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Lets not forget that when WGS came to us - he was considered damaged goods after getting Coventry relegated.

 

As I said on the other thread, people forget how young he is (only a couple years older than NP) and he's actually been there and done it (numerous playoffs, promotions, prem experience, a FA cup final which West Ham was within whiskers of winning - would have been the first english manager to win the trophy in well over a decade).

 

For f**k sake i don't know what people expect, especially as their choices are no more inspired -yes big reputations but largely merry-go-round casualties.

 

People defend him by saying that League 1 -10 points Southampton shouldn't expect a big name. That's true to an extent but its also ungenerous, obscuring the fact that Pardew's record his excellent in its own right:

 

His average points per game is 1.51 points over more than 450 games -that's better than coppell, redknapp, hoddle and pearson (even though NP has spent most of his managerial career with championship winning Leicester). Its not actually far behind WGS even though WGS spent four years in the SPL which is a virtual monopoly.

 

Welcome Pards - an extremely shrewd appointment that suggests Liebherr and co are learning very quickly.

 

Very sensible. Very true.

 

Happy days!

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His average points per game is 1.51 points over more than 450 games -that's better than coppell, redknapp, hoddle and pearson (even though NP has spent most of his managerial career with championship winning Leicester).

 

Oooh. Wait until somebody reads this. Standby for an onslaught of posts the like of which you will not believe. :tfrag:

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Lets not forget that when WGS came to us - he was considered damaged goods after getting Coventry relegated.

 

As I said on the other thread, people forget how young he is (only a couple years older than NP) and he's actually been there and done it (numerous playoffs, promotions, prem experience, a FA cup final which West Ham was within whiskers of winning - would have been the first english manager to win the trophy in well over a decade).

 

For f**k sake i don't know what people expect, especially as their choices are no more inspired -yes big reputations but largely merry-go-round casualties.

 

People defend him by saying that League 1 -10 points Southampton shouldn't expect a big name. That's true to an extent but its also ungenerous, obscuring the fact that Pardew's record his excellent in its own right:

 

His average points per game is 1.51 points over more than 450 games -that's better than coppell, redknapp, hoddle and pearson (even though NP has spent most of his managerial career with championship winning Leicester). Its not actually far behind WGS even though WGS spent four years in the SPL which is a virtual monopoly.

 

Welcome Pards - an extremely shrewd appointment that suggests Liebherr and co are learning very quickly.

Post of the day, for me.

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Oh, well so sorry that Guus Hiddink and Mourinho weren't available to take up the best job in er league one.

 

wasnt expecting them as you probably would expect and of course my underwhemled state is all IMHO and as always I will be ready to post positives .. but right now...sorry and I paid my £5 so....

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This is great news on all fronts! As the Daily Echo pointed out, had he of waited a little longer he would've been offered a "higher profile" job (for once the Daily Echo hit the nail square on the head) but maybe ML and AP feel they have the same passion and vision for this club.

 

AP has already proven his credentials at this level and further up, we we're never going to get a Premiership Manager coming down to this level and I always thought it would be a guy previously without a job but I must admit, this is better than I thought we we're going to get! The ability to get his players to play better than they should is maybe 1 think ML liked about him as he no doubt would've known about West Ham's Cup Final appearance before AP came in for interviewing.

 

Of course there will be some people who won't be happy with this appointment but that's football, nothing ML will do is going to make everyone happy again, the only thing he could do which will make all Saints fans happy is the 1 thing he has done, save this great club, no other decision he will make will get 100% of Saints fans happy again, not everyone was happy with MW being sacked and as I said not everyone will be happy with AP being appointed but never mind! The main thing I think we need to do is give him till the end of the Jan transfer window before criticising him if he gets off to that much of a bad start, 2-3 weeks to prepare a team for the season aint very long at all!

 

The absolute minimum I would expect from us this season now would be 10 points from play-off spot, obviously if we do nick a play-off spot that would be fantastic, Leeds managed it with -15 so what's stopping us but if it doesn't happen it doesn't matter, start next season on level pegging and get the title lol

 

Delighted with the appointment so all that's left to say is.....

