saintwiz Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 I will judge him after 10 games. I wish him luck in those 10 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daren W Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 To be fair to get the chance to manage a team you played for as well as in the higher league would be hard to turn down. I do agree i wouldnt want him o do the same as GH to us but I expect he has learnt from that. As for Tevez etc they were forced on him But with the greatest respects Nick, if a chairman plops two world class players on your doorstep any decent manager would adapt or, better still, use them. I wouldn't expect them to sulk and keep them on the bench... I digress though, onwards and upwards... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildgoose Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 I'm warming to the idea. There are not many others around who fit the criteria he will bring and the Reading incident aside (and he was there for 5 years if you include his time as a coach before he left) he has stayed with clubs for 3 or 4 seasons. Could prove to be a very astute appointment. Looking forward to some new signings! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintpat Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 a better appointment than we could have hoped IMO. A proven manager at all levels of the league. Ok it's not WGS but realistically it was never going to be. I think it is a coup to attract him to Saints given our position. I just hope that both the management and the fans give him enough time to mould the squad to his character. It won't be a 5 minute job. At least it's a 3 year contract and not one of those rolling year(6 month)contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 But with the greatest respects Nick, if a chairman plops two world class players on your doorstep any decent manager would adapt or, better still, use them. I wouldn't expect them to sulk and keep them on the bench... I digress though, onwards and upwards... I understand, but I suggest it was about keeping his integrity.He was being undermined and so made his point.It proved costly though for him. I Look forward to the tourettes and general observations of the state of play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Nelson Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 This is a fantastic appointment. Good experience, plays football the right way, is capable of managing us through all three divisions, he has something to prove, good contacts and reputation in the game. Also he has no sodding "affinity to Southampton" the most over rated requirement people bang on about on here. If he's still with us in three years time I would expect us to be a solid CCC level club at worst. Personally I am pleased it isn't Strachan, I would have been uncomfortable with that appointment long term because I wouldn't understand his motivation. New owners, new board, new manager, new players, new club. Brilliant. I wouldn't add or detract anything to that. Excellent analysis! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusaldo Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 I feel a song coming on at the game tomorrow.... Happy birthday Pardew, Happy birthday Pardew, Happy birthday Alllllaaaaaaan Pardew, Happy birthday Pardew, pretty obvious but atleast it shows we care Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crispypie Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 SO, what kind of football can we expect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Luke Saint Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 What time's the press conference ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Underwhelmed to be honest, I'd have taken Coppell as the most realsitic option. It's amusing to see people say how pleased they are to see a manager of his status in League One... Exactly where he would have been with Charlton... lol I'll just remember being underwhelmed with Strachan's appointment and being pleasantly stunned. My only doubts is that Pardew is a disloyal, mercenary ******... Now prove me wrong Alan... But aren't 90% of people in football these days Darren? How many managers actually stay anywhere if a better offer comes along....WGS is seen as a cult hero here but he walked out on us to have that mythical operation. In his book he states that he had taken us as far as possible and needed a bigger challenge. Pardew can be as disloyal and as mercenary as he likes as long as he gets up up 2 divisions and then buggers off as we will then be a far bigger attraction to other managers than we are bottom of Div 1 on -10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Great choice - we are definitely starting to feel like a Football Club again I Only have one concern - just texting the news to Mrs W and his surname comes up as "raped" in my predictive text ?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 A rational, sensible appointment IMHO ! Is it too much to hope that we will have rational and sensible fans after our first few (inevitable) losses ??? We now have a solid structure but need some patience to let things evolve in the right direction ! I am optimistic for the first time in about 5 years ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graymalkin33 Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 I predict he will not be here when his contract ends. I dont mean that in a bad way. If we end up in mid table i think most people will accept that was a reasonable job with -10pts and he stays on as manager for next year. In year 2 he has to get us promotion, if he gets us promotion i believe he will get poached - ask any MK Dons fan how this works. If we get promoted or even nearly promoted this year that will be an excellent result with -10 pts and again he will get poached. So win lose or draw he will not be here in 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smarmy Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Superb. I'd completely forgotten him, but he is ideal. A premier league manager, who has achieved promotions from both League 1 and the Championship. Better than any of the touted options imo. But then I have a problem with Coppell, a serial quitter and a charisma vacuum, and Curbishley also lacks any kind of charisma and hasn't been able to succeed out of his element in Charlton, where he was superb, admittedly. I like Pearson, but he lacks the experience that Pardew has and plays stodgy football. I like Keegan, but I don't think he would have had it in him to do it all one more time, and