RonManager Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 Due Dilligence..Would appear to be the clear favourite...Mentioned so many times in recent weeks.....Never heard of him myself. He was my assistant when I was boss of Liverton FC. He went of to manage Everpool United but got lost on the way across the park and was never seen again. Honest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 I couldn't help but have a look at your forum this morning to see what is going on. So as I have, I may as well be a little controversial - I could not disagree with this comment more. Andy Oldknow and his colleagues had better take their time and get the decision right. Be assured that they will be consulting with 'football people' over the appointment of the manager, and rest assured that they will want to take the care and time needed to ensure that it does not end up as a quick fix manager. Moreover, someone who can carefully develop the team for success beyond League 1. For what it is worth, I don't believe Tony Adams will be your next manager. I'm sure he's a really nice guy, but my money is on................... someone else! All the best, and good luck against Ajax Regards Tony Do you think a couple of minor legal issues are holding things up Tony.....only kidding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 His record. OK so no one is going to employ him again then. Stuart Gray is now a manager but his record with us was poor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 OK so no one is going to employ him again then. Stuart Gray is now a manager but his record with us was poor stuart gray had a poor record in the prem adams on the other hand................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 He was my assistant when I was boss of Liverton FC. He went of to manage Everpool United but got lost on the way across the park and was never seen again. Honest I heard he was linked with the Skates, as recently as yesterday. Might have fallen through though apparently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 Patience, I am sure they will make the right choice Indeed - we want the right man for the job who will stick with us for years and various promotions - not someone who happens to be quckly and freely avaliable because we are desparate - I agree we need an appointment soon but it must be done sensibly Unless they appoint TA in which case I retract my argument Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertySFC Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 I couldn't help but have a look at your forum this morning to see what is going on. So as I have, I may as well be a little controversial - I could not disagree with this comment more. Andy Oldknow and his colleagues had better take their time and get the decision right. Be assured that they will be consulting with 'football people' over the appointment of the manager, and rest assured that they will want to take the care and time needed to ensure that it does not end up as a quick fix manager. Moreover, someone who can carefully develop the team for success beyond League 1. For what it is worth, I don't believe Tony Adams will be your next manager. I'm sure he's a really nice guy, but my money is on................... someone else! All the best, and good luck against Ajax Regards Tony Thanks , Are you attending the Ajax game ? You should because I think it's time to draw a line underneath all that has gone and look forward to the future , the main objective has been achieved , we still have a club to support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 OK so no one is going to employ him again then. Stuart Gray is now a manager but his record with us was poor John - so you would appoint Adams Yes/No? Baring in mind the boss wants to build both on and off the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Lynam Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 Do you think a couple of minor legal issues are holding things up Tony.....only kidding Very funny Nick! But I do have a sense of humour so I'll take that in the spirit in which I'm sure you meant it pal! All the best Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 ...... so you money is going ?.........who then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 I couldn't help but have a look at your forum this morning to see what is going on. So as I have, I may as well be a little controversial - I could not disagree with this comment more. Andy Oldknow and his colleagues had better take their time and get the decision right. Be assured that they will be consulting with 'football people' over the appointment of the manager, and rest assured that they will want to take the care and time needed to ensure that it does not end up as a quick fix manager. Moreover, someone who can carefully develop the team for success beyond League 1. For what it is worth, I don't believe Tony Adams will be your next manager. I'm sure he's a really nice guy, but my money is on................... someone else! All the best, and good luck against Ajax Regards Tony Who would you go for Tony? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Lynam Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 Thanks , Are you attending the Ajax game ? You should because I think it's time to draw a line underneath all that has gone and look forward to the future , the main objective has been achieved , we still have a club to support. Yes I will be going to the game. As you know, I am not actually a Saints fan (Liverpool for my troubles), but I've always held an interest with the club because of friends associated with it. And you're right, it is time to move on. Believe me, I'm still nursing raw wounds from my personal loss on this, let alone 3 months of work, but for the fans, I'm very pleased with the end result which was achieved, and I think you all owe the Administrator (Fry) a big thank you for that. He was a very hard guy to negotiate with, but a really top bloke away from the desk so to speak - and he really cared about the Club. Cheers Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Lynam Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 Who would you go for Tony? Last message as I'm off to a meeting - my heart would go for a big name (but I assure you Strachan won't be on the list because of personal reasons). My head would go for someone with experience at lower leagues and with that hunger to make a name for himself........... but your guess is as good as mine......