Pompey Takeover Saga

[Sevvy]

Ho,

 

I dont always agree with you on some things,but some times you make sense,

 

But dont you find it a bit strange that Limpett came from a really good job at the FA to go to Pompey, now is he there for a change / challenge or do you think he is ther for more sinister reasons

[saintjay77]

"The Best Fans in the World TM" are starting to revolt, oh dear. Some choice words from their own.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh dear, what a shame. Implosion.

 

And 12K on the gate at £9.50 a ticket, by their own admission. Truly, massive time :lol::lol:

 

Couple of things I noticed about that,

 

"Celebrity clown fan"? That how they think of their own bell ringing spokes person? (lol)

 

"nearly 2000 less than is needed to maintain the CVA payments"???? Maintain them? Really? Do they think they are actually serviceing the CVA yet? I mean with real payments?

 

I dont have anything against how low their attendance is, just think they need to be a bit more realistic with where they see themselves. League 1 with the odd bounce up to the Championship surly is a realistic target for a club with a fan base of that size. Spunking wedge loads of cash on trips to the prem like they have without the fan base to support it is a crazy business plan for any club.

 

But the ruskies have bought into a club to add it to their portfolio or something as corp keeps trotting out. Surley for a business that has ties with F1 and Isle of man TT they would only want top level club to add to their portfolio? So again, why pompey? A low championship to League 1 size club that has as much bad history as good cant look that great to anyone seeking ties with CSI? What do they expect to gain out of having Pompey on their books?

[EastleighSoulBoy]

I'm glad you agree with me on that score because many posters on here (Crabby and eastleigh Dole bOy among them) seem to use one quote taken from a Pompey messageboard and post it to show how all Pompey fans feel. It's ridiculous and something I keep saying (seemingly to no avail). the "****ing morons" comment was aimed at your many fans who believe there's a global cabal of football governing bodies taking bungs to allow CSI and Lampitt to launder money through the club. Would you not describe someone who believed that as a "****ing moron"? I struggle to find something more apt.

 

 

 

Poor crowd last night admittedly but read the quote properly. Only 500 tickets were at £9.50, not all of them. Everything else was full price.

 

 

 

I'm not saying it's "in hand". I said that the CVA says we need to average crowds of 14K to service it. You lot said we wouldn't get that last season but we did and we're pretty much doing it again this season. I think CSI will have to act on Cotterill though or the crowds will start to fall - Cotterball's not popular.

 

 

 

Nick Nack, no-one believes FIFA is clean but you're suggesting full on collusion between the PL, FA and FL not to mention UEFA and FIFA. Leavinga side the fact that the PL and the FL/ FA hate each other and would do anything to stitch each other up none of them would care if we were caught money laundering. In fact they'd probably be pleased as they could demonstrate how strictly they'd punish a team caught doing it. If they were going to cover up for a team it would be one of the big boys, not Pompey.

 

On the subject of your season tickets, we sold about 11- 12K that season if my memories correct

 

I don't think people are in any way thinking that the 'global cabal' of football is in hock to your club's wrongdoings. However, by the generally accepted thoughts that football is corrupt right to the very top, what they don't want is any chance of someone prising open the pandora's box that is football today. Your club, among others, present such an opportunity and where possible the top dogs in football will try to prevent that happening. Which is why I feel Lampitt was 'parachuted in', to keep a lid on things and hopefully ensure correct procedures were observed thereon in.

[Sevvy]

Couple of things I noticed about that,

 

"Celebrity clown fan"? That how they think of their own bell ringing spokes person? (lol)

 

"nearly 2000 less than is needed to maintain the CVA payments"???? Maintain them? Really? Do they think they are actually serviceing the CVA yet? I mean with real payments?

 

I dont have anything against how low their attendance is, just think they need to be a bit more realistic with where they see themselves. League 1 with the odd bounce up to the Championship surly is a realistic target for a club with a fan base of that size. Spunking wedge loads of cash on trips to the prem like they have without the fan base to support it is a crazy business plan for any club.

 

But the ruskies have bought into a club to add it to their portfolio or something as corp keeps trotting out. Surley for a business that has ties with F1 and Isle of man TT they would only want top level club to add to their portfolio? So again, why pompey? A low championship to League 1 size club that has as much bad history as good cant look that great to anyone seeking ties with CSI? What do they expect to gain out of having Pompey on their books?

