Legod Third Coming Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 Why will Saejis go??? new owners, better manager, more money???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warsash saint Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 I'm appalled, is this the reward for loyalty? No reward for getting us relegated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 Our new regime is looking at this with a business head rather than with a political or sentimental head. Very refreshing IMHO. I am delighted we have new owners and will support them. I do believe if a c certain person had done the same we would not be so forgiving.As I say footballing wise it is probably correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 Why was he given a new contract? What a complete waste of time and money. he wasnt given a new contract!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkenSaint Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 i hope killer still keeps somekind of role in the club, defence coach maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel1961red Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 OMG here we go again another thread on whose going to be the next manager, one thing you can say about being a Saints Fan is that its never boring there is always something to talk about. Good luck to MW and good ridence I say he was never good for our club but respect his loyalty, Bring on some one with a passion for our club thas what we need now . Bring back Gordon Strachan now that would really make my day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dello Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 Why, if he was offered a contract and the money is right, and the new owners want him, no reason for him not to come back a new manager will have never heard of him and would probably want someone far better!!!...apart from his wonder goal and the odd decent header he wasn't that wonderful!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altoniansaints Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 I am totally shocked this is a man who has shown an exceptional amount of loyalty towards our beloved club (something we haven`t seen much of in recent years). I wish Mr Wotte all the best for the future and hope the job in Egypt is still open and available for him! ByeBye Mr. Wotte you`ve been a star and thankyou for all you`ve done......... Having said all that i honestly believe that from the clubs point of view a change of manager is PROBABLY the right move. Lets just hope for a BIG name (KK for example) who has got the skills to take our great club onwards and upwards. I still feel that maybe MW`s loyalty could have been rewarded with his returning to his old role with the academy tho. Sad for Mr Wotte but (so long as the new man is the right man) happy for the great SFC! COYR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 Never a dull moment at this club is there ! Mark Wotte had a decent chance to show what he could do when he took over from Poortvliet and to be brutally honest there was not much evidence the team were responding to him . Mr Liebherr said yesterday he was going to put place in a top class management structure at the club and it looks like he's a man of his word . I'd expect an announcement regarding our next manager within the next few days as someone is in all probability already lined up - If I was a betting man I've have a few quid on us getting an established foreign manager with a solid record of success behind him . The message is perfectly clear , shape up or ship out . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handyman Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 No reward for getting us relegated But he had little time and no money! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Strover Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 It's a results driven business - his results weren't very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 But he had little time and no money! water under the bridge now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints Mad Si Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 But he had little time and no money! But he could of got the players up for it, and in the end we went down with a whimper (even before the -10)with no passion, I wouldnt of minded going down with a fight but it wasnt there and you have to put that down to motivation of the players! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 You don't invest the money that markus L has and leave the most important job to someone with his experience, history or previous results. However loyal Woote was in the pre season, this was his biggest ever gig and i doubt he will ever manage at this level again. He does go with our thanks and best wishes, but the reality (especially now) is that we can do much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokerchampion Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 Best regards to Wotte , i suppose that means Svennson will be next to go as well , shame if that happens to . Im sure there is a super plan ready to go to the next level .You cant put a price on a good manager to get us out of this division , i would expect a fairly big name the young players will look up to , and the old heads will also respect , being a player of Kevin Davis's stature and playing career it must be hard to get the motivation required by a manager who has achieved nothing as a player or manager . I think you might see a venables or some one of that ilke, a motivator with a presence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 That would be awful. They do horrible roast potatoes. FACT legal action in 5,4,3,2.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 I am delighted we have new owners and will support them. I do believe if a c certain person had done the same we would not be so forgiving.As I say footballing wise it is probably correct That person employed tweedle dumb and tweedle fecking dumber! At last we might have someone who knows football Nick! After all, first decision persuade our best player to stay!!!!! Second decision, fire an incompetent manager rather than EMPLOY one. So far, they're the best owners we've ever had! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 But he had little time and no money! He had a year and was brought in BECAUSE we had no money - that was supposed to be his forte - achieving success with very little resource Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block 5 Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 A new manager would already have been approached. These guys know what they are doing. This is the RIGHT time to lose Wotte. NOT a month or 2 into the season. I expect a higher profile manager will be announced next week...... WGS, KK, AB etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 Finally common sense prevailed in the end then. If you got a guy who has got 4 of his 6 proffesional teams relegated and none of them promoted then what does that say? If you had money would you feel confident handing it to him? The guy seemed nice enough but if we did not go into admin he would of been fired anyway, it was rumoured ages ago the players don't respect him and other people in the game do not either, didn't Jan call him a **** or something? My view is he was hanging around because he knew he would not get a better offer anywhere else, he talked on two occasions about not expecting to be here in the summer and having to find new employment, shock horror it finally happened. We have saved ourself the future of people waiting for him to slip up to say i told you so again. The fan base would never be 100% confident in his leadership due to what we saw last season. A whole new start is what was the right thing to do, he was being kept on for emotional reasons, when millions and millions are at stake you simply cannot allow that to happen, you need the best guy you can possibly get to help look after your business, Mark Wotte was never that guy and never going to be that guy. So goodluck to him, i hope he can get a role somewhere in the club, maybe a youth coach. But first team coach he should not be anywhere near. The news get's better and better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkadill Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 I agree. I have nothing but complete and utter respect for the man. He's worked his socks off all summer looking at players, watching next seasons oppo and planning the pre-season preparations. When he had an opportunity to leave us, he stuck around - and i will always be greatfull for that. all the best wotte... I agree - i hope he got a golden handshake as he turned down the chance to work in Eygypt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under Weststand Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 Well their certainly not messing about are they, just seen it on Sky sports news, interesting times indeed. Would have been prepared to give him a chance but they probably feel its best we have a clean sweep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 He had a year and was brought in BECAUSE we had no money - that was supposed to be his forte - achieving success with very little resource Trousers. Wotte's been sacked. I am now giving you an electronic hug and a non-homosexual kiss in celebration for talking sense over the last 48 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 A wise long term decision for the club taken at exactly the right time. Wotte was not the right man for the job, yes he acted with dignity and professionalism, but he was only appointed in the first place as their was no ther choice financially or personnel wise due to the mess the previous regime got us into. He was not universally backed by the fans for "Footballing Reasons" so well done to the transition team. Many appoinments need to be made with a long term view, we have had too many bandages and sticking plaster remedies. this shows somebody is thinking and planning. Their trainset, their plans, their money. First call is spot on, makes me even happier than I was before this news. From a human perspective, football managers come and go, yes it is sad, no he did nothing wrong, and conducted himself well. Mind you, Nickh or myself could have done that as could many on here. Bon Voyage Mr Wotte. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestSaint Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 The right decision - Spend £15M on a club and you can certainly appoint a better manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkadill Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 Watch this space - Steve Coppell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW11_Saint Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 I'm appalled, is this the reward for loyalty? No. But then I think all this "loyalty" stuff is so overplayed in this case - he merely stayed with us, getting paid, over the summer (dignified as he was while doing so). But he also took us down last year and unfortunately clearly wasn't up to the job. That's the reason he's been sacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIGANSAINT Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 bit of a shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 Watch this space - Steve Coppell I'd be happy. And frankly not surprised. The owners have said to be patient - Coppell is a patient rebuilder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW11_Saint Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 A wise long term decision for the club taken at exactly the right time. Wotte was not the right man for the job, yes he acted with dignity and professionalism, but he was only appointed in the first place as their was no ther choice financially or personnel wise due to the mess the previous regime got us into. He was not universally backed by the fans for "Footballing Reasons" so well done to the transition team. Many appoinments need to be made with a long term view, we have had too many bandages and sticking plaster remedies. this shows somebody is thinking and planning. Their trainset, their plans, their money. First call is spot on, makes me even happier than I was before this news. From a human perspective, football managers come and go, yes it is sad, no he did nothing wrong, and conducted himself well. Mind you, Nickh or myself could have done that as could many on here. Bon Voyage Mr Wotte. Well said Phil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 That person employed tweedle dumb and tweedle fecking dumber! At last we might have someone who knows football Nick! After all, first decision persuade our best player to stay!!!!! Second decision, fire an incompetent manager rather than EMPLOY one. So far, they're the best owners we've ever had! to be fair Wotte said he would speak to Davis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 hopefully this indicates that money is going to be available to buy players and they want someone better selecting them than the man who thought Smith was worldclass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogerfryisalegend Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 he wasnt given a new contract!!He was on sky sports news 3 minutes ago, saying he signed a new contract last week, make of that what you will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 Blimey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 A wise long term decision for the club taken at exactly the right time. Wotte was not the right man for the job, yes he acted with dignity and professionalism, but he was only appointed in the first place as their was no ther choice financially or personnel wise due to the mess the previous regime got us into. He was not universally backed by the fans for "Footballing Reasons" so well done to the transition team. Many appoinments need to be made with a long term view, we