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 Last message as I'm off to a meeting - my heart would go for a big name (but I assure you Strachan won't be on the list because of personal reasons). My head would go for someone with experience at lower leagues and with that hunger to make a name for himself........... but your guess is as good as mine......... Paul Ince it is then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertySFC Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 Who would you go for Tony? Would be really interesting to know if you had the prospect of a new manager in mind , would an up and coming guy be your thoughts or an experienced lower league manager or a high profile name ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 Very funny Nick! But I do have a sense of humour so I'll take that in the spirit in which I'm sure you meant it pal! All the best Tony Yep, Im sure you have had your leg pulled many times about this.We thnkfully have survived and can have a joke, although you losing money gives me no satisfaction.As with rival bidders it must hurt to have done so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 Would be really interesting to know if you had the prospect of a new manager in mind , would an up and coming guy be your thoughts or an experienced lower league manager or a high profile name ? they had keegan in mind...and were going to have hundreds of milllions behind them...:smt044 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerceSaint28 Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 Cheers Tony, Personally i think we have all moved on from what has happened. Objective has been achieved and we can all move on. I am pleased you don't think it is going to be Adams, i think the new owners would be mad to appoint someone to upset the fan base like that. On reflection and taking Strachan and Coppell out of the mix, i have been left with two candidates i think would be right for the club. Boothroyd or Poyet would for me be excellent appointments, who i think could fulfil the criteria needed and a long term plan. All the best Tony on your new ventures, its a shame it didn't work out for you but everything happens for a reason and i think the club is now in a strong position. Hopefully this can be sorted asap as we have a lot of work to do in the transfer market, i wou,d say at least 6-7 players needed and contracts of existing players to be resolved. Here is hoping we get the right guy captain to steer the ship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW11_Saint Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 Reading between the lines, as others have said, it seems that the new board have missed out on their #1 target, and are now looking elsewhere. Does seem odd that it has taken this long to sort out their criteria though - given they have "hit the ground running" in other areas (and this is THE most critical area). Given that Coppell wanted some "time off" wonder if this now plays in our favour? (although believe he was talking months rather than weeks - but you never know). Interesting 2p worth from TL too (thanks Tony) - we know AO has consulted with "football people" as he met with MLT, a good move, and hopefully he got some direction on that - perhaps towards whoever Pinnacle might have appointed??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Perrin Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 they had keegan in mind...and were going to have hundreds of milllions behind them...:smt044 Whereas your attempt to orchestrate a takeover was a raging success..... oh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW11_Saint Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 Cheers Tony, Personally i think we have all moved on from what has happened. Objective has been achieved and we can all move on. I am pleased you don't think it is going to be Adams, i think the new owners would be mad to appoint someone to upset the fan base like that. On reflection and taking Strachan and Coppell out of the mix, i have been left with two candidates i think would be right for the club. Boothroyd or Poyet would for me be excellent appointments, who i think could fulfil the criteria needed and a long term plan. All the best Tony on your new ventures, its a shame it didn't work out for you but everything happens for a reason and i think the club is now in a strong position. Hopefully this can be sorted asap as we have a lot of work to do in the transfer market, i wou,d say at least 6-7 players needed and contracts of existing players to be resolved. Here is hoping we get the right guy captain to steer the ship Please not Boothroyd... personality free-zone, and dire football to boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 I couldn't help but have a look at your forum this morning to see what is going on. So as I have, I may as well be a little controversial - I could not disagree with this comment more. Andy Oldknow and his colleagues had better take their time and get the decision right. Be assured that they will be consulting with 'football people' over the appointment of the manager, and rest assured that they will want to take the care and time needed to ensure that it does not end up as a quick fix manager. Moreover, someone who can carefully develop the team for success beyond League 1. For what it is worth, I don't believe Tony Adams will be your next manager. I'm sure he's a really nice guy, but my money is