 

A large car park around a new Tesco's

[dubai_phil]

In other news, Scientists in Cern are believed to now be close to solving the meaning of Life, the Universe and Everything.

 

Meanwhile it seems that producing the Forensic Accounts for pre admin Poorsmuff still appears to be beyond the combined wit of mankind.

[Joey-deacons-left-nut]

How they have managed to work out how many people need to attend a match for the club to break even, when the financials are surrounded in such fogginess is beyond me....

 

They may need 14k to turn up to break even, they may need 20k! Who knows really, but I'm sure time will tell

 

It's in the CVA document.

[for_heaven's_Saint]

Let's not forget those figures are based on full price tickets, not £9.50 or whatever they're charging.

[JackFrost]

anyone know what Cotterill said in his interview? (even if an educated guess can be made)

[miserableoldgit]

anyone know what Cotterill said in his interview? (even if an educated guess can be made)

Basically he said that they did enough to win but have got to take their chances. Forgot the bit about not letting in three goals though.

[70's Mike]

SO 12000, less 500 who paid £9.50, say 400 Peterboro, less season ticket holders.

Cash intake last night = not enough to pay floodlight bill( sorry forgot they do not pay bills)

[warsash saint]

Ho,

 

I dont always agree with you on some things,but some times you make sense,

 

But dont you find it a bit strange that Limpett came from a really good job at the FA to go to Pompey, now is he there for a change / challenge or do you think he is ther for more sinister reasons

 

Come on Corpy, please have a stab at answering this question

[mcjwills]

http://www.newsnow.co.uk/A/522384072?-11209

 

They are not happy with the Clot

 

Loved this reply

 

Ok, so what happens if the Board decide to sack Cotterill then? Can we realistically afford to? Unless we go down the historical route of not paying someone else to do it, how's it going to happen? Not being funny, but it won't have other managers fighting over it - let's face it, dwindling crowds, poor performances and the ever looming CVA doesn't paint a pretty picture does it? I sometimes wonder if this is karma for the supposed 'good years' coming back to bite us.

Edited 28 September, 2011 by mcjwills

[Corporate Ho]

Ho,

 

I dont always agree with you on some things,but some times you make sense,

 

But dont you find it a bit strange that Limpett came from a really good job at the FA to go to Pompey, now is he there for a change / challenge or do you think he is ther for more sinister reasons

 

Come on Corpy, please have a stab at answering this question

 

You are, of course, assuming he was doing a good job at the FA and that they were desperate to keep him. Assuming that he wasn't under pressure and needing to find another job when Chainrai saw an opportunity to install the perfect figurehead to front his CVA plan.

 

There are a couple of other whispers about Lampitt and why he might have taken the job but they're not going to get posted on a public forum and before you get excited don't relate in any way to some massive cover up. They're for far more personal reasons

[100%Red&White]

You are, of course, assuming he was doing a good job at the FA and that they were desperate to keep him. Assuming that he wasn't under pressure and needing to find another job when Chainrai saw an opportunity to install the perfect figurehead to front his CVA plan.

 

There are a couple of other whispers about Lampitt and why he might have taken the job but they're not going to get posted on a public forum and before you get excited don't relate in any way to some massive cover up. They're for far more personal reasons

 

How does it go Ho-Ho-Ho? "PMSL"

 

Ho-Ho-Ho-Ho-Ho-Ho-Ho-Ho-Ho-Ho.......................................................

[rallyboy]

a last gasp own goal by their great new signing in front of the entire population of Dale Farm is funny, but it does seem cruel to mock.

We might be on the wrong end of one of them soon (without the poor crowd) so I'm always reluctant to get too smug.

 

 

 

 

That said, I did hear the russian proclaiming that they bought pompey because they are the best football opportunity on the south coast.

This was at the same time as saying they are debt free with no tax issues......???

He must be mentally ill, only Gary Barlow and Louis Walsh would slag him off in that state.

 

 

But it's deluded stuff like that which makes last night's game extra funny.

They really should follow Ho's example, keep their heads down, quit bragging and take it on the chin.

[Nexstar]

If/when Cotterill gets the boot I can't wait to PMSL at the names touted around as a replacement.

 

Paul Hart strikes again maybe?

[Durleyfos]

Steve McLaren will soon be looking for a new job.

[anothersaintinsouthsea]

You are, of course, assuming he was doing a good job at the FA and that they were desperate to keep him. Assuming that he wasn't under pressure and needing to find another job when Chainrai saw an opportunity to install the perfect figurehead to front his CVA plan.

