Pompey Takeover Saga

[anothersaintinsouthsea]

Ya know? I never ever wanted poopy to die and go away. I was always of the opinion that we should ALL have a team to follow.

 

I have officially had enough now. The deception, lies, cheating, illegality..........I can't wait now until this thread is redundant because they are no more.

 

Sport and the great game went out of the window years ago for this lot. time for them to go. I have reached the end of my charity as far as their case is concerned.

 

It's only taken 766 pages of this thread to convince you?

[dubai_phil]

It's only taken 766 pages of this thread to convince you?

 

I think he's been a lurker. Went out for a smoke while on the crapper & found himself typing on the wrong thread then thought WTF get his comments in for posterity before this gets turned into a book

[NickG]

I've always hoped I would get the 38,297th post on this thread!

 

So they have got away with it!

[suewhistle]

I've always hoped I would get the 38,297th post on this thread!

 

So they have got away with it!

 

Don't you start again!;-)

[rallyboy]

re the getting away with it Nick, there are levels...

Many would like them to be legally held to account for the cheating at some point, with points deductions for the blatant financial irregularities and insolvent trading - or perhaps there will be an honest attempt at addressing some of the debt.

So for me and many others, until they have been treated like Leeds, Swindon, Bmouth or Luton etc, they have escaped justice.

 

But their remaining fans might feel that going from cup finals and games against Utd and Milan to being bent over and fiddled with by the likes of Coventry at home isn't quite getting away with it.

Let's recall we were two divisions beneath them not long ago and they had billionaires aplenty ready to take them into the top four while we were trying to hang onto our ground.

Not sure they feel they have got away with it as much as you feel they have.

 

That said, delusion among the few is rife and no doubt we will soon have to hear about all the Prem players they will be signing in the summer as the master tactician Cotterill builds a club that will dominate european football for the next twenty years.

He's done a fantastic job you know.*

 

 

 

 

 

 

*Presumably this was some decorating or diy for his missus, because it certainly wasn't at Fratton.

[ohwhenthesaints]

How's their European appeal coming along?

[OldNick]

Don't you start again!;-)

Sue considering it was NickH who had the Trademark on 'Pompey will get away with it' not NickG the imposter lol

NickH changed his username as he was tired of being confused with the imposter NickG

[Saint Lindford]

The Fratton end is to be turned into a sea of blue and white to mark the first-ever Fans’ Day.Monday, May 2, will see the launch of the inaugural event, which has been created to celebrate being a Pompey fan.

 

The Pompey community is embracing the concept which takes place on the day of the last home match of the season against Norwich.

 

A host of rides and stalls will be set-up in the Fratton end car park, running from 12-6.30pm.

 

In addition, Jobsite have stumped up four-figure sponsorship to ensure supporters can do their bit inside the ground.

 

Every seat in the Fratton end will have a banner to hold up before kick off.

 

Once synchronised, it will become a sea of blue and white with ‘1898’ written across it.

 

And one of the organisers, Tom Dearie, is urging all fans to take part as he looks for the first Fans’ Day to prove a big success.

 

He said: ‘We are asking every fan in the Fratton end to join in what we hope will be a visually stunning backdrop to the team doing their last pre-match huddle of the season at Fratton Park.

 

‘When you take your seat you will find a clap banner and, at the designated time which will be printed on the reverse of the clap banner, we ask that everyone in that stand holds theirs up to help create this display.

 

‘The clap banners used for the display can be folded back afterwards and be used to make extra noise during the game to help cheer Pompey on to a final home win in what has been a long, hard season for everyone associated with the club.’

 

 

Just a shame that the hundreds of empty seats will make big holes in the 'sea of blue and white'.

[Sevvy]

http://www.newsnow.co.uk/A/489487354?-11209

 

http://www.newsnow.co.uk/A/489383090?-11209

 

Just an update for any body interested.

[saintjay77]

I've always hoped I would get the 38,297th post on this thread!

 

So they have got away with it!

 

Am I having a whoosh moment or has something actually happened to suggest that they are all fine and dandy now?

