JackFrost Posted 1 August, 2011 Share Posted 1 August, 2011 Can anyone out there post when the the court case with Storrie and Mandaric is to be completed and also when Harry and the others case is due to start. Surely the future of the Skates is resting heavily on the results of these cases, also why has it gone so quiet on the court case front. Nope, I'm afraid PFC is pretty much right on this one Whilst I don't know the precise ins and outs of it, the directors of Luton faced 50 separate charges involving irregular payments and they were deducted 10 points as a result of being found guilty on some or all of them. (The rest of the points deduction was related to failing to agree a CVA which Pompey has done) Storrie is facing 2 charges. At worst they'll get a 50 quid fine which they'll pay 5p in the pound over 5 years As for the forensic investigation, that's where it gets interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 1 August, 2011 Share Posted 1 August, 2011 Despite the rules suggesting otherwise, I'd be surprised if they get hit as a result of the current tax cases (if there are convictions) - BUT what of the forensic investigation into the accounts - any sign of wrongdoing yet? After all that was included as a key element to the joke CVA and AA's involvement. The financial world is still watching - and awaiting explanations of AA's amazing increasing and decreasing debt mountain, as well as the whole insolvent trading issue. That could be a likelier source of trouble. Yes, I'm really looking forward to the results of that forensic investigation being published. Best case outcome will be that it is found that Android manipulated the finances illegally to avoid HMRC having a sufficient percentage to veto the CVA and that simultaneously it will be proven that Storrieteller continued trading illegally beyond the point when the Skates were insolvent. I can actually give the investigators a lead as to where they can find the damning evidence. Under the carpet where the Android swept it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 1 August, 2011 Share Posted 1 August, 2011 Nope, I'm afraid PFC is pretty much right on this one Whilst I don't know the precise ins and outs of it, the directors of Luton faced 50 separate charges involving irregular payments and they were deducted 10 points as a result of being found guilty on some or all of them. (The rest of the points deduction was related to failing to agree a CVA which Pompey has done) Storrie is facing 2 charges. At worst they'll get a 50 quid fine which they'll pay 5p in the pound over 5 years As for the forensic investigation, that's where it gets interesting Yeah I would agree with this, I suppose there is a small chance that the court cases will come back to bite the club but it wont make any difference to where they are. A fine will be my guess at most but the courts will go after those in the dock and so on for real punishments. The investigation is where problems for the club may arise. Even then the Ex directors will be the most worried but depending on how much or how little is found will depend on if the FL will get involved with the club. Previous cases will set the examples but there are not many with even close circumstances. If the investigation unwraps lots of dodgy dealings then the FL should come back with sanctions on the club that at least make it clear to other clubs what will happen if they try the same tactics. If there are not many examples of what to do then the FL will need to set an example for others to see. If it doesnt find very much then the ex directors will be the ones that cop it the most and the club will be looking at no more than a fine if at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfc123 Posted 1 August, 2011 Share Posted 1 August, 2011 Your wage bill is incredibly high compared to your income and you still don’t know how that’s being funded, if the Liebherr’s are giving you the money or if it’s a loan to be paid back some time. It's a loan: "But it also states the amount owed in more than five years is £20.4m as a loan to be repaid to the shareholder – that is £12m on top of what Southampton Football Club Limited owes. Markus Liebherr was the only shareholder in DMWSL 613 Ltd before his death last August, with the company now in probate." Interestingly, in the same article is this little nugget of info: "Despite the appearance of hefty loans on the balance sheet, there was plenty of investment – and, lest we forget, the debt that Liebherr entirely wrote off for the club." So then, the debt is "written off", (a moot point) only for Liebherr himself to then rack new debts up immediately with himself as the creditor! 