 

There are a couple of other whispers about Lampitt and why he might have taken the job but they're not going to get posted on a public forum and before you get excited don't relate in any way to some massive cover up. They're for far more personal reasons

 

Oh come on you tease, spill the beans or at least give us a clue.

[Fowllyd]

You are, of course, assuming he was doing a good job at the FA and that they were desperate to keep him. Assuming that he wasn't under pressure and needing to find another job when Chainrai saw an opportunity to install the perfect figurehead to front his CVA plan.

 

There are a couple of other whispers about Lampitt and why he might have taken the job but they're not going to get posted on a public forum and before you get excited don't relate in any way to some massive cover up. They're for far more personal reasons

 

Every now and then - and all too rarely - you post something which is both non-confrontational and sensible. This is one such example. It's certainly entirely plausible.

[holepuncture]

Poor holepuncture, always thinks he's being so clever and yet again posts something that's got mistakes in it.

 

1. We didn't play Hull on Saturday, we played Blackpool. And whilst the crowd wasn't massive it's more than we got against Reading and Cardiff when they brought sizeable followings. That means our gates are increasing. You're top of the league and your gates are getting smaller.

Anyway, maybe next time Holepuncture posts something he might manage a whole post with no errors in it. PMSL

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12,000 +

We be getting double that on Saturday!

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"nearly 2000 less than is needed to maintain the CVA payments"???? Maintain them? Really? Do they think they are actually serviceing the CVA yet? I mean with real payments?

But the ruskies have bought into a club to add it to their portfolio or something as corp keeps trotting out. Surley for a business that has ties with F1 and Isle of man TT they would only want top level club to add to their portfolio? So again, why pompey? A low championship to League 1 size club that has as much bad history as good cant look that great to anyone seeking ties with CSI? What do they expect to gain out of having Pompey on their books?

That is a very valid point and one perhaps we should debate further on this magnificent thread. Why would the Russian Mafia ‘invest’ (PMSL) in a football club that by even the most optimistic of men can only be seen as one hideous liability of financially suicidal proportions.

The stadium must be the biggest liability on the books, needing £130k just to get it past the health and safety line this year... and yet somehow the ARENA is classed as a £10m asset!!!???

How can a property that is supposed to accommodate 20K people be worth £10m and yet, by admission of its proud new mafia owners, not any bloody toilets!

There are a couple of other whispers about Lampitt and why he might have taken the job but they're not going to get posted on a public forum and before you get excited don't relate in any way to some massive cover up. They're for far more personal reasons

Uh, oh... The HO has been talking to his well placed source at the club, whom he sees socially every two weeks or so

 

Well, either Alan Pardew has been doing his wife, or he moved down for £1-a-pint night at the Registry as he certainly wouldn’t move down to footballs most publicised disease for extra references on his CV!

[Channon's Sideburns]

Loved this reply

 

Indeed - far to sensible to be a Skate.

[JackFrost]

Oh come on you tease, spill the beans or at least give us a clue.

 

if he did that's another 20,000 posts of hilarity for this thread guaranteed

[Weston Super Saint]

It's in the CVA document.

 

So is paying the creditors with actual real money, but we all know that hasn't started yet because they don't have any.

 

If the paying creditors money bit is wrong - which is the whole point of a CVA - then we can safely assume that the amount of people needed to show up in order to pay said money is also wrong

[Dark Munster]

If/when Cotterill gets the boot I can't wait to PMSL at the names touted around as a replacement.

 

Paul Hart strikes again maybe?

 

They can do better than Hart.

 

 

Come on Vladimir and Roman, you know it makes sense.

[sidthesquid]

Should have been their boycott, for all the pendantics out there

I think you'll find we're pedants, not pedantics........

[Dark Munster]

http://www.newsnow.co.uk/A/522384072?-11209

 

They are not happy with the Clot

 

Can anybody else see that losing at home to one of the worse teams in the div is not good enough !!. i for one want to see pompey move forward and strat playing football, the players are a good bunch and with s-cum comming up its time to bring in a decent manager !!! PUP

 

The few are getting nervous about their impending rogering in December. Poor dears.

 

 

 

anyone know what Cotterill said in his interview? (even if an educated guess can be made)

 

‘We didn’t deserve that – if we take our chances the game is out of sight, anyway.

‘There was one occasion where they must have had four or five fantastic blocks to stop us scoring.