 

ALAN PARDEW's RED AND WHITE ARMY!!!!!!! COYR!!!!!!!

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If he can install discipline and get some of these kids fit - cos how a bunch of 18 - 24 year olds can look so knackered after 60 mins still beats me I'm afraid - that will go half way towards getting us out this league.

 

That and about 5 or 6 decent signings.

 

Very good choice - welcome Alan :)

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This is great news on all fronts! As the Daily Echo pointed out, had he of waited a little longer he would've been offered a "higher profile" job (for once the Daily Echo hit the nail square on the head) but maybe ML and AP feel they have the same passion and vision for this club.

 

AP has already proven his credentials at this level and further up, we we're never going to get a Premiership Manager coming down to this level and I always thought it would be a guy previously without a job but I must admit, this is better than I thought we we're going to get! The ability to get his players to play better than they should is maybe 1 think ML liked about him as he no doubt would've known about West Ham's Cup Final appearance before AP came in for interviewing.

 

Of course there will be some people who won't be happy with this appointment but that's football, nothing ML will do is going to make everyone happy again, the only thing he could do which will make all Saints fans happy is the 1 thing he has done, save this great club, no other decision he will make will get 100% of Saints fans happy again, not everyone was happy with MW being sacked and as I said not everyone will be happy with AP being appointed but never mind! The main thing I think we need to do is give him till the end of the Jan transfer window before criticising him if he gets off to that much of a bad start, 2-3 weeks to prepare a team for the season aint very long at all!

 

The absolute minimum I would expect from us this season now would be 10 points from play-off spot, obviously if we do nick a play-off spot that would be fantastic, Leeds managed it with -15 so what's stopping us but if it doesn't happen it doesn't matter, start next season on level pegging and get the title lol

 

Delighted with the appointment so all that's left to say is.....

 

ALAN PARDEW's RED AND WHITE ARMY!!!!!!! COYR!!!!!!!

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Very pleased with this appointment. Putting aside the debacle that was Charlton, he's got an excellent track record.

 

Even with Pardew at the helm, I'd be happy if we just didn't get relegated again next season. Demoralised, unfit squad in tatters starting at -10 will take some turning around. Not to mention the mentality of failure that has hung around for years before this take over. Next season will hopefully be about getting the right foundations in place, with some signs that we can push forward in year 2 coming in once he has the squad back in shape.

 

Anything else will be a bonus. I'm pretty happy that we've a manager who I can *see* has done this before, and not having to wish everything *might* turn out for the best.

 

Spot on !

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Lets not forget that when WGS came to us - he was considered damaged goods after getting Coventry relegated.

 

As I said on the other thread, people forget how young he is (only a couple years older than NP) and he's actually been there and done it (numerous playoffs, promotions, prem experience, a FA cup final which West Ham was within whiskers of winning - would have been the first english manager to win the trophy in well over a decade).

 

For f**k sake i don't know what people expect, especially as their choices are no more inspired -yes big reputations but largely merry-go-round casualties.

 

People defend him by saying that League 1 -10 points Southampton shouldn't expect a big name. That's true to an extent but its also ungenerous, obscuring the fact that Pardew's record his excellent in its own right:

 

His average points per game is 1.51 points over more than 450 games -that's better than coppell, redknapp, hoddle and pearson (even though NP has spent most of his managerial career with championship winning Leicester). Its not actually far behind WGS even though WGS spent four years in the SPL which is a virtual monopoly.

 

Welcome Pards - an extremely shrewd appointment that suggests Liebherr and co are learning very quickly.

 

Well said!

Pardew is a big name in football and ML's team have done an excellent job in securing us a capable experieced winner to be manager.

I am delighted;):D

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At last a proven manager who knows how to get us out of these poxy Divisions and then get us playing how we used to in the Premier (when we were good, not dire!)

