Daren W Posted 12 July, 2009 Share Posted 12 July, 2009 there are a couple of threads about pearson and a new poll to add pearson to the "candidates"... anyway I would not be displeased if he came back..Just I would be happier if he did not.. I just dont rate him that much...does that mean I have to have an agenda..? there are better options out there than him.. Indeeed there are... But I wasn't talking about you though... There are people out there for whom Pearson will always be a "Crouch" appointment and therefore not rated.... Sad really.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 12 July, 2009 Share Posted 12 July, 2009 Indeeed there are... But I wasn't talking about you though... There are people out there for whom Pearson will always be a "Crouch" appointment and therefore not rated.... Sad really.. I think it will take a wee while yet before people stop throwing in lowe/crouch/wilde or whatever into the mix.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daren W Posted 12 July, 2009 Share Posted 12 July, 2009 I think it will take a wee while yet before people stop throwing in lowe/crouch/wilde or whatever into the mix.... But it is soooo annoying, both sides. We've got ourselves what appears to be a fantastic chairman and appear to have been incredibly lucky but we still have people who just can't let it go.... Please people, just let it go and enjoy the moment... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 12 July, 2009 Share Posted 12 July, 2009 We're a pretty unambitious bunch at times. Calling for Strachan, Keagan, Shearer, Goss etc for manager not ambitious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Perrin Posted 12 July, 2009 Share Posted 12 July, 2009 I think the fighting factions are softening though. In fact, it looks to me that Um Pahars and Nineteen Canteen will soon be getting jiggy in a hot tub..... I will happily spa with you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 12 July, 2009 Share Posted 12 July, 2009 Goss etc for manager not ambitious? Depends whether it's Matt, Luke or Jeremy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 12 July, 2009 Share Posted 12 July, 2009 He was loyal and has the qualities to be great manager. If Mr Liebherr has a long term plan then NP ticks all the boxes to be like a Curbishley for Charlton or a Burley for Ipswich. We need a manager who's on the up, not a manager that's had his day. Pearson is a manager that could be a long term appointment. Don't disagree Stanley but I cannot see that he will leave a team he has just got promoted in order to do the job all over again. It is hardly a forward looking career move - but I don't mind being wrong ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 12 July, 2009 Share Posted 12 July, 2009 But it is soooo annoying, both sides. We've got ourselves what appears to be a fantastic chairman and appear to have been incredibly lucky but we still have people who just can't let it go.... Please people, just let it go and enjoy the moment... + 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoobysaint Posted 12 July, 2009 Share Posted 12 July, 2009 Why does everybody keep looking back at past managers. Its never works getting back with ex-girlfriends. Simply move on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 http://www.foxestalk.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=60814&st=20 Been a topic on their since Pinnacle. One post that made me laugh: Southampton can **** off leave our Nigel P alone I hope they go under and reform at another level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 You're quite right that I am not aware of the full nature of your mental health problems, not that I ever claimed to either, I just feel that your personal issues shouldn't really be a reason for ridicule etc on this forum. And as soon as I read the thread I posted as I felt it verged on bullying and given your public admission of your mental problems I felt it was unjustified and somewhat cruel. I find it hard to see why you're knocking me for sticking up for you regarding your problems, when you and others did exactly the same thing. Barking was totally unintentional and I would never intentionally use a play on words in a cheap attack on your personal condition. I will happily spa with you, wind you up and think you're an attention seeking, multiple identitied, rude PM'ing, liar, but I wouldn't use your mental health problems as a stick to beat you with. OK Um Pahars you win, but before I leave this particular argument let me say the following: You are guilty of a very cheap and ongoing and thinly veiled attack and a deeply prejudice one at that. How many more times can you draw attention to my condition another 3 times I see in your last post above. Would you do the same if I wore a turban, perhaps was a muslim, or had coloured skin, or was physically or mentally handicapped or both? Still it kind of fits your profile and I have read with interest how you interact with even your alleged 'buddies' or moreover the way they tolerate you. You know nothing about me but latched on to an admission I made and was basically forced to make because of an absolute confidence I thought i had in someone and who proved to be as morally bankrupt as you, regradless of how little they let be known. For some that was all they needed and yet I am still here. So yes I had my fingers burnt and yes I feel let down but I won't shy away from making an opinion or succumb to the taunts from friendless individuals like yourself. I have learned a lot from my experiences Um and just from your musings all I feel for you is pity and remember if you keep putting 18amps through a 13 amp fuse eventually the fuse will blow, it didn't mean the fuse was weak in the first place, far from it allegedly as I can't remember. There is a good thread on the Arts forum about sad songs. I recommend my two selections. If I may leave you with a quote, tonight