Dicko Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 Everyone will have to prove themselves here. Expect early season defeats until new players and new team are sorted out. So we could be more than -10 points after a month. That is when we fans and the new manager, whoever he is and whatever his background, will be truly tested. I'm confident it will all come good eventually. But it will be a case of gradually building confidence and all having belief. Strachan will be given a longer honeymoon period than anyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 So you disagree big deal this is the whole thing about a forum a discussion board we can put our points of view across. At least Pinnacle were trying to find a manager during their negoiations Without out rude comments from sanctimonous people like you Pot kettle and all that, by the way my post was in no way rude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansums Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 My feeling on the managers out there are thus Strachan - fans choice but arguably could walk in to a Prem job and may want to take a risk that would hurt his manager stock Keegan - Big name but out of the loop football wise and would not know the players we need. T Adams - PR disaster and not wanted by the fans S Cotteril - Good with lower budgets but would not give the "bums on seats" appeall or spark the fans imagination. A more realistic option if we had less of a financial backing Wise - Bad press since Newcastle and been there with Saints. Not sure the ****ney wideboy approach would work with our set up Boothroyd - stock has been damaged after a sacking from Watford, one season wonder or talented young manager?? Poyet - Not talked about but could be a real dark horse. Fresh, young, good contacts and big reputation . I like this appointment personally Gross - Bad rep in England but did wonders in Switzerland. Would he take the job?? would we want him?? Hoddle - Out of the game a long time and divides the fans. Contreversy which im not sure the new owners would want Tisdale - small name, carving out a big reputation. Has done wonders with Exeter but this is a MASSIVE step up. Essentially Saints are a wolf in sheeps clothing with our potential but could he realise it??? Conclusions - Based on the current crop being banded about, it probabaly comes down to these three - Boothroyd - Poyet - Tisdale My vote - Poyet Thoughts ??? What about Dowie. Yes I know he failed at Charlton but that is not necessarily a bad thing (as a learning experience). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 I think the world of WGS and would accept him as boss like a shot, but if you look at the players bought and left us with and it is quite poor judgement IMO. In fact on a par with GH. His major quality was getting the team fit hungry and a unit. We need somebody who can pick a player as the squad needs some surgery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 What about Dowie. Yes I know he failed at Charlton but that is not necessarily a bad thing (as a learning experience).Dowie didnt help Newcastles defence when he returned.A busted flush IMO who did ok with Palace, mainly due to Andy Johnsons goals..and dives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 Boothroyd is my prediction and I would be pleased with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 Boothroyd is my prediction and I would be pleased with that me too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicko Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 Dowie didnt help Newcastles defence when he returned.A busted flush IMO who did ok with Palace, mainly due to Andy Johnsons goals..and dives Agreed Dowie's reputation has taken a battering since his Palace days He has Saints connections, but that shouldn't be a reason for giving him the job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 My feeling on the managers out there are thus Boothroyd - stock has been damaged after a sacking from Watford, one season wonder or talented young manager?? Poyet - Not talked about but could be a real dark horse. Fresh, young, good contacts and big reputation . I like this appointment personally Tisdale - small name, carving out a big reputation. Has done wonders with Exeter but this is a MASSIVE step up. Essentially Saints are a wolf in sheeps clothing with our potential but could he realise it??? Conclusions - Based on the current crop being banded about, it probabaly comes down to these three - Boothroyd - Poyet - Tisdale My vote - Poyet Thoughts ??? Firstly,that is as good a summary as I've seen and agree with most of your comments.Glad that you've ommited the dour duo of Coppell and Curbishley. I wouldn't want Boothroyd for his 'style' of hoofball. Of the other two,there are several similarities in what they offer and some areas of doubt.They both offer potential but can questioned on the fact neither have had money to spend,how would they handle that ? Poyet could indeed be a good choice although Tisdale is the more likely to remain at the club longer to build it back up.Poyet I could see being lured away to Spain or even Spurs when 'arry is found out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popester Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 Poyet and Wise for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 Pot kettle and all that, by the way my post was in no way rude. Well if it was not rude what was the point of it then. Just be sanctimonious thats all I would have thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 Firstly,that is as good a summary as I've seen and agree with most of your comments.Glad that you've ommited the dour duo of Coppell and Curbishley. I wouldn't want Boothroyd for his 'style' of hoofball. Of the other two,there are several similarities in what they offer and some areas of doubt.They both offer potential but can questioned on the fact neither have had money to spend,how would they