen to it .....

 

 

Did he say, "where's that **** sotonjoe? If he's not listening, I'm gonna go round there and ..."

[manji]

Quarantined with swine flu

Probably a cold but you wanted it to sound important :-)

[um pahars]

Those qualities which made him effective as a manager made him totally unbearable when DOF. When Alan Ball was asked about working with him as DOF he said he was an absolute

 

nightmare, with the only thing noticeable that he would never of picked a certain player on the team sheet. John McGrath was so happy with him he wanted to give him a special kiss. And the guy behind me who asked Terry Paine if Lawrie had a forward in his book at the signing should have been far more careful.

 

So now we've gone from every player who has worked with him not having anything good to say about him, to Bally commenting on him about his stint as a DOF, and Paine, whose strained relationship with Lawrie has been public knowledge for almost 40 years, being held up as a justification of your carte blanche claim.

 

Well done.

 

Only slightly moving the goalposts there then LOL.

[um pahars]

. I spent a few hours out the house this afternoon to come back and find you waiting for me.:smt054

 

Actually, you came back from your afternoon away and your first act was to reply to a post of mine.

 

I duly replied;)

 

HTH

[sotonjoe]

Actually, you came back from your afternoon away and your first act was to reply to a post of mine.

 

I duly replied;)

 

HTH

 

Isn't that what I said Um? We need to be careful anyway, it's only a matter of time till one of your mates makes some hillarious homophobic jibe about us flirting with each other.

 

Let's meet up later in the motoring forum ... nobody ever goes in there.:goodman:

[um pahars]

Let's meet up later in the motoring forum ...

 

Have you got a link to it (one that exists mind;)).

[sotonjoe]

Have you got a link to it (one that exists mind;)).

 

no, find it yourself.

[um pahars]

no, find it yourself.

 

Is this another one of your "non existent wild goose chases, only to back down and say it doesn't matter afterwards" links????