I feel like some Blake, so just for you Um: Mock on, Mock on: tis all in vain! You throw the sand against the wind And the wind blows it back again.. I am not going to mention this again because it is what it is and nothing I can do about it. I am happy to call a truce if you are and if not I hope you can stop your troubling fascination with my health. Rubbish my opinions by all means but unlike our previous run in unlike me you are not operating under a readily justifiable misunderstanding so please be careful how you carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 Look lads, with all due respect, if Pearson was to jump ship, Southampton would be the last place he would go. Not only are you starting with -10 but the fact that it was the same club that chucked him out [different regime, I know]. But it's like going back to your ex-girlfriend who treated you like crap and kicked you out. Why would you do that for? Milan & Pearson bust-up? I don't believe a word of that. Lazy journalism if you ask me. Err, because the previous Chairman who sacked him for purely egotistic purposes, has himself been sacked and replaced by a billionaire owner? :cool: i don't think perarson is messiah. He is a martyr - a casualty of Lowe's return and that is why people want to see him back. Not because of his track record at SMS (very ordinary) or his success at Leicester (Milan's millions) but because its one in the eye for old Rupert. At the end of the day only Pearson and Lowe know what happened around his departure but I suspect that Pearson was not impressed by the required youth policy. However, even Crouch said that would have been his policy too had he stayed in charge so I'm not convinced that his departure was not an inevitability. Sorry, that's rubbish: http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/untoldstories/4350665.What_Saints_managers_were_paid/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 (edited) OK Um Pahars you win, but before I leave this particular argument let me say the following: You are guilty of a very cheap and ongoing and thinly veiled attack and a deeply prejudice one at that. How many more times can you draw attention to my condition another 3 times I see in your last post above. Would you do the same if I wore a turban, perhaps was a muslim, or had coloured skin, or was physically or mentally handicapped or both? Still it kind of fits your profile and I have read with interest how you interact with even your alleged 'buddies' or moreover the way they tolerate you. You obviously know nothing about me then and seem to be judging me by your own low standards. As I said on the thread where people were mocking/bullying you, I simply just don't think it's right when start getting that personal and use an issue that you have a real life problem with in order to score cheap points. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt with regards some of the comments you have made above, as anyone who really does know me (and there are many on here) would tell you you are very wide of the mark. You know nothing about me but latched on to an admission I made and was basically forced to make because of an absolute confidence I thought i had in someone and who proved to be as morally bankrupt as you, regradless of how little they let be known. For some that was all they needed and yet I am still here. And I have admitted that I know little about you (turn the tables as you obviously know nothing about me if the tirades in this post are anything to go by). But that is a world away from being accused of latching on to something. You were open and honest about your mental health issues and so I wasn't revealing anything and was only responding to some rather poor efforts by a minority to persecute you. If you don't need support , then fine, but please don't jump from well intended support to the tirades you have on here. I'll cut you some slack now we know more about you, but there is a line. So yes I had my fingers burnt and yes I feel let down but I won't shy away from making an opinion or succumb to the taunts from friendless individuals like yourself. I have learned a lot from my experiences Um and just from your musings all I feel for you is pity and remember if you keep putting 18amps through a 13 amp fuse eventually the fuse will blow, it didn't mean the fuse was weak in the first place, far from it allegedly as I can't remember... And as I have previously summarsed, I'm afraid the idea of taunts can only be in your own head, as my comments were always well intended. I don't know the exact details of your mental illness, but my only advice would be to stop thinking everyone is out to get you and therefore you always have to be on the attack. Look for the good in people and you'll find it. There is a good thread on the Arts forum about sad songs. I recommend my two selections. If I may leave you with a quote, tonight I feel like some Blake, so just for you Um: Mock on, Mock on: tis all in vain! You throw the sand against the wind And the wind blows it back again.. I never go in for sad songs as think they just perpetuate the moment, I much prefer uplifting and inspiratioanl songs/poems/thoughts to try and lift the gloom. I am not going to mention this again because it is what it is and nothing I can do about it. I am happy to call a truce if you are and if not I hope you can stop your troubling fascination with my health. Rubbish my opinions by all means but unlike our previous run in unlike me you are not operating under a readily justifiable misunderstanding so please be careful how you carry on. I am always more than happy to rubbish your multiple identitied, trolling, antagonistic, poor posts along with your abusive and offensive PM's and pick you up for spreading rubbish and fabrications, so please spare me the lectures on where and how to post, not least as you certainly don't practice what you preach. I have never used