Alain Perrin Posted 13 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 13 July, 2009 "Our search will be conducted in a systematic and professional manner. We will find the right candidate, who will fulfil the criteria necessary to move the club forward." It doesn't match with an appointment of Tony Adams. Incidentally, neither does it match with the statement they also issued - "we hope to make an appointment by end of next week, maybe sooner". Not that I object. I think we need a manager ASAP - but I don't think a week allows time for them to be overly systematic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyes k8 Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 It would make Celtic so jealous! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 It's those spectacles that would make Shearer a better appointment then Adams. I don't think either should get the job but the fact that Shearer would have a better wow factor than Adams would give him more time to do stuff. Also the name might attract better players than Adams. So IMO Adams is bottom of the list with Shearer just above. My choice? Bill Paisley. The difference is that Shearer has virtually no managerial experience, so whilst he hasn't proved himself yet, nor has he failed yet, whereas Adams has proved himself to be a failure as a manager. Personally I don't care that he's been at Portsmouth .. red and white specs irrelevant. It is the fact that he is no good that is relevant! I thought we'd be hearing definite news early today. Am very surprised that (apparently) the new owner had no one lined up to replace Wotte immediately. Why then did Oldknow sack him immediately? K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 '****', 'Tosspot', 'Nutter', likened to Robert Mugabe, dismissed out-of-hand just because he worked for Pompey (so did Sir Michael et al.) etc. etc.. A 'nutter' just because he's read a book, can string two sentences together and says a bit more than 'the boy done good' in post-match interviews!? He has overcome being called a donkey by vast sections of the crowd at every game he played to become the first name on most people's teamsheet, a great captain for a hugely successful team and key player for England. He has overcome major personal problems emerging with considerable maturity and become a highly-regarded coach. What have you lot achieved? You can't even make a sensible stab at answering the question posed by the thread. Shame on you! Having said that, whilst I would welcome him to the club as a coach (especially important to our defence) I believe there are a lot better - and available - candidates for manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surrey1saint Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 Adams is a crap manager,wouldn't want him, for that reason I am out....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 (edited) '****', 'Tosspot', 'Nutter', likened to Robert Mugabe, dismissed out-of-hand just because he worked for Pompey (so did Sir Michael et al.) etc. etc.. A 'nutter' just because he's read a book, can string two sentences together and says a bit more than 'the boy done good' in post-match interviews!? He has overcome being called a donkey by vast sections of the crowd at every game he played to become the first name on most people's teamsheet, a great captain for a hugely successful team and key player for England. He has overcome major personal problems emerging with considerable maturity and become a highly-regarded coach. What have you lot achieved? You can't even make a sensible stab at answering the question posed by the thread. Shame on you! Having said that, whilst I would welcome him to the club as a coach (especially important to our defence) I believe there are a lot better - and available - candidates for manager. True but i look past his battles against certain things and see what he achieved at his last job. Sadly that was disasterous and his man management seemed out of control.I didnt myself see anything from him apart from taking a succesful side into a slide. Edited 13 July, 2009 by OldNick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabrone Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 The difference is that Shearer has virtually no managerial experience, so whilst he hasn't proved himself yet, nor has he failed yet, whereas Adams has proved himself to be a failure as a manager. Personally I don't care that he's been at Portsmouth .. red and white specs irrelevant. It is the fact that he is no good that is relevant! I thought we'd be hearing definite news early today. Am very surprised that (apparently) the new owner had no one lined up to replace Wotte immediately. Why then did Oldknow sack him immediately? K. Yes, to write off Shearer after 8 odd games in charge of a basket case of a club that always looked like relegation material is ridiculous. He made a mistake taking that job as it was a no win appointment carried out over an inadequate time scale - but to write him off on the evidence of 8 games is nuts. Adams on the other hand has had a decent crack at the whip and has done nothing of substance. The record of these two guys are very different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 True but i look past his battels against certian things and see what he achieved at his last job. Sadly that was disasterous and his man management seemed out of control.I didnt myself see anything from him apart from taking a succesful side into a slide. I agree entirely, but the main point I was making was that the mindless abuse given him is undeserved and pathetic beyond belief. Presumably those posting are bunking-off (or whatever the current expression is) from school given the infantile content of their posts and the