saintjay77 Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 18925 H Birmingham City 17454 H Watford 17812 H Wolverhampton Wdrs 26580 H Nottingham Forest 20142 H Reading 17623 H Swansea City 18526 H Cardiff City 17567 H Derby County 18691 H Queens Park Rangers 27228 H Charlton Athletic 23220 H Crystal Palace 23927 H Burnley Also from the same season, you tw0t. Second home game against a local team bringing good support and you just beat our worst ever gate at SMS for a league game. That is how it is at a different level And that is with a season of boycotts and unrest amongst the fans and board room. If only we could be more like the Best Fans in the World or what ever it is. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickmick Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 I haven't checked all Corp Ho's attendance stats, but the Bristol City game was in March/April time and the attendance was about 22000. The figure he has given is probably Ashton gates attendance against us. Wheres MLG when you need him ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 LOL. Because last time you were in this division you had 30,000 for every game, didn't you. Might be a different story this season now you've (maybe) got a dead billionaire's money backing you but last time your average crowd was a massive 17,800 and that was skewed by a massive free ticket giveaway for the last few games of the season. If you're laughing at our paltry 13,600 last nigth I assume you'll find these attendences from from your 2008/9 campaign at the St mary's enormodome truly side splitting. 30th Aug vs Blackpool – 15,629 17th Sep vs Ipswich – 14,916 20th Sep vs Barnsley – 14,836 30th Sep vs Norwich – 14,480 28th Oct vs Coventry – 14,226 8th Nov vs Bristol City – 14,535 6th Dec vs Sheff Weds – 15,440 17th Jan vs Doncaster – 15,837 3rd Feb vs Sheff Utd – 13,257 21st Feb vs Preston – 14,790 Laugh at Pompey, your support was at the same level. Go on, tell me how different it was for you All but one of those attendences are still bigger than yours the other night. The Sheff Utd game I believe is was snowing and most games were called off? How many of those games did the away fans bring over 2000? We had a lot of protests outside the ground during games. There we go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 I haven't checked all Corp Ho's attendance stats, but the Bristol City game was in March/April time and the attendance was about 22000. The figure he has given is probably Ashton gates attendance against us. Wheres MLG when you need him ? It was 14,535 in November, but 17.20 ko so I guess it was televised. We lost 1-0. It's all on the OS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 (edited) Lets play a game! Spot when Rupert Lowe left, the club went into administration and relegation to League One was (more or less) confirmed...? 2008/09 3rd Feb Sheff Utd 13,257 21st Feb Preston 14,790 28th Feb Cardiff 18,526 10th Mar Derby 17,567 14th Mar QPR 18,691 4th April Charlton 27,228 13th April Palace 23,220 23th April Burnley 23,927 Still think there was no protest Corporate Ho? When Pompey went into admin in the league above the crowds plummeted to 16k (or 14k home fans) at Fratton Park, whilst playing Premier League teams in a 20k stadium! After administration, Pompey in the Premier League...! vs Hull 16,513 vs Blackburn 16,207 vs Aston Villa 16,523 Even a game against Chelsea only saw roughly 16k Pompey fans in a crowd of 18,753! I don't know why you and other Pompey fans think Saints have had "it easy" and only a short period of trouble. From 2004 to 2009 the club was in a total mess. That is quite a long period! Edited 18 August, 2011 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirleysfc Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 Bless, you try so hard, you really do but you're just so rubbish at it. Never mind, the billionaire you told us all about will soon be there to help you. Is that the German one? Or the Russian one? or the Chinese one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 Lets play a game! Spot when Rupert Lowe left, the club went into administration and relegation to League One was (more or less) confirmed...? 2008/09 3rd Feb Sheff Utd 13,257 21st Feb Preston 14,790 28th Feb Cardiff 18,526 10th Mar Derby 17,567 14th Mar QPR 18,691 4th April Charlton 27,228 13th April Palace 23,220 23th April Burnley 23,927 Still think there was no protest Corporate Ho? When Pompey went into admin in the league above the crowds plummeted to 16k (or 14k home fans) at Fratton Park, whilst playing Premier League teams in a 20k stadium! After administration, Pompey in the Premier League...! vs Hull 16,513 vs Blackburn 16,207 vs Aston Villa 16,523 Even a game against Chelsea only saw roughly 16k Pompey fans in a crowd of 18,753! I don't know why you and other Pompey fans think Saints have had "it easy" and only a short period of trouble. From 2004 to 2009 the club was in a total mess. That is quite a long period! Corpy torn a new one by TSW's top Pedant! Much lolage! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Golden Balls Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 Lets play a game! Spot when Rupert Lowe left, the club went into administration and relegation to League One was (more or less) confirmed...? 