your mental problems in order to score points, in fact I've tried to steer people away from that area, but that doesn't mean that I don't think your posts and PM's under a raft of different user names are any the less sad. Edited 13 July, 2009 by um pahars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wopper Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 Whats these "personal issues" that Nineteen Canteen used to justify his trolling? Probably dropped on his head as a baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daren W Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 You obviously know nothing about me then and seem to be judging me by your own low standards. As I said on the thread where people were mocking/bullying you, I simply just don't think it's right when start getting that personal and use an issue that you have a real life problem with in order to score cheap points. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt with regards some of the comments you have made above, as anyone who really does know me (and there are many on here) would tell you you are very wide of the mark. And I have admitted that I know little about you (turn the tables as you obviously know nothing about me if the tirades in this post are anything to go by). But that is a world away from being accused of latching on to something. You were open and honest about your mental health issues and so I wasn't revealing anything and was only responding to some rather poor efforts by a minority to persecute you. If you don't need support , then fine, but please don't jump from well intended support to the tirades you have on here. I'll cut you some slack now we know more about you, but there is a line. And as I have previously summarsed, I'm afraid the idea of taunts can only be in your own head, as my comments were always well intended. I don't know the exact details of your mental illness, but my only advice would be to stop thinking everyone is out to get you and therefore you always have to be on the attack. Look for the good in people and you'll find it. I never go in for sad songs as think they just perpetuate the moment, I much prefer uplifting and inspiratioanl songs/poems/thoughts to try and lift the gloom. I am always more than happy to rubbish your multiple identitied, trolling, antagonistic, poor posts along with your abusive and offensive PM's and pick you up for spreading rubbish and fabrications, so please spare me the lectures on where and how to post, not least as you certainly don't practice what you preach. I have never used your mental problems in order to score points, in fact I've tried to steer people away from that area, but that doesn't mean that I don't think your posts and PM's under a raft of different user names are any the less sad. Steve, I didn't know 19C had any "mental Health issues" (though I should have guessed.) Shame on you for being so mean... Mental Health isssues are a very real and very serious problem.... I would try and raise money for mental health trusts etc but some people on here wouldn't appreciate me "Rattling tins" so I won't bother... Quite how 19c can get on his high horse about his "illness" and yet went on to mock me about about my aim to raise money for cancer research is beyond me. Schedenfraude springs to mind... Not so funny when it's something personal to you is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 You would have to be mental to back Lowe the way 19C has done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 I don't care what 19 has. Benthelegend could have been mentally ill and lls had dyslexia but it didn't make me stop wishing they would cease posting and disappear. Your posts on here are irritating and pointless. I do not care if you are mentally ill though it explains a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 Can't the admins make those two get a room instead of flirting in that off-topic discussion on the main board? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 One short post and you feel the need to repeat yourself 3 times on something you know little about. I think your stick is out - as usual Um Pahars. Others before you tried to get that thread closed and I asked after 4 posts but it wasn't until the thread reached posts numbered in the 60's. Don't worry Um your 'concern' is noted. I assume barking was 'no pun intended' You'll notice that. Um professes not to demeaning but if you scratch a little beneath the surface you'll see the true intentions coming out. Look how he repeats and puts emphasis the subject of mental health... I think he is poo-pooing you, 19C. I also think he is trying to indirectly allude to your problems to everyone so that people will think of you as less credible. Naughty Um. Naughty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 Indeeed there are... But I wasn't talking about you though... There are people out there for whom Pearson will always be a "Crouch" appointment and therefore not rated.... Sad really.. That's the crux of it. It all comes back to the divisions caused by Lowe. Hopefully we'll all get over the hangover of the last few years soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scummer Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 You'll notice that. Um professes not to demeaning but if you scratch a little beneath the surface you'll see the true intentions coming out. Look how he repeats and puts emphasis the subject of mental health... I think he is poo-pooing you, 19C. I also think he is trying to indirectly allude to your problems to everyone so that people will think of you as less credible. Naughty Um. Naughty! He says, while repeating 'mental health' and 'problems' twice himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 I don't care what 19 has. Benthelegend could have been mentally ill and lls had dyslexia but it didn't make me stop wishing they would cease posting and disappear. Your