Tamesaint Posted 6 January, 2012 Posted 6 January, 2012 That guy mentions fresh innovative ideas to get the club thriving. What might these be? Fair enough he says it can't carry on operating the way it has been, just wondering what the plans might be. As I see it, they could only be a long-term project. New stadium seems pointless while they attract so few plans and have nothing but debt. Surely losing the big earners is the first step, then focus on youth, developing players they can sell at big profits, build the infrastructure and get some stability with the manager, coaches and owners for several years. If they go to L1 or L2 so be it, it shouldn't change the plan and they could ultimately come back stronger, rather than short-term success built on club-crippling debt. Depends what the fans want. Saints came back stronger, but weren't in half the mess they were (and still nearly disappeared), plus we didn't spend fortunes every year we didn't have (just one year with a drunken scot, and even then nothing like their levels). So realistic wage structures, long term team building, youth players, improved academy and training facilities. What else can they focus on? Then in 5-10 years if it's all gone well, they're in the top 2 divisions and selling out Fratton Park, look to build a new stadium. Anything more short-term than that just seems likely to end in a complete mess....AGAIN. Too right. That is what they should do. But it requires patience from their fans if this approach does lead to a fall down the football League. It requires skill to get the right people in place to build a development structure. It requires time for everything to fall into place. Most teams already do this sort of thing so it even may require a great deal of luck for the best talent to want to come to Pompey. Why bother with this when you can get a money launderer from the mafia in charge and you are as deluded as Corpse and the others of the Blue Few?
hypochondriac Posted 6 January, 2012 Posted 6 January, 2012 The thing is, while people like Corp continue to mock as they get away with it, and many of us remain frustrated at the lack of punishment, all it's doing is delaying their long-term progress. While it drags on from owner to owner, investigation to investigation and further corruption, they're treading water trying not to drown. The only real way for them to progress long-term and build the infrastructure, to actually have something truly worth investing in, is to start over. Not necessarily a new club, but certainly a new attitude, long term committed owners and proper focus on building rather than short term results. Very true. I mean their fans were getting annoyed with csi because they said they wouldn't be able to get them a new stadium within five years Ffs. I do wonder where they get their unrealistic expectations from.
Channon's Sideburns Posted 6 January, 2012 Posted 6 January, 2012 Solent trying to cover the Pompey debarcle, playing up the sale. Text your views to 81333 and start your text with 'SOLENT'....
tony13579 Posted 6 January, 2012 Posted 6 January, 2012 The solent item this morning was a bit thin. No new news just recycled stuff from yesterday.
Channon's Sideburns Posted 6 January, 2012 Posted 6 January, 2012 The solent item this morning was a bit thin. No new news just recycled stuff from yesterday. Yeah, it was thin - mainly based on the 'reasons to buy Pompey'
trousers Posted 6 January, 2012 Posted 6 January, 2012 Did anyone ask how or why a parent company that is comprised solely of financially buoyant subsidiary companies can go into administration in the first place?
Channon's Sideburns Posted 6 January, 2012 Posted 6 January, 2012 So who has bought them this time? Nobody knows - whoever they are - they still have to apply for the FAPPT. Basically Solent are creaming themselves over a - 'non-story' - all they're going on is what Andronikou tells them, which could mean owners in 7/10 days, or 48 hours dependent on the interview. It's just a load of old b&**8cks and they're lapping it up.
tony13579 Posted 6 January, 2012 Posted 6 January, 2012 No one yet. Solent are bigging up an announcement today, nothing on news now, not even "The News"... no one in the sporting press believes AA.
Stubby Posted 6 January, 2012 Posted 6 January, 2012 Looks like Brian Howe of Bad Company fame is out of the running Sorry if I've missed something. Is that a recent quote? Where does it come from? If it's genuine, why would a club in so desperate a plight refuse to talk to him?
hypochondriac Posted 6 January, 2012 Posted 6 January, 2012 Sorry if I've missed something. Is that a recent quote? Where does it come from? If it's genuine, why would a club in so desperate a plight refuse to talk to him? He is a well known bullsh*tter. Wouldn't be a surprise if he faked interest for publicity.