'Frying pan' and 'fire' are three words that come to mind....... http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/9100616.Good_news_for_Saints_amongst___7_7m_loss/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anothersaintinsouthsea Posted 1 August, 2011 Share Posted 1 August, 2011 It's a loan: "But it also states the amount owed in more than five years is £20.4m as a loan to be repaid to the shareholder – that is £12m on top of what Southampton Football Club Limited owes. Markus Liebherr was the only shareholder in DMWSL 613 Ltd before his death last August, with the company now in probate." Interestingly, in the same article is this little nugget of info: "Despite the appearance of hefty loans on the balance sheet, there was plenty of investment – and, lest we forget, the debt that Liebherr entirely wrote off for the club." So then, the debt is "written off", (a moot point) only for Liebherr himself to then rack new debts up immediately with himself as the creditor! 'Frying pan' and 'fire' are three words that come to mind....... http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/9100616.Good_news_for_Saints_amongst___7_7m_loss/ clutching at straws comes to mind. One thing I couldn't see in that article was any mention of money stolen from charities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted 1 August, 2011 Share Posted 1 August, 2011 Do explain how the current owners are the 'fire' in that baffling little cliche? Moving debt from several outside uncontrollable companies with a tendency to call administrators at the first sign of worry, to the owners taking it inhouse, is more like 'frying pan to middle shelf of the fridge after half an hour on the kitchen top'. We have owners who invested set up costs at what I believe to be a sensible level so they could grow the business towards self-sufficiency. Starting with a broken business it needed investment and that was likely to show in the first year accounts. It did. No problem. If the 2nd year accounts indicate that no progress has been made then that would be a problem. That hasn't happened. Instead the owners have created a business model that is working and could be sold to investors as a going concern, at a profit. So please explain why you think we are now in a worse state than we were pre-administration?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holepuncture Posted 1 August, 2011 Share Posted 1 August, 2011 Im a silly skate bastard who just doesn’t get it They will take us to a level you couldnt quite believe I dont even exist, lol I have never met my client I am a convicted fraudster, feels like home here Peter I have to say Where the **** is my mill for my image rights? FFS, ****ty tin pot club... 36k for four years you say Peter? Yes my dad had a contract taken out on him. Yes the Swedish authorities, British Financial governing bodies and the United States FBI all seem to think I have links to organised crime. Yes there are numerous reports online linking me to the Russian mafia. But, my all of a sudden beloved Pompey fans... None of it is true... 'honest' The arena has a few problems, but we made a million last year and we are a profitable pompey... 'honest' 200,000 landmines you say? Not a problem... 48 military tanks you need for your genocide you say?... il get on the blower Mr Angolan war mongerer. I normally make my money out of oil, this is a one off... 'honest' This is my ****ing car park, and my ****ing offices... Thats £6k a week rent or you can ****in do one... and tell those cancer charities to go **** themselves I am slowly falling in love with Pompey Look at your custodians you dirty little skate, this is why we cant take you seriously... because you took this lot seriously! Within two hours of visiting St.Mays, I made a firm offer Markus is a very intelligent person, I was surprised when we got here and he told us a lot about the shipping business of Southampton right back from the First and Second World Wars. There was not a direct affinity with Southampton FC before but when he got here and saw the infrastructure … he said ‘this club needs to be elsewhere and I can help to take it where it belongs to be.’ That is clear. It is the Premier League. Cortese described Liebherr as “a genius in business – he is somebody who invents new technologies. “On a personal level he’s not a man of big words, he is somebody who likes trusted people around him. He’s not really open to people he doesn’t know. He is also somebody who doesn’t like to be in the spotlight. “He is a very passionate person and if you can attract his passion about something he is 100 per cent passionate. Go diving fotr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 1 August, 2011 Share Posted 1 August, 2011 It's a loan: Just a minor point, for the record, Saints fans questioned the financing of the club immediately following the takeover. Radio Solent ran a legthy interview with Corteses where fans were asked to send their question in. Cortese was asked this VERY question, and he answered it in full and it has been re-posted and linked on here on many occassions. So stop lying, making things up and generally ignoring anything that is linked on here that does not match your own deluded view of your stinking cesspit of a City and it's crooked football club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 1 August, 2011 Share Posted 1 August, 2011 clutching at straws comes to mind. One thing I couldn't see in that article was any mention of money stolen from charities. Nor any mention of diddling the tax payer out of £30m (or whatever the figure was....I