posts on here are irritating and pointless. I do not care if you are mentally ill though it explains a lotHypo, show a bit of respect , you are above the cheap digs. The man has come out and tried to face up to a personal problem.It accounts for some of his outbursts, in the main he is a damned good poster and when he can keep a lid on it is difficult to out debate.As for , as he was understanding of RL, he must have mental health issues and then so must I and many others on here. Give him a break Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry the Badger Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 I've got mental health problems and I still think Lowe is a **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 I've got mental health problems and I still think Lowe is a ****lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 There appears that a lot of us posters are subject of care in the community... I was only saying to the nurse the other day on a day visit to our old ward..There are a lot of those TSW posters not taking their medicine....ESPECIALLY that nickh.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Horne Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 There appears that a lot of us posters are subject of care in the community... I was only saying to the nurse the other day on a day visit to our old ward..There are a lot of those TSW posters not taking their medicine....ESPECIALLY that nickh.... To be fair, most Saints fans have to be fairly mad/crazy/insane (take your pick) to support this club after everything that's happened. Onwards and upwards though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 There appears that a lot of us posters are subject of care in the community... I was only saying to the nurse the other day on a day visit to our old ward..There are a lot of those TSW posters not taking their medicine....ESPECIALLY that nickh.... I worry that you are overdosing on the delusional drugs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 To be fair, most Saints fans have to be fairly mad/crazy/insane (take your pick) to support this club after everything that's happened. Onwards and upwards though... LET THE REAL MADNESS COMMENCE:rolleyes:....... New management team..some new players...Lots of wins throughout the season....Play offs at least followed by Wembley and promotion:smt007 etc etc......Now that is what it is all about.....Its good to be mad and a Saints nutter.:smt007..One and all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 Reading his website i can see he's not all the ticket. "Mystery and real power dwells in nature - in mountains, seas, rivers, plants, herbs, animals, stones and pebbles. To the western world, these are inanimate objects. To the Native American Indian they are entwined in the web of the universe, pulsating with life and potent with medicine." His 'Native American Indian Series 1' is pretty good stuff though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Bognor Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 (edited) You are guilty of a very cheap and ongoing and thinly veiled attack Like you've never been guilty of that... and a deeply prejudice one at that. A prejudice is an implicitly held belief, often about a group of people.... so you've never had an implicitly held belief about a certain group of people, whether that be based on age, class or what car they drive? How many more times can you draw attention to my condition another 3 times I see in your last post above. Would you do the same if I wore a turban, perhaps was a muslim, or had coloured skin, or was physically or mentally handicapped or both? or would he make a cheap jibe about a dying child? You're not whiter than white, so spare us the sanctimonious BS. IF (and that's a big IF) you've had problems, and you've learned a lot, then why the personal attacks on forum posters? Surely you have more important things to be focusing on? Life's too short (just ask the parents of that now deceased child) Edited 13 July, 2009 by Johnny Bognor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 Hypo, show a bit of respect , you are above the cheap digs. The man has come out and tried to face up to a personal problem.It accounts for some of his outbursts, in the main he is a damned good poster and when he can keep a lid on it is difficult to out debate.As for , as he was understanding of RL, he must have mental health issues and then so must I and many others on here. Give him a break Erm I have never once read any of these posts where he talks about his mental illness. The first I heard of it was when Um spoke about it last night. I am frankly amazed that you describe him as a dammed good poster. To my mind he is the worst poster on here, continually making snide comments at others, being downright insulting to darren about the cancer issues, sending offensive PMs, being rude and insulting, making veiled insults towards MLT and more obvious insults to the likes of Pearson and others and generally rubbing people up the wrong way by his overly aggressive and hugely negative posting style. I like you nick even though I disagree with you on a whole host of issues because generally you are able to debate things in a sensible manner without being personally insulting. 19C or whatever he decides to call himself is unable to do this and so mental illness or not, I think it would be better for himself and for most posters on here if he stopped posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 (edited) Erm I have never once read any of these posts where he talks about his mental illness. The first I heard of it was when Um spoke about it last night. I am frankly amazed that you describe him as a dammed good poster. To my mind he is the worst poster on here, continually making snide comments at others, being downright insulting to darren about the cancer issues, sending offensive PMs, being rude and insulting, making veiled insults towards MLT and more obvious insults to the likes of Pearson and others and generally rubbing people up the wrong way by his overly aggressive and hugely negative posting style. I like you nick even though I disagree with you on a whole host of issues because generally you are able to debate things in a sensible manner without being personally insulting. 