JackFrost Posted 6 January, 2012 Posted 6 January, 2012 Nobody knows - whoever they are - they still have to apply for the FAPPT. Basically Solent are creaming themselves over a - 'non-story' - all they're going on is what Andronikou tells them, which could mean owners in 7/10 days, or 48 hours dependent on the interview. It's just a load of old b&**8cks and they're lapping it up. I heard Solent put that back to "a fortnight" this morning
holepuncture Posted 6 January, 2012 Posted 6 January, 2012 I heard Solent put that back to "a fortnight" this morning Hes a real tease old AA, 24 hours/48 hours/7 days/10 days/Two weeks... when will he reveal his latest set of good honest owners of the Fratton liability. Im quite excited by it all, it will be great outing them as crooks or discovering they are once again closely linked to Chinny and Gaddy... whoever it is they need to come in with cold hard cash by the truck load ready to hand over to Chinny and Gaddy throughout the first 1/4 of 2012... and thats before any major refurbishment projects can begin on the toilet! thats also before the 0.5m per month they will need to burn on the wages of TBH, Kitson et al as the pathetic support dosent and will never come close to sustaining Lampitt and Clotterils stunning quality over quantity legacy - legends! Sweep stake on Pompeys honourable new custodians? Marc Jackson and LifeLongSaint The kid from oop north and his bankrupt dad Duffen and his frozen accounts and assets Danney Azougy and Levi Kusnair TCWTB and SOS pompey! in other news, it appears that they days of Milan Mandarich driving round in a JCB are on hold for now, the consultation has now moved on to child labour: http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/news/local/east-hampshire/children_set_to_reveal_their_plans_for_pompey_1_3393031
eurosaint Posted 6 January, 2012 Posted 6 January, 2012 I heard Solent put that back to "a fortnight" this morning If you can be arsed to scroll back to the Swindon aftermath, you will find that AA is quoted with a 101 deadlines and predictions in interviews and eventually the whole thing took over 3 years ! I wouldn't give much (any?) credence to his dates and times as they are always covered by words like 'shoud be', 'fairly confident', etc, etc....
Weston Super Saint Posted 6 January, 2012 Posted 6 January, 2012 If you can be arsed to scroll back to the Swindon aftermath, you will find that AA is quoted with a 101 deadlines and predictions in interviews and eventually the whole thing took over 3 years ! I wouldn't give much (any?) credence to his dates and times as they are always covered by words like 'shoud be', 'fairly confident', etc, etc.... Personally I'm really confident with this announcement. The Corporate Whore has been very quiet this week. I suspect that's because he is counting and sorting his coppers in order to scrape together the pound needed to buy the club. Finally, Pompey will have an owner with a real, valid reason for owning the club, which will allow the Ho to finally post a prediction that will come true I can't wait.
rallyboy Posted 6 January, 2012 Posted 6 January, 2012 The 10-week project has been jointly-organised by Affinion International, which specialises in preventing ID fraud, and the Pompey Study Centre. Do your own punchlines. I still chuckle at this idea of some well-meaning fan group or ego-driven simpleton buying the club for £1 and thinking it's a bargain. Wakey wakey, that pound makes you responsible for millions of pounds of debt - and when you read the small print you'll find that Chanrai still has control of all assets and future income. It's not so much an administration that AA is operating, it's a financial mantrap - he's just waiting for a greater fool to wander in and lose a leg.
tony13579 Posted 6 January, 2012 Posted 6 January, 2012 YOUNGSTERS will be pitching their ideas on how to renovate Fratton Park, the home of Portsmouth Football Club, next week. They were given a challenge by Portsmouth-based Affinion International, which is looking to discover the architects, designers and entrepreneurs of the future. Fair play to them, there is little chance of any one of working age today actually laying the foundations for the new staduim. Its the hope that kills them
fromdayone Posted 6 January, 2012 Posted 6 January, 2012 Pompey continue to p155 everyone in football off http://www.westlondonsport.com/non-league/pompey-slammed-after-thompson-moves-to-fratton-park/
Corporate Ho Posted 6 January, 2012 Posted 6 January, 2012 Absolutely right. It's only since CSI went into admin that there has been any public admission by anyone connected with PFC that they can't pay their way through the season. It is obvious that funds from CSI were propping up the football operations. Furthermore, there must be serious question mark over whether those funds were the proceeds of crime in the first place. Any failure to award a points deduction would be utterly obscene. Why? The financial plan that was put in place was agreed with the FL based on the investment from CSI. You seem to be forgetting that without the money the Liebherr's are pumping in you'd be in exactly the same position. If we're "insolvent" without investment surely the same has to be said for you? 1) Clear off chinnys 17 million (or £12m as it was reported in the papers, meaning £5m of what CSI spent was a downpayment on the purchase price) 2) Pay off the additional 10 milllion debt to CSI (or, pay this to Chainrai as the purchase price for the club and kill two birds with one stone) 3) Pay off all