 

Where the hell does all this euphoria come from over AP. He is an inescure manager who loves to big himself up. Whilst it is good to be positive and support the guy now he is here, I for one was really dissapointed when I heard the news. He always looks clueless in a crisis which transmits to the players. Man management skills are also suspect according to rumours in the press during his West Ham and Charlton days. Could turn out to be a Stachan however I don't believe for a second he is in his league.

 

Summary:

 

Appointment 5 out of 10 with results to match.........

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If somewhat surprising, it’s a cracking appointment when all is considered.

 

I really liked watching West Ham when he was managing them in the premiership; they played some cracking football and had a real team spirit about them.

 

I think Charlton was a difficult one for him. If you remember when we came out of the prem the first season, redkrapp struggled much the same as pardrew did - both for the same reasons , they weren’t really given the 'clout' they needed to make an impact.

 

If we support him (which I believe we will) and the structure which is put in place around him works...then he will guide us through the leagues.

 

At league 1 level he is a big name, heck - even at championship level I’d have been happy with him.

 

I know a lot of us had our hearts set on a WGS return and if that didn’t happen anything else would feel a bit underwhelming...well I actually feel pleasantly surprised by the pardrew appointment.

 

I believe IT IS a statement of intent from us - at this level, no one else in league one would be able to attract him.

 

Good job Markus/Cortese/Oldknow....onwards and upwards.

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10/10 appointment I reckon..AP was a decent player, who has a proven track record as a manager in most leagues, this is the best thing to happen to us in years..and he wanted to come to us as well, thats a Brucie Bonus for a start !!

Good luck my son..get us going again !!!

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He's serious, stable and experienced. As far as I know he doesn't have any baggage and so for me he perfectly reflects what little we know of the new owner.

 

If Pardew has any sense he'll be looking at this as a long term appointment, I just hope the owners are as good as their word and are here for the long haul. I don't expect promotion this season, perhaps, just perhaps a play off place!

 

I wish him luck.

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If somewhat surprising, it’s a cracking appointment when all is considered.

 

I really liked watching West Ham when he was managing them in the premiership; they played some cracking football and had a real team spirit about them.

 

I think Charlton was a difficult one for him. If you remember when we came out of the prem the first season, redkrapp struggled much the same as pardrew did - both for the same reasons , they weren’t really given the 'clout' they needed to make an impact.

 

If we support him (which I believe we will) and the structure which is put in place around him works...then he will guide us through the leagues.

 

At league 1 level he is a big name, heck - even at championship level I’d have been happy with him.

 

I know a lot of us had our hearts set on a WGS return and if that didn’t happen anything else would feel a bit underwhelming...well I actually feel pleasantly surprised by the pardrew appointment.

 

I believe IT IS a statement of intent from us - at this level, no one else in league one would be able to attract him.

 

Good job Markus/Cortese/Oldknow....onwards and upwards.

 

COYR

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wasnt expecting them as you probably would expect and of course my underwhemled state is all IMHO and as always I will be ready to post positives .. but right now...sorry and I paid my £5 so....

 

Jesus!!! I've just been hit by a dummy someone's spat out. Grow up!!:smt022.

 

I've read just about every message on this thread and like some was a little bit disappointed at first but now I'm really very happy with the appointment. Good luck Alan and welcome.

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For all those who are unhappy with Pardew's appointment:

 

Brentford Andy Scott

Brighton Russell Slade

Bristol Rovers Paul Trollope

Carlisle United Greg Abbott

Charlton Athletic Phil Parkinson

Colchester United Paul Lambert

Exeter City Paul Tisdale

Gillingham Mark Stimson

Hartlepool United Chris Turner

Huddersfield Town Lee Clark

Leeds United Simon Grayson

Leyton Orient Geriant Williams

Millwall Kenny Jackett

Milton Keynes Paul Ince

Norwich City Bryan Gunn

Oldham Athletic Dave Penney

Southampton Alan Pardew

Southend Steve Tilson

Stockport County Gary Ablett

Swindon Town Danny Wilson

Tranmere Rovers John Barnes

Walsall Chris Hutchings

Wycombe Peter Taylor

Yeovil Town Terry Skiverton

 

Who would you rather have in this league??