 

[hutch]

I think you'll find we're pedants, not pedantics........

I nearly walked into that one. Thanks ESB.

[EastleighSoulBoy]

I nearly walked into that one. Thanks ESB.

 

I admit I laughed at Sid's riposte but was it tongue in cheek as it looks quite serious?

[Corporate Ho]

aThat said, I did hear the russian proclaiming that they bought pompey because they are the best football opportunity on the south coast.

This was at the same time as saying they are debt free with no tax issues......???

 

Depends how you define opportunity I guess. I mean, Brighton aren't exactly a great opportunity as they're not for sale, you may or may not be for sale but the Liebherr's will want to make a profit on what they've spent and you're running at a loss due to transfer fees and high wages (according to your accounts) so some might see you as an opportunity, some might not. Then there's Bournemouth who they looked at and maybe bid on (depending who you believe) but don't seem to offer great prospects for growth. Then there's us. Mid sized club, decent history a decent fanbase if you can get the set up right and the possibility to expand the stadium if you want to. That's a decent opportunity. As for the debt free and no tax issues, I assumed he meant that with the CVA in place there were no debts or tax issues they'd have to take on themselves as the CVA means those are self funding.

 

That is a very valid point and one perhaps we should debate further on this magnificent thread. Why would the Russian Mafia ‘invest’ (PMSL) in a football club that by even the most optimistic of men can only be seen as one hideous liability of financially suicidal proportions.

The stadium must be the biggest liability on the books, needing £130k just to get it past the health and safety line this year... and yet somehow the ARENA is classed as a £10m asset!!!???

How can a property that is supposed to accommodate 20K people be worth £10m and yet, by admission of its proud new mafia owners, not any bloody toilets!

 

Uh, oh... The HO has been talking to his well placed source at the club, whom he sees socially every two weeks or so

 

Well, either Alan Pardew has been doing his wife, or he moved down for £1-a-pint night at the Registry as he certainly wouldn’t move down to footballs most publicised disease for extra references on his CV!

 

As I said to Rallyboy above, maybe they see it as an opportunity. It's not cost them a massive amount of cash compared to what some clubs would cost and it fits in with their portfolio of sports companies within CSI. As for the value of the stadium, why would it be aliability? The value is based on the worth of the land. And are you REALLY that stupid to think there weren't toilets? probably the most appropriate time for me to reply with a PMSL.

 

As for Lampitt, there could be any number of reasons why he moved to Pompey. Why do people normally change jobs? Could be he was under pressure at his old job at the FA. Chainrai may have offered him more money than he was on. Maybe he has ambitions to be CEO at a PL club and sees this as a stepping stone to help him achieve that. Or maybe he's a giant shape shifting lizard who's laundering millions of pounds that you keep telling me CSI haven't got through PFC with the help of backhanders to everyone at the FA/ FL/ PL/ UEFA/ FIFA. Obviously the last possibility is the most likely because it's so believable

[holepuncture]

Then there's us. Mid sized club, decent history a decent fanbase if you can get the set up right and the possibility to expand the stadium if you want to. That's a decent opportunity. As for the debt free and no tax issues, I assumed he meant that with the CVA in place there were no debts or tax issues they'd have to take on themselves as the CVA means those are self funding.

 

Exuse me? I think you are mistaken for history of fraud and deciet on a global scale, combined with utterly pathetic support from the phew. PMSL

 

Now I know everyone is tired of the old attendence debate, however it is quite clear the russian mafia either didnt care or were mislead about 'the bestest fans in the landzzz ™'

 

So we have pompeys last away attendence of a few ****ing hundred (on a Saturday), against a few thousand of Saints on a Tuesday night, fresh from our away trip to Burnley where another thousand (maybe more) made the journey...

 

Skates, massive club... massive!

 

 

 

The value is based on the worth of the land. And are you REALLY that stupid to think there weren't toilets? probably the most appropriate time for me to reply with a PMSL.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14974664.stm

 

Well Mr Dubov quite clearly states in his PR extravaganza that 'over half a billion pounds was moving around the club yet it didnt have any toilets, this will not happen again...'

 

Are you questioning your owners now, they should know, they own the dump! They state it on national television, tax payer funded (excluding PFC) television, that the previous owners were so busy moving money around, they never got round to sorting the fish *****ers out with a sh*tter...

 

Nice that you acknowledge the clubs only value is based on the land which nottarf sits on. The only way that land has any value is without the dirty cheating skate bastards on it.