creditors under 2.5k (amounts to just over £100K) 4) Pay off outstanding purchased players installments (paid over the agreed time period, not up front) Ho is way out, for a change! There's no way the WRC rights are worth that now Gemmel - maybe £5M tops? I've never said the WRC rights are worth £30m as Gemmel said I did. I said CSI PAID £30m for them, not that it's what it's worth now. However, the fact that other people are bidding for them surely proves that PFC and CSI whilst obviously linked are not linked "as one economic entity" - that's the key part of the phrase relating to parent companies that you 'tards keep missing. One thing that does strike me is if the FL do deduct points then they consider that P****y and CSI are inextricably linked if that is the case they may take a dim view of P****y, being an asset (or liability as the case is) of CSI, just being sold to other person(s) (which will mean that P*****y are then f*** all to do with CSI) and CSI can then exit administration without a CVA of just be liquidated, shafting all the creditors they owe monies to. This is ultimately what the FL are trying to stamp out so will be interesting to see how the FL view all this. See above - Inextricably linked AS ONE COMMERCIAL ENTITY. We have additional income besides CSI (gate receipts, TV money, commercial) and CSI also have the WRC so we aren't linked as one commercial entity like SLH were. The FL may well dock us points but if the criteria they use to dock you points is applied then it shouldn't be because we're not linked as one commercial entity. It really isn't very hard to understand surely? You may recall that I asked you for your opinion as to why people like Antonov of the Russian mafia would be interested in buying your poxy club if it were not for money-laundering purposes. You enlightened us with your opinion that money-laundering was not the purpose for their ownership, but when pressed to give any sensible alternative motives for the purchase, you have been peculiarly reticent. Are we to presume that you don't know the answer? If so, be honest enough to admit it. If not, give us some pertinent reasons. And what would be the reasons for anybody to be interested in purchasing your cesspit now, when the situation is even more dire? I see that some Italians are sniffing around. Would this be the real mafia I got tired of answering the question because I've answered it so many times. Trawl back through and see just how many times I've answered this one or a variation of it. To summarise: 1. I don't believe CSI bought us to launder money through us because we are under strict scrutiny by the football authorities and they had other businesses they could launder money through. 2. People on here constantly say they bought Pompey because it's the dodgiest club, conveniently forgewtting they looked at other clubs before us. 3. I think they bought us because they wanted a football club in their portfolio of sports businesses - hence why they were looking at other clubs before us 4. I think people might be interested in us now because we're available at a pretty much knock down price of about £10m plus the CVA which is at least partly (if not mostly) covered by the parachute payments. At that price we're as good an investment as most in the NPC Pompey were in effect running at a loss with out this CSI cash' date=' some of it used on transfers some on wages - lets suggest PFC running about 4mil per annum short without CSI cash[/quote'] OK, let's suggest that. Get rid of Ben Haim, Kitson and a couple of others (who'll go in the summer anyway) and we're breaking even. Disagree anyone? The thing is, while people like Corp continue to mock as they get away with it, and many of us remain frustrated at the lack of punishment You are a real whiner, aren't you? I'm not mocking anything. I just fail to see what we've "got away with". We went into admin and got docked the points penalty that's in the rule book. Our owners (approved by the FL along with their business plan) have gone into administration and that leaves us with financial issues (as it would you if the Liebherrs for any reason stopped their funding of you) but we're not in administration (yet) and we're not "inextricably linked as one commercial entity" with CSI as you and SLH were so there's a clear difference. We have a CVA in place and whilst you may not like it the creditors agreed to push their payments back a year so they've agreed to the payment schedule. We apparently have people interested in buying us. Got away with what?
stevegrant Posted 6 January, 2012 Posted 6 January, 2012 Why? The financial plan that was put in place was agreed with the FL based on the investment from CSI. You seem to be forgetting that without the money the Liebherr's are pumping in you'd be in exactly the same position. If we're "insolvent" without investment surely the same has to be said for you? For the first two years, we were fairly heavily reliant upon the cash injected by Markus Liebherr (and latterly his estate), but we've since sold Alex Chamberlain for an initial £12m - first year losses were just under £8m, second year losses likely to be less (but won't be confirmed until 31st March), with a smaller squad and bigger attendances - and are now in the Championship with much higher revenues. We now get around £5m in broadcasting revenue, compared to about £500k in League One, and our attendances are averaging more than 26,000. Depending on transfer spending this month, I'd be very surprised if we don't at least break even this season.