handle that ? Poyet could indeed be a good choice although Tisdale is the more likely to remain at the club longer to build it back up.Poyet I could see being lured away to Spain or even Spurs when 'arry is found out. football snob alert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 Lots of predictable, same old faces. Alan Knill from Bury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 Firstly,that is as good a summary as I've seen and agree with most of your comments.Glad that you've ommited the dour duo of Coppell and Curbishley. I wouldn't want Boothroyd for his 'style' of hoofball. Of the other two,there are several similarities in what they offer and some areas of doubt.They both offer potential but can questioned on the fact neither have had money to spend,how would they handle that ? Poyet could indeed be a good choice although Tisdale is the more likely to remain at the club longer to build it back up.Poyet I could see being lured away to Spain or even Spurs when 'arry is found out. Pathetic attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 So Coppell is dour is he? Does anyone really care what the bloke is like over what he is like as a manager? Good lord some people are simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 So Coppell is dour is he? Does anyone really care what the bloke is like over what he is like as a manager? Good lord some people are simple. mental really.. "eer, i dont want coppell as he is not interesting"... you could not make it up...well, actually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 So Coppell is dour is he? Does anyone really care what the bloke is like over what he is like as a manager? Good lord some people are simple. I find Mr Wenger dour at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 Originally Posted by Badger View Post I wouldn't want Boothroyd for his 'style' of hoofball.(quote) What is best....3 passes with the ball in their net or 23 passes and the ball back with our goalie like most of last year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 I find Mr Wenger dour at times. He's a giggle after 15 pints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 He's a giggle after 15 pints So I'm led to believe but I still love to watch his teams play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 football snob alert Well,having witnessed the Branfoot style, I would want Saints to knowingly return to it. So Coppell is dour is he? Does anyone really care what the bloke is like over what he is like as a manager? Good lord some people are simple. Coppell's teams are also appear pretty dour to me.Palace for pitys sake were almost a template for Branfoot who coached under Coppell. I think,Gentlemen, we shall just have to agree to disagree on this issue without resorting to insults. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 mental really.. "eer, i dont want coppell as he is not interesting"... you could not make it up...well, actually Chris Nicholl was not very interesting in interviews...bloody good manager though as it turned out - arguably one of our best. Any chance of getting him back please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonswan Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 As several have already stated, Gus Poyet would be a great choice. He was THE brains at LEEDS when they did so well at the start of their League 1 campaign. I certainly wasn't Dennis Wise who jumped immediately after Poyet left, before he was found out. GP also knows how bigger clubs work. If this drags on and on and on . . . . . . Roberto Martinez should be available around January. He knows League 1 quite well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicko Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 Coppell's teams are also appear pretty dour to me. Didn't Reading score a record number of goals when they gained promotion from CCC? I've never found his teams dull tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 So we could be more than -10 points after a monthWell lets hope we are more than -10 points after a month, or are you suggesting that we might get deducted more points for being sh1te? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torres Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 Didn't Reading score a record number of goals when they gained promotion from CCC? I've never found his teams dull tbh That Reading team were very, very good to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 As several have already stated, Gus Poyet would be a great choice. He was THE brains at LEEDS when they did so well at the start of their League 1 campaign. Fact or opinion? I have never paid too much attention to the Poyet/Wise era at Leeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Mockles Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 I have just mentioned this on another thread but how about Jamie Redknapp? Has he been mentioned at all? (I haven't time to check all the threads!) FWIW, I think he'll make a very good manager one day and he's certainly a bright prospect, if he wants to go into football management. He talks a good game. People will jump on the "Skate" bandwagon (cos of his old man) but you can't blame Harry. Lowe f*cks off the best of people and I don't hold anything against either. Jamie may be comfortable with his Sky pundit work (he's doing well for himself, tenancious as he may be) but this could be a very good opportunity for him to get into management, with a solid coaching team behind him. Certainly with a foundation for the future. He knows the club (having played for us) and location wise it must be good for him. I think he could be a good contender. I still think WGS is a serious contender and pondering on what is a big decision for him personally. The Staplewood back story is clearly rubbish to put people off scent, imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW11_Saint Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 