[dronskisaint]

What are they celebrating...one year in to the CVA?!

 

Astounding...'Sing if you're glad to be skint...sing if you've ripped off the world'

[OldNick]

Once synchronised, it will become a sea of blue and white with ‘1898’ written across it.

 

Is this part of the days celebrations 'guess the crowd next season competition?'

[JackanorySFC]

lol "clap banners" isn't that what no mark clubs like Reading have to "generate atmosphere"? Drums, bells, Rumble sticks etc have NO place in football, glad we don't tolerate them here, make me proud to be Southampton.

[LGTL]

The Fratton end is to be turned into a sea of blue and white to mark the first-ever Fans’ Day.Monday, May 2, will see the launch of the inaugural event, which has been created to celebrate being a Pompey fan.

 

The Pompey community is embracing the concept which takes place on the day of the last home match of the season against Norwich.

 

A host of rides and stalls will be set-up in the Fratton end car park, running from 12-6.30pm.

 

In addition, Jobsite have stumped up four-figure sponsorship to ensure supporters can do their bit inside the ground.

 

Every seat in the Fratton end will have a banner to hold up before kick off.

 

Once synchronised, it will become a sea of blue and white with ‘1898’ written across it.

 

And one of the organisers, Tom Dearie, is urging all fans to take part as he looks for the first Fans’ Day to prove a big success.

 

He said: ‘We are asking every fan in the Fratton end to join in what we hope will be a visually stunning backdrop to the team doing their last pre-match huddle of the season at Fratton Park.

 

‘When you take your seat you will find a clap banner and, at the designated time which will be printed on the reverse of the clap banner, we ask that everyone in that stand holds theirs up to help create this display.

 

‘The clap banners used for the display can be folded back afterwards and be used to make extra noise during the game to help cheer Pompey on to a final home win in what has been a long, hard season for everyone associated with the club.’

 

 

Just a shame that the hundreds of empty seats will make big holes in the 'sea of blue and white'.

 

Ah, the great "fan days". For those clubs who cannot generate enough support.

[dronskisaint]

Clap banner is a good idea...could carry it as a warning of what you might catch should you get too close to the holder.

 

What a numpty, desperate and pathetic attempt to generate intersest in a foul-smelling and failing entity - I wish theey'd just add the death to the smell of it that pervades at nottarF kraP!

[mack rill]

lol "clap banners" isn't that what no mark clubs like Reading have to "generate atmosphere"? Drums, bells, Rumble sticks etc have NO place in football, glad we don't tolerate them here, make me proud to be Southampton.

Lolz! at Jacko-nory, Bit rich coming from the supporter of a club who done the Yankee dubbin trick through the ground PA,

[JackanorySFC]

Lolz! at Jacko-nory, Bit rich coming from the supporter of a club who done the Yankee dubbin trick through the ground PA,

 

Shame they don't do it at Fratton to cover up the awful, post Euro 96 "Na na na..." stuff that is all I hear when I see you lot, just about the only good point about your silence at St Marys (not for the first time) was the lack of that work of lryrical art!

 

I can honestly say that if we had a loser like JPFCW ruining the atmosphere down here he'd be f***ed right off!

 

"Clap banners"

[Dark Munster]

The Fratton end is to be turned into a sea of blue and white to mark the first-ever Fans’ Day.Monday, May 2, will see the launch of the inaugural event, which has been created to celebrate being a Pompey fan.

 

The Pompey community is embracing the concept which takes place on the day of the last home match of the season against Norwich.

 

A host of rides and stalls will be set-up in the Fratton end car park, running from 12-6.30pm.

 

In addition, Jobsite have stumped up four-figure sponsorship to ensure supporters can do their bit inside the ground.

 

Every seat in the Fratton end will have a banner to hold up before kick off.

 

Once synchronised, it will become a sea of blue and white with ‘1898’ written across it.

 

And one of the organisers, Tom Dearie, is urging all fans to take part as he looks for the first Fans’ Day to prove a big success.

 

He said: ‘We are asking every fan in the Fratton end to join in what we hope will be a visually stunning backdrop to the team doing their last pre-match huddle of the season at Fratton Park.