dubai_phil Posted 6 January, 2012 Posted 6 January, 2012 I see they have signed the striker they need to get them out of the nPc solentsport BBC Radio Solent #pompey have signed 17 year-old striker Dan Thompson from Conference South side Hampton and Richmond Borough
saint si Posted 6 January, 2012 Posted 6 January, 2012 Why? The financial plan that was put in place was agreed with the FL based on the investment from CSI. You seem to be forgetting that without the money the Liebherr's are pumping in you'd be in exactly the same position. If we're "insolvent" without investment surely the same has to be said for you? And if I didn't get paid my salary, I wouldn't be able to pay my debts as they fall due either. Even you can work this one out. The company that owns you has actually gone in to administration and is no longer providing funding. I.e. an actual "insolvency event". Your solvency is inextricable from CSI's solvency. Ergo you are also insolvent.
JonnyLove Posted 6 January, 2012 Posted 6 January, 2012 For the first two years, we were fairly heavily reliant upon the cash injected by Markus Liebherr (and latterly his estate), but we've since sold Alex Chamberlain for an initial £12m - first year losses were just under £8m, second year losses likely to be less (but won't be confirmed until 31st March), with a smaller squad and bigger attendances - and are now in the Championship with much higher revenues. We now get around £5m in broadcasting revenue, compared to about £500k in League One, and our attendances are averaging more than 26,000. Depending on transfer spending this month, I'd be very surprised if we don't at least break even this season. Steve you forget that the next accounts are for our last season on League 1 and also won't include the AOC transfer money. So I still expect us to show a loss of about £6m for the last financial results. However next years accounts I would expect a break even or as close as for all 3 years in total. But then were are keeping within our 5 year projected means and not within our 5 months boom and bust like others.
tony13579 Posted 6 January, 2012 Posted 6 January, 2012 (edited) #pompey have signed 17 year-old striker Dan Thompson from Conference South side Hampton and Richmond Borough I see they have signed the striker they need to get them out of the nPc and immediately loaned out to Havant & Waterlooville http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/pompey/pompey-past/great-matches/pompey_blasted_over_thompson_swoop_1_3396217 They are very unhappy with The Skates http://www.stainesguardian.co.uk/sport/9457377.Beavers_fume_over_Pompey_bound_Thompson_s_exit/ ‘For a club the size of Portsmouth , paying players tens of thousands of pounds a week not to even make a goodwill donation disappoints us and leaves a very bitter taste in the mouth. Edited 6 January, 2012 by tony13579
Gingeletiss Posted 6 January, 2012 Posted 6 January, 2012 1. I don't believe CSI bought us to launder money through us because we are under strict scrutiny by the football authorities and they had other businesses they could launder money through. 2. People on here constantly say they bought Pompey because it's the dodgiest club, conveniently forgewtting they looked at other clubs before us. But Ho, they rejected those other clubs, ever thought why? ps....forgetting, I know you are keen on English and Grammar! 3. I think they bought us because they wanted a football club in their portfolio of sports businesses - hence why they were looking at other clubs before us 4. I think people might be interested in us now because we're available at a pretty much knock down price of about £10m plus the CVA which is at least partly (if not mostly) covered by the parachute payments. At that price we're as good an investment as most in the NPC Have you actually taken on board anything posted on here, do you truly believe that is the only debt attributed to your cesspit! Don't bother responding, you are obviously so blinkered, that proper discussion with you is impossible!
