Thedelldays Posted 2 September, 2008 Share Posted 2 September, 2008 ....I thought Lowe and co were supposed to be selling our best players in this transfer window....isnt that was the "expert predictors" told us?? oh well, just have 4 months of telling us how he will sell every one in January then I guess.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 2 September, 2008 Share Posted 2 September, 2008 Maybe no-one wanted them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwaySaint1 Posted 2 September, 2008 Share Posted 2 September, 2008 Barclays will not be happy! More cuts on the way then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Paul C Posted 2 September, 2008 Share Posted 2 September, 2008 Maybe no-one wanted them? It's very difficult to sell 5h!t - no matter how cheap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaptopSaint Posted 2 September, 2008 Share Posted 2 September, 2008 (edited) No, he was going to be selling/loaning our most highly paid players. Rasiak, Saga, Davies, Viafara all gone -- and Euell, Skacel, BWP would have gone for a decent offer, and may still go on loan. Personally I would have kept Greg over Stern, and told Stoke they'd got enough of our former players already when they came in for Davies (they re-signed Higgi today as well and maybe they'll take Kelvin on loan). But we have no money and aren't in a position to argue. And btw my Spurs supporting mate says he'd rather have kept Pekhart than brought in Fraizer Campbell for 7 mill. Let's just pray he's right. Edited 2 September, 2008 by LaptopSaint spelling fraizer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 2 September, 2008 Share Posted 2 September, 2008 disappointing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 2 September, 2008 Share Posted 2 September, 2008 Unless Radio Solent was right about an appearance fee, maybe we will see Skacel back in the squad, but its an open question whether he's better than what we already have. We need to hope that the board had factored in the possibility of the transfers out not happening when they agreed the 3 loans. Sad for Skacel though, as his career has definitely stalled, after looking so promising not so long ago. Maybe he has an incentive now to extractum digitatum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huffton Posted 2 September, 2008 Share Posted 2 September, 2008 Barclays will not be happy! More cuts on the way then? How can you possibly know that? AS much as I hate Rupert and Wilde they're not idiots when it comes to finances. When they sat down with Barclays and thrashed out a deal there would have been a clear re-payment stucture put in place. We are obviously meeting that or there is no way we would even be contemplating bringing in new players without at least raising some revenue first. I would suggest Barclays are quite happy in fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather Posted 2 September, 2008 Share Posted 2 September, 2008 No, he was going to be selling/loaning our most highly paid players. Rasiak, Saga, Davies, Viafara all gone -- and Euell, Skacel, BWP would have gone for a decent offer, and may still go on loan. Personally I would have kept Greg over Stern, and told Stoke they'd got enough of our former players already when they came in for Davies (they re-signed Higgi today as well and maybe they'll take Kelvin on loan). But we have no money and aren't in a position to argue. And btw my Spurs supporting mate says he'd rather have kept Pekhart than brought in Fraizer Campbell for 7 mill. Let's just pray he's right. Campbell is only on loan at Spurs for the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather Posted 2 September, 2008 Share Posted 2 September, 2008 Unless teams want to buy the likes of Skacel, Euell etc then they won't be leaving. The trouble being that these players are on massive wages for the championship and the only clubs likely to be interested are our divisional rivals who can't afford the wages they are on unless the take a big pay cut ( which Skacel wouldn't do to join Ipswich). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 2 September, 2008 Share Posted 2 September, 2008 ....I thought Lowe and co were supposed to be selling our best players in this transfer window....isnt that was the "expert predictors" told us?? oh well, just have 4 months of telling us how he will sell every one in January then I guess.. We didn't have many left to sell if you hadn't noticed as they've been moved on already. Other than KD it seems the only players left from last years under-performing team that appear to not be in favour are BWP, Euell and Skacel. None of which are featuring and it is therefore reasonable to beleive that SFC are trying their very best to move them on. You can't sell something if there are no buyers. Skacel seems to be a prime example. SFC tried their best to shift him to Ipswich who offered him 6K per week (if we are to beleive the information coming out) whereas he's on 12K+ (again if we are to beleive what we hear). Hardly surprising he wouldn't go eh. Don't forgot the loan window opens in a weeks time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 2 September, 2008 Share Posted 2 September, 2008 as Greenridge says the loan window opens and then some more will go.The loan market is becoming a big part in football. More and more deals seem to be test it and see. Selling the middle range players is going to become harder with only the cream worth massive fees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwaySaint1 Posted 2 September, 2008 Share Posted 2 September, 2008 How can you possibly know that? AS much as I hate Rupert and Wilde they're not idiots when it comes to finances. When they sat down with Barclays and thrashed out a deal there would have been a clear re-payment stucture put in place. We are obviously meeting that or there is no way we would even be contemplating bringing in new players without at least raising some revenue first. I would suggest Barclays are quite happy in fact. How can you possibly know that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chocco boxo Posted 2 September, 2008 Share Posted 2 September, 2008 It's very difficult to sell 5h!t - no matter how cheap It is but how come we find it so easy to buy 5h!t in the first place! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 2 September, 2008 Share Posted 2 September, 2008 Maybe it's because they weren't playing and not in the shop window? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 2 September, 2008 Share Posted 2 September, 2008 How can you possibly know that? AS much as I hate Rupert and Wilde they're not idiots when it comes to finances. When they sat down with Barclays and thrashed out a deal there would have been a clear re-payment stucture put in place. We are obviously meeting that or there is no way we would even be contemplating bringing in new players without at least raising some revenue first. I would suggest Barclays are quite happy in fact. I really and genuinely hope that is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 2 September, 2008 Share Posted 2 September, 2008 Unless teams want to buy the likes of Skacel, Euell etc then they won't be leaving. The trouble being that these players are on massive wages for the championship and the only clubs likely to be interested are our divisional rivals who can't afford the wages they are on unless the take a big pay cut ( which Skacel wouldn't do to join Ipswich). The logic doesn't QUITE work. I am certain we would have preferred to sell them. I do however expect us to loan them out. IF nobody takes them in the early days of the loan window then I am sure that we will let them go and we will pay some percantage of their wages. After all IF they are on say 10k a week plus appearance and win/goal/assist bonuses, we would still save substantial amounts of money even IF we pay say 30% of their base salary . At the moment we HAVE to remember that this season is about financial AND football survival. Both are linked and it is a delicate balancing act. My guess is that the catch-22 of 15,000 fans will make the decision easy enough, not enough money to pay all the wages vs the HOPE that fans will return. You cannot, unfortunately, eat hope, you need money to eat. The longer you can eat the better the chance that "rescue" will come. But of course without hope do you NEED to eat? Tough call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 2 September, 2008 Share Posted 2 September, 2008 Maybe no bugger wants them, TDD ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 2 September, 2008 Share Posted 2 September, 2008 Maybe no bugger wants them, TDD ???That could be right.I suspect there would be many takers but we signed them on too high wages and others are not so foolish,especially at present market conditions. Ipswich were still after Rudi and JE is being courted by Sheff Utd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 2 September, 2008 Share Posted 2 September, 2008 Who are these "expert predictors" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 2 September, 2008 Share Posted 2 September, 2008 Lets look at the high earners still at SMS: John, Skacel, Euell, BWP and Thomas. I would hazzard a guess that they are costing about £2.1m in wages plus insurance, pension and NIC. John still appears to have a part to play and with Rasiak and Saga on loan I am sure the club see that. Thomas is cover but it is pretty well rumoured he has been told he can go. Skacel, Euell (now injured) and BWP do not appear to have a role. So we are probably wasting about £1m a year on keeping them As the Window has closed and no one wants them because of their wages what is to stop them going out on loan when that period opens in two weeks. The same wage problem? Well lets say they are put out there with Saints contributing 50% wages for the loan duration. Could at least save us £0.5m.? Just a thought! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronCitySaint Posted 2 September, 2008 Share Posted 2 September, 2008 ....I thought Lowe and co were supposed to be selling our best players in this transfer window....isnt that was the "expert predictors" told us?? oh well, just have 4 months of telling us how he will sell every one in January then I guess.. Do you consider it better then that players like Skacel and Euell are still here with no chance of playing and still costing us full wages? Not quite sure who you are considering to be our 'best players' unless it is the likes of Andrew Davies who you may note is now playing for someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 2 September, 2008 Share Posted 2 September, 2008 Lets look at the high earners still at SMS: John, Skacel, Euell, BWP and Thomas. I would hazzard a guess that they are costing about £2.1m in wages plus insurance, pension and NIC. John still appears to have a part to play and with Rasiak and Saga on loan I am sure the club see that. Thomas is cover but it is pretty well rumoured he has been told he can go. Skacel, Euell (now injured) and BWP do not appear to have a role. So we are probably wasting about £1m a year on keeping them As the Window has closed and no one wants them because of their wages what is to stop them going out on loan when that period opens in two weeks. The same wage problem? Well lets say they are put out there with Saints contributing 50% wages for the loan duration. Could at least save us £0.5m.? Just a thought! Been saying that for weeks:-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 2 September, 2008 Share Posted 2 September, 2008 ....I thought Lowe and co were supposed to be selling our best players in this transfer window....isnt that was the "expert predictors" told us?? oh well, just have 4 months of telling us how he will sell every one in January then I guess.. They're so bad they can't even get that right FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Paul Posted 2 September, 2008 Share Posted 2 September, 2008 Now that these players are still here, whether we like it or not, they need to be part of the first team group, and not frozen out. We could need these guys in the event of injuries or loss of form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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