lose track) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 1 August, 2011 Share Posted 1 August, 2011 Yes, I'm really looking forward to the results of that forensic investigation being published. Best case outcome will be that it is found that Android manipulated the finances illegally to avoid HMRC having a sufficient percentage to veto the CVA and that simultaneously it will be proven that Storrieteller continued trading illegally beyond the point when the Skates were insolvent. I can actually give the investigators a lead as to where they can find the damning evidence. Under the carpet where the Android swept it. Or more likely, shredded. In which case the investigator may wish to consider hiring some Iranian carpet weavers: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paper_shredder#Unshredding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 1 August, 2011 Share Posted 1 August, 2011 Post on a skate board made me lol: Over the past few years we have been bruised, broken and battered. We have been lied to by a succession of snakes and con artists and even some of the people we thought we could trust. Vilified by many within the footballing community we have fallen from heroes of the terraces to whimpering dogs licking our wounds. So much of our pain, and yes humiliation has been in public. Shouted loud by those not fit to enter the city, paraded across the land by the tabloids - and we have to accept that they got a lot of it right I'm afraid - our demise was documented, packaged and so so painful. But the time to be ashamed of crooks acting in OUR name is now past. The team last season showed that they can survive, that they can inspire [when they are not scoring own goals] and that they can hold their heads up. What about us? The fans. Can we do the same thing? Are we able to rise again and make Fratton out fortress? Gone are the superficial supporters, the glory hunters and the unknowing. They can continue to make their trips to Manchester or West London, and I for one think that we are better off without them. If you don't understand us, and don't want to learn then sod off ought to be our mantra. And noise should be our weapon of choice. Let's forget the recent past, let's revel in our renaissance and be proud of what we can achieve in the future. We know our roots, we know our city and all that it means to us, so let us not be afraid, once again, to show that. On the eve of this new season I say sod the b'stards that dragged us down, hail the men that wear the shirt and loudly shout PLAY UP POMPEY ! We're Back ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 2 August, 2011 Share Posted 2 August, 2011 Post on a skate board made me lol: LOL even with the superficial supporters they didnt have enough support and now it seems this chap wants to wave them good bye for good! We are back with our 15 true supporters and TCWTB! Hear us roar!! haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 2 August, 2011 Share Posted 2 August, 2011 From the Skate OS: Be Pompey’s Official 12th Man Want to get closer to your heroes? Or are you looking for an extra-special gift for the Pompey fan in your life? Well, here’s your chance. The club is offering a fantastic experience enabling Blues supporters to be Pompey’s official 12th man. The package includes: - Your name and squad number (12) printed onto a home shirt (included in the price) - Pre-match presentation photograph with a member of the first-team squad - Your photograph on the player sponsorship page in POMPEY, the matchday magazine - Your name printed on the back page of the matchday magazine - Two south stand tickets for the match - Announcement on the big screen and PA announcement - A copy of the matchday magazine - Photograph and acknowledgement in the following matchday magazine - A seat on the bench, and possibly even a run out on the pitch should injuries occur* And you can get all of this for just £125! There are no age restrictions for the official 12th man package (how could there be when we already have a player in his 50's in the squad*) To be honest, not a bad idea for making a bit of cash and I am surprised it is so cheap - unless they really are trying to make up enough people to fill the subs bench this season? *added by me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 2 August, 2011 Share Posted 2 August, 2011 Thats sounds just like what TCWTB would be up for. It would make a hilarious picture lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 2 August, 2011 Share Posted 2 August, 2011 Post on a skate board made me lol: But the time to be ashamed of crooks acting in OUR name is now past. :lol::lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 2 August, 2011 Share Posted 2 August, 2011 From the Skate OS: Be Pompey’s Official 12th Man Want to get closer to your heroes? Or are you looking for an extra-special gift for the Pompey fan in your life? Well, here’s your chance. The club is offering a fantastic experience enabling Blues supporters to be Pompey’s official 12th man. The package includes: - Your name and squad number (12) printed onto a home shirt (included in the price) - Pre-match