on................... someone else! All the best, and good luck against Ajax Regards Tony Fair play that you dont have sour grapes. It would be interesting to find out why you believe you were not able to finalise the deal when ML could. Its also interesting that you rule out WGS, I take it your group approached him and got a no thanks? You have probably gone now so wont see this though lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 they had keegan in mind...and were going to have hundreds of milllions behind them...:smt044 Give him a break - seems like a genuine guy who did his best. Seems like he may have lost more than us and in the end we got what is hopefully Mr Right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW11_Saint Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 Yes I will be going to the game. As you know, I am not actually a Saints fan (Liverpool for my troubles), but I've always held an interest with the club because of friends associated with it. And you're right, it is time to move on. Believe me, I'm still nursing raw wounds from my personal loss on this, let alone 3 months of work, but for the fans, I'm very pleased with the end result which was achieved, and I think you all owe the Administrator (Fry) a big thank you for that. He was a very hard guy to negotiate with, but a really top bloke away from the desk so to speak - and he really cared about the Club. Cheers Tony Thanks Tony - magnanimous of you. Although many of us may have been frustrated at the timing, especially when we felt we might miss out on a new buyer, I think the vast majority of fans see past that now and will only owe you thanks for the time, money and effort that went into your bid - and we were all particularly impressed with the way you kept Saints fans informed. Didn't pan out for you, which is a shame, but hopefully the club is now in a good place and I am sure you and your colleagues will be welcomed at SMS always (maybe one day not too far away we'll be playing 'your lot' down here again!!!). Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerceSaint28 Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 I think we need to get back to a winning mentality and he had that with Watford. If you look at Billy Davies, not great football but results. We are in a results business and our owners are going to want a winning team by any means. I think Boothroyd has a good knowledge of the lower leagues and can hit the ground running. We have a lot of work to do in a space of 3 weeks to get in at least 6 players, im hoping our scouts have at least identified potential new signings. Poyet i feel would work nicely also, he has worked with Leeds, knows the continental market and i feel he would be a good candidate also. My worry with Keegan is the lack of knowledge at this level. I remmeber him coming into the Newcastle set up last year and commenting he didn't know who half the squad were. God knows what he would think of Pulis, Wotton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 I couldn't help but have a look at your forum this morning to see what is going on. So as I have, I may as well be a little controversial - I could not disagree with this comment more. Andy Oldknow and his colleagues had better take their time and get the decision right. Be assured that they will be consulting with 'football people' over the appointment of the manager, and rest assured that they will want to take the care and time needed to ensure that it does not end up as a quick fix manager. Moreover, someone who can carefully develop the team for success beyond League 1. For what it is worth, I don't believe Tony Adams will be your next manager. I'm sure he's a really nice guy, but my money is on................... someone else! All the best, and good luck against Ajax Regards Tony It's interesting that Cortesa already made a clear statement that they will take time building the boardorrm structure. He seems to be a part of a transition team working on getting the whole club re-organised. Oldknow comes out with a statement that clearly follows on from that. They ARE new to the job, they are taking time, talking to people and looking to make the correct decision. And yet fans moan... A decision that will totally set up the entire ethos and structure of our club for the future, and we want to do something about it yesterday. That is SO much one of the reasons the UK gets itself into such a mess - the whole "Something must be done" metality, rather than spending a day or two and working out "What NEEDS to be done". Good to see you are still interested in what goes on. Maybe you could help find out just where these guys got their business plan? They sure hit the ground running. bet it was a good one with lots of pretty photos and research Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 Please not Boothroyd... personality free-zone, and dire football to boot. Totally agree and don't understand where the fascination for such a one season wonder comes from. If we are looking at ambitous young managers with potential and some record of success then Tisdale and Poyet stand out(although Poyet has not managed on his own account as yet). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 I assure you Strachan won't be on the list because of personal reasons Bugger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 Bugger as if Lynam would know, he thought MF could lay his hands on hundreds of millions, he thought the FL would give us an extra deduction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 Bugger I read that as he wouldn't be on TL's list due to personal reasons. Not that he didn't think WGS was on AO/NC/ML's list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 - my heart would go for a big name (but I assure you Strachan won't be on the list because of personal reasons). ... Bugger I read that as Strachan would not be on Tony's list "because of personal reasons",if TL was drawing it up.NOT,Strachan will not be available at all because of personal reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 Bugger No what I have heard at all. Strachan is about to go on holiday and wants to get away with his family. He needs a few more weeks and because of this the club will not be rushing into a decision. They are interviewing other candidates, but if they feel that Strachan is their man then they will wait until the end of July. Hence the story today about them not rushing. What they mean here is that they will not rush Strachan and not rule out others. Strachan is aware of this but would like a little bit longer. This is why his odds have change a little over the last few days. Personally I would put my money on Strachan for the main reason that the club know that is what the fans want and know he is the man to keep us on an upward spiral from the last few weeks. We will see though, but this is where my money will stay... for now. Kev Sim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopkins Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 No what I have heard at all. Strachan is about to go on holiday and wants to get away with his family. He needs a few more weeks and because of this the club will not be rushing into a decision. They are interviewing other candidates, but if they feel that Strachan is their man then they will wait until the end of July. Hence the story today about them not rushing. What they mean here is that they will not rush Strachan and not rule out others. Strachan is aware of this but would like a little bit longer. This is why his odds have change a little over the last few days. Personally I would put my money on Strachan for the main reason that the club know that is what the fans want and know he is the man to keep us on an upward spiral from the last few weeks. We will see though, but this is where my money will stay... for now. Kev Sim You are deluded. HTH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliemiller Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 No what I have heard at all. Strachan is about to go on holiday and wants to get away with his family. He needs a few more weeks and because of this the club will not be rushing into a decision. They are interviewing other candidates, but if they feel that Strachan is their man then they will wait until the end of July. Hence the story today about them not rushing. What they mean here is that they will not rush Strachan and not rule out others. Strachan is aware of this but would like a little bit longer. This is why his odds have change a little over the last few days. Personally I would put my money on Strachan for the main reason that the club know that is what the fans want and know he is the man to keep us on an upward spiral from the last few weeks. We will see though, but this is where my money will stay... for now. Kev Sim +1 What does TL Know anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerceSaint28 Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 My feeling on the managers out there are thus Strachan - fans choice but arguably could walk in to a Prem job and may want to take a risk that would hurt his manager stock Keegan - Big name but out of the loop football wise and would not know the players we need. T Adams - PR disaster and not wanted by the fans S Cotteril - Good with lower budgets but would not give the "bums on seats" appeall or spark the fans imagination. A more realistic option if we had less of a financial backing Wise - Bad press since Newcastle and been there with Saints. Not sure the ****ney wideboy approach would work with our set up Boothroyd - stock has been damaged after a sacking from Watford, one season wonder or talented young manager?? Poyet - Not talked about but could be a real dark horse. Fresh, young, good contacts and big reputation . I like this appointment personally Gross - Bad rep in England but did wonders in Switzerland. Would he take the job?? would we want him?? Hoddle - Out of the game a long time and divides the fans. Contreversy which im not sure the new owners would want Tisdale - small name, carving out a big reputation. Has done wonders with Exeter but this is a MASSIVE step up. Essentially Saints are a wolf in sheeps clothing with our potential but could he realise it??? Conclusions - Based on the current crop being banded about, it probabaly comes down to these three - Boothroyd - Poyet - Tisdale My vote - Poyet Thoughts ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westofshannonsaint Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 I don't think they're expecting us to be able to compete with Ajax even when we have a new manager and new signings to be fair. Regardless of who is in charge on Saturday I fully expect us to get spanked by Ajax, If a new manager is appointed after the game on Saturday he can start with a win against Hearts the following week & it's always nice to start the way you mean to go on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 I agree ... I've been saying that After the euphoria of being "saved" by Leibherr, things really have stalled IMHO So Oldknow says " no rush" ... really .... surprise to me Only WEEKS before the start of the Div 1 season Players being SOLD NONE coming IN NO Manager ... ( with repect to Henderson, " Caretakers" DO NOT WORK ) Players need to know a PERMANENT figurehead is in place, for stability if nothing else All we know at the moment is that we are NOT going to get a "Class" Manager like Strachan ... if we were, he would already be installed I still believe that Leibherr has NOT been able to get who HE wanted, and I don't believe all this Oldknow garbage of "No rush" We may have been "saved" as a Club, but even the most neutral of observers would say we are already in for a very torrid baptism into life in Div ! Getting a Manager appointed is vital ... NOW Mr Oldknow ...... not when you can get round to it We got rid of Lowe, we've got a billionaire as a new owner, we are not in debt and yet you still remain one of the most negative posters on here, give it a rest and please do something about your obsession with dots...