Waterside.saint Posted 22 January, 2012 Posted 22 January, 2012 Theres plenty of hand-wringing on the Snooze this evening: http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/pompey/pompey-past/great-matches/pompey_on_the_brink_of_a_winding_up_order_1_3445646 "16 blueshirt Sunday, January 22, 2012 at 07:00 PM let me get this straight. according to this report, we owe £1.6M to the taxman, we cant afford to pay it and among the comments made by the administrator, Mr Andronikou, "we arent fazed or worried by it" Indeed? we are on the verge of going out of existence, and if Andronikou isnt worried about that then let me tell you that I am, and so, too, I would imagine, are all true Pompey supporters everywhere........... come on Andronikou, as administrator you are supoosed to be getting us out of the mess we find ourselves in, you told us last week you'd found a preferred buyer, well, where the hell is he.......?"
Waterside.saint Posted 22 January, 2012 Posted 22 January, 2012 In fact talking about hand-wringing, I found this pertinent definition at http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/handwringing hand·wring·ing noun 1. a physical expression of concern, distress, or guilt. Seems to me all three would be appropriate
alpine_saint Posted 22 January, 2012 Posted 22 January, 2012 .....and as the endgame approaches........... Believe it when I see it. The FL seem to have a complete blind spot where PFC are concerned. And something always seems to happen to prevent HMRC doing their job to its logical conclusion.
OVER THE HILL Posted 22 January, 2012 Posted 22 January, 2012 Believe it when I see it. The FL seem to have a complete blind spot where PFC are concerned. And something always seems to happen to prevent HMRC doing their job to its logical conclusion. Agree with Alps for the first time ever
Verbal Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 Agree with Alps for the first time ever No, he's not going to break his duck. He's wrong again. This is Pompey's last season.
SaintBobby Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 Query: does Chainrai have an incentive to keep them afloat? Sorry if this has been covered elsewhere...but if the club owes him £17m isn't he best advised to spend several £m on keeping alive the possibility that he gets some of that back? E.g. if he could get them over this hurdle by spending £2m and they restructured so as to pay him back £500K a year for 34 years, isn't this a good deal for him? Or are the sums needed so vast that he probably needs to take a £17m loss on the chin?
Glasgow_Saint Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 Will we welcome Pompey fans who switch to support Saints if/when the club goes pop?
Glasgow_Saint Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 Prison is all about getting a second chance when released, so yes I think so. Depends on the crime imo.......
Trader Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 Will we welcome Pompey fans who switch to support Saints if/when the club goes pop? Presumably they would attend matches in disguise. To come in a blue shirt with "jobsite" written on it would be ill-advised.
K,Billy's supersound Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 Will we welcome Pompey fans who switch to support Saints if/when the club goes pop? sure we would, then we could build a 600million super stadium on the water front and buy all the top players in europe.
St Jim Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 Theres plenty of hand-wringing on the Snooze this evening: http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/pompey/pompey-past/great-matches/pompey_on_the_brink_of_a_winding_up_order_1_3445646 "16 blueshirt Sunday, January 22, 2012 at 07:00 PM let me get this straight. according to this report, we owe £1.6M to the taxman, we cant afford to pay it and among the comments made by the administrator, Mr Andronikou, "we arent fazed or worried by it" Indeed? we are on the verge of going out of existence, and if Andronikou isnt worried about that then let me tell you that I am, and so, too, I would imagine, are all true Pompey supporters everywhere........... come on Andronikou, as administrator you are supoosed to be getting us out of the mess we find ourselves in, you told us last week you'd found a preferred buyer, well, where the hell is he.......?" It's the most sensible thing the Android has said. Of course he isn't worried about it, he doens't give a 5h1t - he isn't the administrator of PFC but of CSI. PFC isn't an asset of CSI more a liability and a drain on them. Correct me if I'm barking up the wrong tree here but as I understand it if they fold everything is sold and paid back to secured creditors first (which CSI, aka Chinny are) then unsecured creditors. These Sk8's have to realise that the Android doesn't give a t0ss about PFC any more, his job is to find the best solution for all creditors of CSI.........well one creditor anyway, Chinny. Once Chinny has raped & pillaged the carcass of the remains of the club to the point he know's there's not more meat left on the bones, unless there's another dumb f***wit stupid enough to part with their hard earned.....sorry, hard stolen cash he'll fold at teh first oppertunity.
Saint_clark Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 I too cannot see how they will possibly get away with it this time. Liquidation is surely the only option now, unless some mentalist with billions comes in. This thread will become an epic to rival Homers Iliad in years to come...
Saint in Paradise Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 Sorry but I worry that they will somehow squirm away with it yet again. Only when I see it in writting that the FL and or HMRC have finally taken action will I believe that they are being punished/killed off.