2008/09 3rd Feb Sheff Utd 13,257 21st Feb Preston 14,790 28th Feb Cardiff 18,526 10th Mar Derby 17,567 14th Mar QPR 18,691 4th April Charlton 27,228 13th April Palace 23,220 23th April Burnley 23,927 Still think there was no protest Corporate Ho? When Pompey went into admin in the league above the crowds plummeted to 16k (or 14k home fans) at Fratton Park, whilst playing Premier League teams in a 20k stadium! After administration, Pompey in the Premier League...! vs Hull 16,513 vs Blackburn 16,207 vs Aston Villa 16,523 Even a game against Chelsea only saw roughly 16k Pompey fans in a crowd of 18,753! I don't know why you and other Pompey fans think Saints have had "it easy" and only a short period of trouble. From 2004 to 2009 the club was in a total mess. That is quite a long period! This forum should have a 'like' button like Facebook. This post would receive many many 'likes' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 TBH... WTF? Why Are grown men still having this 'my cock's bigger than your cock' ******? Who gives a ****? EVERYONE knows that attendences at ALL clubs fluctuate depending on the division, form, economic climate, weather, time of year, and general positivity about teh club, teh buzz etc... afterall for many if things are hopelessly shiedt, its ****ing with rain, and you are skint after a summer hols or christmas excess... some things have to give... its not rocket science. This whole infantile facination in football with the 'size' of ones club is frankly idiotic, pathetic and illustrative of blokes with small tadgers needing something 'big' to hang their ego on... who really gives a flying feck? You could take any L2 side from a city where there are say 250,000 + inhabitants, give them a 35000 seater stadium and if promoted to the prem they woudl fill it if ticket prices were not stupid - people liek to be associated with success which is why half the fecking country supports Man U/Chelski from the armchair. Get a fecking life - I dont give a flying feck how many attend our or pompeys games - Judge the club by the way they are run and the way they play the game - buying success on credit or 'cheating' is the thing I hate most...followed closely by those clubs like Man City who are following Chelski down the same stupid wage/transfer buying of success - as Pompey attempted a few seasons ago... but without the the rich Billionnaire actually donating the cash. Looking at our books, i for one am glad we have NOT gone stupid in either the transfer or wage brackets despite having the clout to do so.... are Leicester the next club to go back into admin if they fail this year? .. for the umpteenth time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevvy Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 TBH... WTF? Why Are grown men still having this 'my cock's bigger than your cock' ******? Who gives a ****? EVERYONE knows that attendences at ALL clubs fluctuate depending on the division, form, economic climate, weather, time of year, and general positivity about teh club, teh buzz etc... afterall for many if things are hopelessly shiedt, its ****ing with rain, and you are skint after a summer hols or christmas excess... some things have to give... its not rocket science. This whole infantile facination in football with the 'size' of ones club is frankly idiotic, pathetic and illustrative of blokes with small tadgers needing something 'big' to hang their ego on... who really gives a flying feck? You could take any L2 side from a city where there are say 250,000 + inhabitants, give them a 35000 seater stadium and if promoted to the prem they woudl fill it if ticket prices were not stupid - people liek to be associated with success which is why half the fecking country supports Man U/Chelski from the armchair. Get a fecking life - I dont give a flying feck how many attend our or pompeys games - Judge the club by the way they are run and the way they play the game - buying success on credit or 'cheating' is the thing I hate most...followed closely by those clubs like Man City who are following Chelski down the same stupid wage/transfer buying of success - as Pompey attempted a few seasons ago... but without the the rich Billionnaire actually donating the cash. Looking at our books, i for one am glad we have NOT gone stupid in either the transfer or wage brackets despite having the clout to do so.... are Leicester the next club to go back into admin if they fail this year? .. for the umpteenth time? Spot on. FC, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corporate Ho Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 Why do you bring up the 'dead' billionaire? We have his family's money, he can't own money when he's dead, it was passed on. It's as if you revel in the fact he died. i hope I'm wrong. i thought you couldn't get scummier but that would definitely do it. I'm not revelling in it at all. My point was that maybe you have Liebherr's money and maybe you don't. His will's going through probate and there are plenty of rumours out that that his daughter's looking to sell you. Hence the "maybe" and the reference to him being dead. So many eloquent posts attacking Corpy. Guys if you want to upset him just type 4 letters in the right order. Works every time BAAS if you need a hint as to which ones to pick Upset me? LOL. Phil, you're the one who made himself look a complete idiot by inferring on here with your "insider knowledge" that Antonov was going to use the EIB loan to SAAB to fund Pompey. If only you'd realised that he hadn't actually managed to buy into SAAB. Tell us again how CSI have pulled out of the deal to buy us and are buying Bournemouth instead. 18925 H Birmingham City 17454 H Watford 17812 H Wolverhampton Wdrs 26580 H Nottingham Forest 20142 H Reading 17623 H Swansea City 18526 H Cardiff City 17567 H Derby County 18691 H Queens Park Rangers 27228 H Charlton Athletic 23220 H Crystal Palace 23927 H Burnley Also from the same season, you tw0t. Second home game against a local team bringing good support and you just beat our worst ever gate at SMS for a league game. That is how it is at a different level Oh, OK. So there wasn't a boycott that season then? Lets play a game! Spot when Rupert Lowe left, the club went into administration and relegation to League One was (more or less) confirmed...? 