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For all those who are unhappy with Pardew's appointment:

 

Brentford Andy Scott

Brighton Russell Slade

Bristol Rovers Paul Trollope

Carlisle United Greg Abbott

Charlton Athletic Phil Parkinson

Colchester United Paul Lambert

Exeter City Paul Tisdale

Gillingham Mark Stimson

Hartlepool United Chris Turner

Huddersfield Town Lee Clark

Leeds United Simon Grayson

Leyton Orient Geriant Williams

Millwall Kenny Jackett

Milton Keynes Paul Ince

Norwich City Bryan Gunn

Oldham Athletic Dave Penney

Southampton Alan Pardew

Southend Steve Tilson

Stockport County Gary Ablett

Swindon Town Danny Wilson

Tranmere Rovers John Barnes

Walsall Chris Hutchings

Wycombe Peter Taylor

Yeovil Town Terry Skiverton

 

Who would you rather have in this league??

 

Good shout, was thinking this earlier. I've never even heard of some of the managers on this list. Pardew is high profile, experienced in higher leagues and a solid appointment.

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Where the hell does all this euphoria come from over AP. He is an inescure manager who loves to big himself up. Whilst it is good to be positive and support the guy now he is here, I for one was really dissapointed when I heard the news. He always looks clueless in a crisis which transmits to the players. Man management skills are also suspect according to rumours in the press during his West Ham and Charlton days. Could turn out to be a Stachan however I don't believe for a second he is in his league.

 

Summary:

 

Appointment 5 out of 10 with results to match.........

Looks like you're in the minority.

 

Not exactly euphoria, more relief and pleasure at a sensible and positive appointment. Don't forget, this sensible approach is very new to us as a club!

 

7.5/10 for me...

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For all those who are unhappy with Pardew's appointment:

 

Brentford Andy Scott

Brighton Russell Slade

Bristol Rovers Paul Trollope

Carlisle United Greg Abbott

Charlton Athletic Phil Parkinson

Colchester United Paul Lambert

Exeter City Paul Tisdale

Gillingham Mark Stimson

Hartlepool United Chris Turner

Huddersfield Town Lee Clark

Leeds United Simon Grayson

Leyton Orient Geriant Williams

Millwall Kenny Jackett

Milton Keynes Paul Ince

Norwich City Bryan Gunn

Oldham Athletic Dave Penney

Southampton Alan Pardew

Southend Steve Tilson

Stockport County Gary Ablett

Swindon Town Danny Wilson

Tranmere Rovers John Barnes

Walsall Chris Hutchings

Wycombe Peter Taylor

Yeovil Town Terry Skiverton

 

Who would you rather have in this league??

 

 

 

Very happy with Alan Pardew. :cool:

 

But Peter Taylor, Steve Tilson, Dave Penney, Kenny Jackett, Simon Grayson and Paul Tisdale are no mugs. A few others are going to be out to give us a bloody nose too.

 

Really wish you hadn't posted that list. ****ed on my fire tonight :(

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For all those who are unhappy with Pardew's appointment:

 

Brentford Andy Scott

Brighton Russell Slade

Bristol Rovers Paul Trollope

Carlisle United Greg Abbott

Charlton Athletic Phil Parkinson

Colchester United Paul Lambert

Exeter City Paul Tisdale

Gillingham Mark Stimson

Hartlepool United Chris Turner

Huddersfield Town Lee Clark

Leeds United Simon Grayson

Leyton Orient Geriant Williams

Millwall Kenny Jackett

Milton Keynes Paul Ince

Norwich City Bryan Gunn

Oldham Athletic Dave Penney

Southampton Alan Pardew

Southend Steve Tilson

Stockport County Gary Ablett

Swindon Town Danny Wilson

Tranmere Rovers John Barnes

Walsall Chris Hutchings

Wycombe Peter Taylor

Yeovil Town Terry Skiverton

 

Who would you rather have in this league??