 

[Tamesaint]

you're running at a loss due to transfer fees

 

You Pompey boys are not very good with numbers and cash are you ?? I would like to know how transfer fees mean that we are running at a loss after just picking up £12 million (plus addons) for Alex.

 

Corp - you really are priceless. Are you really this stupid or are you pretending?

[rallyboy]

so the best opportunity on the south coast was actually the only opportunity as Brighton and Saints weren't for sale and Bmouth told them where to get off?

And the 'no tax issues' claim?

I think ongoing forensic investigations and club-related tax evasion charges might be considered issues worth mentioning....

So no, sorry Ho, the russian was talking cr+p.

 

And don't get taken in by the Portsea pub myths -

Cortese desperate to sell...

Scummers heading for administration...

They don't even own St Marys....

 

All the stuff that makes us laugh and makes many of the few look quite feebly-minded and easily taken in - see previous owners claims.

File them with the hilarious dock strike myth stolen from West Ham/Millwall, the shirt under the pitch that is claimed at every new ground without fail, Lambert to sign for pompey last summer, etc, etc, etc.

 

Our accounts look quite healthy from what I've seen, set up costs and the intitial squad rebuild post admin was expensive and would be a problem were we in League One.

Our five year plan is on course and might even be a year ahead of schedule at the mo.

So don't fret about our finances, concentrate on the car crash at your end of the M27.

Its between a Saab and a Spyker, and both have rolled their caravans.

[Wes Tender]

Then there's us. Mid sized club, decent history a decent fanbase if you can get the set up right and the possibility to expand the stadium if you want to. That's a decent opportunity. As for the debt free and no tax issues, I assumed he meant that with the CVA in place there were no debts or tax issues they'd have to take on themselves as the CVA means those are self funding.

 

Three mentions of the word decent in just two sentences! Are you attempting to imply by stealthy psychological subterfuge that the word decent can be applied to matters regarding your poxy, festering little cesspit of a club?

[anothersaintinsouthsea]

if you can get the set up right and the possibility to expand the stadium if you want to. That's a decent opportunity. As for the debt free and no tax issues

 

Much lolage. How many unsuccessful attempts have your shower made at either re-developing that dump or building a new ground in the last 20years. How many other clubs have made significant developments during that time? Saints, Leicester, Derby, West Ham, Chelsea, Man U, Newcastle, Sunderland, Middlesboro, DARLINGTON, MK Dons, CHESTERFIELD, NORTHAMPTON, Millwall, Arsenal, Man City, Plymouth, Shrewsbury, Blackburn, Bolton, COLCHESTER, OXFORD, WYCOMBE, S****HORPE, Wigan, BOURNEMOUTH, Brighton, Swansea, Cardiff, Hull, Charlton, Stoke, Coventry....

[Corporate Ho]

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/14974664.stm

 

Well Mr Dubov quite clearly states in his PR extravaganza that 'over half a billion pounds was moving around the club yet it didnt have any toilets, this will not happen again...'

 

Are you questioning your owners now, they should know, they own the dump! They state it on national television, tax payer funded (excluding PFC) television, that the previous owners were so busy moving money around, they never got round to sorting the fish *****ers out with a sh*tter...

 

Nice that you acknowledge the clubs only value is based on the land which nottarf sits on. The only way that land has any value is without the dirty cheating skate bastards on it.

 

Once again you seem not to be able to read clear English. It doesn't say there weren't toilets. The wording he uses is "proper toilets" which I assume he means they weren't of the best standard. However, if you're so keen to treat their word as gospel then Pompey fans should be in for a good time with them:

 

"We will put money into the academy and we want to improve the facilities, our training ground"

 

"We decided we'll be long-term investors, we don't want to sell the club - we have a five-year development plan. For us it's a long term investment"

 

"Our main goal is to give supporters confidence that we are stable owners and that we have the passion and money to support the club's long-term vision."

 

"Currently we're working on how to expand our territory around Fratton Park," Antonov said. "We'll do our best to buy this plot of land back to the club again."Dubov added: "[The ground] is a priority for us, right now we're doing some investigation and working with the lawyers, we're working on it."

 

Now, I was taking all that with a large pinch of salt but if you're telling me to believe it all because I shouldn't doubt them . . . .

 

You Pompey boys are not very good with numbers and cash are you ?? I would like to know how transfer fees mean that we are running at a loss after just picking up £12 million (plus addons) for Alex.