Wes Tender Posted 6 January, 2012 Posted 6 January, 2012 1. I don't believe CSI bought us to launder money through us because we are under strict scrutiny by the football authorities and they had other businesses they could launder money through. 2. People on here constantly say they bought Pompey because it's the dodgiest club, conveniently forgewtting they looked at other clubs before us. 3. I think they bought us because they wanted a football club in their portfolio of sports businesses - hence why they were looking at other clubs before us 4. I think people might be interested in us now because we're available at a pretty much knock down price of about £10m plus the CVA which is at least partly (if not mostly) covered by the parachute payments. At that price we're as good an investment as most in the NPC OK, let's suggest that. Get rid of Ben Haim, Kitson and a couple of others (who'll go in the summer anyway) and we're breaking even. Disagree anyone? Well, if you believe that CSI bought the Skates solely because they wanted a football club in their portfolio and settled for you when they failed to take over another couple of clubs including little Bournemouth who had the sense to reject them, then good for you. Most intelligent people can't see that there is anything attractive in the proposition, given the level of debt that you are saddled with, the decrepit old stadium owned by somebody else, the land around it owned by somebody else, the lack of your own training facilities, the insubstantial attendances insufficient to cover your running costs, etc. But despite all this, Antonov just wanted to buy you so that he had a football club in his portfolio and although he has been arrested for serious criminal activities, his intentions regarding the Skates were entirely honourable. Yeah, right. You seem to think that your poxy club is now currently a decent proposition for some other purchaser, but you only have to consider the above facts as reasons why you are not. For a start, which buyer with any intelligence would take you on with the uncertainty existing with the situation regarding the necessary purchase of the ground and the land surrounding it? And then you suggest that once higher paid players like Ben Haim, Kitson and presumably also Lawrence, Mokoena, Mullins, Norris, Rocha, and Benjani have gone, then you will be capable of making ends meet with your low attendances. But then all hopes of any chance of promotion back to Premiership will also have disappeared too, making you an even less attractive proposition to any potential purchaser, who would be able to pick up some other Championship club with a better ground, decent infrastructure, less debt and more potential return on their investment than the Skates. Any potential buyer must also be concerned about the possibility of a points deduction too, which might well make relegation a distinct possibility. A buyer would almost be better off under those circumstances buying a club in the third division with decent potential and infrastructure. After all, even in the third division, we were a better investment than you in the Premiership, as the passage of a couple of seasons has proved. So pardon me if I disagree with your deluded opinion that you are a decent prospect for a buyer in your current state. Your past record of recent owners shows exactly the sort of buyer you attract. Why it should be any different now, God alone knows.
Corporate Ho Posted 6 January, 2012 Posted 6 January, 2012 (edited) So pardon me if I disagree with your deluded opinion that you are a decent prospect for a buyer in your current state. Your past record of recent owners shows exactly the sort of buyer you attract. Why it should be any different now, God alone knows. Well, we should see in a couple of weeks if anyone's going to buy us or not, shouldn't we. I do like the "Bournemouth rejected them" line that's trotted out. Eddie MItchell rejected them because there wasn't enough in it for him, not from any moral superiority. Likewise the "people should look at another club" line you trot out. Who exactly? Bristol City kept getting mentioned as a better alternative but they've lost about £20m over the last couple of years and need a new ground. Which club should any potential buyer take on instead of Pompey for the price they can get us for? Anyway, glad to see you gay wavers still being so interested in us. You hypocritical, hand wringing bunch of ****s Edited 6 January, 2012 by Jimmy_D Fixing the swear filter
Gingeletiss Posted 6 January, 2012 Posted 6 January, 2012 (edited) Well, we should see in a couple of weeks if anyone's going to buy us or not, shouldn't we. I do like the "Bournemouth rejected them" line that's trotted out. Eddie MItchell rejected them because there wasn't enough in it for him, not from any moral superiority. Likewise the "people should look at another club" line you trot out. Who exactly? Bristol City kept getting mentioned as a better alternative but they've ONLY lost about £20m over the last couple of years and NOW RENT THEIR ground. Which club should any potential buyer take on instead of Pompey for the price they can get us for PLUS ALL THE DEBTS WE OWE? Anyway, glad to see you gay wavers still being so interested in us. You hypocritical, hand wringing bunch of ****s Done a bit of correcting for you Pete! Edited 6 January, 2012 by Jimmy_D fixing the swear filter
Doctoroncall Posted 6 January, 2012 Posted 6 January, 2012 If either the PL or FL cannot afford to run a suitable FAPPT, what chance have they got with going over a clubs books to check all the ins and outs? Just saying, may not believe it. What if "TBH, Kitson and a couple of others go in the summer and we're breaking even"? So will their replacements to a threadbare squad be given zero salary, given £10k a week or will they be big names to get the crowd back into Fratton?