 

 

well said.

It should be achievable to be best side in this division - what we have at the moment, Pardew and money.

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Pleased with Pardew's appointment. He is a class above in this league and if the reputation of being strong with players is true then I think it's what we need.

 

Someone above posted the list of other L1 players, I'd be surprised if any of them had the same gravitas or contacts to bring in the loans and transfers we will need.

 

I recall my reaction to the previous two appointments of JP and MW: Who? and Why?. When I read at the platform today that Pardew was the new boss I was pleasantly surprised, 8/10 for me.

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Look at his signings in the other thread - he built the core of the Reading team that took the CCC by storm. He is just what we need - a proven success with a bit of a point to prove. The more I've thought about it today and looked at his record the better I feel about it

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Lets not forget that when WGS came to us - he was considered damaged goods after getting Coventry relegated.

 

As I said on the other thread, people forget how young he is (only a couple years older than NP) and he's actually been there and done it (numerous playoffs, promotions, prem experience, a FA cup final which West Ham was within whiskers of winning - would have been the first english manager to win the trophy in well over a decade).

 

For f**k sake i don't know what people expect, especially as their choices are no more inspired -yes big reputations but largely merry-go-round casualties.

 

People defend him by saying that League 1 -10 points Southampton shouldn't expect a big name. That's true to an extent but its also ungenerous, obscuring the fact that Pardew's record his excellent in its own right:

 

His average points per game is 1.51 points over more than 450 games -that's better than coppell, redknapp, hoddle and pearson (even though NP has spent most of his managerial career with championship winning Leicester). Its not actually far behind WGS even though WGS spent four years in the SPL which is a virtual monopoly.

 

Welcome Pards - an extremely shrewd appointment that suggests Liebherr and co are learning very quickly.

 

excellent post, a tip of the hat to you sir

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Alan Pardew is a fantastic appointment in League One IMO.

 

As much as I love and wanted Gordon back, I wouldn't want him to have ruined his status and make loads of fans think differently of him. He has done ALL he could do at Southampton.

 

Anyone moaning about Pardew seriously need to think about it, the man has a very good win % and did wonders at Reading and West Ham. It didn't work out for him at Charlton but I cannot think of a manager who has had several jobs in England and suceeded in all of them.

 

Last season it was some dutch clowns in The Championship, now it is a manager who I wouldn't swap for anyone else in League One.

 

He is much better than the names that were being branded out like Adams, Shearer etc.

 

Looking forward to a couple of new signings and a new league with a new era!

 

COYR!

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Top drawer appointment when all's said and done and the stats mentioned don't lie. It was a surprise this morning and I've often been told about his ego being a factor but if it gets results and his Charlton experience can be discounted as merely a blip, I'm now looking forward to the season with renewed belief that we do in fact have a bright future.

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For all those who are unhappy with Pardew's appointment:

 

Brentford Andy Scott

Brighton Russell Slade

Bristol Rovers Paul Trollope

Carlisle United Greg Abbott

Charlton Athletic Phil Parkinson

Colchester United Paul Lambert

Exeter City Paul Tisdale

Gillingham Mark Stimson

Hartlepool United Chris Turner

Huddersfield Town Lee Clark

Leeds United Simon Grayson

Leyton Orient Geriant Williams

Millwall Kenny Jackett

Milton Keynes Paul Ince

Norwich City Bryan Gunn

Oldham Athletic Dave Penney

Southampton Alan Pardew

Southend Steve Tilson

Stockport County Gary Ablett

Swindon Town Danny Wilson

Tranmere Rovers John Barnes

Walsall Chris Hutchings

Wycombe Peter Taylor

Yeovil Town Terry Skiverton

 

Who would you rather have in this league??

 

Has Ince gone back to MK Dons then ?

(I missed that!).