 

Corp - you really are priceless. Are you really this stupid or are you pretending?

 

Well, I'm basing what I said on your last set of accounts that were released that said, amongst other things:

 

Saints made a pre-interest and pre-tax loss of £7.76m in the year ending 30 June 2010. In virtually a year after Markus Liebherr rescued Saints from administration and wiped out its existing debt, it had wracked up a loss before player trading of £6.68m. The accounts also show that Saints lost £1.08m in player trading during the financial reporting period. It also reveals that they owe just over £7m to creditors in the next year and £14.68m after more than one year

 

Now, I know that's the season before last but as you didn't make anything substantial from transfers last season it seems safe to assume that your losses kept on rising at similar levels. You've pulled in a lot of money from the Chamberlain sale (whether it was all up front or in installments is another matter) but it was well publicised that your wage bill was very high compared to turnover in the year in question (85% of turnover according to the accounts) so while your gate money may have gone up it again seems safe to assume that your wage bill will have also. Some posters on here have acknowledged that you could be in financial problems but you simply don't know for sure. The accounts don't paint a great picture. tell me again why that makes me stupid

so the best opportunity on the south coast was actually the only opportunity as Brighton and Saints weren't for sale and Bmouth told them where to get off?

And the 'no tax issues' claim?

I think ongoing forensic investigations and club-related tax evasion charges might be considered issues worth mentioning....

So no, sorry Ho, the russian was talking cr+p.

 

And don't get taken in by the Portsea pub myths -

Cortese desperate to sell...

Scummers heading for administration...

They don't even own St Marys....

 

The forensic investigation "could" throw something up or it might not. There's no "issue" at the moment is there? Similarly with the court cases, only Storries relates to the club, not REdknapp and Mandaric's cases.

 

The story about you looking to sell isn't a Pompey rumour, it does the rounds quite regularly. How you would know it's not true unless you have access to the Liebherr family I don't know. Might be true, might not. Not sure where the heading for administration one comes from, not heard that not have I heard you don't own St Mary's. I saw one saying you don't own your training ground and that seems to be partly tru - don't you actually only lease half of it?

 

 

 

Much lolage. How many unsuccessful attempts have your shower made at either re-developing that dump or building a new ground in the last 20years. How many other clubs have made significant developments during that time? Saints, Leicester, Derby, West Ham, Chelsea, Man U, Newcastle, Sunderland, Middlesboro, DARLINGTON, MK Dons, CHESTERFIELD, NORTHAMPTON, Millwall, Arsenal, Man City, Plymouth, Shrewsbury, Blackburn, Bolton, COLCHESTER, OXFORD, WYCOMBE, S****HORPE, Wigan, BOURNEMOUTH, Brighton, Swansea, Cardiff, Hull, Charlton, Stoke, Coventry....

 

How many in the last 20 years? None really. We were ready to go with the Farlington scheme years ago until the Tories stopped it and then we've had the Gaydamak and Mandaric ideas but no real attempts. The point was the "opportunity" is there if they want to take it. Whether they will or not is another matter

[holepuncture]

How many in the last 20 years? None really. We were ready to go with the Farlington scheme years ago until the Tories stopped it and then we've had the Gaydamak and Mandaric ideas but no real attempts. The point was the "opportunity" is there if they want to take it. Whether they will or not is another matter

 

 

[Tamesaint]

tell me again why that makes me stupid

 

 

 

You are stupid because you say that we are running at a loss on transfer fees when we have just pocketed £12 million from Arsenal for Oxlade Chamberlain which is roughly double what we have paid out in total over the last 2 years.

 

You are stupid because you say that your gates are increasing when on Saturday you had 14,000 at fratton Park and on tuesday you had 12,000.

 

Do you understand now ?? Or are you just stupid ??

[anothersaintinsouthsea]

How many in the last 20 years? None really. We were ready to go with the Farlington scheme years ago until the Tories stopped it and then we've had the Gaydamak and Mandaric ideas but no real attempts. The point was the "opportunity" is there if they want to take it. Whether they will or not is another matter

 

FFS, sometimes you should do yourself a favour and just admit you've lost an argument. In fact, you saying that Gaydamak and Mandaric had ideas but no real attempts (let's ignore Mandick's lame JCB stunt shall we!) just supports my point. Despite being an established Premiership team and despite being owned by seemingly cash rich owners who were definitely interested in property development, a serious attempt at a major redevelopment/new ground was beyond poor old pompey. And now you are struggling in the second tier with a CVA to service you think you present a good opportunity for major redevelopment/new ground?! seriously? if the opportunity is good how come you've never come close to realising it before?