standard of their English. I wonder why I bother to respond but I think someone needs to suggest they take a look at themselves and their own sad lives. Adams is someone from whom they could learn a lesson. I don't personally believe he is being considered (despite Talksport pushing him again this morning) but I think the qualities I mentioned could be reasons why a club might consider him. End of rant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 I suggest you save your comments and pop down to Canterbury and show some support to your current "rich" chairman, Gaydamak, as he invested so much money in them and they have now gone bust. Why not buy a shirt? Oh sorry, you can't as your shirt suppliers are in administration and you have no new kit for the forthcoming season.... Schedenfraude and all that... lol Now now, you can still get their whole kit for about £10 at Sportsdirect.com... (I was looking for some cheap stuff for a 5-a-side team). I'm guessing next season they'll be dropping the gold bits, probably too expensive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncoboy Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 You dont need to be abusive about Tony Adams. Who cares if he was at Pompey what we should care about is that his track record is absolutely crap. If he comes in we are headed for League 2. He will be gone in January. It would also be a demonstration that we have learnt nothing. Whoever made such a decision should be held responsible for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 I agree entirely, but the main point I was making was that the mindless abuse given him is undeserved and pathetic beyond belief. Presumably those posting are bunking-off (or whatever the current expression is) from school given the infantile content of their posts and the standard of their English. I wonder why I bother to respond but I think someone needs to suggest they take a look at themselves and their own sad lives. Adams is someone from whom they could learn a lesson. I don't personally believe he is being considered (despite Talksport pushing him again this morning) but I think the qualities I mentioned could be reasons why a club might consider him. End of rant. Fair point Victor, but I cant see him uniting the fanbase, too much baggage for my liking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 Incidentally, neither does it match with the statement they also issued - "we hope to make an appointment by end of next week, maybe sooner". Not that I object. I think we need a manager ASAP - but I don't think a week allows time for them to be overly systematic. I'm sure they already had an idea of what qualities they are looking for in a manager (or head coach and DoF) so the time consuming aspect is finding out who is availalbe, who is currently employment that is suitable and talking to them. It wouldn't surprise me if we do go for someone not on the list, perhaps someone Stuart Baxter or Roger Spry (not necessarily them), but someone with a wide range of coaching experience, dealings with top players but most importantly are tactically sound and understand the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Nelson Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 It's a bit rich really, starting a thread where only one side of the debate can be discussed and then sulking when no one, not one single person, can find a positive in your entire point. Your assumption that those of us who somehow can't find a positive in the possible appointment of Adams are somehow slightly thick, is lost in four of the most ludicrous "points" I've seen in terms of positive attributes. 1) Good leader for Arsenal and England. So good players always make good managers then eh? Glad to have that nugget in print. 2) Lower League experience Did exactly jack sh it at Wycombe Play 53 W12 L20 D21 and unless I'm mistaken got them relegated. Hardly the "experience" I'd be looking for. Funny how people can slag Pearson off when he saved us from relegation but consider Adams to be a possible choice when he took Wycombe down... Odd... 3) English (important to some) Not important to anyone who has a brain. Best man for the job please, regardless of where he was born. 4) Young(ish) Again, not improtant to anyone who has a brain. I'd prefer a manager who's worldly wise and experienced in the world of football. Age, like place of birth, is completely irrelevent... I only want to congratulate you for your eloquence. I was about to buy my season tickets, but the idea of the total managerial failure TA as our new manager has made me hesitate. I'll wait until the new boss is announced. Call me a fair weather sailor if you'd like, but I'm not prepared to take a dinghy out in a hurricane. Too depressing for words. Was the name Tony Adams introduced into the mix by some skate who wanted to wipe the smile off our faces? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Saint Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 Can someone please start a thread saying 'Anti Tony Adams' as anyone who might be glancing at this website from the Liebherr team might actually think the fans are keen on such an appointment.