NorthamSteve Posted 15 July, 2009 Posted 15 July, 2009 Goodwill to him and his family. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/8151728.stm
The Sholing Shadow Posted 15 July, 2009 Posted 15 July, 2009 Yes, I was shocked at this. I've heard him several times on 5 Live very recently. Very best wishes.
Legod Third Coming Posted 15 July, 2009 Posted 15 July, 2009 Shocked, not deserved by anybody. Good luck son.
chrisobee Posted 15 July, 2009 Posted 15 July, 2009 Yep, it's been discussed on The Lounge for a few days now, very sad. http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=14856
lordswoodsaints Posted 15 July, 2009 Posted 15 July, 2009 Heard this the other day and it got me thinking about the time we nearly signed him from Luton but he ended up going to the arse.always thought he would have done alright for us. Hope he makes it but it doesn't look good.
saint_bert Posted 15 July, 2009 Posted 15 July, 2009 Good luck John. It's is a terrible illness and I hope you make a full recovery.
Fan The Flames Posted 15 July, 2009 Posted 15 July, 2009 I like listening to him on 5live, good contributer and thousand of times better than the tit Savage. I wish John all the best.
Micky Posted 15 July, 2009 Posted 15 July, 2009 Really never rated him as a player - but never gave more than his all - I wish him all the best and hope he makes a speedy recovery.
Jesus Reigned Posted 15 July, 2009 Posted 15 July, 2009 Last time I saw him play he got away with drop-kicking Ostlund in the chest for West Brom. Good luck to him.
Nutwood2 Posted 15 July, 2009 Posted 15 July, 2009 My God. That is awful. So quick. I only hope you can recover from this, John. You're a great character. Fight on mate.
RedAndWhite91 Posted 15 July, 2009 Posted 15 July, 2009 It's well sad, hope he is alright. Wish him all the best.
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 15 July, 2009 Posted 15 July, 2009 Truly horrific news, my best wishes to John and his family. Puts everything in context. I can't believe how quickly that's all happened.
Saintjersey Posted 15 July, 2009 Posted 15 July, 2009 Very sad news, don't wish it on anyone. Get better soon John.
paulwantsapint Posted 15 July, 2009 Posted 15 July, 2009 He would have great as Dowie's replacement in 95 Best moment had to be mistaking Berkovic head for the ball while at west ham
gonzo Posted 15 July, 2009 Posted 15 July, 2009 It doesn't look good at all for him. I wish him a full recovery, nobody should have to suffer with cancer.
CB Fry Posted 15 July, 2009 Posted 15 July, 2009 That is truly frightening, especially as he is only a year older than me and unlike me has been a professional sportsman since his teens. Granted not the leanest but still. When he's been on the radio I thought he was turning into a pretty decent pundit too. Good luck to him.
Langleysaint Posted 15 July, 2009 Posted 15 July, 2009 Terrible news , my thoughts are with his family.
Saint137 Posted 15 July, 2009 Posted 15 July, 2009 Moral of the story is check your ******** regularly and don't be embarrased to go to the docs, the absolute worst they are going to do to you is stick their finger up your arse. Small indignity to endure in order to not die...
Block 5 Posted 15 July, 2009 Posted 15 July, 2009 Thinking of John and his family and friends. A real grafter of a footballer.
Saint Billy Posted 15 July, 2009 Posted 15 July, 2009 Hopefully like you are on the pitch you will be a true warrior and win the battle. Thoughts are with you John.
Chez Posted 15 July, 2009 Posted 15 July, 2009 bumped into him on holiday a few years ago now. Getting proper bevvied up and sweating furiously on a late night dance floor forever became known as doing a Hartson. All the best to him and what was then a young family.
surrey1saint Posted 15 July, 2009 Posted 15 July, 2009 Terrible.The dreaded Cancer strikes again.Wish him well. There by the grace of God...
saintwarwick Posted 15 July, 2009 Posted 15 July, 2009 Last time I saw him play he got away with drop-kicking Ostlund in the chest for West Brom. Good luck to him. Yes I remember that, he only got away with it because jesus just got straight up and brushed himself down and carried on playing. Best of luck John.
Tractor_Saint Posted 15 July, 2009 Posted 15 July, 2009 There's never a right time to be told you've got cancer but it's got to be exponential at the age of 34 with a young family. All the best John and fingers crossed for you and your family.