presentation photograph with a member of the first-team squad - Your photograph on the player sponsorship page in POMPEY, the matchday magazine - Your name printed on the back page of the matchday magazine - Two south stand tickets for the match - Announcement on the big screen and PA announcement - A copy of the matchday magazine - Photograph and acknowledgement in the following matchday magazine - A seat on the bench, and possibly even a run out on the pitch should injuries occur* And you can get all of this for just £125! There are no age restrictions for the official 12th man package (how could there be when we already have a player in his 50's in the squad*) To be honest, not a bad idea for making a bit of cash and I am surprised it is so cheap - unless they really are trying to make up enough people to fill the subs bench this season? *added by me Sounds like a job for an undercover TSW Forum Match superstar. get him onto the bench, nobble the other 4 subs, come on and take pot shots at own goals & ensure you make dozy back passes to the oppo CF SuperStevieGranty wouldn't work, he had his picture in a paper once. OldNick is still waiting to serve his one match suspension & I wouldn't i) Fit into a shirt or ii) get International clearance.... Any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 2 August, 2011 Share Posted 2 August, 2011 Any ideas? Hmm, I'd have the international clearance problem too, although with my high impact sport bra on and using the tape I normally use on my dodgy ankle I might be able to get away with it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 2 August, 2011 Share Posted 2 August, 2011 Lol at our resident pair of retards. Thick, unpleasant, unfortunate, idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 2 August, 2011 Share Posted 2 August, 2011 Sounds like a job for an undercover TSW Forum Match superstar. get him onto the bench, nobble the other 4 subs, come on and take pot shots at own goals & ensure you make dozy back passes to the oppo CF SuperStevieGranty wouldn't work, he had his picture in a paper once. OldNick is still waiting to serve his one match suspension & I wouldn't i) Fit into a shirt or ii) get International clearance.... Any ideas? What about the Rodent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 2 August, 2011 Share Posted 2 August, 2011 Lol at our resident pair of retards. Thick, unpleasant, unfortunate, idiots. Yep that sums up Roman & Vlad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted 2 August, 2011 Share Posted 2 August, 2011 I'm surprised they haven't bothered to add to their squad too much, I take it they have seen the fixture list and the start date?...... I really thought they would have brought in another 5 or 6 overpaid journeymen by now. Which begs the question, have the Russians got any money at all? And if they have, why are they not using it?.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 2 August, 2011 Share Posted 2 August, 2011 I'm surprised they haven't bothered to add to their squad too much, I take it they have seen the fixture list and the start date?...... I really thought they would have brought in another 5 or 6 overpaid journeymen by now. Which begs the question, have the Russians got any money at all? And if they have, why are they not using it?.... They shot their load on Luke Varney, David Norris, Jason Pearce and Greg Halford. So, so wrong.... and so obviously a club that has money to burn, just ask their small creditors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 3 August, 2011 Share Posted 3 August, 2011 http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/pompey/pompey-past/great-matches/hawks_hand_blues_betis_cash_1_2924649?utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed:%20FrattonLatest%20(Portsmouth.co.uk%20-%20Pompey%20Newsletter)&utm_source=feedburner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidthesquid Posted 3 August, 2011 Share Posted 3 August, 2011 http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/pompey/pompey-past/great-matches/hawks_hand_blues_betis_cash_1_2924649?utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed:%20FrattonLatest%20(Portsmouth.co.uk%20-%20Pompey%20Newsletter)&utm_source=feedburner What a mean-spirited & miserable, cheap little outfit they are. Could you imagine us with, say, Eastleigh in similar circumstances under any of our previous regimes, never mind now, being so mean? Says all you need to know about them, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Lindford Posted 3 August, 2011 Share Posted 3 August, 2011 They had sold 5000 tickets to the Bestest Fans in the World for their glamour friendly....................... PMSL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 3 August, 2011 Share Posted 3 August, 2011 And they STILL don't get it! It was poor planning not to be able to fulfill this fixture we should have been back 3 days prior to it, we should deal with it and not deprive H&W what is probably an improtant £2k. Now off you go and get us a striker a winger and another midfielder and full-back!! PuP On the one hand I commend the stupid skate for saying they should not be taking the money. On the other hand, he still doesn't get it! Why does he think they are so desperate to get back £2k, probably because every penny counts when you are once again trading on the edge of insolvency! Then he demands they go and sign four more players, doubtless on tens of thousands of pounds per week! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warsash saint Posted 3 August, 2011 Share Posted 3 August, 2011 They had sold 5000 tickets to the Bestest Fans in the World for their glamour friendly....................... PMSL. I dont think we are in any position to mock with the attendances of our 2 home friendlies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holepuncture Posted 3 August, 2011 Share Posted 3 August, 2011 What a mean-spirited & miserable, cheap little outfit they are. Could you imagine us with, say, Eastleigh in similar circumstances under any of our previous regimes, never mind now, being so mean? Says all you need to know about them, really. That is utterly desperate and quite disgusting. That will pay for Ben Haim for a whole morning... Pathetic, cesspit of a club, and quite right Saints would never behave like this with a neighbour club such as Eastleigh (although we kicked the bompey chairmens arse when he ducked on his champagne bill!) Honestly, that article is just awful... doing your local minows for a couple of grand? ****ing cowboys they need to be shut down asap... How about they pass on the couple of grand to the childrens cancer charities they have screwed over, or St.Johns ambulance. Maybe take Terry the builder out for lunch to help make up for folding his business for him. In fact, I guess St.Johns ambulance were all organised and set up for the friendly game so they would be out of pocket due to pompeys logistical **** ups... So Havant and Waterloo save pompeys arses then pompey bully them out of the revenue, overseen by the FAs HEAD OF FOOTBALL INTEGRITY!!!!! UTTER SCUM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 3 August, 2011 Share Posted 3 August, 2011 That is utterly desperate and quite disgusting. That will pay for Ben Haim for a whole morning... Pathetic, cesspit of a club, and quite right Saints would never behave like this with a neighbour club such as Eastleigh (although we kicked the bompey chairmens arse when he ducked on his champagne bill!) Honestly, that article is just awful... doing your local minows for a couple of grand? ****ing cowboys they need to be shut down asap... How about they pass on the couple of grand to the childrens cancer charities they have screwed over, or St.Johns ambulance. Maybe take Terry the builder out for lunch to help make up for folding his business for him. In fact, I guess St.Johns ambulance were all organised and set up for the friendly game so they would be out of pocket due to pompeys logistical **** ups... So Havant and Waterloo save pompeys arses then pompey bully them out of the revenue, overseen by the FAs HEAD OF FOOTBALL INTEGRITY!!!!! UTTER SCUM What a dispicable little man - quote ‘Part of the agreement we reached with the Hawks to stage the game involved us having a share of the gate receipts. ‘We obviously gave them a bit in terms of the fixture and they also received money.’ What an utter carnt. That extra 2000 quid might just cover a training session or 2 in wages for any of their new signings, (lets not even mention Ben Haims contribution to their weekly wage bill) but it would have probably covered getting all of H&W's team kitted out and a few spare balls as well for the season. An absolutely shocking decision made by those higher up at Notarf Krap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted 3 August, 2011 Share Posted 3 August, 2011 I can see that pompey gave H and W the fixture, perhaps to save themselves from legal action, but surely the amount involved isn't worth bothering about? Requiring £2K from a non-league club may give an indication of the current state of their finances. Seems a bit pointless and another great PR opportunity missed - could have passed it straight to the cancer charity that still awaits the return of their stolen cash. Any small creditors impressed?.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 3 August, 2011 Share Posted 3 August, 2011 Another point is according to wikipedia they have a squad of 15 players if you take away the youngsters. 7 of those 15 players are 30 or over, and in 14 months time that will go up to 10. (Rocha, Mokoena, Hreidarsson, Lawrence, Mullins, Varney, Kitson, Norris, Ben-Haim and Kanu) That squad is starting to age. It really doesn't look too good for them long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 3 August, 2011 Share Posted 3 August, 2011 Utterly despicable. I would love the national press to pick up on this. 2k = 1hr 25mins wages to Ben Haim (not enough time for him to watch a full match, even minus the half-time break) but it is A LOT of money for H&W who helped the Skates out of a hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Shearer Posted 3 August, 2011 Share Posted 3 August, 2011 Although they've got no squad, Pompey still have a half decent first 11 for this league. Enough experience and physical strength/height to unattractively scrape some points. Can see quite a few narrow wins for them. Depends how long the fitness lasts, if they pick up injuries and whether they can make signings. With their actions of the last few years, there doesn't seem to be any point in them not signing expensive players. They'll get away with it afterall. Agreed, first 11 is more than capable of holding its own in the league. Coupled with a few loans to flesh out the squad and they'll stay in the division no worries sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 3 August, 2011 Share Posted 3 August, 2011 I dont think we are in any position to mock with the attendances of our 2 home friendlies. 