COMEONYOUREDS Posted 6 January, 2012 Posted 6 January, 2012 (edited) Well, we should see in a couple of weeks if anyone's going to buy us or not, shouldn't we. I do like the "Bournemouth rejected them" line that's trotted out. Eddie MItchell rejected them because there wasn't enough in it for him, not from any moral superiority. Likewise the "people should look at another club" line you trot out. Who exactly? Bristol City kept getting mentioned as a better alternative but they've lost about £20m over the last couple of years and need a new ground. Which club should any potential buyer take on instead of Pompey for the price they can get us for? Anyway, glad to see you gay wavers still being so interested in us. You hypocritical, hand wringing bunch of ****s Yep can't wait.. Then you can make an even bigger **** out of yourself! Edited 6 January, 2012 by Jimmy_D fixing the swear filter
Wes Tender Posted 6 January, 2012 Posted 6 January, 2012 (edited) Well, we should see in a couple of weeks if anyone's going to buy us or not, shouldn't we. I do like the "Bournemouth rejected them" line that's trotted out. Eddie MItchell rejected them because there wasn't enough in it for him, not from any moral superiority. Likewise the "people should look at another club" line you trot out. Who exactly? Bristol City kept getting mentioned as a better alternative but they've lost about £20m over the last couple of years and need a new ground. Which club should any potential buyer take on instead of Pompey for the price they can get us for? Anyway, glad to see you gay wavers still being so interested in us. You hypocritical, hand wringing bunch of ****s Likewise I can't wait to see what sort of idiot will take you over. Your last half dozen owners have given us lots of laughs and there is no reason to expect that the latest lot will disappoint on that score. As I observed before, you lot seem to attract that sort of owner like sh*t attracts flies. And of course we're interested in you; you're our main local rivals. And who is hand-wringing? Not me. I'm enjoying the comedy value that you lot dish up, what with fake sheiks, non-existent sheiks, Russian mafia money-launderers, gun-runners, etc. Do I detect that you are getting a bit tetchy, Forest? Edited 6 January, 2012 by Jimmy_D fixing the swear filter
pedg Posted 6 January, 2012 Posted 6 January, 2012 and such a pity that their match against Chelsea is not being shown in TV, despite being played on Sunday. Still I am sure they will get a large turn out as sure many people will want to be able to say "I was there at pompey's last FA cup game ever".
Saints foreva Posted 6 January, 2012 Posted 6 January, 2012 My god that lot on "Pompey Fans Online" are the biggest bunch of retards on the net. - Lambert is 100% gone, won't ever play another game for Saints again. We need money for him, Newcastle/Everton for £1.5m. - The Lee signing just indicates our money problems. - Administration once Liebherrs see that the club won't go up. - Adkins is an awful manager, plays horrible hoofball. - 4,000+ free tickets a game, hence the reason why our attendances are so high. - Be lucky to make the play offs with the horrible standard of football we play.
Wes Tender Posted 6 January, 2012 Posted 6 January, 2012 My god that lot on "Pompey Fans Online" are the biggest bunch of retards on the net. - Lambert is 100% gone, won't ever play another game for Saints again. We need money for him, Newcastle/Everton for £1.5m. - The Lee signing just indicates our money problems. - Administration once Liebherrs see that the club won't go up. - Adkins is an awful manager, plays horrible hoofball. - 4,000+ free tickets a game, hence the reason why our attendances are so high. - Be lucky to make the play offs with the horrible standard of football we play. As you say, total and utter retards. For instance, if we were so tight for money, why would we give away 4000 free tickets a match to bolster attendances? They even manage to contradict one another, so thick are they. And bloody ineffective our style of play must be, for us to be top halfway through the season.
Foxstone Posted 6 January, 2012 Posted 6 January, 2012 (edited) Well, we should see in a couple of weeks if anyone's going to buy us or not, shouldn't we. I do like the "Bournemouth rejected them" line that's trotted out. Eddie MItchell rejected them because there wasn't enough in it for him, not from any moral superiority. Likewise the "people should look at another club" line you trot out. Who exactly? Bristol City kept getting mentioned as a better alternative but they've lost about £20m over the last couple of years and need a new ground. Which club should any potential buyer take on instead of Pompey for the price they can get us for? Anyway, glad to see you gay wavers still being so interested in us. You hypocritical, hand wringing bunch of ****s HaHa Storrie-Ho losing argument and getting defensive shocker !! Edited 6 January, 2012 by Jimmy_D fixing the swear filter
Saints foreva Posted 6 January, 2012 Posted 6 January, 2012 That's not rivalry, or even banter, it's just odd. Adkins is well known for playing good football, we've played outstanding passing football under him, and yet they come out with that? We give away free tickets yet I never get one!? Doubly annoying. In fact, we're the main saints forum, most our members like to go to games, MLG hates not knowing anything, yet we've all missed 4000 free tickets somewhere! Are they that desperate to find negatives? They could make up something more sensible couldn't they? But no, because signing a striker on big wages indicates we're in financial trouble. How would administration follow anyway? If the owners wanted to leave, they'd need to sell the club to someone, administration would have nothing to do with it. Weird lot. Get the impressive they'd find some negative if we signed Messi - 'shows they're absolutely broke, he won't fit into adkins rubbish football, they're just doing it as they're failing to give away the 4000th free ticket'?? As said a few posts ago, the only way forward for Pompey is to grow up and focus on their own club, build something to actually be proud of rather than lying to yourselves about your own situation and coming up with bizarre stuff about others. We're also ****ting ourselves about their new owners according to that lot. It's great how many Pompey fans on that forum are ITK when it comes to Saints.
