Red&White Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 He will do for me ! the sort of manager we need some of the daydreamers might not be too happy . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeySFC Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Brilliant signing...probably would have been extatic if WGS had been our new manager, but i never thought it was a realistic possiblity to be honest. Just so pleased we didn't get that clueless neanderthol Tony Adams, or i wouldn't have gone to a game until he was sacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Just had a call from my mate who is a lifelong Reading fan and he reckons that we have made an inspired choice ! Good football knowledge, contacts, eye for a player, serious about discipline, fitness and winning ! Sounds like a good reference to me ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Not an Earth-shattering name, but he'll do. Now, on to the signings! What sort of players does he prefer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 i am not too sure what you really expected.. we are in the 3rd division on -10 points who else in league 1 has pardews pedigree..? I agree At least they 1) Saved the club 2) Are taking action fast 3) Delivering on promises Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon_UK Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 A very sensible appointment, someone with a bit of experience, maybe not the Big name that everyone wanted but certainly can do a job for us, and I will be behind him and the team, COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 I'm very pleased. This is a solid "No nonsense" appointment. We are bottom of the third div. on -10 points. Pardew could have got a club in a higher division. This shows that he has faith in the future of the team and the commitment of the new owner. This combined with the club telling our players they can leave if they want to tells me that the cash for new and better players will be forthcoming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Shearer Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Alan Pardew isn't the worst choice we could have had by miles but I guess most of us were hoping for WGS/Coppell. Personally I would have liked the Poyet/Wise combo. But I have to say it will be interesting to see what he makes of the team. As others have said - Saints with a billionaire owner, debt free and a British manager. What more could you ask for? Except for not being in L1 and -10pt deduction! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 (edited) Alan Pardew isn't the worst choice we could have had by miles but I guess most of us were hoping for WGS/Coppell. Personally I would have liked the Poyet/Wise combo. But I have to say it will be interesting to see what he makes of the team. As others have said - Saints with a billionaire owner, debt free and a British manager. What more could you ask for? Except for not being in L1 and -10pt deduction! Just to get some decent players in and a press conference please. Edited 17 July, 2009 by The Godfather Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 I predict he will not be here when his contract ends. I dont mean that in a bad way. If we end up in mid table i think most people will accept that was a reasonable job with -10pts and he stays on as manager for next year. In year 2 he has to get us promotion, if he gets us promotion i believe he will get poached - ask any MK Dons fan how this works. If we get promoted or even nearly promoted this year that will be an excellent result with -10 pts and again he will get poached. So win lose or draw he will not be here in 3 years. If Pardew gets us into the CCC I'm not sure who you think would poach him to be honest. I can't see any Prem clubs taking him on and his "spiritual home" is Palace and they're not a fantastic draw at present either. A wealthy Southampton in the CCC is a pretty strong proposition. It's certainly possible, but not sure you can compare us to MK Dons who have appointed and lost managers "on the up" (Martin Allen, Ince, Di Matteo - you could add Swansea's Martinez to that list as well) as opposed to a manager on a comeback. I can see what you're saying but Pardew promoting us in two seasons won't make him some red hot managerial prospect coveted by the big clubs. He'll still be on the comeback trial clawing back to where he once was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenevaSaint Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 "Pardew’s talents to build a team on strong foundations, to get players to believe in themselves and play above their natural levels" From the Echo. Sounds very much like Strachan in his time at Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 If Pardew gets us into the CCC I'm not sure who you think would poach him to be honest. I can't see any Prem clubs taking him on and his "spiritual home" is Palace and they're not a fantastic draw at present either. A wealthy Southampton in the CCC is a pretty strong proposition. It's certainly possible, but not sure you can compare us to MK Dons who have appointed and lost managers "on the up" (Martin Allen, Ince, Di Matteo - you could add Swansea's Martinez to that list as well) as opposed to a manager on a comeback. I can see what you're saying but Pardew promoting us in two seasons won't make him some red hot managerial prospect coveted by the big clubs. He'll still be on the comeback trial clawing back to where he once was. Very true, but equally ML has already stated that he will invest where is needed to be invested, looking at the wealthy owners list we are what ?? 