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 (edited) We got rid of Lowe, we've got a billionaire as a new owner, we are not in debt and yet you still remain one of the most negative posters on here, give it a rest and please do something about your obsession with dots...... I disagree he has some valid points . We need a manager as soon as possible thats not negative but positive if we are to be a successful team Surely it is not difficult to come up with a wish list of managers everybody on here as their own list of potential managers Edited 14 July, 2009 by John B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 No what I have heard at all. Strachan is about to go on holiday and wants to get away with his family. He needs a few more weeks and because of this the club will not be rushing into a decision. They are interviewing other candidates, but if they feel that Strachan is their man then they will wait until the end of July. Hence the story today about them not rushing. What they mean here is that they will not rush Strachan and not rule out others. Strachan is aware of this but would like a little bit longer. This is why his odds have change a little over the last few days. Personally I would put my money on Strachan for the main reason that the club know that is what the fans want and know he is the man to keep us on an upward spiral from the last few weeks. We will see though, but this is where my money will stay... for now. Kev Sim Of course this is what Strachan is saying to the club, but he could have his fingers in our pies and seeing how things turn out there. Only time will tell, but I even think that Strachan quite fancies the challenge of Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 My feeling on the managers out there are thus Strachan - fans choice but arguably could walk in to a Prem job and may want to take a risk that would hurt his manager stock Keegan - Big name but out of the loop football wise and would not know the players we need. T Adams - PR disaster and not wanted by the fans S Cotteril - Good with lower budgets but would not give the "bums on seats" appeall or spark the fans imagination. A more realistic option if we had less of a financial backing Wise - Bad press since Newcastle and been there with Saints. Not sure the ****ney wideboy approach would work with our set up Boothroyd - stock has been damaged after a sacking from Watford, one season wonder or talented young manager?? Poyet - Not talked about but could be a real dark horse. Fresh, young, good contacts and big reputation . I like this appointment personally Gross - Bad rep in England but did wonders in Switzerland. Would he take the job?? would we want him?? Hoddle - Out of the game a long time and divides the fans. Contreversy which im not sure the new owners would want Tisdale - small name, carving out a big reputation. Has done wonders with Exeter but this is a MASSIVE step up. Essentially Saints are a wolf in sheeps clothing with our potential but could he realise it??? Conclusions - Based on the current crop being banded about, it probabaly comes down to these three - Boothroyd - Poyet - Tisdale My vote - Poyet Thoughts ??? It surprises me that hardly anyone has mention Alan Curbishley. Good summation tho' & yes Poyet would seem to tick alot of the boxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 My feeling on the managers out there are thus Strachan - fans choice but arguably could walk in to a Prem job and may want to take a risk that would hurt his manager stock Keegan - Big name but out of the loop football wise and would not know the players we need. T Adams - PR disaster and not wanted by the fans S Cotteril - Good with lower budgets but would not give the "bums on seats" appeall or spark the fans imagination. A more realistic option if we had less of a financial backing Wise - Bad press since Newcastle and been there with Saints. Not sure the ****ney wideboy approach would work with our set up Boothroyd - stock has been damaged after a sacking from Watford, one season wonder or talented young manager?? Poyet - Not talked about but could be a real dark horse. Fresh, young, good contacts and big reputation . I like this appointment personally Gross - Bad rep in England but did wonders in Switzerland. Would he take the job?? would we want him?? Hoddle - Out of the game a long time and divides the fans. Contreversy which im not sure the new owners would want Tisdale - small name, carving out a big reputation. Has done wonders with Exeter but this is a MASSIVE step up. Essentially Saints are a wolf in sheeps clothing with our potential but could he realise it??? Conclusions - Based on the current crop being banded about, it probabaly comes down to these three - Boothroyd - Poyet - Tisdale My vote - Poyet Thoughts ??? Anyone who ha followed Stachan's career and read his book would understand that he is not the sort of person who "takes a job" simply because "he hasn't got one". His whole ethos is different. He managed the Best in Scotland, his home nation, does ANYONE really think that he would be interested in managing a "run of the mill" English PL club? It just is not his profile, he made good money in Scotland and from his punditry and other interests. Our League position is actually in our favour. This is not a managerial job, this is a crusade. IMHO his decision is more based on whether he feels we have the opportunity and resources to get back to the PL. He's 52. A 3 year contract with a degree of job security will see him to an early retirement age. He would not have to prove himself here, it would not be an Allardyce half a season, it would be a proper plan that the new board have bought into. All those factors make it more probable than possible. IMHO again about the only things better than us at this time would be Scotland or one of the Top 4 or Villa/Man City. Anything else I would expect would be just a job