Matthew Le God Posted 16 July, 2009 Share Posted 16 July, 2009 is this the best we can get????............... can see us struggle if true but hope not Don't be stupid. Name a manger with a better track record than Pardew out of all of the current managers in League One? If we were in the Premiership, I'd be less inspired but for this level of 3rd tier football, appointing Alan Pardew is showing ambition. Of course I'd prefer Strachan but Pardew is a very good appointment imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 16 July, 2009 Share Posted 16 July, 2009 exactly. this time last year we were making do with a dutch experiment in the league above! nail > head Only a few weeks ago when I would have been happy with nickh as manager and that is saying something I can tell you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 16 July, 2009 Share Posted 16 July, 2009 Fair enough. Not as glamorous as WGS, Not as underwhelming as Adams. But, hey, what I would have given to have had him as manager last season instead of the hapless Dutch pair. But we have everything to play for. I have been saying this for days now, Strachan will be our DOF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambosa75 Posted 16 July, 2009 Share Posted 16 July, 2009 Sort of find myself feeling a bit indifferent to this I must admit. Decent enough track-record barring his spell with Charlton but hardly the name to get all the fans excited. That said, it is largely based on his time at Charlton that I come to this conclusion. If he was coming to us following his spells at Reading and West Ham I'd be delighted. He also seems to favour attacking football which is something to be positive about. There are others I'd prefer but there are a great deal more names I'd rather not have than him also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrek Posted 16 July, 2009 Share Posted 16 July, 2009 OK by me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 16 July, 2009 Share Posted 16 July, 2009 I see all those ITK "it's definitely Strachan" people have gone very, very quiet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 16 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 16 July, 2009 Sort of find myself feeling a bit indifferent to this I must admit. Decent enough track-record barring his spell with Charlton but hardly the name to get all the fans excited. That said, it is largely based on his time at Charlton that I come to this conclusion. If he was coming to us following his spells at Reading and West Ham I'd be delighted. He also seems to favour attacking football which is something to be positive about. There are others I'd prefer but there are a great deal more names I'd rather not have than him also. I agree with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 16 July, 2009 Share Posted 16 July, 2009 Overall if it is true i will be quite happy really. He is a good manager who has had a bit of a rough patch. Some of the things people are saying i remember they said about another manager coming here after he took Coventry down. Which shows anything can happen. The reality is we are in league one with minus 10 points. Our pre-season has all but gone and our squad is dreadful meaning this season i don't think we are looking at promotion. So whoever comes in must have at least a 2 year plan to get the club back to the CCC. If Pardew can do what he did at Reading and West Ham by building a squad with good players and an English attacking style attitude then we could go places. Naturally on the list there are people we would prefer but this season is probably a season to soon for them. Getting back to the prem league is going to take time, 3 years at the bare minimum. We need to build a team for that, a group of players who all have ambition to progress and all want to play. We have not had that team atmosphere for a long time. I'm sure given the right funds and support Pardew could do well here. He has done it before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fat Controller Posted 16 July, 2009 Share Posted 16 July, 2009 Never meant as a crticism just a fair question.... we just need to attract quality signings capable of doing a job in this league. Won't be surprised to see a Reading old boys like Murty, Lita, Bobby Convey and Glen Little signed up along with Matt Holland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 16 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 16 July, 2009 Wish Strachan had denied it publicly to stop the rumours flying. Just makes everyone feel just that little bit deflated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 16 July, 2009 Share Posted 16 July, 2009 I see all those ITK "it's definitely Strachan" people have gone very, very quiet... I expect some are snoring or mumbling WGS in their troubled sleep. I can't believe we didn't get Tony Adams - gutted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 16 July, 2009 Share Posted 16 July, 2009 I have been saying this for days now, Strachan will be our DOF. Not a good thing. Puts pressure on Pardew if things go wrong. Dof's never work out in England and normally end up as manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 16 July, 2009 Share Posted 16 July, 2009 I don't quite understand why people were wetting themselves over the prospect of Strachan coming back. He did a fantastic job here the first time around, but by the time he left it had gone very stale, and history tells us that returning managers are never much good the second time around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 16 July, 2009 Share Posted 16 July, 2009 Irony my friend Woods needs to perk up a bit tomorrow.........could be winging my way down the itchen bridge come Sunday evening otherwise LOL Of course, just a bit of friendly banter ! Well if anyone can get back into contention it is Woods but I did think he was really not any value though Golf is a sport I only follow in the Major events. I backed Mahan at the US PGA so decided to have a few quid on him again though really just as a bit of added interest. (£2.50 ew at 33/1 !!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 16 July, 2009 Share Posted 16 July, 2009 is this the best we can get????............... can see us struggle if true but hope not as opposed to which better option? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 16 July, 2009 Share Posted 16 July, 2009 (edited) I'm happy with that- people forget how young he is (only a couple years older than NP) and he's actually been there and done it (numerous playoffs, promotion, a FA cup final) -for f**k sake i don't know what people expect, especially as their choices are no more inspired -yes big reputations but largely merry-go-round casualties. Sounds like he's got passion - fair play for calling never-satisfied west ham fans w**kers (when he was still at the club). Using the word rape in post-match analysis is one (colourful) way of describing a perfectly timed tackle. welcome pards Edited 16 July, 2009 by shurlock spellink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Paul C Posted 16 July, 2009 Share Posted 16 July, 2009 I think that this could be a really good appointment for us. Pardew has a decent reputation and has shown when he builds his own team that they can perform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 16 July, 2009 Share Posted 16 July, 2009 Never meant as a crticism just a fair question.... we just need to attract quality signings capable of doing a job in this league. Won't be surprised to see a Reading old boys like Murty, Lita, Bobby Convey and Glen Little signed up along with Matt Holland That would be tasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrZuess1979 the 2nd Posted 16 July, 2009 Share Posted 16 July, 2009 he has nearly the same CV as WGS Very Happy with that appointment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 16 July, 2009 Share Posted 16 July, 2009 he has nearly the same CV as WGS Very Happy with that appointment Perhaps they both used one of those templates on Microsoft Word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 16 July, 2009 Share Posted 16 July, 2009 http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/114449/Saints-target-Pardew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 16 July, 2009 Share Posted 16 July, 2009 he has nearly the same CV as WGS Very Happy with that appointment At the point he took over Saints, Strachan's CV was pretty much bare in comparison to how Pardew's currently is if he is indeed the new manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 16 July, 2009 Share Posted 16 July, 2009 v.good recent interview - talking about using the break he's had to prepare/psyche himself up for the next challenge and to hit the ground running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 16 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 16 July, 2009 At the point he took over Saints, Strachan's CV was pretty much bare in comparison to how Pardew's currently is if he is indeed the new manager. Burley's was pretty good when he came here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintmatt Posted 16 July, 2009 Share Posted 16 July, 2009 I'm happy with that- people forget how young he is (only a couple years older than NP) and he's actually been there and done it (numerous playoffs, promotion, a FA cup final) -for f**k sake i don't know what people expect, especially as their choices are no more inspired -yes big reputations but largely merry-go-round casualties. Sounds like he's got passion - fair play for calling never-satisfied west ham fans w**kers (when he was still at the club). Using the word rape in post-match analysis is one (colourful) way of describing a perfectly timed tackle. welcome pards spot on.lets just give him our full support.COYR!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torres Posted 16 July, 2009 Share Posted 16 July, 2009 FFS. Really gutted if this was true, been some exciting names about and we get ****ing Pardew. Utter utter utter ****e. IMO of course. What f-ing planet are you on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrZuess1979 the 2nd Posted 16 July, 2009 Share Posted 16 July, 2009 Jesus Would WGS want to manage in L1 Would you rather we kept wotte (no offence wotte) A manager with LOWER league experience HAS proven credentials of numerous promotions with little money If we where in the prem i could understand but we are not!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 16 July, 2009 Share Posted 16 July, 2009 FFS. Really gutted if this was true, been some exciting names about and we get ****ing Pardew. Utter utter utter ****e. IMO of course. Until they took a gamble with Keane, he was favourite to replace magilton at big-spending Ipswich only a few months ago. Suggests we're punching above weight and its a more than a decent acquisition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
positivepete Posted 16 July, 2009 Share Posted 16 July, 2009 You never know we may get some stability, he has managed at all the levels we want to get back up to, so it may be the long term appointment we need Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Pardew has a win % total of 42%. To put that into perspective Wotte has 22% and Strachan has 45% (only 35% for his time with us). Stats wise he is not that bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick1976.4.38 Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 take what we are given now we are in league 1,if its pardew,i say good luck to him,take us on our upward journey back to the prem,coyr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Chorlton fans appear to not like the chap: http://www.charltonlife.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=27435 Be warned, some pretty colourful words on there. BTW what's his record like regarding spending on players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsAddict Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 I wouldn't have thought he would have wanted it. Great appointment if true as he has been promoted from league 1 and championship and has managed successful teams in the premiership. Also would have won the F.A cup if it wasn't for one of the best cup final goals ever. Delighted if it is him and am really looking forward to Saturday now. Although we have to hope he refrains from using the verb "to rape" in describing tackles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 (edited) Pardew has a win % total of 42%. To put that into perspective Wotte has 22% and Strachan has 45% (only 35% for his time with us). Stats wise he is not that bad. 1.51 points a game over a period of 460+ games. not half bad. compare with 1.49 points a game for NP who's spent more than half of his short career at league winning Leicester. I bet there's no current ENGLISH manager in the game with a better points haul than Pardew.:cool: Edited 17 July, 2009 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintNeil90 Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Good signing in my opinion. Yes Strachan was the dream but in reality not the 'best man' for the job. Pardew has been there and done it before and wants to prove himself again. He is well respected in the game and plays good attacking football. Im willing to give the guy a chance. Put it this way at least we have a big man manager once again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Pardew is passionate and his teams play good football. I used to work with a Reading nut who was absolutely gutted when AP left for West Ham - I think at that point in his career as a manager he had something like a 50% win average which is excellent in any league. He is also a bit of a fitness fanatic and Saints players can wave goodbye to easy street as he will undoubtedly instil discipline and fitness, which has been lacking for several seasons. Not WGS, not KK, but a solid experienced manager who has the ability to ultimately lead us back to the Premiership... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint J 77 Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 I am feeling slightly deflated with this appointment, I wanted a least a few more days of dreaming it was Strachan! It could have been a lot worse (cough…Tony Adams) but it also could have been SO much better. I guess it’s a realistic appointment considering our current position. I just felt we needed a passionate manager and Alan Pardew has never really come across that way to me. He seems more pensive and reserved to me. Not sure he is going to be able to inspire the fans that much; hopefully he will inspire the player though!. Let’s hope he has some idea of who he wants to bring in and can get on strengthening the squad! I have the feeling its going to be along hard season ahead, I don’t think I would have been feeling that so much if it had been Strachan. I hope Alan and Saints are a perfect fit and he will stick with us long term. Most importantly I hope he can get us playing football again and get us back to the big time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Don't forget that both WGS (coventry reject) and Hoddle (England reject) were meh signings too, and there was a lot of hoopla about Burley (great at hearts) and Redcrapp (relegation specialist, wheeler/dealer etc). Let's just wait and see, give the poor sod a chance eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Chorlton fans appear to not like the chap: http://www.charltonlife.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=27435 Be warned, some pretty colourful words on there. BTW what's his record like regarding spending on players? To be honest I can't be bothered to read the comments as Charlton Pathetic fans are some of the most moronic I have come across. Pardew has a pretty good record and has experience at this level. Took Reading to the League 2 place offs in 2001 after they had been struggling under Terry Bullivant and then took them into League 1 the following season where they finished in the play offs in their first season. Despite not being the type of charismatic manager West Ham fans tend to want he still took them to promotion from the CCC as well. He did well in the PL to begin with but one bad run and he was sacked. When he took over at Charlton they were already in serious decline and he never really got to terms with turning things around though I think many would have found managing Charlton at that point a thankless task as I don't consider them as anything other than an an average CCC team at best. Some might think he is a bit abrasive though anyone who gets under the skin of Arsene Whinger is fine by me! So I will certainly not be unhappy with him as our manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Pardew is passionate and his teams play good football. I used to work with a Reading nut who was absolutely gutted when AP left for West Ham - I think at that point in his career as a manager he had something like a 50% win average which is excellent in any league. He is also a bit of a fitness fanatic and Saints players can wave goodbye to easy street as he will undoubtedly instil discipline and fitness, which has been lacking for several seasons. Not WGS, not KK, but a solid experienced manager who has the ability to ultimately lead us back to the Premiership... Yes, I have heard pretty much the same things about him. Time for a reality check I think and remember we are a League 1 team after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Instilling discipline and fitness, wow, what wacky new age ideas... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Solid, dependable, shrewd manager. Not exactly in the wow league of appointments, but Saints fans can hardly be annoyed by that, with the club in the present position. And he's perfectly capable of taking Saints all the way back to the Premiership, and keeping them there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Hardly inspiring, but then neither was Pearson. Overall a good appointment if true. Rather him than many Tony Adams, Peter Reid, Alan Shearer or anyone from Holland. Welcome Alan. I wouldn't say no to Guus Hiddink. :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 As with any appointment, whether we are happy or not is not relevant but what matters is results on the pitch - that is how a manager should be judged and not pre-judged by previous history - the majority were happy with Burley when he was appointed and unhappy with WGS when he got appointed and we got both of those wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
action man Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/4497993.Exclusive___Pardew_to_be_named_Saints_boss/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
del boy Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Wait until tomorrow morning their will be numerous threads on the forum about it and no doubt an echo exclusive of how they knew first. ...spot on =D> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefuriousb Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 As I said I was hoping for something really exciting. Never mind. How about a football club to watch? Not exciting enough for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVSaint Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Happy with that. Not WGS or Coppell but plenty of potential here - passionate, no nonsense and a fair degree of player pulling power (not meant to sound dirty). Let's see what he can do. COYRs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefuriousb Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 Never meant as a crticism just a fair question.... we just need to attract quality signings capable of doing a job in this league. Won't be surprised to see a Reading old boys like Murty, Lita, Bobby Convey and Glen Little signed up along with Matt Holland And those would be bad signings in L1?? If he signed those then it won't be for not having the calibre/quality of player in the aim of gaining promotion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefuriousb Posted 17 July, 2009 Share Posted 17 July, 2009 so?! just because strachans wasn't good and he did well doesn't mean you can assume others will do the same! didnt people just think we'd get someone a bit more exciting who might get the fans back and actually give a bit of hope. charlton fans must be ****ing themselves. Yet someone who excites does guarantee success??????? Do you not think the hope....no, the expectancy would be better. We are L1! Once you have more realistic expectations you may come to realise WGS, Klinsmann, Curbs, KK were non starters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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