5th, 6th ?? If he manages to get us to the prem then we will still be a very attractive proposition, not only in the fact that we 'should' have money to spend but also because it will not be expected that we would stay up, so a good performance in the PL would be a massive bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Good appointment. He may not have the "X Factor" that some were looking for (whatever that is), but to be quite frank I don't really care about that. He will have a lot of work to do sorting out the rabble that he has inherited, but good luck to him, I'll support him all the way and I'm sure all fans will get behind him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycrow Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Originally Posted by Charlie Wayman View Post Anybody who cares to read my posts from about four years ago (no takers!) will read that Alan Pardew was my first choice before Burley came. What a shame it has taken four years for the penny to drop. Too late now? "I told you so's" have a time limit you know! Remember when I said 15 years ago that Michael Jackson would die? Showed you all didn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 If Pardew gets us into the CCC I'm not sure who you think would poach him to be honest. I can't see any Prem clubs taking him on and his "spiritual home" is Palace and they're not a fantastic draw at present either. A wealthy Southampton in the CCC is a pretty strong proposition. It's certainly possible, but not sure you can compare us to MK Dons who have appointed and lost managers "on the up" (Martin Allen, Ince, Di Matteo - you could add Swansea's Martinez to that list as well) as opposed to a manager on a comeback. I can see what you're saying but Pardew promoting us in two seasons won't make him some red hot managerial prospect coveted by the big clubs. He'll still be on the comeback trial clawing back to where he once was. Which will keep him well motivated. He'll be busy though, no honeymoon period as the squad is as thin as value brand toilet paper from Lidl which Pardew will already have noted. Expect quite an influx of players over the next few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windmill Arm 2 Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Thats more like it, welcome aboard Pards, now get us moving please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven on the wing Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Like others it took a while for it to sink in. He is typical of many of the managers we used to look out for at Saints with a lower profile but get the job done. Hopefully it will proove to be an inspired choice. Good luck and welcome to the mad house Alan !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 when people say he is lower profile.. how is that possible when we are in league 1..? there is not one else in league 1 that can match his pedigree...i think ince comes nearest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tac-tics Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Press conference soon?any idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whizzpop Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Any signings yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 We are bottom of Div1 and minus 10 points. That fact alone cheered me when I heard s couple of days ago that the only name mentioned of note that had applied for the job was Pardews. For him to want the job and not need to be co-erced is a big pluss. It means that he is ready for the battle that lies ahead. I just don't get it with some of the misery guts on here when hearing who had the job. Pardew did an excellent job for Reading and then went to West Ham. Again he did a good job and was removed after a short blip which he might well have been able to turn around. Charlton was a ship sinking slowly before he arrived. They had no money and he struggled. There are hundreds of managers who would have struggled in the same way given the same tools to work with. I say give him a chance and let us show both AP and Markus how we love our club which now includes them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Any signings yet? Once again they drag their feet - he's been in the seat for 12 odd hours, probably been awake since 7am - what is going on!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycrow Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Great choice - we are definitely starting to feel like a Football Club again I Only have one concern - just texting the news to Mrs W and his surname comes up as "raped" in my predictive text ?!? This is the main real concern we have. Maybe we could get him to change his name to Curbishley and everyone would be happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Name me one manager that wouldn't worry you about being lured by the premiership. Only one that isn't good enough. I'm happy to be worried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syd_barrett_saint Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 An interesting article from just before the cup final with West Ham: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2006/may/07/newsstory.sport1 I like the fact that he has some more "real life" experience due to the fact he got into professional football later than most, and also that he seems to speak his mind. All in all, looks like a good appointment, if he can put the Charlton blip behind him now he's going to have the more stability and backing at Saints. In fact, it must be a good appointment - it's coaxed me into my first proper post on here in a very long time! :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughieslastminutegoal Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 This appointment is proof that the ambitions of the Swiss are average at best. It wouldn't be my choice but now he is here I hope that the owners back him financially otherwise we will just become an average L1 team. Interesting point of view, you having already posted:- is in the running for the yeovil job....could he do a good job for us? imo yeovil seems a bit below his level tbh i would like to think he could be a decent manager for us but what do i know. ..so tell us, what do you know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Really surprised and pleased by this news. He could get a job at most Championship clubs so we should be very pleased he's decided to come to us at the bottom of League 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suspect everyone Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 As others have stated if you ignore the billions of pounds we’re merely a league one club starting on -10, so getting a manager who’s British, relatively young, experience of