2008/09 3rd Feb Sheff Utd 13,257 21st Feb Preston 14,790 28th Feb Cardiff 18,526 10th Mar Derby 17,567 14th Mar QPR 18,691 4th April Charlton 27,228 13th April Palace 23,220 23th April Burnley 23,927 Still think there was no protest Corporate Ho?I don't know why you and other Pompey fans think Saints have had "it easy" and only a short period of trouble. From 2004 to 2009 the club was in a total mess. That is quite a long period! But there were big crowds for the two Xmas games and Lowe was still there then - or did he temporarily step down for the festive period? Did Paul McCartney make a video about it with your fans and Lowe's chums having a game of soccer in the St Mary's car park, only for the rest of the season to have to kick in and see you both trotting off to different areas of the ground? What happened to the boycott at Xmas? As for your club being a mess for a couple of seasons, Pompey have had chaos surrounding the club pretty much since I started supporting them in the late '70's. You lot have no idea how that can affect a club's support. Even when Mandaric was there it was the same so don't bother trying to play that card. As for us having new owners meaning that should see supporters flocking back to the ground - how many new owners have we had recently? And the "fourth biggest spenders" tag doesn't mean much when we still don't have a squad does it? Your club dropped down and as asoon as you started to slip down the league your gates dropped. It's natural, it happens. Stop trying to make excuses for it. Tell me what this mythical boycott was protesting against? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaMarlin Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 "Are Leicester the next club to go back into admin if they fail this year? .. for the umpteenth time?" Fail or go into admin for the umpteenth time? Let's not forget it was Leicester's shameful actions when they went into adminstration that wrought the introduction of the 10-point deduction rule. A quick re-cap: Leciester went into admin in 2002 with debts of £30m (chicken feed compared to some clubs who shall be nameless) which gave them protection from their creditors, and more importantly, allowed them to keep all their players, so that when Gary Lineker's consortium took over, they won promotion back to the PL. Other clubs complained they had an unfair playing advantage, hence the introduction of the 10-pont rule. Some clubs have learned that lesson and taken it on board. Others haven't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack rill Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 "Are Leicester the next club to go back into admin if they fail this year? .. for the umpteenth time?" Fail or go into admin for the umpteenth time? Let's not forget it was Leicester's shameful actions when they went into adminstration that wrought the introduction of the 10-point deduction rule. A quick re-cap: Leciester went into admin in 2002 with debts of £30m (chicken feed compared to some clubs who shall be nameless) which gave them protection from their creditors, and more importantly, allowed them to keep all their players, so that when Gary Lineker's consortium took over, they won promotion back to the PL. Other clubs complained they had an unfair playing advantage, hence the introduction of the 10-pont rule. Some clubs have learned that lesson and taken it on board. Others haven't. Hmmmm I'm struggling to think what other club you could be on about,,,,Gizzz us a clue, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 TBH... WTF? Why Are grown men still having this 'my cock's bigger than your cock' ******? Who gives a ****? EVERYONE knows that attendences at ALL clubs fluctuate depending on the division, form, economic climate, weather, time of year, and general positivity about teh club, teh buzz etc... afterall for many if things are hopelessly shiedt, its ****ing with rain, and you are skint after a summer hols or christmas excess... some things have to give... its not rocket science. This whole infantile facination in football with the 'size' of ones club is frankly idiotic, pathetic and illustrative of blokes with small tadgers needing something 'big' to hang their ego on... who really gives a flying feck? You could take any L2 side from a city where there are say 250,000 + inhabitants, give them a 35000 seater stadium and if promoted to the prem they woudl fill it if ticket prices were not stupid - people liek to be associated with success which is why half the fecking country supports Man U/Chelski from the armchair. Get a fecking life - I dont give a flying feck how many attend our or pompeys games - Judge the club by the way they are run and the way they play the game - buying success on credit or 'cheating' is the thing I hate most...followed closely by those clubs like Man City who are following Chelski down the same stupid wage/transfer buying of success - as Pompey attempted a few seasons ago... but without the the rich Billionnaire actually donating the cash. Looking at our books, i for one am glad we have NOT gone stupid in either the transfer or wage brackets despite having the clout to do so.... are Leicester the next club to go back into admin if they fail this year? .. for the umpteenth time? Steady on old bean, in the absense of Muchio LOL'age coming from the Blue few Corpy decided to point out a few erm errors in our points of differences between the clubs. Who are we to not at least correct or answer his statements? The court cases will finish at some point which will see normal service resume on here as hopefully the proof of the cheating will come out and everyone will see their club for what it is. Once out in the open they might actually start trying to behave correctly and become a respected club. Wouldnt that be amazing??