S-Clarke Posted 15 July, 2009 Posted 15 July, 2009 Too bloody young, i'm shocked at how quick it's done this to him. All the best...
oxfordshire_saint Posted 15 July, 2009 Posted 15 July, 2009 To be honest, he was never a player I particularly liked, but he was a double-hard b@stard! Hopefully he can use that fighting spirit to overcome the disease, here's hoping he has a full recovery.
Dicko Posted 15 July, 2009 Posted 15 July, 2009 I used to work with a Welsh guy who became a Luton apprentice with Hartson Top bloke apparantly Very bad news, fingers crossed for him
Mr Tickle Posted 15 July, 2009 Posted 15 July, 2009 I’m really saddened by the news about John Hartson. I am sure I not only speak for myself but countless others!? John Hartson to me is always the player you hated only because you were totally and utterly jealous by his ability to play the beautiful game (Despite looking like a Cart Horse who was never going to hit a barn door with a banjo!) This man to me is always the one you wished played with you and not against you! The classic saying of ‘Never judge a book by it’s cover’ become all so apparent to me when I heard the words of this guy on the Radio recently (Talk sport I think!?) Not only was this Man intelligent and knowledgeable about football his communication skills and personality instantlyrly gave off the respect vibe which I believe any decent Manager commands. After listening to no more than 3 minutes of this man talk I was instantly won over. When Martinez (former Swansea) moved to Wigan I immediately thought the only man for the job would be big John H! He would have excelled and chieved without a showdown of a doubt! I was extremely surprised he was not appointed, maybe this was due to health problems? As a Saints fan I wish Big John and his family all the strength to beat the terrible times they are facing. Upmost respect from me! Keep fighting big man!
L1Minus10 Posted 15 July, 2009 Posted 15 July, 2009 Met him once in a bar in Bournemouth. He was there with West Ham and he called me a cheeky bastard for poncing a beer on their tab... Best of luck John, you're gonna need all you can get.
Tony Lynam Posted 15 July, 2009 Posted 15 July, 2009 (edited) I don't know John personally, but I am unfortunate enough to know a few people (an uncle included, who is still battling on) who have fallen foul of the same condition. Events like these put things into perspective - or even more to the point - remind us all that life is quite a precious gift, and football is a game. My thoughts and prayers are with John and I really hope that he can show an ounce of that fighting spirit which made him the player that he was. I am not a religous nor spiritual person in any way, but something tells me that he can pull through, and I dearly hope for his family that that feeling is founded. Good luck John - the road ahead will be tricky, but you have everyones support behind you. Tony Edited 15 July, 2009 by Tony Lynam
Frank's cousin Posted 16 July, 2009 Posted 16 July, 2009 Best wishes to John and his family - He is, as has been said, one of those players I always 'hated' when he played against us - tended to do well because he gave it his all, but whenever he has been heard in the media its been clear he was a true gent off the pitch - no one deserves this kind of situation and heartfelt best wishes to JH and all you know him.
Guest Dark Sotonic Mills Posted 16 July, 2009 Posted 16 July, 2009 It doesn't look good for him at all. Once cancer has spread to the lungs it is usually downhill very fast. A very nasty way to go as well as it was how my father-in-law died. Best wishes to him and his family.
Frank's cousin Posted 16 July, 2009 Posted 16 July, 2009 Although when these tumours metastasise to multiple organs, the odds of a recovery decline, there are good exampls of where treatments can work - Lance Armstrong being the most well known - He had testicular cancer that also metastesized to the lungs and brain yet made a full recovery - so its not a time to give up. With a luck and a good team anything is possible - so hang in there JOhn.
SW11_Saint Posted 16 July, 2009 Posted 16 July, 2009 Although when these tumours metastasise to multiple organs' date=' the odds of a recovery decline, there are good exampls of where treatments can work - Lance Armstrong being the most well known - He had testicular cancer that also metastesized to the lungs and brain yet made a full recovery - so its not a time to give up. With a luck and a good team anything is possible - so hang in there JOhn.[/quote'] Exactly - cancer treatment changing all the time too, so although clearly in a grave condition now (as anyone would be with a brain op) this does not mean it's "the end" by any means for John. He is a fighter too. Best wishes to him and his family.
Frank's cousin Posted 16 July, 2009 Posted 16 July, 2009 This might be a bit OTT but a chorus of 'there's only one Johnny Hartson' on Saturday would show our Class?
SW11_Saint Posted 16 July, 2009 Posted 16 July, 2009 It doesn't look good for him at all. Once cancer has spread to the lungs it is usually downhill very fast. Not true at all - all depends on facts and circumstances.