 

So far we've had Farlington (sorry, geese might get hurt), rotate Fratton + "Pompey Village" (lol), toilet bowl (LSD inspired), and Tipner (total cost best part of a billion lol). With each of the last three schemes you came on here telling us the latest rumour and dropped heavy hints that it would net the club loads of cash and make St Mary's look crap in comparison. Whenever we poo-pooed it you gave us lots of reasons why they could work. And yet you've still got a **** tip of a "stadium". Face it, unless you win the Euromillions rollover you've got feck all chance of a big development in the next two or three decades.

[Gingeletiss]

"We will put money into the academy and we want to improve the facilities, our training ground"/QUOTE]

 

Pray tell, what training ground do you refer to? as the one you train on, is not yours to put money into, unless of course you refer to the rent you owe/owed!

[Corporate Ho]

You are stupid because you say that we are running at a loss on transfer fees when we have just pocketed £12 million from Arsenal for Oxlade Chamberlain which is roughly double what we have paid out in total over the last 2 years.

 

You are stupid because you say that your gates are increasing when on Saturday you had 14,000 at fratton Park and on tuesday you had 12,000.

 

Do you understand now ?? Or are you just stupid ??

 

I said that you were running at a loss on transfer fees AND high wages (85% of turnover according to your last accounts published). Are YOU too stupid to understand written English? You made losses of £7m plus the year the accounts were for so add in losses for the following year (hard to see how you made a profit following losses of £7m) and you may just about have broken even by selling Chamberlain. Maybe. Before your high wage bill kicks into this years turnover.

 

As for our increasing gates, I posted that before Tuesday and the crowds before that game were (in ascending order)

 

13438 vs Reading

14354 vs Cardiff

14935 vs Blackpool.

 

Which seems to be increasing to me, not sure though, what do you think?

[S-Clarke]

I said that you were running at a loss on transfer fees AND high wages (85% of turnover according to your last accounts published). Are YOU too stupid to understand written English? You made losses of £7m plus the year the accounts were for so add in losses for the following year (hard to see how you made a profit following losses of £7m) and you may just about have broken even by selling Chamberlain. Maybe. Before your high wage bill kicks into this years turnover.

 

As for our increasing gates, I posted that before Tuesday and the crowds before that game were (in ascending order)

 

13438 vs Reading

14354 vs Cardiff

14935 vs Blackpool.

 

Which seems to be increasing to me, not sure though, what do you think?

 

Still pretty **** though isn't it? For the so called best supporters in the world ™

[View From The Top]

Strange how Ho was so full of sh*t when the stadium plans were mooted. Even suckered in, by his own admittance, by the JCB stunt.

 

Now, using revisionist methods, he never believed anything for a nano second.

 

Of course, we all believe him, with is record of honesty and accuracy.

[Weston Super Saint]

However, if you're so keen to treat their word as gospel then Pompey fans should be in for a good time with them:

 

"We will put money into the academy and we want to improve the facilities, our training ground"

 

Fpmsfl! If those words fill you with confidence, you must be more barmy than stinky clown boy! In case you haven't noticed, you don't actually have a training ground! How on earth it is possible to put money in and improve something that doesn't exist is beyond me!

 

By the way, some news to upset the apple cart. I received my 'stop' and warning list at work today. Guess who makes a brand new appearance, straight in at number one, for companies to supply to only with a proforma invoice? Yep, that's right, good old Pompey are back on the top of the league for non payers This new dawn didn't last long

[Tamesaint]

I said that you were running at a loss on transfer fees AND high wages (85% of turnover according to your last accounts published). Are YOU too stupid to understand written English? You made losses of £7m plus the year the accounts were for so add in losses for the following year (hard to see how you made a profit following losses of £7m) and you may just about have broken even by selling Chamberlain. Maybe. Before your high wage bill kicks into this years turnover.

 

As for our increasing gates, I posted that before Tuesday and the crowds before that game were (in ascending order)

 

13438 vs Reading

14354 vs Cardiff

14935 vs Blackpool.

 

Which seems to be increasing to me, not sure though, what do you think?

 

 

You are priceless aren't you. Do you really exist or are you just a made up comedy figure???