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 Can the Mods find out who was posting as FC as Ive never seen so many swear words in his (usually) lengthy tomes. However, the real give-away, was the constant use of "the", rather than "teh". OUT damn imposter. OUT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 I'm not revelling in it at all. My point was that maybe you have Liebherr's money and maybe you don't. His will's going through probate and there are plenty of rumours out that that his daughter's looking to sell you. Hence the "maybe" and the reference to him being dead. Really...? As you would say, 'link please'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 Really...? As you would say, 'link please'? He won't be able to find anything and some glib reference to the main board is his usual response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 Hmmmm I'm struggling to think what other club you could be on about,,,,Gizzz us a clue, Na your right Mack, there was something fishy out that post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjsaint Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 Perhaps we are being a tad unfair on the Skates. On one hand we wonder how they can continue to blindly support such a corrupt club, on the other we laugh at them for low attendance rates. I for one applaud P*mpey for their dwindling attendance. It may be mostly down to their FA cup-era glory hunting hangers-on growing tired of Championship football, but perhaps some of the less primitive among the blue few are finally waking up to the overpowering stench of legal and moral corruption hanging over Fratton Park. May the blue few continue to become even fewer. It speaks well of Portsmouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 Steady on old bean, in the absense of Muchio LOL'age coming from the Blue few Corpy decided to point out a few erm errors in our points of differences between the clubs. Who are we to not at least correct or answer his statements? The court cases will finish at some point which will see normal service resume on here as hopefully the proof of the cheating will come out and everyone will see their club for what it is. Once out in the open they might actually start trying to behave correctly and become a respected club. Wouldnt that be amazing??? Thing is as much as I enjoy a good wind up of the blue few (liek any self respecting Saints fan) and that there can be no argument against the fact that however 120 mil of debt was accumulated, ultimately the fact that that it was allowed to through excessive and unaffordable transfers and wgaes is in effect cheating... I would also like to undrstand the TRUTH or FACTS of the case (m'Lord)... without going back through a million posts, it has been indicated by some of the Blew Hugh (sic) that they have no idea how this debt accumulated as they were selling so many players and this money has dissappeared? That they had no knowledge of this and no control over such boardroom antics is their case for the defence... uHm, well my question to the defendents would be something along the lines of... 'Did those fans travelling to Wembley on not think it a little strange that their club was indeed purchasing internationals on wages in excess of 80k a week on a 20k gate and small local sponsor - when there had been no indication of any monies being 'donated' to the club by its owners - at a time when it was being reported in the press that the club already had debts in excess of 30 mil and had failed to pay the tax man? Where was the supporter outrage when in the knowledge that 'arry had storieteller had committed the club to contracts they siumply could not afford? Or like 'arry was it fine to pretend they had no knowledge of the situation - when even the a small scrotal crab currently in residence on teh left testical of the most stupidest of all stupid men could clearly see a club with a 20K gate had no business making those kind of signings... not once but many many times...?' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 A joke, surely http://http://www.fishdating.co.uk/singlescatch?utm_source=google&utm_campaign=fish+dating+picture728x90-001&utm_term=dating%20uk&gclid=CPekx9W12aoCFcRO4QodPVFj7w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 (edited) I'm not revelling in it at all. My point was that maybe you have Liebherr's money and maybe you don't. His will's going through probate and there are plenty of rumours out that that his daughter's looking to sell you. Hence the "maybe" and the reference to him being dead. Upset me? LOL. Phil, you're the one who made himself look a complete idiot by inferring on here with your "insider knowledge" that Antonov was going to use the EIB loan to SAAB to fund Pompey. If only you'd realised that he hadn't actually managed to buy into SAAB. Tell us again how CSI have pulled out of the deal to buy us and are buying Bournemouth instead. Oh, OK. So there wasn't a boycott that season then? But there were big crowds for the two Xmas games and Lowe was still there then - or did he temporarily step down for the festive period? Did Paul McCartney make a video about it with your fans and Lowe's chums having a game of soccer in the St Mary's car park, only for the rest of the season to have to kick in and see you both trotting off to different areas of the ground? What happened to the boycott at Xmas? As for your club being a mess for a couple of seasons, Pompey have had chaos surrounding the club pretty much since I started supporting them in the late '70's. You lot have no idea how that can affect a club's support. Even when Mandaric was there it was the same so don't bother trying to play that card. As for us having new owners meaning that should see supporters flocking back to the ground - how many new owners have we had recently? And the "fourth biggest spenders" tag doesn't mean much when we still don't have a squad does it? Your club dropped down and as asoon as you started to slip down the league your gates dropped. It's natural, it happens. Stop trying to make excuses for it. Tell me what this mythical boycott was protesting against? You've just your illustrated your ignorance in one foul swoop there. And please explain how a boycott, described as a "boycott" by Sky, BBC, the local media, the newspapers, the club and the fans, backed up by a massive dip in attendances is "mythical"? Maybe you could get Javier Saviola or Diego Maradona could answer that one. . . Edited 18 August, 2011 by JackFrost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 (edited) Oh, OK. So there wasn't a boycott that season then? Tell me what this mythical boycott was protesting against? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hampshire/7862734.stm The beginnings of the protests against Lowe. I don't know why I'm bothering, this whole argument from both sides is a bit pointless. But this was one of the earlier protests which then led on to boycotts of home games, that's just a fact. Edit: Might also want to read this article from the Daily Echo: http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/4066097.One_fan_s_despair_for_club_he_loves/ about a season ticket holder encouraging fans to boycott the next home game. Edited 18 August, 2011 by The Kraken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 How is the transfer dealings to pay the CVA going by the way? I see another £1.4m is just waiting a sign-off and international clearance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidthesquid Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 Oh, OK. So there wasn't a boycott that season then? There was and our crowds were still way bigger than yours. Next argument please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 (edited) Lets go back to Vlad and SAAB, the EIB have reconfirmed in the past fortnight that Vlad can't take control of SAAB because hes not a Fit And Proper Person. http://www.thelocal.se/35226/20110729/ So how did he get control of a football club? Oh wait......yeah.... Edited 18 August, 2011 by gaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 Lets go back to Vlad and SAAB, the EIB have reconfirmed in the past fortnight that Vlad can't take control of SAAB because hes not a Fit And Proper Person. http://www.thelocal.se/35226/20110729/ So how did he get control of a football club? Oh wait......yeah.... Careful Gaz, you know who will claim it's all another conspiracy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 Why does Ho bother? What a flawed personality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 Perhaps we are being a tad unfair on the Skates. On one hand we wonder how they can continue to blindly support such a corrupt club, on the other we laugh at them for low attendance rates. I for one applaud P*mpey for their dwindling attendance. It may be mostly down to their FA cup-era glory hunting hangers-on growing tired of Championship football, but perhaps some of the less primitive among the blue few are finally waking up to the overpowering stench of legal and moral corruption hanging over Fratton Park. May the blue few continue to become even fewer. It speaks well of Portsmouth. they are charging top dollar to watch a load of ****. As much as we dislike them, they clearly have plenty of fans not willing to be taken for total mugs. Fair play to them. It's tough to stop going, but everyone has their limits. We had plenty that stopped going when things got really bad so I don't see much difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 so Ho is in protest-denial despite press coverage and facts, yet tries to sell us another pompey pub myth - the club is for sale. Bearing in mind Cortese doesn't even tell his missus if he is interested in signing a player, please tell us Mr Ho, what is your reliable source for this piece of business news? Do tell, we are like Gareth Bale, all ears..... Is it the same cross-eyed, sister-bothering, dentist-dodging pub simpleton that brought us great favoutites like the SS tank commander, the dock strike, scummers don't own their ground, the 2 for 1 unemployed tickets at St Marys, the Lambert to pompey close season transfer perhaps? Endless drivel thought up by the dim, for the dim. No matter what rubbish is peddled over that way as fact, or whoever had protests or didnt, there is only one way to judge who is the top team in Hampshire and you are now on the wrong end of the league table, so just like Avram's favourite leisure centre assistant - take it on the chin. We had six years accepting we were in that position on merit. We deserved to be playing Dagenham etc, the table doesn't lie. It may be different in a month or two, but today it shows that we are the top team in Hampshire. Let the tiresome attendance argument end there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 18 August, 2011 Share Posted 18 August, 2011 But there were big crowds for the two Xmas games and Lowe was still there then - or did he temporarily step down for the festive period? Did Paul McCartney make a video about it with your fans and Lowe's chums having a game of soccer in the St Mary's car park, only for the rest of the season to have to kick in and see you both trotting off to different areas of the ground? What happened to the boycott at Xmas? I know this may sound a bit complicated, so you'd better make sure that you are sitting down, in case your head gets dizzy with all the facts. Maybe, just maybe, the increase in attendance during Christmas was due to an increase from our populace who were not regular attenders and were not partaking in the said boycott, and those that were boycotting actually continued to stay away? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corporate Ho Posted 19 August, 2011 Share Posted 19 August, 2011 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hampshire/7862734.stm The beginnings of the protests against Lowe. I don't know why I'm bothering, this whole argument from both sides is a bit pointless. But this was one of the earlier protests which then led on to boycotts of home games, that's just a fact. Edit: Might also want to read this article from the Daily Echo: http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/4066097.One_fan_s_despair_for_club_he_loves/ about a season ticket holder encouraging fans to boycott the next home game. Interesting. So the "beginnings of the protests against Lowe" were in January according to the date of the link you posted. So how does that explain the sub 15K crowds you'd been getting up until then? As for the one man boycott, the replies to the Echo article by your own fans seem overwhelmingly to be against a boycott, saying you should all attend and get behind the team I'll ask again as no-one's answered my question - what were the boycotts and the protests against? Lets go back to Vlad and SAAB, the EIB have reconfirmed in the past fortnight that Vlad can't take control of SAAB because hes not a Fit And Proper Person. http://www.thelocal.se/35226/20110729/ So how did he get control of a football club? Oh wait......yeah.... Because the fit and proper person test to take over a football club is based on whether a person has been convicted of any wrong doing. Antonov and Dubov have never been convicted of anything. You seem to find it hard to grasp the concept Careful Gaz, you know who will claim it's all another conspiracy Who? Which one of your fans are you talking about here? I hope you didn't mean me as it's you lot who are the ones who keep pushing the conspiracy angles so Ho is in protest-denial despite press coverage and facts, yet tries to sell us another pompey pub myth - the club is for sale. Bearing in mind Cortese doesn't even tell his missus if he is interested in signing a player, please tell us Mr Ho, what is your reliable source for this piece of business news? We had six years accepting we were in that position on merit. We deserved to be playing Dagenham etc, the table doesn't lie. It's not business news, as I said it's rumours. The national press all reported it a while back and quite a few papers on the continent have mentioned it too. Whether it's true or not I have no idea. That's why I said it was a rumour. As for you lot "taking it on the chin" is that why you were all protesting and boycotting? LOL they are charging top dollar to watch a load of ****. As much as we dislike them, they clearly have plenty of fans not willing to be taken for total mugs. Fair play to them. It's tough to stop going, but everyone has their limits. We had plenty that stopped going when things got really bad so I don't see much difference. Thanks Chez. Good to see a bit of balance on here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 19 August, 2011 Share Posted 19 August, 2011 when is riquleme coming to the south coast...? any chance of another one of your famous transfer target updates...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_saints Posted 19 August, 2011 Share Posted 19 August, 2011 Is Maradona your manager yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torres Posted 19 August, 2011 Share Posted 19 August, 2011 It's not business news, as I said it's rumours. Paedophiles have more genes in common with crabs than they do with you and me— there's no real evidence for it — but it is scientific fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corporate Ho Posted 19 August, 2011 Share Posted 19 August, 2011 Paedophiles have more genes in common with crabs than they do with you and me— there's no real evidence for it — but it is scientific fact. I like Brass Eye too Torro but again, what has that to do with your boycott/ protests? What were you protesting against? Simple question to answer, surely? I'm going to be busy until early afternoon now so maybe that will give you all time to come up with the answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 19 August, 2011 Share Posted 19 August, 2011 Who? Which one of your fans are you talking about here? I hope you didn't mean me as it's you lot who are the ones who keep pushing the conspiracy angles Corp Ho ho ho, before you comfirm via your close contacts at the club, that you have in fact signed Erik Huseklepp for a reported fee of 2 million pounds, on a reported 16k a week, could you tell us 'conspirital' stripies, have you settled all the oustanding debts owed to local charities yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 19 August, 2011 Share Posted 19 August, 2011 Interesting. So the "beginnings of the protests against Lowe" were in January according to the date of the link you posted. So how does that explain the sub 15K crowds you'd been getting up until then? As for the one man boycott, the replies to the Echo article by your own fans seem overwhelmingly to be against a boycott, saying you should all attend and get behind the team I'll ask again as no-one's answered my question - what were the boycotts and the protests against? Because the fit and proper person test to take over a football club is based on whether a person has been convicted of any wrong doing. Antonov and Dubov have never been convicted of anything. You seem to find it hard to grasp the concept Who? Which one of your fans are you talking about here? I hope you didn't mean me as it's you lot who are the ones who keep pushing the conspiracy angles It's not business news, as I said it's rumours. The national press all reported it a while back and quite a few papers on the continent have mentioned it too. Whether it's true or not I have no idea. That's why I said it was a rumour. As for you lot "taking it on the chin" is that why you were all protesting and boycotting? LOL Thanks Chez. Good to see a bit of balance on here this was not the first boycott, and there was real discontent and division. I dont know when the publicised boycott started but it was there for a long time before the lad organised a march. I spent years debating about Lowe and co. Our fans