Wes Tender Posted 6 January, 2012 Posted 6 January, 2012 We're also ****ting ourselves about their new owners according to that lot. It's great how many Pompey fans on that forum are ITK when it comes to Saints. Of course we're sh*tting ourselves about their new owners. It's going to be the real mafia, the Italian one. Any bad words published on here by us and revenge is a dish best served cold. I wouldn't want to end up in the Itchen wearing concrete boots, so as soon as they sign the deal, I'm changing my user name just in case.
The Cat Posted 6 January, 2012 Posted 6 January, 2012 #pompey have signed 17 year-old striker Dan Thompson from Conference South side Hampton and Richmond Borough and immediately loaned out to Havant & Waterlooville http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/pompey/pompey-past/great-matches/pompey_blasted_over_thompson_swoop_1_3396217 They are very unhappy with The Skates http://www.stainesguardian.co.uk/sport/9457377.Beavers_fume_over_Pompey_bound_Thompson_s_exit/ ‘For a club the size of Portsmouth , paying players tens of thousands of pounds a week not to even make a goodwill donation disappoints us and leaves a very bitter taste in the mouth. He must have been on schoolboy terms as he would have needed to be on these to play for England Schoolboys. Same situation as Fulham signing Chris Smalling from Maidstone. They did bung them £10k as a goodwill gesture and another £10k after he'd played 10 games (maybe in part becuase Roy Hodgson has links with Maidstone) before flogging him on for £10 million or whatever it was not long after. It's a ridiculous rule which shafts non-league clubs, but hey, who at the FA gives a flying crap about them?
Channon's Sideburns Posted 6 January, 2012 Posted 6 January, 2012 Just a thought, but wouldn't it be proper 'due diligence' for the new potential owners to view this thread?! As for our old mate HO HO, listen even Radio Solent couldn't manage 5 GOOD REASONS to buy your 'club' - let's face it, you don't own the ground, the land around it, or a training ground, so I'm sure Mr Deep Pockets is reaching down for £20M just to pay the bills. We got lucky with Markus, you didn't do your homework. 'SIMPLES'
holepuncture Posted 6 January, 2012 Posted 6 January, 2012 it's just odd. Are they that desperate to find negatives? They could make up something more sensible couldn't they? As said a few posts ago, the only way forward for Pompey is to grow up and focus on their own club, build something to actually be proud of rather than lying to yourselves about your own situation and coming up with bizarre stuff about others. Its little brother syndrome im afraid to say, and it is likely they will be behaving like this for the next 27 years or whatever. Petulance like that and they will end up with a twitch to rival old kind 'arry. Whilst we sit back and PMSL at the comedy goings on at Fratton, things that are true and happening and being reported in regional and national media outlets on a day to day basis, they have to resort to dreaming up things to try and compete. You have to feel a little sympathy for them perhaps, they know deep down they are dying slowly and painfully whilst we are prospering and ambitious and that must really hurt... its like their rusty old fiesta just siezed up and their big brother drives past in his convertible and didnt bother to stop or help, he just beeped and laughed on the way past... downtrodden and depressed and that outlook is set to last an entire generation... its harsh but it is the medicene they desperately need and desperately deserve. This thread is famous down at the peoples republic of portsea and it is wearing them down... for years now we have been nailing them for everything that is wrong with their club whilst they open their dumb and deluded arms to another gangster launderer - mugs! They can try and dream up nonsense or they can face the facts, read the truth and daily news articles about them through this magnificent thread whilst focusing attention on Moneyfields.
Joey-deacons-left-nut Posted 6 January, 2012 Posted 6 January, 2012 Who exactly? Bristol City kept getting mentioned as a better alternative but they've lost about £20m over the last couple of years and need a new ground. Which club should any potential buyer take on instead of Pompey for the price they can get us for? You mean a club that's lost £20 over a couple of years and needs a new ground, or one that's lost £120m over the past couple of years and needs a new ground?? You have no idea what you can be bought for. So far you've picked up from the papers that the FA want the £10.5m repaid as part of the deal, then you've got chinny, the CVA, the Administration £1.2m due, staged player payments... it's all mounting up again...not to mention an utterly pathetic 12k fans who turn up to your cess pit of a ground. If you were a dog you'd have been put down years ago.