7,000+ for midweek against WBA ain't too bad compared to 5000 for Real Betis on a Saturday (and many probably only went to WBA or memorial cup) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 3 August, 2011 Share Posted 3 August, 2011 The skates currently only have 15 squad players - how are they planning to play 11 + 5 subs? The 15 includes Pearce who is suspended and includes 6 defenders and 2 GKs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 3 August, 2011 Share Posted 3 August, 2011 Agreed, first 11 is more than capable of holding its own in the league. Coupled with a few loans to flesh out the squad and they'll stay in the division no worries sadly. I expect so, but at the moment it's looking like it's going to be an increasingly difficult task to do that year by year. Currently I don't think their squad is as strong as it was last year and it is starting to age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 3 August, 2011 Share Posted 3 August, 2011 The skates currently only have 15 squad players - how are they planning to play 11 + 5 subs? The 15 includes Pearce who is suspended and includes 6 defenders and 2 GKs That's the other strange thing, half their squad appears to be defenders. At best their leaving it late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 3 August, 2011 Share Posted 3 August, 2011 I'm sure I read a few days ago that Stevie was just waiting for Villas-Boas to get back to sort out his loans for the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaMarlin Posted 3 August, 2011 Share Posted 3 August, 2011 So why haven't they done "the American thing" (according to one poster's comments under the story on The News website) and sued the pants off everbody? Any American lawyer worth his salt could easily cook up a case for incompetence against the catering company whose truck collided with the plane, causing the cancellation of the flight, delay in returning, inability to fulfil the fuxture, loss of earnings, etc. Plus a bit of compo thrown in for trauma, mental scarring, etc. Unless there isn't a very strong case. Perhaps the delay in returning was not caused by a clumsy food wagon driver, but was more to do with poor planning and logistics of their trip. In other words, usual tactic. Cock things up themselves, and then blame somebody else. As others have said previously. If they are that desperate for £2,000 off H&W, it doesn't bode well for their financial situation. It would interesting to know how much they had to pay Real Betis for the friendly. Then add that to ticket refunds = ouch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 3 August, 2011 Share Posted 3 August, 2011 The skates currently only have 15 squad players - how are they planning to play 11 + 5 subs? The 15 includes Pearce who is suspended and includes 6 defenders and 2 GKs I'm sure Redkrap will loan them a player or 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warsash saint Posted 3 August, 2011 Share Posted 3 August, 2011 7,000+ for midweek against WBA ain't too bad compared to 5000 for Real Betis on a Saturday (and many probably only went to WBA or memorial cup) 5000 tickets in advance though - how many on walk up ? Another 5000 ?? Still probably would have got more than our attendance for the ML trophy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 3 August, 2011 Share Posted 3 August, 2011 I can see that pompey gave H and W the fixture, perhaps to save themselves from legal action, but surely the amount involved isn't worth bothering about? Requiring £2K from a non-league club may give an indication of the current state of their finances. Seems a bit pointless and another great PR opportunity missed - could have passed it straight to the cancer charity that still awaits the return of their stolen cash. Any small creditors impressed?....[/QUOTE] Or even paid?