have boycotted before the Lowe era, if you want to really get your tissues out go back to when Branfoot was manager and the fans boycotted then. i think we had a crowd of 11k at that time. Your fans are not boycotting, they are JCLs and only joined in when you were buying top internationals and you were a PL club. You were a backwater club for decades and only in the last few years when the dodgy owners came in have you raised your profile. I still believe you will do ok this season as you still are paying high wages compared to your income.Saints have had a long time to build the fanbase and that is why we command big crowds, had you stayed in the top division for decades you may well have the bigger fanbase, it didnt happen and we took over and built on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 19 August, 2011 Share Posted 19 August, 2011 Corp. I am getting really bored with this all now. Let me give you my considered take on this. I think that the main reason for our feeling toward you lot from down the road is the, IMHO, undeserved reputation that you have gained for being "The Best Fans in the World". We know that that isn`t true and I suspect that most of you know it. Sadly, the media always jump on the bandwaggon and encourage the notion. That ( along with the fact that you did get away, whatever you say, with getting in debt to the tune of £120M) is what, I think, winds most of us up because we know that in general your lot are no better or worse than any other set of fans. True that you have possibly more than your fair share of deluded numptys who believe the hype and also true that you have a bigger fickle element than you would like to admit to. You have also been very unlucky/careless in your rogues gallery of owners, which hasn`t helped the image. This is why this thread has turned into a "My **** is Bigger Than Your ****" competition, which is all a bit pointless. I think that some sense of reality from some of your more gormless troglodytes (and yes, I know we have ours too!) would help to ease relations somewhat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Depressed of Shirley Posted 19 August, 2011 Share Posted 19 August, 2011 I like Brass Eye too Torro but again, what has that to do with your boycott/ protests? What were you protesting against? Simple question to answer, surely? I'm going to be busy until early afternoon now so maybe that will give you all time to come up with the answer What I protested about was that we were no longer even remotely trying to operate as a football club, we were trying to reduce outgoings. The team was incapable of competing in the league it was in because we had sold or loaned out anyone who could play at that level. Add to that a manager with less experience than the average schoolmaster, and many people, me included, did not think it was worth propping up Rupert lowe and Mike Wilde by buying tickets. I and others like me knew that the only way to rid our selves of Lowe was to stop going, and force the club into admin, or into the ownership of someone else. It was a gamble that could have had very serious consequences, but the alternative, in my mind was worse. When Lowe and Wilde were removed by the administrator, I started going to games again. None of this has any relevance to you lot, apart from the fact once again it underlines the different approaches each club took to going bust. One tried to balance the books and avoid it, the other just hoped it would go away. Now we are a football club again I and many others will accept good and bad times, and support it with ticket money, but I would stop going if we reverted to playing the Youth Team and charging £30 to watch again. We won't know if your fans are the same, because you have refused to play the youth team, preferring the has-been approach, and still the attendance drops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 19 August, 2011 Share Posted 19 August, 2011 pompey have the "best 11,000 fans in the world" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 19 August, 2011 Share Posted 19 August, 2011 What I protested about was that we were no longer even remotely trying to operate as a football club, we were trying to reduce outgoings. The team was incapable of competing in the league it was in because we had sold or loaned out anyone who could play at that level. Add to that a manager with less experience than the average schoolmaster, and many people, me included, did not think it was worth propping up Rupert lowe and Mike Wilde by buying tickets. I and others like me knew that the only way to rid our selves of Lowe was to stop going, and force the club into admin, or into the ownership of someone else. It was a gamble that could have had very serious consequences, but the alternative, in my mind was worse. When Lowe and Wilde were removed by the administrator, I started going to games again. None of this has any relevance to you lot, apart from the fact once again it underlines the different approaches each club took to going bust. One tried to balance the books and avoid it, the other just hoped it would go away. Now we are a football club again I and many others will accept good and bad times, and support it with ticket money, but I would stop going if we reverted to playing the Youth Team and charging £30 to watch again. We won't know if your fans are the same, because you have refused to play the youth team, preferring the has-been approach, and still the attendance drops. Excellent post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torres Posted 19 August, 2011 Share Posted 19 August, 2011 I like Brass Eye too Torro but again, what has that to do with your boycott/ protests? Nothing, dimwit . Try reading your own post - you know, the one I quoted. As for a protest, I wasn't protesting or boycotting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 19 August, 2011 Share