Son of Dave Posted 6 January, 2012 Posted 6 January, 2012 Don't forget - jealousy is a cruel mistress. They don't have much to look forward to as their club circles the drain. It would be shame if it was'nt so deserved.
rallyboy Posted 6 January, 2012 Posted 6 January, 2012 Ho asked what club you could get for the same money. Blackburn Rovers. Premier league winning club with own ground went for £20M plus £20M of debt to address, and they still can't make the figures stack up with massive TV income, so they'll take an offer. That puts into context where investors are with pompey. Ouch said the Ho.... That free tickets thing is getting better, we were giving away 13,000 every game last time I heard Portsea pub myth no.74, and we didn't own the ground, the council were going to evict us for non-payment etc. I'm sure there are people posting crap on here about pompey , the difference being, if I said pompey are giving away 8,000 tickets a game or that Lampitt's grandfather ran a deathcamp I would be asked for a bottle of sauce. Over there it seems that any old myth dreamt up in a Paulsgrove bedroom is taken as gospel truth. I had a bloke assuring me a year ago that Cortese had already sold the club and had shafted everyone, we were heading back into administration and Lambert had agreed terms with pompey. Haven't bothered to speak with him since as his knowledge of football is obviously zero. Over to the deluded and simple east he'd been seen as ITK and carried aloft for his great insight - if there were enough left to carry him.
Ken Tone Posted 6 January, 2012 Posted 6 January, 2012 How long is it now since SSN and others quoted AA as saying the new owners would be known in 24-48 hours? ..about... ermmm ....72 hours?
Matthew Le God Posted 6 January, 2012 Posted 6 January, 2012 (edited) Which club should any potential buyer take on instead of Pompey for the price they can get us for? Bradford City - Better stadium than Fratton Park, larger city, similar number of home fans going to games with Pompey despite being in a League Two relegation fight Bristol City - Close(ish) to getting a new stadium, larger city Coventry City - New stadium already built, don't own it but could buy it cheaper than the cost of a new stadium Pompey need, larger city There are a number of others I could include in the list as better ways to spend money in a football club. None of them have a CVA to pay, Gaydamak/Chainrai in the background, Pompey don't own a training ground and have a possible points deduction looming. You have to question the motives of any "businessman" that chooses to invest in Pompey when there are better options available! Which is why Pompey have been passed from crook to crook since 1999. Edited 6 January, 2012 by Matthew Le God
Wade Garrett Posted 6 January, 2012 Posted 6 January, 2012 How long is it now since SSN and others quoted AA as saying the new owners would be known in 24-48 hours? ..about... ermmm ....72 hours? AA couldn't lie straight in bed.
solentstars Posted 6 January, 2012 Posted 6 January, 2012 Bradford City - Better stadium than Fratton Park, larger city, similar number of home fans going to games with Pompey despite being in a League Two relegation fight Bristol City - Close(ish) to getting a new stadium, larger city, own their training ground Coventry City - New stadium already built, don't own it but could by it cheaper than the cost of a new stadium Pompey need, bigger city You have to question the motives of any "businessman" that chooses to invest in Pompey when there are better options available.agree i just think aa is stringing the fans along and think this so called interest will not amount to anything and i read lots of tyrekickers drop out when they have got to put up the money.
Ken Tone Posted 6 January, 2012 Posted 6 January, 2012 agree i just think aa is stringing the fans along and think this so called interest will not amount to anything and i read lots of tyrekickers drop out when they have got to put up the money. Personally I think it is more about stringing the FL, and maybe the courts, along, in the hope of putting off a points deduction, or liquidation. "A points deduction will scare off the excellent buyers I have lined up and destroy the club"
pedg Posted 6 January, 2012 Posted 6 January, 2012 How long is it now since SSN and others quoted AA as saying the new owners would be known in 24-48 hours? ..about... ermmm ....72 hours? There is only one rule about "News on Friday".... there is never any news on Friday.
Chopper71 Posted 6 January, 2012 Posted 6 January, 2012 According to Ho, they are now a better proposition than when CSI cam riding into town. What a load of tosh! When CSI took over, they were already out of administation, had agreed a CVA and had got rid of a lot of the higher earners (Nugent, Brown etc). Since they've taken over it appears they have saddled the cesspit with yet more high earners that they have to pay for in instalments, failed to pay Chinny any money so the interest is racking up, and lent the company a further £10.8m that needs to be paid back. Given this, clearly they are a less attractive proposition (the only positive I'll give them is they managed to shift off SC, and might get lucky with his replacement). Now if the best they could attract when they were a better proposition than they are now was CSI, can anyone see any reason why anybody better is around the corner? I can't.
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