Saint in Paradise Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 My wife has sent an e-mail to the FL - bet she does not get the answer I want. Dear Sirs, My husband keeps laughing at me because I support Portsmouth, guess who he supports? I was raised in Gosport and so have supported "my local" team for more years than I care to say. Even though we have now lived in NZ for over 20 years I still follow Pompey. He keeps saying that Pompey must get a major points deduction as they are in Admin because of their parent company being in Admin and no money is coming in from C.S.I. to run Pompey. He says we cheated by using money alleged to have been stolen and we must pay that back at once and if we don't it just proves even more that we are insolvent. He also laughs when he reads the statements from Mr Lampitt and Mr Andronikou. He also asks how can we be allowed to sign players when we have had to admit that we now owe H.M.R.C. at least 1.6 million pounds for November and December let alone Januarys bill which will be due soon as well. He also goes on and on about how we haven't even started paying the C.V.A yet and have renegaded on our promise to pay the small debtors and charities either, meaning that we are gaining a big advantage over other clubs who are more careful with their money. Please would you tell me he is talking rubbish about a points deduction as I think we don't deserve one as lots of other clubs also have cash flow problems and owe lots of money. In great hope and with kind regards
Saint Paul C Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 Every time I read this thread, the following tune is playing in my subconscious mind...
dubai_phil Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 OK that was a fun diversion. Now back to reality. There is NOT a WUP in place at this time, as it is not yet published in The London Gazette. Which leaves our Thread Insolvency & Banking Division Teams the task of monitoring said Gazette for the first Official Sign and rushing that news out to our Analytical & PR Teams........... So that everyone else can finally have a total complete and utter ROFL
Brizzie Saints Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 My wife has sent an e-mail to the FL - bet she does not get the answer I want. Dear Sirs, My husband keeps laughing at me because I support Portsmouth, guess who he supports? I was raised in Gosport and so have supported "my local" team for more years than I care to say. Even though we have now lived in NZ for over 20 years I still follow Pompey. He keeps saying that Pompey must get a major points deduction as they are in Admin because of their parent company being in Admin and no money is coming in from C.S.I. to run Pompey. He says we cheated by using money alleged to have been stolen and we must pay that back at once and if we don't it just proves even more that we are insolvent. He also laughs when he reads the statements from Mr Lampitt and Mr Andronikou. He also asks how can we be allowed to sign players when we have had to admit that we now owe H.M.R.C. at least 1.6 million pounds for November and December let alone Januarys bill which will be due soon as well. He also goes on and on about how we haven't even started paying the C.V.A yet and have renegaded on our promise to pay the small debtors and charities either, meaning that we are gaining a big advantage over other clubs who are more careful with their money. Please would you tell me he is talking rubbish about a points deduction as I think we don't deserve one as lots of other clubs also have cash flow problems and owe lots of money. In great hope and with kind regards Sorry the only thing that really hit me from that post is you married a skate, condolences It tears me up but I also was born in a PO postcode but on the other side of the water, but at least moved to the border at a very young age and only ever supported the saints, strangely my wife was also born in the town we cannot mention and guess who she supports..................well obviously the mighty saints. We both followed them home and away but she never forgave me for not letting her go to the ZDT at wembley coz she was 8 months pregnant.......women
Brizzie Saints Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 (edited) [video=youtube_share;x_xmujSyxkU] Well it made me laugh Edited 23 January, 2012 by Brizzie Saints
seaempty Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 Every time I read this thread, the following tune is playing in my subconscious mind... I always hear this tune in my head when I read that things have taken a turn for the worse for the Skates:
dubai_phil Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 Crouching Tiger Hidden Admin Superbad (Actually that title doesn't need changing at all) The Saints Supremacy Grosse Point Deduction
trousers Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 1/2: @pn_neil_allen: RT @brianhowe01: Its amazing how much hate mail i get from so called Pompey fans and how many personal attacks i read on fan sites. My proposal is in. Que?
Channon's Sideburns Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 Had another thought on film titles ..... 'Delusions of Grandeur' - the Pompey Story
dubai_phil Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 Season of the Living Dead The Long Goodbye Oh and with it's age how could we have missed Jurassic Fratton Park
trousers Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 @pn_neil_allen: Seems Lampitt never told Appleton about #Pompey £1.6m tax bill. He found out Saturday from his backroom staff after somebody saw The News!
Channon's Sideburns Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 Colin Farmery on Solent just after 7.30am - expect more 'woe is Pompey'....
Channon's Sideburns Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 @pn_neil_allen: Seems Lampitt never told Appleton about #Pompey £1.6m tax bill. He found out Saturday from his backroom staff after somebody saw The News! If Appy wants to walk into another job - he's likely to walk now after that... Implosion...haha
Doctoroncall Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 Query: does Chainrai have an incentive to keep them afloat? Sorry if this has been covered elsewhere...but if the club owes him £17m isn't he best advised to spend several £m on keeping alive the possibility that he gets some of that back? E.g. if he could get them over this hurdle by spending £2m and they restructured so as to pay him back £500K a year for 34 years, isn't this a good deal for him? Or are the sums needed so vast that he probably needs to take a £17m loss on the chin? That boat was missed the last time Chainrai was owner when he could have ordered a more circumspect player recruitment driver and given a decent young manager a chance. But he went short term for a chance to return to the PL or at least a quick sale on a side riding high in the Championship. That quick sale only brought Antonov, he was apparently the best of the bunch and didn't even give Chainrai any money for the club (repayment plan was reneged at the first time of asking). Currently they still have too large a wage bill to sustain on downward attendences, parachute payments that will only just cover the CVA scheduled to start in April, a wreck of a stadium which needs fixing and no chance of a change in owner type. It looks like the end game.
trousers Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 Pompey fan in 'more worried about team morale than likely implosion of football club as a whole' shocker... @pn_neil_allen: RT @PompeyMax: @pn_neil_allen That will be brilliant for the team morale! Well Done The News!!!