Posted 19 August, 2011 (edited) Nothing, dimwit . Try reading your own post - you know, the one I quoted. As for a protest, I wasn't protesting or boycotting. Poor old Ho has now gone beyond being a sad humourless joke. It's quite clear he has spent the summer reading Trolling For Dummies. He doesn't even notice his own contradictions anymore, he just does what the book says and mirrors posts. Clearly it's a new tactic to try and bore everyone to death by ruining page after page and distracting the regular contributors. Meanwhile, Vlad isn't FAPP for one of his projects. Yeah sure the Football Authorities would have no problem letting Pol Pot run a club as long as he hadn't been convicted in the UK, but dear old Vlad's empire is built upon Banking Licences. It won't affect his train set for some time yet, certainly won't cause him any grief back in the Motherland, but there will be "Interest" now in his Baltic operations. For us the game will be about poopey & it's balance sheet. Saints & The Liebherrs have followed the Citeh example (soon to be joined by the mancs) of recording debt as equity. In Saints case, the Liebherr Equity was the 14mil to buy the club (which had been previously valued at 30 mil while in the CCC). Start of this season then that Equity investment would have been worth around 24 mil as (according to Ho) they were touted around the City (14mil plus AOC's sudden asset rise). So they could have stuck another 10 mil in and still seen them get their money back this season or next or the one after. Wonder how Vlad sees things. Equity or more loans? What would his investment be worth now or at the end of the season? You know all those highly valued assets (remind me what did the Statement of Affairs value their squad at?) And of course the value of their Infrastructure. Vlad is clearly a man who only wants to have a train set to play with, the much waited Post Acquisition Public Statement hasn't set out a Vision, hasn't set out a strategy or a Plan of Phased investments, it's just been, another **** in the directors box (or should that be hutch) with a stupid grin. Forget the Attendances, forget the Troll, the reason that this thread will have time to run and that the numbers are declining is that, putting it bluntly, the new boys in town don't appear to be selling a FUTURE for that scrap yard & it's customers. It is still all about the NOW, Plasters being applied to gaping wounds. Poopey - the club with the foresight of a Goldfish. THAT is what is depressing many skate mates I have. It's what I and others on here foresaw when we tried to put a Virtual arm round OldNick to tell him not to worry about "Them Getting Away With It". They survived, and remain stuck in the same lingering nightmare. We're laughing at them now because we lived through a similar nightmare for 4 years having lived before that in the shadow of "The City of London" where Dividends and Share Value were more important than "Customer Satisfaction". The train set will run on and on, the boys will pop in to the odd car Boot to collect a few Vintage Hornby relics to keep them interested. Oh and Ho, try reading a few more advanced tomes on the subject of Trolling. Maybe then it wouldn't be so obvious. I'm off to chat with my mate in Bompey about the weather, the airshow & how well his Saab is running Edited 19 August, 2011 by dubai_phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 19 August, 2011 Share Posted 19 August, 2011 Many Moons ago on the old Saints forever, the dull old attendance argument came up and there were some hideous (Sub 10,000) attendances quoted from years gone by for the blue few.....corps argument (And no doubt he will deny it, but 100% true) was they were protesting and staying away because of Gregory Remember that corpy old boy :) :) But our stay away protests don't count :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevvy Posted 19 August, 2011 Share Posted 19 August, 2011 http://www.newsnow.co.uk/A/514290265?-11209 Just an update ladies and gentlemen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holepuncture Posted 19 August, 2011 Share Posted 19 August, 2011 I'll ask again as no-one's answered my question - what were the boycotts and the protests against? LOL Here you go! Woopert Lowe, we had a funny song (for those protesting whilst attending matches) called Swing Lowe... I think someone even mixed a song up about it, 'Lowe must Go' or something... Now get down to the Hard and go mud diving for some pennies - the rich Sotonians are chucking money off the side, dont miss out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 19 August, 2011 Share Posted 19 August, 2011 (edited) Many Moons ago on the old Saints forever, the dull old attendance argument came up and there were some hideous (Sub 10,000) attendances quoted from years gone by for the blue few.....corps argument (And no doubt he will deny it, but 100% true) was they were protesting and staying away because of Gregory Remember that corpy old boy :) :) But our stay away protests don't count :) I think the statistical gems you are after are these... 1994/1995 - Championship - av attendance: 8,269 1995/1996 - Championship - av attendance: 9,407 1996/1997 - Championship - av attendance: 8,854 Basically when pompey have a boycott similar to ours their support drops to AFC Bournemouth levels. Edited 19 August, 2011 by aintforever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrek Posted 19 August, 2011 Share Posted 19 August, 2011 http://www.newsnow.co.uk/A/514290265?-11209 Just an update ladies and gentlemen 'A lot of the delay has been from creditors owed slightly more than £2,500 adjusting their claims downwards so they get the full amount back, rather than just 20p for every £1 they're owed.'Ahhh, so it's the creditors' fault. Dear me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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