 

 

Why on earth did you include transfer fees in that sentence if you now acknowledge that the transfer fee that we received for AOC was double what we had spent in the last 2 years?? If transfer fees have not been overspent, why include them in that sentence?

 

 

You quote the attendances of 3 matches you have played this season ... but have conveniently forgotten the first home match of the season when you had an attendance of 16,496. Rather than Pompey's attendances increasing, it looks as if your attendances peaked at the start of the season and have been falling away ever since.

 

Like you (according to your wife / sister) Pompey's attendances have peaked too quickly!!

[Elmore]

...you may just about have broken even by selling Chamberlain. Maybe. Before your high wage bill kicks into this years turnover.

 

Increase in wages might be covered by the sponsorship deal we have this year (last year the club decided not to have any sponsorship), so that income stream is new and there is better television revenue in the Championship.

[simonsays]

the ho post 425571 today 11:04am

As for Lampitt, there could be any number of reasons why he moved to Pompey. Why do people normally change jobs? Could be he was under pressure at his old job at the FA. Chainrai may have offered him more money than he was on. Maybe he has ambitions to be CEO at a PL club and sees this as a stepping stone to help him achieve that. Or maybe he's a giant shape shifting lizard who's laundering millions of pounds that you keep telling me CSI haven't got through PFC with the help of backhanders to everyone at the FA/ FL/ PL/ UEFA/ FIFA. Obviously the last possibility is the most likely because it's so believable

 

 

the ho post 42555 yesterday 1:56pm

There are a couple of other whispers about Lampitt and why he might have taken the job but they're not going to get posted on a public forum and before you get excited don't relate in any way to some massive cover up. They're for far more personal reasons

 

What's it to be then STUPID?

 

Looking forward to your response.

That is, if you bother.

[View From The Top]

the ho post 425571 today 11:04am

As for Lampitt, there could be any number of reasons why he moved to Pompey. Why do people normally change jobs? Could be he was under pressure at his old job at the FA. Chainrai may have offered him more money than he was on. Maybe he has ambitions to be CEO at a PL club and sees this as a stepping stone to help him achieve that. Or maybe he's a giant shape shifting lizard who's laundering millions of pounds that you keep telling me CSI haven't got through PFC with the help of backhanders to everyone at the FA/ FL/ PL/ UEFA/ FIFA. Obviously the last possibility is the most likely because it's so believable

 

 

the ho post 42555 yesterday 1:56pm

There are a couple of other whispers about Lampitt and why he might have taken the job but they're not going to get posted on a public forum and before you get excited don't relate in any way to some massive cover up. They're for far more personal reasons

 

What's it to be then STUPID?

 

Looking forward to your response.

That is, if you bother.

 

Quality bit of owning.

[Saint Lindford]

 

How many in the last 20 years? None really. We were ready to go with the Farlington scheme years ago until the Tories stopped it and then we've had the Gaydamak and Mandaric ideas but no real attempts. The point was the "opportunity" is there if they want to take it. Whether they will or not is another matter

 

So apart from the Farlington proposal (where did those geese go?), the Tiper proposal which was actively debated on Pompey forums and the fish bowl on the Hard when the fake Sheik or Dr Dolittle were supposed to be in charge there has been nothing. Where is the artist impression of the great stadium that would have moved HMS Warrior and part of the Historic dockyard? PMSL. So the new 'owners' want to invest in a training ground that they don't own, invest in an acadamy that is probably 10 years behind Saints and at least 4 or 5 behind Brighton oh and invest in an 'arena' that can only attract 12,000 fans which is less than 5 teams in League One. Once again to quote you 'PMSL'.

[Torres]

Now, I know that's the season before last but as you didn't make anything substantial from transfers last season it seems safe to assume that your losses kept on rising at similar levels.

 

Maybe take a look at the players we bought between July 2009 and June 2010 and compare that those those we bought between July 2010 and June 2011 before you continue down this rather stupid line. Just a tip.

[saint si]

You quote the attendances of 3 matches you have played this season ... but have conveniently forgotten the first home match of the season when you had an attendance of 16,496. Rather than Pompey's attendances increasing, it looks as if your attendances peaked at the start of the season and have been falling away ever since.

 

By their own admission that staggering attendance for a local derby was swelled by the BHA following:

 

http://www.portsmouthfc.co.uk/LatestNews/news/Lampitt-Hails-Blues-Fans-2605.aspx

 

14,152 fans. Massive club.