Firstly,that is as good a summary as I've seen and agree with most of your comments.Glad that you've ommited the dour duo of Coppell and Curbishley. I wouldn't want Boothroyd for his 'style' of hoofball. Of the other two,there are several similarities in what they offer and some areas of doubt.They both offer potential but can questioned on the fact neither have had money to spend,how would they handle that ? Poyet could indeed be a good choice although Tisdale is the more likely to remain at the club longer to build it back up.Poyet I could see being lured away to Spain or even Spurs when 'arry is found out. I'm with you on Boothroyd, but can't agree on Coppell being 'dour'. More like reserved and intelligent. But his record speaks for itself, and his teams always play fast attacking football. #1 choice in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Nelson Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 I couldn't help but have a look at your forum this morning to see what is going on. So as I have, I may as well be a little controversial - I could not disagree with this comment more. Andy Oldknow and his colleagues had better take their time and get the decision right. Be assured that they will be consulting with 'football people' over the appointment of the manager, and rest assured that they will want to take the care and time needed to ensure that it does not end up as a quick fix manager. Moreover, someone who can carefully develop the team for success beyond League 1. For what it is worth, I don't believe Tony Adams will be your next manager. I'm sure he's a really nice guy, but my money is on................... someone else! All the best, and good luck against Ajax Regards Tony Nice to see you back in circulation. I hope you're right regarding Oldknow, but we need more than luck against Ajax. It will be cringeworthy, but the team is well used not to beat even non-league opposition, so they won't be too worried. Funny how time moves on. Not that long ago I would have wanted you to tell us all that had been going on, but now, to be honest, I don't think I care about it anymore. I suppose that is progress. Regards, Clifford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 If our team suddenly take a trip to the seaside and start running up sandunes in their boots we'll know who is rally behind all this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaptopSaint Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 Poyet would be good. But my vote's with Coppell. Or perhaps - but may not be realistic - Stuart Pearce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 Blimey - I just an email from Andy Oldknow in response to my (polite) email about Tony Adams. Didn't expect that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 Blimey - I just an email from Andy Oldknow in response to my (polite) email about Tony Adams. Didn't expect that. And his response was/is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedWillie Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 yeah, me too !!! Thanked me for my 'note' !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 Can you ask if he has had any postcards recently from people on holiday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 And his response was/is? He said "**** off and mind your own business and let me get on with my job". Fair enough I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 (edited) And his response was/is? "Our catering department is world class and so is Tony Adams thank you please" :stary eyed emote thingy: Edited 14 July, 2009 by saintjay77 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 He said "**** off and mind your own business and let me get on with my job". Fair enough I suppose. That would have been my response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 He said "**** off and mind your own business and let me get on with my job". Fair enough I suppose.Actually it was just an auto-reply saying "Thanks for your note. Best wishes, Andy"....but I think that amounts to the same thing :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 Blimey - I just an email from Andy Oldknow in response to my (polite) email about Tony Adams. Didn't expect that. what did it say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 what did it say? F5, page up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicko Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 I've just had email from AO too He said don't worry, we needed a couple of idiots on the shortlist as a smokescreen Phew!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 Tony Adams still 8/11 on Sky Bet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 Tony Adams still 8/11 on Sky Bet Isn't 8/11 a hat size? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 Isn't 8/11 a hat size? I wouldn't bet on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 Well,having witnessed the Branfoot style, I would want Saints to knowingly return to it. . I think,Gentlemen, we shall just have to agree to disagree on this issue without resorting to insults. I think you might want to disagree with yourself first ... unless you add a great big NOT between the would and want :oops: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 The new manager has already been appointed! They're just holding off on the Tony Adams announcement until enough season tickets have been sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 The new manager has already been appointed! They're just holding off on the Tony Adams announcement until enough season tickets have been sold. Pinocchio your nose is growing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 The new manager has already been appointed! They're just holding off on the Tony Adams announcement until enough season tickets have been sold.Got mine of a credit card just in case I need a refund. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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