have had too many bandages and sticking plaster remedies. this shows somebody is thinking and planning. Their trainset, their plans, their money. First call is spot on, makes me even happier than I was before this news. From a human perspective, football managers come and go, yes it is sad, no he did nothing wrong, and conducted himself well. Mind you, Nickh or myself could have done that as could many on here. Bon Voyage Mr Wotte.Agree with your post Phil. He was just not good enough. I will say no more than that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Nelson Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 I am one of them who have been defending Wotte and I was certain that he wouldn't have been given a contract without the new owner having giving it the nod. I thought he needed support and respect rather than a constant chipping from the sideline, which is a newish and dreadful trait of supporters. The sacking is a loud and clear expression of intent from Markus. Whoever is coming in is the next clear expression, after which we will have a fair idea of what the future holds. I am impressed by the way things are done now that the sale is complete, in an honourable way without rumours or tip-offs. Whoever will be our next manager I will give him (it can't be a her, can it?) my full support, and I hope that every Saints fan will do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 Mixed feelings - my heart says that he should have been rewarded for getting on with his job and stabilising the ship despite the distractions; my head says that some fresh thinking footballing-wise was necessary (I actually prefered the football played by JP). Probably helps that MLT and flash gordon were drawing up lists of possible candidates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiesaint Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 Good luck Mark! Although I think this is the best decision for the club I do thi he has been fantastic over the last few weeks and his loyalty, when he could have accepted a very well paid job in Eqypt, should be commended. Thank you and best wishes COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdavewatson Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 Quite a shock to see it happen so quickly, but I have to say I feel it is the right decision. We do need a clean out and quite frankly, he oversaw some awful team performances. I am feeling so positive it is scaring me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 He was on sky sports news 3 minutes ago, saying he signed a new contract last week, make of that what you will. Yes with the consent of the last board - Jones and Lowe etc... on Fry's advice. Not with the new board. I like these guys, I'm with LG3C decisively sacking an incompetent manager and kept our best player in 24 hrs... best owners we have had for MANY years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 Why will Saejis go??? new owners, better manager, more money???? He was a loanee anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bungle Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 Really disappointed by the decision, and it has put a small downer on recent events for me. Important we get the right person in, and so that means Boothroyd, Coppell and Keegan need not apply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 A wise long term decision for the club taken at exactly the right time. Wotte was not the right man for the job, yes he acted with dignity and professionalism, but he was only appointed in the first place as their was no ther choice financially or personnel wise due to the mess the previous regime got us into. He was not universally backed by the fans for "Footballing Reasons" so well done to the transition team. Many appoinments need to be made with a long term view, we have had too many bandages and sticking plaster remedies. this shows somebody is thinking and planning. Their trainset, their plans, their money. First call is spot on, makes me even happier than I was before this news. From a human perspective, football managers come and go, yes it is sad, no he did nothing wrong, and conducted himself well. Mind you, Nickh or myself could have done that as could many on here. Bon Voyage Mr Wotte. Am I reading this right Phil? Are you on the Times short list??????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W9Saint Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 It's great that they are thinking of football first, not worrying about the financial implications of having to pay out MW's contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostBoys Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 I do not think a debate on his football managerial merits is warranted at this time but I would like to acknowledge his coaching skills which is why we acquired him in the first place. Having had the genuine pleasure of meeting and chatting with him a couple of times I would like to thank him for his efforts and loyalty and wish him well for the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WealdSaint Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 The right decision IMHO However, I think Mark Wotte was a decent bloke and deserves respect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 Really disappointed by the decision, and it has put a small downer on recent events for me. Important we get the right person in, and so that means Boothroyd, Coppell and Keegan need not apply. Well I'm glad you're not drawing up the short-list and conducting the interviews then!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windmill Arm 2 Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 Right decision, he was part of our downfall. Lets hope the next man has the right credentials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMidfieldGeneral Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 Wote and Poortvleit both came acroos as decent chaps.. but this is up there with the news of the takeover!! Let`s start a new era with a Change from top to bottom... We need a manager who can attract decent names/players and be respected by them. Also, a manager who knows the English game. E.G. League 1 and The Championship isn`t for the faint hearted!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARCELONASAINT Posted 9 July, 2009 Share Posted 9 July, 2009 Bloody hell these new guys don't mess about do they. They obviously knew Wotte would not be kept on and must have someone lined up or a bloody good idea about who they want!! Personally i believe this is the right choice. Feel sorry for him and he must be gutted because his lunchtime interview at Staplewood showed he did not even have an inclining this was coming! How long before the new manager is announced then...the rate these new guys are going then i would not be surprised to see the new manager unveiled within the next 72 hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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