Guest Dark Sotonic Mills Posted 16 July, 2009 Posted 16 July, 2009 Not true at all - all depends on facts and circumstances. Very true, but I was going by statistics. [quote=Lung Carcinoma: Tumors of the Lungs". Merck Manual Professional Edition; Chest (American College of Chest Physicians) 111: 1710–1717. doi:10.1378/chest.111.6.1710; Minna, JD; Schiller JH (2008). Harrison's Principles of Internal Medicine (17th ed.). McGraw-Hill. pp. 551–562.]For non-small cell lung carcinoma, prognosis is generally poor. Following complete surgical resection of stage IA disease, five-year survival is 67%. With stage IB disease, five-year survival is 57%. The five-year survival rate of patients with stage IV NSCLC is about 1%. For small cell lung carcinoma, prognosis is also generally poor. The overall five-year survival for patients with SCLC is about 5%. Patients with extensive-stage SCLC have an average five-year survival rate of less than 1%. The median survival time for limited-stage disease is 20 months, with a five-year survival rate of 20%.
Guest Dark Sotonic Mills Posted 16 July, 2009 Posted 16 July, 2009 Not true at all - all depends on facts and circumstances. Very true, but I was going by statistics. Lung Carcinoma: Tumors of the Lungs. Merck Manual Professional Edition; Chest (American College of Chest Physicians) 111: 1710–1717. doi:10.1378/chest.111.6.1710;[/i] Minna, JD; Schiller JH (2008). Harrison's Principles of Internal Medicine (17th ed.). McGraw-Hill. pp. 551–562.]For non-small cell lung carcinoma, prognosis is generally poor. Following complete surgical resection of stage IA disease, five-year survival is 67%. With stage IB disease, five-year survival is 57%.[/url] The five-year survival rate of patients with stage IV NSCLC is about 1%. For small cell lung carcinoma, prognosis is also generally poor. The overall five-year survival for patients with SCLC is about 5%. Patients with extensive-stage SCLC have an average five-year survival rate of less than 1%. The median survival time for limited-stage disease is 20 months, with a five-year survival rate of 20%.
Guest Dark Sotonic Mills Posted 16 July, 2009 Posted 16 July, 2009 Not true at all - all depends on facts and circumstances. Very true, but I was going by statistics. [quote=Lung Carcinoma: Tumors of the Lungs. Merck Manual Professional Edition; Chest (American College of Chest Physicians) 111: 1710–1717. doi:10.1378/chest.111.6.1710; Minna, JD; Schiller JH (2008 ). Harrison's Principles of Internal Medicine (17th ed.). McGraw-Hill. pp. 551–562.] For non-small cell lung carcinoma, prognosis is generally poor. Following complete surgical resection of stage IA disease, five-year survival is 67%. With stage IB disease, five-year survival is 57%. The five-year survival rate of patients with stage IV NSCLC is about 1%. For small cell lung carcinoma, prognosis is also generally poor. The overall five-year survival for patients with SCLC is about 5%. Patients with extensive-stage SCLC have an average five-year survival rate of less than 1%. The median survival time for limited-stage disease is 20 months, with a five-year survival rate of 20%.
sotonjoe Posted 16 July, 2009 Posted 16 July, 2009 Ridiculous timing too... Sunday - told he's got testicular cancer. By wed pm - actually it's in your brain and lungs as well. All in the space of 3 days. Craziness.
Micky Posted 31 July, 2009 Posted 31 July, 2009 Better news by the sounds of it, not out of the woods by a long chalk - but, as he did as a player, sounds like he's fighting this one all the way. Good luck to him: http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/John-Hartson-Condition-Of-Ex-Arsenal-Celtic-And-Wales-Football-Improving-Gets-Support-From-Troops/Article/200907415350988?lpos=UK_News_First_Home_Article_Teaser_Region_0&lid=ARTICLE_15350988_John_Hartson%3A_Condition_Of_Ex-Arsenal%2C_Celtic_And_Wales_Football_Improving%2C_Gets_Support_From_Troops
ottery st mary Posted 31 July, 2009 Posted 31 July, 2009 Good news..Keep improving and hopefully there is light at the end of the tunnel....
maxi_sopez Posted 31 July, 2009 Posted 31 July, 2009 i thought the worst when this thread popped up again.....but good news
Thedelldays Posted 31 July, 2009 Posted 31 July, 2009 Good news..Keep improving and hopefully there is light at the end of the tunnel.... isnt that supposed to be death..?
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