19C or whatever he decides to call himself is unable to do this and so mental illness or not, I think it would be better for himself and for most posters on here if he stopped posting. Hypo thats fine, I find him a good poster as he does put over some good points.He does let himself down, but has tried to be less aggressive. Anyway thanks for your reply Edited 13 July, 2009 by OldNick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scummer Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 Erm I have never once read any of these posts where he talks about his mental illness. The first I heard of it was when Um spoke about it last night. I am frankly amazed that you describe him as a dammed good poster. To my mind he is the worst poster on here, continually making snide comments at others, being downright insulting to darren about the cancer issues, sending offensive PMs, being rude and insulting, making veiled insults towards MLT and more obvious insults to the likes of Pearson and others and generally rubbing people up the wrong way by his overly aggressive and hugely negative posting style. I like you nick even though I disagree with you on a whole host of issues because generally you are able to debate things in a sensible manner without being personally insulting. 19C or whatever he decides to call himself is unable to do this and so mental illness or not, I think it would be better for himself and for most posters on here if he stopped posting. =D>=D>=D>=D>=D>=D> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 Perhaps if we all backed off a bit a fresh start might be possible. After all we're about to enjoy the most exciting, and hopefully fan-friendly, era at the club for over a decade. It'd be nice if that could translate to SWF too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 'The former Chelsea striker is believed to have had initial talks with representatives of new Swiss owner Markus Liebherr....' (phone rings) JFH: Can I speak with Markus Heibherr MH: Speaking JFH: It's Jimmy-Floyd here, can I apply for the position of manager? MH: No, go away Is how I imagine initial talks might have gone!! Genuine LOL! I would hope "discussions" did take that path!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 Perhaps if we all backed off a bit a fresh start might be possible. After all we're about to enjoy the most exciting, and hopefully fan-friendly, era at the club for over a decade. It'd be nice if that could translate to SWF too. good post has it seems their is a witch hunt against 19c. has their is more than one poster with multiple identitied name changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 what a load of horse **** - get over yourselves, no one wants to read this crap. What about np? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daren W Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 You'll notice that. Um professes not to demeaning but if you scratch a little beneath the surface you'll see the true intentions coming out. Look how he repeats and puts emphasis the subject of mental health... I think he is poo-pooing you, 19C. I also think he is trying to indirectly allude to your problems to everyone so that people will think of you as less credible. Naughty Um. Naughty! Sorry CL, but I find it very hard to find any sympathy, if Um is doing what you claim he is, as Sundance/19C/etc did exactly that to me and tried his level best to discredit my opinion and besmirch my credibility by portraying me as some grief stricken weirdo who wanted to deliberately undermine the club with my own cancer driven agenda. That wasn't the case but that didn't stop him posting crap on other message boards, slagging me off and discrediting me. Now all of a sudden he's the "victim" and we're all supposed to feel sorry for him? Not a chance. If has genuine issues then that's sad, mental illness is a terrible curse but perhaps he'd remember ridiculing me as a "Tin rattler" not so long ago and perhaps now think twice when it's HIS illness that's the subject of ridicule/disbelief Quite frankly i wouldn't believe a word that comes out of this posters mouth, it's as if as soon as he posts something that angers people he plays the "Feel sorry for me card" or if he gets grief then he'll play the "Someone I know suffers from this (name the affliction) card" Either way I find it highly ironic that he's now playing the victim. That said I do have him on ignore and only found out via Um, and on ignore he will stay so Ponty's point is noted..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 good post has it seems their is a witch hunt against 19c. has their is more than one poster with multiple identitied name changes. 19C still denies it is him though which flies in the face of all available evidence. I'm not sure that someone such as himself who clearly has a serious mental illness should be engaging in this sort of debate on a football forum. It's probably not particularly healthy for himself, nor is it healthy for everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westofshannonsaint Posted 13 July, 2009 Share Posted 13 July, 2009 what a load of horse **** - get over yourselves, no one wants to read this crap. What about np? well said, & I've paid up now so I am allowed to give out. & may I point out that 19's condition, whatever it may be, is not Saints related - unless it was caused by Saints - in which case i think it is deserving of a separate thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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