for Strachan's own sake, I'm glad he hasn't come back (and why would he? From Celtic surely a top prem or foreign side is the step up?) Just wish he'd been appointed two months ago! Gonna be a tough season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent Orange Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Ok it's not WGS but realistically it was never going to be. I've never quite understood the high esteem with which some fans hold WGS. Yes he was bloody funny. His velocity quote is without equal. Yes the squad were fit. Yes we got to the Cup Final and highest finish for a long while. But there were many times at St Marys when his plan A failed he didn't seem to have a plan B. I'm no master tactician - just an opinionated fan who liked playing football as a boy, but towards the end of his time here his tactics just didn't seem to work. A decent manager who did well for us but he's not the messiah. Pardew is - I feel a far better choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altoniansaints Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 don`t know if these stats have already been posted but: Managerial stats (WGS) As of 01:34, 9 January 2009 (UTC) Team Nat From To Record G W L D Win % Coventry City 5 November 1996 10 September 2001 215 70 89 56 32.55 Southampton 22 October 2001 13 February 2004 110 39 39 32 35.45 Celtic 25 May 2005 25 May 2009 182 122 32 28 67.03 Managerial stats Team Nat From To Record G W L D Win % Reading 13 October 1999 10 September 2003 212 102 57 53 48.11 West Ham United 20 October 2003 11 December 2006 163 67 58 38 41.10 Charlton Athletic 24 December 2006 22 November 2008 89 28 35 26 31.46 Southampton 17 July 2009 ???????????????????????????????????????????? so on those stats AP is overall the better manager COYR Alan Pardew`s red and white army Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick1976.4.38 Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 welcome to saints ap,we r are a fantastic club,with a great history,enjoy your time at saints and good luck getting us back where we belong.roll on the new season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamKimish Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 AP is a very very good solid appointment IMHO ......... ( and would surely have had an offer from a CCC Team in due course ) He is "street wise" at Div 1 level, and will know what it will take to get out of this league I hope that us fans will be realistic in what type of Football to expect, ie, do we want to get out of Div 1 OR do we want to watch pretty pretty stuff and then get kicked to hell in the final third GOOD LUCK to Alan Curbishly, and WELL DONE to Messrs Leibherr and Cortese for getting him:rolleyes: We've hired Curbs aswell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twopintsnilnil Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Whilst I agree with those who think this is a good an appointment as we could have hoped for, and that any movement in the right direction is exciting... Looking at his career statistics, and applying them to last year's final League One table, we would have finished on 72 points - just one above our friends Southend and two places short of the play-offs. Presuming the points spread is similar this year, with our -10 we can look forward to finishing 13th. If you weight these figures with a judgment about how intrinsically "good" the sides he's managed are through his time at each of them, you could come up with a conclusion about how successful he is. Unfortunately I don't know the history of Reading, West Ham or Charlton well enough to make that conclusion. However, what's more worrying is that Saints certainly currently have a poor squad. Making an adjustment based on how quickly you thing that squad will become intrinsically "good" (better players, morale, tactics etc.) could lead to a conclusion about the likely outcome by next May. In my opinion, and for what it's worth based on this reasoning, our default position is relegation, and whilst Pardew may be good enough to keep us up, he's going to have to be at least as good as he's been anywhere else to give us a mid-table finish, and quite a lot better to be pushing for promotion. Good luck, Alan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest flickjax Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 I predict he will not be here when his contract ends. I dont mean that in a bad way. If we end up in mid table i think most people will accept that was a reasonable job with -10pts and he stays on as manager for next year. In year 2 he has to get us promotion, if he gets us promotion i believe he will get poached - ask any MK Dons fan how this works. If we get promoted or even nearly promoted this year that will be an excellent result with -10 pts and again he will get poached. So win lose or draw he will not be here in 3 years. If he does well and gets backing from our RICH owner there will be no reason for him to leave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladysaint Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Anyone checked out his wiki page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Pardew he cant be quite controversial in what he says but like his motto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 I think he's a good safe choice for manager. Not a Keeganesque choice that gets the pulse racing, but a manager who knows the ropes. I'm happy and now we can at last start preparations for next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twopintsnilnil Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 I've never quite understood the high esteem with which some fans hold WGS. Yes he was bloody funny. His velocity quote is without equal. Yes the squad were fit. Yes we got to the Cup Final and highest finish for a long while. But there were many times at St Marys when his plan A failed he didn't seem to have a plan B. I'm no master tactician - just an opinionated fan who liked playing football as a boy, but towards the end of his time here his tactics just didn't seem to work. A decent manager who did well for us but he's not the messiah. Pardew is - I feel a far better choice. Happen to agree with that, Orange. I think the whole package was excellent value, but he was tactically suspect at times and made a major error by demoralising the squad post-Christmas by telling them he was going and seeming to generally run out of ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Strachan to Pompey then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Strange, was not immediately overwhelmed, but when you think about it, for D1 and -10 points its a bloody good appointment - almost a bit of a coup. PS. Re Strachan velocity joke.. he mase a bit of a basic scientific error, as velocity can be low/slow as well as high/quick... ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Anyone checked out his wiki page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Pardew he cant be quite controversial in what he says but like his motto. Yes, I mentioned his disputes with Wenger elsewhere, good for him I say ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertySFC Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Excellent news , not what I was expecting , anyhow it is all down to the fact that IKEA are also in Southampton with Alan's link to the Swedish fraternity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ron fan Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 A good appointment by the Board. Articulate, experienced, presents a good picture and has a wide view of the game. He ticks all the right boxes for me. Good luck Alan, we are behind you. 'Talks a lot' is not the same as 'articulate'. In interviews or when doing radio/TV he rambles a lot, often incoherently. Take out his first season in the Prem with WHU, I'd say his record is poor to middling. In particular, in his two seasons in the CCC with WHU, who in relative terms had a good squad, he had a very poor reputation and had them playing terrible football. A sixth place finish (I think) enabled them to scrape into the play-offs, which they then muddled through. It was well known that WHU were about to sack him if they hadn't gone up. I will be as delighted as all the rest of you if he succeeds, and will certainly be at as many games as I can to lend support, but I must say that I'm concerned by this appointment. It gives me no great hope that we will be nearer the top than the bottom of the table this season, particularly with the -10 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carljack Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Gets a cautious thumbs up from me. Has experience, young enough to retain ambition and drive, and bearing mind we are a Div 1 club appointing a former Premier Manager, as good as can be expected. Yes,got to give him time,reckon we will make the play offs this season if he has already got some players in mind and we keep john/rasiak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Those few who claim dissappointment........shame on you. This is a good appointment for a club in our position, and he has a proven track record. He will do well for us IMO..........get behind him. If it's great signings and showbiz managers you want......... I suggest Chelski!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 I agree with most others - initially underwhelmed but pleased on reflection. The appointment seems to fit well into what else has happened and been said. Always had reservations about WGS returning, much as I liked the guy. So, a big welcome to Saints, Alan, and Happy Birthday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFKA Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Good luck to you. He will go one of two ways for you. We were all ecstatic when we announced we had Pardew at Charlton. We looked at his record and thought if anything, we had landed a coup. Sadly for us, we landed a ****. If providing balance, it is worth noting we were a club on the slide when he took over. However, the club Pardew left is one that is virtually destroyed. He is arguably the most arrogant man in football, and i cannot think of one single thing he did that was good for our club. We still have players, 2 years on, who are on £7k a week and have never once sat on the first team bench. Whoever deals with periphery expenses is also in for a very busy time. Perhaps we were just desperately unlucky. Anyhow, if you want some Charlton feedback, this link is a good starting point. http://www.charltonlife.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=27435 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Good luck to you. He will go one of two ways for you. We were all ecstatic when we announced we had Pardew at Charlton. We looked at his record and thought if anything, we had landed a coup. Sadly for us, we landed a ****. If providing balance, it is worth noting we were a club on the slide when he took over. However, the club Pardew left is one that is virtually destroyed. He is arguably the most arrogant man in football, and i cannot think of one single thing he did that was good for our club. We still have players, 2 years on, who are on £7k a week and have never once sat on the first team bench. Whoever deals with periphery expenses is also in for a very busy time. Perhaps we were just desperately unlucky. Anyhow, if you want some Charlton feedback, this link is a good starting point. http://www.charltonlife.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=27435 was he before Dowie or after him? I thought he was the disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 However, the club Pardew left is one that is virtually destroyed. He is arguably the most arrogant man in football, and i cannot think of one single thing he did that was good for our club. We still have players, 2 years on, who are on £7k a week and have never once sat on the first team bench. been there .. done that:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 But with the greatest respects Nick, if a chairman plops two world class players on your doorstep any decent manager would adapt or, better still, use them. I wouldn't expect them to sulk and keep them on the bench... I digress though, onwards and upwards... So just to confirm you are happy if a football club board interferes in player recruitment and happy if the chief exec forces players on the manager. And it is the manager in the wrong if he decides not to play said players. So if a chief exec says "we're buying so and so and you are playing him" that is a scenario you are perfectly happy with? I do hope you have remained consistent in those opinions over the years regardless of the clubs or chairmen involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genk Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Any news on a press conference?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 was he before Dowie or after him? I thought he was the disaster. Dowie had a handful of games. He did spend a lot of money but given a full season he would probably have kept them up. Les Reed was the disaster, their in house Wigley appointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Any news on a press conference?? It is Friday!