promotion from league one and the championship and someone who’s got a point to prove is pretty good in my book. The important point that remains to be seen is whether the Charlton debacle was a one-off failure in his career or whether it was synonymous with his personality and management style, showing he has some alarming flaws as a manager. I've read that he can be a difficult man to get along with, is quite arrogant and has a canny knack of always having a 'Arry Redknapp style excuse ready to apportion blame elsewhere when things go pear shaped. He’s been known to stick up gimmicky “inspiring” statements in dressing rooms, such as “...by putting in 4 more crosses a game you increase the chances of scoring by 20%”, or words to that effect. Taking a quick look at an equivalent Charlton fans board shows he’s not a popular man in south east London. His signings also seem to be expensive and a bit hit or miss, slightly concerning considering he may have quite a large transfer kitty. However you could argue that a fresh start here at Saints is just what he needs to prove his critics wrong ala WGS. I’m not trying to be negative for the sake of it, just playing Devils advocate by presenting an alternative viewpoint. Regardless of all this, he’s still a darn sight better than Tony Adams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinR Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Some of the speculation on here was unrealistic- so never thought WGS, Coppell, Shearer, Keegan (all AS IF FFS) would happen. Pleased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Some of the speculation on here was unrealistic- so never thought WGS, Coppell, Shearer, Keegan (all AS IF FFS) would happen. Pardew would not be out of place in that listing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bungle Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 This is unexpected. I reckon he is a good choice for getting us back into the CCC and possibly the PL thereafter. But then ? Seems like a middle-term appointment. But what the hell, with a couple more years under his belt, even that may click. We could have ended up with a lot, lot, worse. You simply must be a skate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redondo Saint Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Tho' not the earth-shattering appointment that got everyone buzzing, for a club starting in the third divison - on minus-10 points this close to the start of the season with half a team - we should be chuffed to get a guy of this calibre. Agreed. I found out the news this morning and was inititially disappointed. However, your summary is spot on. Let's get behind him and hope for some stability and winning ways to promote this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigShadow Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Can't believe some of the 'best we could have hoped for' 'Lack of ambition' 'Average appointment' type posts on here. This is an OUTSTANDING appointment. Exactly the type of manager we need. All this pining for WGS - seems many have forgotten all the complaints on here week in week out during WGS reign because of the continued selection of Telfer, Fuller etc, the refusal to make substitutions until the last 10 mins. Don't get me wrong, WGS was a good manager, but I don't think he deserves to be put on the pedestal many on here seem to want. Pardew has an excellent record - the Charlton thing was a tough challenge for anyone and the instability there had set in before he arrived. Moreover, he has experience through the leagues and that experience has been gained at clubs similar to ours. I couldn't be happier with our new manager. Welcome Mr Pardew. Good Luck, may your stay be long, happy and successful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windmill Arm 2 Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 You simply must be a skate. Why must he be a skate Bungle? I see you are still posting bollix, what is you view on this appointment? do tell... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Will Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Can't believe some of the 'best we could have hoped for' 'Lack of ambition' 'Average appointment' type posts on here. This is an OUTSTANDING appointment. Exactly the type of manager we need. All this pining for WGS - seems many have forgotten all the complaints on here week in week out during WGS reign because of the continued selection of Telfer, Fuller etc, the refusal to make substitutions until the last 10 mins. Don't get me wrong, WGS was a good manager, but I don't think he deserves to be put on the pedestal many on here seem to want. Pardew has an excellent record - the Charlton thing was a tough challenge for anyone and the instability there had set in before he arrived. Moreover, he has experience through the leagues and that experience has been gained at clubs similar to ours. I couldn't be happier with our new manager. Welcome Mr Pardew. Good Luck, may your stay be long, happy and successful. Completely agree. Some people aren't happy unless they're picking out the negatives and moaning about something. For the position we're in, it's a great appointment. I'm all for people having an opinion, but some people only ever have negative opinions....I guess they're too gutless to think positively just in case they're let down. Far more easy on them if they think negatively and are then surprised if things go well. How about not being cowards and pick out the positives and go to games expecting the best. COYR and all the best Alan Pardew. I'm delighted you're on board. Hopefully the negative, moaning, whinging people will keep schtum and we can have a positive feeling around the place this season. We're going to need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny R Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Can't believe some of the 'best we could have hoped for' 'Lack of ambition' 'Average appointment' type posts on here. This is an OUTSTANDING appointment. Exactly the type of manager we need. All this pining for WGS - seems many have forgotten all the complaints on here week in week out during WGS reign because of the continued selection of Telfer, Fuller etc, the refusal to make substitutions until the last 10 mins. Don't get me wrong, WGS was a good manager, but I don't think he deserves to be put on the pedestal many on here seem to want. Pardew has an excellent record - the Charlton thing was a tough challenge for anyone and the instability there had set in before he arrived. Moreover, he has experience through the leagues and that experience has been gained at clubs similar to ours. I couldn't be happier with our new manager. Welcome Mr Pardew. Good Luck, may your stay be long, happy and successful. Strachan did really annoy me by playing Fuller all the time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suspect everyone Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Strachan did really annoy me by playing Fuller all the time! Didn't 'Arry sign Fuller when we went down to the Championship? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 A pretty good choice imo. Welcome to Southampton Football Club Alan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny R Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Didn't 'Arry sign Fuller when we went down to the Championship? He did? Sorry, it was a poor attempt at humour! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Why must he be a skate Bungle? I see you are still posting bollix, what is you view on this appointment? do tell... He has no view on anything as he is to busy with his disturbing infatuation with Alpine... Ignore him..difficult i know but try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Now I have had time to reflect I think this is a much more 'solid' appointment than someone like Keegan TBH we need to build again and I feel someone like KK would jhave been off sharpish if it didn't all come together straight away. We have hit rock bottom and the only way is up from here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigShadow Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Didn't 'Arry sign Fuller when we went down to the Championship? OK, not Fuller then. Point is - there were plenty of complaints on here about team selection during the Strachan era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up and away Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Pardew would not have been my choice, but he is here now and that is good enough. I am so grateful to Liebherr that even Tony Adams would not have ruffled my feathers. Looking back at the good things Pardew did, there are an big load of positives there. Just hope his experiences with Charlton have not left him as damaged goods. Depending upon what funds he is given, it may take 3 seasons just to get out of League 1, so be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintstr1 Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Not my first choice but having thought about it for a few hours now I am not to dissappointed and wish Alan all the best in his new job. Hope he can get us some real players in now before the season starts. Make good use of your contacts Alan , West Ham must have some good reserves you could get on loan perhaps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bug187 Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Happy with that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disintegration87 Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 personally I would have prefered a foreign manager. Possibly someone Dutch who could revolutionize the way Saints play football and tear the league apart with total football... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedAndWhite91 Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Really happy with the appointment of Pardew, think it is solid and a good decision in the long term. Just seen this on TV; coming up on SSN: Player's reactions to appointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnTheCross Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Very pleased with this appointment. Putting aside the debacle that was Charlton, he's got an excellent track record. Even with Pardew at the helm, I'd be happy if we just didn't get relegated again next season. Demoralised, unfit squad in tatters starting at -10 will take some turning around. Not to mention the mentality of failure that has hung around for years before this take over. Next season will hopefully be about getting the right foundations in place, with some signs that we can push forward in year 2 coming in once he has the squad back in shape. Anything else will be a bonus. I'm pretty happy that we've a manager who I can *see* has done this before, and not having to wish everything *might* turn out for the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintfully Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Alan Pardew - going in strong and hard (from what I gather). Great news! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Lets not forget that when WGS came to us - he was considered damaged goods after getting Coventry relegated. As I said on the other thread, people forget how young he is (only a couple years older than NP) and he's actually been there and done it (numerous playoffs, promotions, prem experience, a FA cup final which West Ham was within whiskers of winning - would have been the first english manager to win the trophy in well over a decade). For f**k sake i don't know what people expect, especially as their choices are no more inspired -yes big reputations but largely merry-go-round casualties. People defend him by saying that League 1 -10 points Southampton shouldn't expect a big name. That's true to an extent but its also ungenerous, obscuring the fact that Pardew's record his excellent in its own right: His average points per game is 1.51 points over more than 450 games -that's better than coppell, redknapp, hoddle and pearson (even though NP has spent most of his managerial career with championship winning Leicester). Its not actually far behind WGS even though WGS spent four years in the SPL which is a virtual monopoly. Welcome Pards - an extremely shrewd appointment that suggests Liebherr and co are learning very quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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