Channon's Sideburns Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 Haha... Farmery reckons the WUP is brinksmanship on AA's part to 'bring forward buyers' Dreamer.
trousers Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 Haha... Farmery reckons the WUP is brinksmanship on AA's part to 'bring forward buyers' Dreamer. Next he'll be telling us that Cala was an AA stooge too....
Danish Saint Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 Can someone please explain how a WUP can be considered "brinkmanship" instead of end game, when looking at P*mpey?
trousers Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 Can someone please explain how a WUP can be considered "brinkmanship" instead of end game, when looking at P*mpey? It's something to do with parallel universes and worm holes but I can't explain in any detail for fear of disrupting the space-time continuum
Danish Saint Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 It's something to do with parallel universes and worm holes but I can't explain in any detail for fear of disrupting the space-time continuum Tardis then!
saint si Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 Meanwhile, somewhere in South London... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/tottenham-hotspur/9031301/Spurs-manager-Harry-Redknapp-in-dock-over-tax-evasion.html Shaping up to be a fun couple of weeks!
trousers Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 Meanwhile, somewhere in South London... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/tottenham-hotspur/9031301/Spurs-manager-Harry-Redknapp-in-dock-over-tax-evasion.html Shaping up to be a fun couple of weeks! I'll be walking past Southwark Court in 15 minutes. Will post a photo to set the scene...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 Excellent... Cala and Brian Howe having a spat on Twitter... @Joseph_Cala @brianhowe01 So you can't confirm you've got funding? And you criticise me? Good luck, but I see no point continuing this dialog.
S-Clarke Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 Excellent... Cala and Brian Howe having a spat on Twitter... @Joseph_Cala @brianhowe01 So you can't confirm you've got funding? And you criticise me? Good luck, but I see no point continuing this dialog. Nice to see that their prospective owners are professional and discreet. TBH i reckon they'll be wound up, these idiots are the only level of interest they can ever find. It's just pathetic and they need to be put out of their misery.
Gorgiesaint Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/pdfs/ir8.pdf OK that was a fun diversion. Now back to reality. There is NOT a WUP in place at this time, as it is not yet published in The London Gazette. Which leaves our Thread Insolvency & Banking Division Teams the task of monitoring said Gazette for the first Official Sign and rushing that news out to our Analytical & PR Teams........... So that everyone else can finally have a total complete and utter ROFL Maybe not Phil. From the leaflet kindly posted by Delmary earlier... The document you have is called a petition. On it you will see that a date and time for the hearing has been set. Hearings are held at the Companies Court, Royal Courts of Justice, Strand, London WC2A 2LL Looks like they may already have their date!
Marsdinho Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 I imagine there is some secretary at the Football League office this morning, opening up their mailbox to find loads of email from the south coast asking WTF is going on...
trousers Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 Bugger...just missed him! James Pearce @Pearcesport Harry Redknapp has just arrived at Southwark Crown Court. Milan Mandaric not here yet. Both face 2 charges of cheating public revenue 8:26am - 23 Jan 12 via TweetDeck
dubai_phil Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 Maybe not Phil. From the leaflet kindly posted by Delmary earlier... Looks like they may already have their date! Ah ha..... Date Night Will be more fun on here than the original movie
bridge too far Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 Pearcesport James Pearce Redknapp/Mandaric trial being moved from Court 8 to Court 6, which is slightly bigger. Still not early enough room for those hoping to watch
trousers Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 The 'Shred-it' van on the left of the second shot just turned up...poetic... :-)
bridge too far Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 Pearcesport James Pearce Trial is due to last 2 weeks. Lots of questions but please don't expect me to answer. I can only report basic facts + what's said in Court
saintbletch Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 I was just thinking to myself that Pompeys behaviour over the last 10 years and this thread in particular would make a great film documentary. So come on guys, what's the title gonna be? How about: From the Prem to the Pritstick. Or Godfather parts 4,5 and 6. Or From FA Cup to p1ssless pot The Importance of Being Honest?
Toomer Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 The Shred it Van will be delivering all the bits of brown paper bags in confidential waste bags.
Doctoroncall Posted 23 January, 2012 Posted 23 January, 2012 The 'Shred-it' van on the left of the second shot just turned up...poetic... :-) Well now they can put back shredded paper to see what was originally typed.
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