for him now, and probably not worth losing out valuable time on the golf course for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansums Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 Of course this is what Strachan is saying to the club, but he could have his fingers in our pies and seeing how things turn out there. Only time will tell, but I even think that Strachan quite fancies the challenge of Saints. You speak as if you have 'inside information'. Is this the case or is this all just your opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicko Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 Gordon Strachan is an honest straight talking guy If he was definitely not interested, I think he would have released a statement etc confirming this. The fact he's remaining tight lipped suggests he is not completely out of the picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 Anyone who ha followed Stachan's career and read his book would understand that he is not the sort of person who "takes a job" simply because "he hasn't got one". His whole ethos is different. He managed the Best in Scotland, his home nation, does ANYONE really think that he would be interested in managing a "run of the mill" English PL club? It just is not his profile, he made good money in Scotland and from his punditry and other interests. Our League position is actually in our favour. This is not a managerial job, this is a crusade. IMHO his decision is more based on whether he feels we have the opportunity and resources to get back to the PL. He's 52. A 3 year contract with a degree of job security will see him to an early retirement age. He would not have to prove himself here, it would not be an Allardyce half a season, it would be a proper plan that the new board have bought into. All those factors make it more probable than possible. IMHO again about the only things better than us at this time would be Scotland or one of the Top 4 or Villa/Man City. Anything else I would expect would be just a job for him now, and probably not worth losing out valuable time on the golf course for Phil, agreed - Strachan likes a challenge and Saints are that. The opportunity to resurrect a club and get them in the Prem must be appealing to a person like WGS. Its his opportunity to create a dynasty ala one of the people he looks up to - Ferguson (ok maybe not quite that size but you never know). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 It surprises me that hardly anyone has mention Alan Curbishley. Good summation tho' & yes Poyet would seem to tick alot of the boxes. Yes I did the other day I think he would be ideal I would not mind Curbishley/Coppell/Poyet sooner the better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 I disagree he has some valid points . We need a manager as soon as possible thats not negative but positive if we are to be a successful team Surely it is not difficult to come up with a wish list of managers everybody on here as their own list of potential managers So you disagree with the new owners and how they are handling the situation, didn't take long for posters to revert to type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 Yes I did the other day I would not mind Curbishley/Coppell/Poyet sooner the better I know, I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 (edited) So you disagree with the new owners and how they are handling the situation, didn't take long for posters to revert to type. So you disagree big deal this is the whole thing about a forum a discussion board we can put our points of view across. At least Pinnacle were trying to find a manager during their negotiations Without out rude comments from sanctimonous people like you Edited 14 July, 2009 by John B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 My feeling on the managers out there are thus Strachan - fans choice but arguably could walk in to a Prem job and may want to take a risk that would hurt his manager stock Keegan - Big name but out of the loop football wise and would not know the players we need. T Adams - PR disaster and not wanted by the fans S Cotteril - Good with lower budgets but would not give the "bums on seats" appeall or spark the fans imagination. A more realistic option if we had less of a financial backing Wise - Bad press since Newcastle and been there with Saints. Not sure the ****ney wideboy approach would work with our set up Boothroyd - stock has been damaged after a sacking from Watford, one season wonder or talented young manager?? Poyet - Not talked about but could be a real dark horse. Fresh, young, good contacts and big reputation . I like this appointment personally Gross - Bad rep in England but did wonders in Switzerland. Would he take the job?? would we want him?? Hoddle - Out of the game a long time and divides the fans. Contreversy which im not sure the new owners would want Tisdale - small name, carving out a big reputation. Has done wonders with Exeter but this is a MASSIVE step up. Essentially Saints are a wolf in sheeps clothing with our potential but could he realise it??? Conclusions - Based on the current crop being banded about, it probabaly comes down to these three - Boothroyd - Poyet - Tisdale My vote - Poyet Thoughts ??? Poyet for me as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 14 July, 2009 Share Posted 14 July, 2009 He would not have to prove himself here, it would not be an Allardyce half a season, it would be a proper plan that the new board have bought into. Everyone will have to prove themselves here. Expect early season defeats until new players and new team are sorted out. So we could be more than -10 points after a month. That is when we fans and the new manager, whoever he is and whatever his background, will be truly tested. I'm confident it will all come good eventually. But it will be a case of gradually building confidence and all having belief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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