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 3 August, 2011 Share Posted 3 August, 2011 So why haven't they done "the American thing" (according to one poster's comments under the story on The News website) and sued the pants off everbody? Any American lawyer worth his salt could easily cook up a case for incompetence against the catering company whose truck collided with the plane, causing the cancellation of the flight, delay in returning, inability to fulfil the fuxture, loss of earnings, etc. Plus a bit of compo thrown in for trauma, mental scarring, etc. Unless there isn't a very strong case. Perhaps the delay in returning was not caused by a clumsy food wagon driver, but was more to do with poor planning and logistics of their trip. In other words, usual tactic. Cock things up themselves, and then blame somebody else. As others have said previously. If they are that desperate for £2,000 off H&W, it doesn't bode well for their financial situation. It would interesting to know how much they had to pay Real Betis for the friendly. Then add that to ticket refunds = ouch! Also, quite clearly, if they had to claw back 2 grand from H&W then they obviously didn't have any travel insurance. Just checked my free with credit card policy with my bank & they said it would cover costs incurred due to delays like this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 3 August, 2011 Share Posted 3 August, 2011 Also, quite clearly, if they had to claw back 2 grand from H&W then they obviously didn't have any travel insurance. Just checked my free with credit card policy with my bank & they said it would cover costs incurred due to delays like this one. The cheating skate barstards probably had a couple of policies, paid somebody a pittance in a brown paper bag to damage their plane, claimed on both policies and made a profit on the whole scam!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 3 August, 2011 Share Posted 3 August, 2011 The cheating skate barstards probably had a couple of policies, paid somebody a pittance in a brown paper bag to damage their plane, claimed on both policies and made a profit on the whole scam!!! Yeah that's the big investment budget sorted then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 3 August, 2011 Share Posted 3 August, 2011 For those convinced that they are going to compete in the league this season, I just read this: Neville Dalton on Pompey's prospects this season. I particularly liked the intro. Neville Dalton is a journalist and a Portsmouth fan of more than 40 years. Ever since Pompey were bought for the umpteenth time in the past half a dozen years, I’ve been looking forward to writing about the season ahead unfettered by the misery that so marred our most recent close-seasons. No more massive debts hanging over us; everybody paid; a level playing field; a decent-sized squad, with room for sensible – and careful – augmentation where necessary. Oh, and a proper pre-season, carefully planned and controlled by a manager no longer constrained by the physical and metaphorical chains that have held us down for what seems for ever. I’m still looking forward to writing such a piece.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaMarlin Posted 3 August, 2011 Share Posted 3 August, 2011 For those convinced that they are going to compete in the league this season, I just read this: Neville Dalton on Pompey's prospects this season. I particularly liked the intro. Neville Dalton is a journalist and a Portsmouth fan of more than 40 years. Ever since Pompey were bought for the umpteenth time in the past half a dozen years, I’ve been looking forward to writing about the season ahead unfettered by the misery that so marred our most recent close-seasons. No more massive debts hanging over us; everybody paid; a level playing field; a decent-sized squad, with room for sensible – and careful – augmentation where necessary. Oh, and a proper pre-season, carefully planned and controlled by a manager no longer constrained by the physical and metaphorical chains that have held us down for what seems for ever. I’m still looking forward to writing such a piece.... I used to know Neville. Good bloke. He is a p****y fan who supports his club, but doesn't hate Saints. He is a sound journo and his view will be pretty objective and not written with too-thick blue tinted specks on. If he has concerns, you can bet they are real ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 3 August, 2011 Share Posted 3 August, 2011 That was a very sensible and well written piece Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 3 August, 2011 Share Posted 3 August, 2011 Another point is according to wikipedia they have a squad of 15 players if you take away the youngsters. 7 of those 15 players are 30 or over, and in 14 months time that will go up to 10. (Rocha, Mokoena, Hreidarsson, Lawrence, Mullins, Varney, Kitson, Norris, Ben-Haim and Kanu) That squad is starting to age. It really doesn't look too good for them long term. It's not looking very rosy for them in the short term either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 3 August, 2011 Share Posted 3 August, 2011 Sounds like a job for an undercover TSW Forum Match superstar. get him onto the bench, nobble the other 4 subs, come on and take pot shots at own goals & ensure you make dozy back passes to the oppo CF SuperStevieGranty wouldn't work, he had his picture in a paper once. OldNick is still waiting to serve his one match suspension & I wouldn't i) Fit into a shirt or ii) get International clearance.... Any ideas? I would happily do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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