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amigo1 Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 im out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corporate Ho Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 All you need to know about Tony Adams is that every Pompey fan would be delighted if he was appointed as your manager. Nice guy, has overcome some personal demons but not cut out for a job as a football manager. OK as a coach, disaster as a main man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surrey1saint Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 Nice guy, has overcome some personal demons but not cut out for a job as a football manager. OK as a coach, disaster as a main man. This comment is ALL that is needed...nothing else to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 Can someone please start a thread saying 'Anti Tony Adams' as anyone who might be glancing at this website from the Liebherr team might actually think the fans are keen on such an appointment.... There were loads on Thursday/Friday but may be the mods could remove the word "pro" from the title and rename it the Tony Adams thread because I do agree, it does seem to endorse him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 If he was not involved with Pompey I would have thought him OK and so ..? I'm a 50 year fan so don't anyone lecture me on the Saints-Pompey feud ! This crops up anytime ANYONE moves from, or to " the other team." Those who hated Peter Crouch when he arrived were soon silenced when he ended up playing for England. There have been many others in the past; both Ron Davies and Mick Channon played there at the end of their careers. (don't hear much heckling about that). Alan Ball MANAGED both sides, but he was praised by fans as both a player and manager...so too... 'appy 'arry R. No player can predict who they may / not play for in the future. Denis Law played for both Manchester sides, and Sol Campbell for Spurs and Arsenal. If it hadn't been for this unfortunate history, we'd be screaming and chanting his name to get an England captain as manager. He did a good job with Wycombe -was it ? ..but couldn't resist the chance of a Premiership club. I feel sorry for him because IMHO ..HR is a very shrewd person and could already see the iceberg in the darkness whilst the rest of the crew were listening to the Pompey Chimes, and used Spurs as a lifeboat. I don't think TA is a bad choice at all, but my heart still says Strachan, whereas Tony Adams knows what it's like in L1/L2 and so a head choice says he's a good bet!. The ones to scream most will be those who were conned by the bookies into putting their money... on someone else ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 He did a good job with Wycombe -was it ? ..but couldn't resist the chance of a Premiership club. I feel sorry for him because IMHO ..at. QUOTE] Wrong, wrong, wrong. He did a carp job at Wycombe. Got them relegated. Got sacked. In our eyes, the only good work he did was to get the blue few close to relegation, but wasn't given enough time to finish the job. :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin Strain Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 and so ..? I'm a 50 year fan so don't anyone lecture me on the Saints-Pompey feud ! This crops up anytime ANYONE moves from, or to " the other team." Those who hated Peter Crouch when he arrived were soon silenced when he ended up playing for England. There have been many others in the past; both Ron Davies and Mick Channon played there at the end of their careers. (don't hear much heckling about that). Alan Ball MANAGED both sides, but he was praised by fans as both a player and manager...so too... 'appy 'arry R. No player can predict who they may / not play for in the future. Denis Law played for both Manchester sides, and Sol Campbell for Spurs and Arsenal. If it hadn't been for this unfortunate history, we'd be screaming and chanting his name to get an England captain as manager. He did a good job with Wycombe -was it ? ..but couldn't resist the chance of a Premiership club. I feel sorry for him because IMHO ..HR is a very shrewd person and could already see the iceberg in the darkness whilst the rest of the crew were listening to the Pompey Chimes, and used Spurs as a lifeboat. I don't think TA is a bad choice at all, but my heart still says Strachan, whereas Tony Adams knows what it's like in L1/L2 and so a head choice says he's a good bet!. The ones to scream most will be those who were conned by the bookies into putting their money... on someone else ! Please tell me you're joking? When you say 'good job at Wycombe'....what do you mean by that? 12 wins in 53 games. I don't have a hang up about someone connected to Pompey taking the job if they're good enough. Unfortunately, you can't say that his record even remotely suggests he's good enough. he lost the plot at Pompey, shown by his ramblings on the telly. His record at Wycombe was poor, culminating in relegation. He's done nothing else, apart from humiliate himself by claiming Wim Jansen was going to appoint him at Celtic. He's off his rocker. If he had demonstrated some previous ability in management, and only Pompey was just a blip on his record, then that's fine. He hasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Nelson Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 and so ..? I'm a 50 year fan so don't anyone lecture me on the Saints-Pompey feud ! This crops up anytime ANYONE moves from, or to " the other team." Those who hated Peter Crouch when he arrived were soon silenced when he ended up playing for England. There have been many others in the past; both Ron Davies and Mick Channon played there at the end of their careers. (don't hear much heckling about that). Alan Ball MANAGED both sides, but he was praised by fans as both a player and manager...so too... 