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Am I the only one who thinks Alan Pardew is an utter tool? Is this not also the same guy who had Tevez at his disposal at West Ham, yet didn't play them? Sound footballing decision there!! Great first post !! The same could be levelled at Ferguson, suppose you think he's a tool ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torres Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 So just to confirm you are happy if a football club board interferes in player recruitment and happy if the chief exec forces players on the manager. And it is the manager in the wrong if he decides not to play said players. So if a chief exec says "we're buying so and so and you are playing him" that is a scenario you are perfectly happy with? I do hope you have remained consistent in those opinions over the years regardless of the clubs or chairmen involved. Pwnd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
so22saint Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Well pleased with this - welcome aboard Alan. Alan Pardew's red and white army! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right sider Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Pleasantly surprised. Could've been alot worse, he did well at Reading and knows the division. Feel he could build something given time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 A realistic and sensible appointment. Has done well at other clubs except Charlton. Has a 42% win ratio which is better then most people, WGS only had 33% before moving to Celtic and Wotte has a 22% ratio. The guy if given the right backing by the chairman could do well here. For League One it is a good signing and if he can get a team together like he did at West Ham and at Reading then we should do well. For those negatives who are already having a go who did you expect Fergie? Wenger? Strachan did well here but he was never going to come here again while we are where we are. Of what is available Pardew is a manager who gets teams playing nice football, he is respected despite his firey personality in football. He in a way is like Southampton, a person/team who has had a rough patch and needs to have some stability to build for the future. Of what was available he was not the dreamers choice but if we are after a good man manager who will tell it like it is then we have found that man. So Welcome Alan lets now start getting in some players! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLT's Headed Goals Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Probably been posted before:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nRE1vC4ijM He talks a good game anyway and it seems like he didn't want to come back to just any club. TBH I'm just happy that we're back to a proper manager and no more experiments. Anyone not happy with Pardew should take a look at that, comes across as an intelligent guy. Good luck Alan, I'm sure you won't need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFKA Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Dowie was only manager for about 12 games. He pushed us against the ropes, Pardew then repeatedly smashed us in the stomach. Unfortunately our board gave him full backing because we all had faith in him. We had two left wingers on loan at the same time (Scott Sinclair and Lee Cook, both on around £10k a week), and he chose not to play them and stick with the player we already had. We had new loans coming and going on a daily basis, so many some of them couldn't make the squad. He spent £5.5m on Luke Varney, McLeod and Andy Gray, all not wirth a transfer fee within two years. He said Luke Varney had more ability than Tevez, your players won't see anything less than 5-star hotels, pre-match meals will now be at the De Vere in the Harbour, i could go on all day. As i said, perhaps we were just unlucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Good luck to you. He will go one of two ways for you. We were all ecstatic when we announced we had Pardew at Charlton. We looked at his record and thought if anything, we had landed a coup. Sadly for us, we landed a ****. If providing balance, it is worth noting we were a club on the slide when he took over. However, the club Pardew left is one that is virtually destroyed. He is arguably the most arrogant man in football, and i cannot think of one single thing he did that was good for our club. We still have players, 2 years on, who are on £7k a week and have never once sat on the first team bench. Whoever deals with periphery expenses is also in for a very busy time. Perhaps we were just desperately unlucky. Anyhow, if you want some Charlton feedback, this link is a good starting point. http://www.charltonlife.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=27435 The jist of it is "good luck Alan, hope you do well down there, what a guy". Or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxi_sopez Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Very good manager imo, got West Ham to a cup final they were 30 seconds from winning, also got them promoted to the Premiership! I think a real coup for league 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Dowie was only manager for about 12 games. He pushed us against the ropes, Pardew then repeatedly smashed us in the stomach. Unfortunately our board gave him full backing because we all had faith in him. We had two left wingers on loan at the same time (Scott Sinclair and Lee Cook, both on around £10k a week), and he chose not to play them and stick with the player we already had. We had new loans coming and going on a daily basis, so many some of them couldn't make the squad. He spent £5.5m on Luke Varney, McLeod and Andy Gray, all not wirth a transfer fee within two years. He said Luke Varney had more ability than Tevez, your players won't see anything less than 5-star hotels, pre-match meals will now be at the De Vere in the Harbour, i could go on all day. As i said, perhaps we were just unlucky. i know what you mean I really honestly thought we were dead certs for survival when redknapp strolled into town...yet................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BotleySaint Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Finally, after all these years, a real manager!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Welcome and good luck Alan - slightly miffed I didn't even get an interview Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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