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Alain Perrin

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Thedelldays

Thedelldays

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I have just worked it out..

 

The original poster is Andy Oldknow......he is just putting the 'feelers' out there before announcing TA as manager tomorrow at 2pm

 

OH NOES!!!!11

Alain Perrin

Alain Perrin

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Yeah particularly those that have a pop at others when itheir crusade has nothing to do with them.

 

Then of course you've got those who happily throw about general abuse at their fellow supporters.

 

Then of course you've got those who start threads telling you what you can and can't post, and then get all upset because their restrictions somewhat stifle the debate.

 

go and have a look in the mirror fella.

 

Sorry I merely asked a question and wanted to keep the sarcy irrelevancies to other threads. But of course you're right I did stifle debate - it's not as if there isn't any threads against Tony Adams.....

 

Thanks for posting a positive contribution though.

 

I asked what makes Tony Adams a viable choice? What I didn't want was a stream - he's ****, he's a pompey **** - that kind of thing. A response with pro's AND con's is fine - just didn't want all the later (I should have been clearer about that - my bad).

 

I don't want him as a manager. I think he'd be a bad choice.... but there must be reasons why he's well thought of. Just interested in what people thought, but hey ho.

 

Personally I think he's not dissimilar to Shearer. Great player (more so Shearer), great captain (more so Adams), limited experience (both), reputation above his station (both).

 

I'd be interested if any of the anti-Adams would welcome Shearer because, other than Saints/Pompey legacy, I can't see a lot of difference.

Alain Perrin

Alain Perrin

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It's a bit rich really, starting a thread where only one side of the debate can be discussed and then sulking when no one, not one single person, can find a positive in your entire point.

 

Your assumption that those of us who somehow can't find a positive in the possible appointment of Adams are somehow slightly thick, is lost in four of the most ludicrous "points" I've seen in terms of positive attributes.

 

1) Good leader for Arsenal and England.

So good players always make good managers then eh? Glad to have that nugget in print.

 

2) Lower League experience

Did exactly jack sh it at Wycombe Play 53 W12 L20 D21 and unless I'm mistaken got them relegated. Hardly the "experience" I'd be looking for. Funny how people can slag Pearson off when he saved us from relegation but consider Adams to be a possible choice when he took Wycombe down... Odd...

 

3) English (important to some)

Not important to anyone who has a brain. Best man for the job please, regardless of where he was born.

 

4) Young(ish)

Again, not improtant to anyone who has a brain. I'd prefer a manager who's worldly wise and experienced in the world of football. Age, like place of birth, is completely irrelevent...

 

I agree with all of your responses to 1-4.

 

Please understand I wasn't calling people ****s for not being able to think of positives, that is their right. I was asking what makes people (specifically the club) consider him.

 

If he's such an unmitigated disaster what makes him make the shortlist (if indeed he has)? TBH - I struggle to think of much bar his reputation as a player.

eelpie

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I have just worked it out..

 

The original poster is Andy Oldknow......he is just putting the 'feelers' out there before announcing TA as manager tomorrow at 2pm

 

OH NOES!!!!11

 

No, he's Alain Perrin - ex Pompey manager.

beatlesaint

beatlesaint

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Isn't it true he only got the Pompey job cos 'arry told them he would be good....and they didnt have a clue who to go for, especially given it was well known that the money had run out....hence 'arry doing a runner to Spurs.

 

So he probably doesnt interview very well anyhow.

wightman35

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I am POSITIVE he would be no good for Southampton Football Club.

I am POSITIVE he will not be the next manager of Southampton Football Club.

 

Well, thar's a relief.:smt073

CB Fry

CB Fry

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Just interested in what people thought, but hey ho.

 

 

I think people tend to think that starting a thread called "Pro Tony Adams" and then telling people what they can and can't think on said thread is quite antagonistic, especially as any fool reading this forum over the last few days could see that "people thought" they do not want Tony Adams.

 

No one is interested in examining why he might be on the shortlist.

 

Other than that, great thread.

 

Hey ho.

Daren W

Daren W

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I agree with all of your responses to 1-4.

 

Please understand I wasn't calling people ****s for not being able to think of positives, that is their right. I was asking what makes people (specifically the club) consider him.

 

If he's such an unmitigated disaster what makes him make the shortlist (if indeed he has)? TBH - I struggle to think of much bar his reputation as a player.

 

To be fair you did make a very good point and that is why would we consider Shearer when his record and Adams' are very, very similar.

 

It should teach us not to use those Red & White spectacles so often....

qwertySFC

qwertySFC

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I agree with all of your responses to 1-4.

 

Please understand I wasn't calling people ****s for not being able to think of positives, that is their right. I was asking what makes people (specifically the club) consider him.

If he's such an unmitigated disaster what makes him make the shortlist (if indeed he has)? TBH - I struggle to think of much bar his reputation as a player.

 

Where is this Bull**** coming from , the CLUB have not said anything about him..its in your head

beatlesaint

beatlesaint

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Ok lets have some reality here.....