'appy 'arry R. No player can predict who they may / not play for in the future. Denis Law played for both Manchester sides, and Sol Campbell for Spurs and Arsenal. If it hadn't been for this unfortunate history, we'd be screaming and chanting his name to get an England captain as manager. He did a good job with Wycombe -was it ? ..but couldn't resist the chance of a Premiership club. I feel sorry for him because IMHO ..HR is a very shrewd person and could already see the iceberg in the darkness whilst the rest of the crew were listening to the Pompey Chimes, and used Spurs as a lifeboat. I don't think TA is a bad choice at all, but my heart still says Strachan, whereas Tony Adams knows what it's like in L1/L2 and so a head choice says he's a good bet!. The ones to scream most will be those who were conned by the bookies into putting their money... on someone else ! I'm afraid you're wrong. TA has been a failure as a manager wherever he has been. Since being sacked at Pompey he also seems to have lost a bit of grip on reality. I don't think this is the time for him to manage anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 Fair point Victor, but I cant see him uniting the fanbase, too much baggage for my liking He would unite the majority of the fanbase - but for all the wrong reasons. IMO he just isn't upto the job - all the personal stuff is irrelevent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 so, no positives regarding Adams then..? next Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulSaint Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 Are the club mooting his name around on purpose (no intention of hiring him) so that we arent too dissapointed when they announce a "mid range" name instead of a Strachan or Keegan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 I expect the reason he is being linked with all these jobs such as us and Celtic is because his agent is talking to the press and trying to get his name out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 Are the club mooting his name around on purpose (no intention of hiring him) so that we arent too dissapointed when they announce a "mid range" name instead of a Strachan or Keegan? I don't think the club are mooting anybody's name. It's all press/fan/punter and bookie speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 . He did a good job with Wycombe -was it ? ..but couldn't resist the chance of a Premiership club. I don't think TA is a bad choice at all, but my heart still says Strachan, whereas Tony Adams knows what it's like in L1/L2 and so a head choice says he's a good bet!. The ones to scream most will be those who were conned by the bookies into putting their money... on someone else ! You seem to be making out that Pompey plucked him away from a Wycombe Wanderers board and fanbase desperate to keep him. There was a good couple of years between his abominal record at Wycombe - 12 wins in a season and a bit and relegation - and his appointment by HR. He nurdled around in Holland or Belgium or somewhere for a while post-Wycombe he was in such high demand. I'm getting annoyed with people saying it is his Pompey connections that are the problem. It isn't. Its the fact he is utter rubbish and proven to be incapable at this level and at any level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torsaint Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 And how many STs would TA sell. None in my view. Still remember him winning a dodgy penalty against us at the old Arse nal ground in the 80s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Perrin Posted 13 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 13 July, 2009 And how many STs would TA sell. None in my view. Just to perpetuate a cult of misinterpretation..... Of course he wouldn't sell any, he's not on the shortlist to work in the ticket office.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 I couldn't give a rats arse if he managed pompey or not, he's just a really really bad football manager. You just have to see his interviews to know he doesn't know what the hell he is doing, he talks complete nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosham Scientist Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 ... your shirt suppliers are in administration and you have no new kit for the forthcoming season.... Blimey DW you know more about Pompey than we do! AIEEEEEE!!!! No owner no team and no shirts either! We're doomed! DOOMED! Anyway, Tony Adams, nice bloke, good coach, not manager material. I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 The appointment would serve only one set of people - Pompey supporters, who would get a nice little early season free laugh at our expense. The guy is a proven looser at management - nuff said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 There really isn't anything positive to say about the prospect of Adams becoming Saints manager. I just hope the new owners steer well clear of him. He's been a failure wherever he's been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 I don't think here is any real chance of Adams being Saints manager, it's more likley his name was fed to the media by the club to lower expectations - with all the talk of Strachan, Coppell etc. By threatening us with donkey Adams they know we will be over the moon when Cotterill is wheeled out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 All you need to know about Tony Adams is that every Pompey fan would be delighted if he was appointed as your manager. Nice guy, has overcome some personal demons but not cut out for a job as a football manager. OK as a coach, disaster as a main man. And there you have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Nelson Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 Not that I think TA is reading this forum, but there is no need, to be nasty about him. There is also no need to be sorry for him to the point of looking forward to him becoming manager. He need to rebuild his career with a decent coaching job somewhere and consider whether management is really for him. In that endeavour I wish him well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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