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For all those who are unhappy with Pardew's appointment:

 

Brentford Andy Scott

Brighton Russell Slade

Bristol Rovers Paul Trollope

Carlisle United Greg Abbott

Charlton Athletic Phil Parkinson

Colchester United Paul Lambert

Exeter City Paul Tisdale

Gillingham Mark Stimson

Hartlepool United Chris Turner

Huddersfield Town Lee Clark

Leeds United Simon Grayson

Leyton Orient Geriant Williams

Millwall Kenny Jackett

Milton Keynes Paul Ince

Norwich City Bryan Gunn

Oldham Athletic Dave Penney

Southampton Alan Pardew

Southend Steve Tilson

Stockport County Gary Ablett

Swindon Town Danny Wilson

Tranmere Rovers John Barnes

Walsall Chris Hutchings

Wycombe Peter Taylor

Yeovil Town Terry Skiverton

 

Who would you rather have in this league??

 

As of today - none of the above.

 

But, you can be sure that one of the names on that list that many of us say - WHO? to will be a roaring success and will move upwards during the season. Let us hope the deal we have with Pardew is good enough for him to not want to move to some "flailing" PL team for in late December, early January

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I think the general consensus is one of relief and pleasure. We all feared a much worse appointment and anybody who thought otherwise is dreaming. We now need a few players and I trust AP to bring in some players fully capable of improving the sad frail squad we have at present. Some of our players are about to get a serious culture shock. AP will suffer laziness no more and they will quickly be discarded if unable to show the necessary aptitude for the task ahead. I am looking forward to our new players arriving and can see January being exceptionally hectic if we have to drastically cull the squad.

I seriously believe we can now start dreaming of much better fare than that offered over the last few years.

Now it is time to improve the drinks and food in the stadium and we will have something to really celebrate with.

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As of today - none of the above.

 

But, you can be sure that one of the names on that list that many of us say - WHO? to will be a roaring success and will move upwards during the season. Let us hope the deal we have with Pardew is good enough for him to not want to move to some "flailing" PL team for in late December, early January

not many prem teams dip into two leagues down these days...the last two were pretty awful

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Dowie was only manager for about 12 games. He pushed us against the ropes, Pardew then repeatedly smashed us in the stomach.

 

Unfortunately our board gave him full backing because we all had faith in him. We had two left wingers on loan at the same time (Scott Sinclair and Lee Cook, both on around £10k a week), and he chose not to play them and stick with the player we already had. We had new loans coming and going on a daily basis, so many some of them couldn't make the squad. He spent £5.5m on Luke Varney, McLeod and Andy Gray, all not wirth a transfer fee within two years. He said Luke Varney had more ability than Tevez, your players won't see anything less than 5-star hotels, pre-match meals will now be at the De Vere in the Harbour, i could go on all day. As i said, perhaps we were just unlucky.

 

But he averaged about 1.24 points per game, not that bad.

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His record is: Average points, Reading 1.70, West Ham 1.47, Charlton 1.24,

overall average 1.53.

 

We keep hearing about the Charlton "debacle", "blip", "disaster", etc. But 1.24 points per game, while not earth-shattering, isn't that bad. Nowhere near the Wigley, Gray, Poortvliet, and Wotte level of incompetence!

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So "Alan Pardew's Red and White Army" it is!

 

Compared to anyone but Strachan, this is a very good appointment. It would have been good to get him in the CCC but to do so in L1 is remarkable.

 

Now please Alan, get some players in quick sharp. We have the best goalie in L1, we have at least two of the best strikers in Rasiak and Sagonowski (and

three in John?) and Rudi Skecel can be class but they all need motivating.

 

I can honestly say that I have forgotten what it feels like to be a football optimist. I'm thirty years old yet this is the first time I can remember thinking about Saints without wondering who we will have to sell to keep afloat or which board member is going to screw us over next. Strange that it has taken a drop to L1 with a ten point penalty to achieve that but as Jimmy Graves says..........

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