 

put yourself in ML's shoes for a minute -

 

you have a personal wealth of 3 billion euros (i love telling everyone that :) )

you have a hugely successful business

 

have you made that much money and got a business that makes millions by

 

a - appointing the best man for whatever vacancy you are advertising

b - appoint someone whose CV shows not one iota of success

 

now lets think carefully.........................

sussexsaint

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Just possibly is the work of a genius businessman. Release rumour that some tosspot is going to be appointed and the whomever else you choose will appear to be a masterstroke.

oldskoolsi

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To be fair you did make a very good point and that is why would we consider Shearer when his record and Adams' are very, very similar.

 

It should teach us not to use those Red & White spectacles so often....

It's those spectacles that would make Shearer a better appointment then Adams. I don't think either should get the job but the fact that Shearer would have a better wow factor than Adams would give him more time to do stuff. Also the name might attract better players than Adams. So IMO Adams is bottom of the list with Shearer just above. My choice? Bill Paisley.

oldskoolsi

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It's those spectacles that would make Shearer a better appointment then Adams. I don't think either should get the job but the fact that Shearer would have a better wow factor than Adams would give him more time to do stuff. Also the name might attract better players than Adams. So IMO Adams is bottom of the list with Shearer just above. My choice? Bill Paisley.
Sh!t Pimms is seriously taking affect. Bob Paisley
Graffito

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More ****s on this forum than I thought.

 

1) Good leader for Arsenal and England.

2) Lower League experience

3) English (important to some)

4) Young(ish)

 

AP you've damned him with faint praise. I think you've answered your own question.

Alain Perrin

Alain Perrin

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AP you've damned him with faint praise. I think you've answered your own question.

 

I already knew my answer.

 

I was asking what makes him a candidate because, apparently for no reason, press reports are /were linking him with Saints.

Graffito

Graffito

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I already knew my answer.

 

I was asking what makes him a candidate because, apparently for no reason, press reports are /were linking him with Saints.

 

Fair enough. Beats me why he's being linked as well.

mack rill

mack rill

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Something positive about Donkey Adams?

 

Yeah, right!

 

Hes the Booooooookies favorite to take the helm on HM saints, what could be more positive(for us the blue few) than that.

Cant Waite for the statue;)

Greenridge

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Hes the Booooooookies favorite to take the helm on HM saints, what could be more positive(for us the blue few) than that.

Cant Waite for the statue;)

 

How's your take-over coming along?

qwertySFC

qwertySFC

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I already knew my answer.

 

I was asking what makes him a candidate because, apparently for no reason, press reports are /were linking him with Saints.

 

99 times out of a 100 they are talking out of their arses though ,

RonManager

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This thread could well serve a purpose.

 

If, by any chance, Oldknow et al do actually look here to get an idea of which way the wind is blowing, then they will spot this thread straight away as it contains TA's name in the title. A quick look at the contents of this thread will tell them all they want to know.

 

To be honest, I thought that was the idea behind this thread when I first saw it appear. I thought AP was being cunning and fully expecting the response that he got.

opthomps

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He comes across well, but you cant have him as a manager, he has a poor record, is linked to sk**s and is someone who has a very chequered personal past. Coach maybe, Manager for us no thanks, and out of all the available managers its clear he doesnt offer the best option

ghq

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I don't know much about Adams as a manager, obviously nothing like the contributors on here. I thought I might glean some insight into his attributes. It would appear he has none.

Is it my imagination, or has the general level of testosterone markedly increased since the intervention of a Swiss billionaire in this club's fortunes?

lordswoodsaints

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He's got nothing to offer that we havnt already seen.

He would be a disaster and if the Swiss are looking long term then he's not your man,he would fall badly on his arse and they would be forced to sack him.......not to mention his Pompey connection which will alienate him from the start.

Daren W

Daren W

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Hes the Booooooookies favorite to take the helm on HM saints, what could be more positive(for us the blue few) than that.

Cant Waite for the statue;)

 

I suggest you save your comments and pop down to Canterbury and show some support to your current "rich" chairman, Gaydamak, as he invested so much money in them and they have now gone bust.

 

Why not buy a shirt? Oh sorry, you can't as your shirt suppliers are in administration and you have no new kit for the forthcoming season....

 

Schedenfraude and all that... lol

Doctoroncall

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Considering the statements from ML and the current management team:

 

"..We will assemble a strong management team at every level."

 

 

"Our decision is part of a wider strategic plan being implemented to improve all aspects of the club's operations, both on and off the field.

 

"In keeping with this plan we can confirm that the search for a new manager has already begun.

 

"Our search will be conducted in a systematic and professional manner. We will find the right candidate, who will fulfil the criteria necessary to move the club forward."

 

 

It doesn't match with an appointment of Tony Adams.

Alain Perrin

Alain Perrin

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This thread could well serve a purpose.

 

If, by any chance, Oldknow et al do actually look here to get an idea of which way the wind is blowing, then they will spot this thread straight away as it contains TA's name in the title. A quick look at the contents of this thread will tell them all they want to know.

 

To be honest, I thought that was the idea behind this thread when I first saw it appear. I thought AP was being cunning and fully expecting the response that he got.

 

I don't know.... I think the jury's still out. I think this thread shows the fans are very divided in their opinions :)

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