 

‘When you take your seat you will find a clap banner and, at the designated time which will be printed on the reverse of the clap banner, we ask that everyone in that stand holds theirs up to help create this display.

 

‘The clap banners used for the display can be folded back afterwards and be used to make extra noise during the game to help cheer Pompey on to a final home win in what has been a long, hard season for everyone associated with the club.’

 

 

Just a shame that the hundreds of empty seats will make big holes in the 'sea of blue and white'.

 

If Chinny goes to plan B they'll need to replace "of the season" with "ever".

 

And on gravestones it's customary to have both the year of birth and the year of death engraved. So if one end is going to display "1898" (assuming they can find enough in the sparse crowd to hold that up), then it would be appropriate to have those at the other end of the ground hold up "2011".

[Gorgiesaint]

Once synchronised, it will become a sea of blue and white with ‘1898’ written across it.

 

Is this part of the days celebrations 'guess the crowd next season competition?'

 

Guess the number of pennies paid as part of the CVA?

 

Actually on second thoughts, that's still nearly twenty quid - give them another year and they may get near paying that amount.

Edited 20 April, 2011 by Gorgiesaint

[Ohio Saint]

It's only taken 766 pages of this thread to convince you?

 

I change my opinions with the wind, but not when it comes to footy, so it took me a lot of time and soul searching. The important thing here now is that they should die, get buried, and have their grave p#ssed upon.

 

I think he's been a lurker. Went out for a smoke while on the crapper & found himself typing on the wrong thread then thought WTF get his comments in for posterity before this gets turned into a book

 

This. What Phil said.

[rallyboy]

I read that there were rousing renditions at Cardiff last week of 'when Sol went up...'.

 

Nice to remember him so fondly and to celebrate his great part in the club history.

Takes the edge of the sentimental chant somewhat when you remember that he still hasn't been paid.

 

And in that little singsong the few sum up the last few years - they want to celebrate the cup, but they don't want to pick up the bill.

[NickG]

re the getting away with it Nick, there are levels...

Many would like them to be legally held to account for the cheating at some point, with points deductions for the blatant financial irregularities and insolvent trading - or perhaps there will be an honest attempt at addressing some of the debt.exactly

So for me and many others, until they have been treated like Leeds, Swindon, Bmouth or Luton etc, they have escaped justice.not really as that was their position not long ago

 

But their remaining fans might feel that going from cup finals and games against Utd and Milan to being bent over and fiddled with by the likes of Coventry at home isn't quite getting away with it.

Let's recall we were two divisions beneath them not long ago and they had billionaires aplenty ready to take them into the top four while we were trying to hang onto our ground.

Not sure they feel they have got away with it as much as you feel they have.

 

That said, delusion among the few is rife and no doubt we will soon have to hear about all the Prem players they will be signing in the summer as the master tactician Cotterill builds a club that will dominate european football for the next twenty years.

He's done a fantastic job you know.*

 

 

 

 

 

 

*Presumably this was some decorating or diy for his missus, because it certainly wasn't at Fratton.

 

do think they seem to be fairly unscathed.

[pedg]

‘The clap banners used for the display can be folded back afterwards and be used to make extra noise during the game to help cheer Pompey on to a final home win in what has been a long, hard season for everyone associated with the club.’

 

So basically a load of clap.

[Durleyfos]

Lolz! at Jacko-nory, Bit rich coming from the supporter of a club who done the Yankee dubbin trick through the ground PA,

 

Did Saints actually do this, or is it another urban myth like the dockers strike?

 

And eskimos?

[Chez]

Once synchronised, it will become a sea of blue and white with ‘1898’ written across it.

 

Is this part of the days celebrations 'guess the crowd next season competition?'

 

amount left of the parachute money?

[Gemmel]

http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/pompey/pompey-past/great-matches/numbers_don_t_add_up_for_threadbare_pompey_1_2612660

 

 

They have the smallest squad in the Football League.

 

No other Championship team has used fewer players this season.

In addition, almost a third of the current playing staff are loanees.

Now Pompey’s footballing numbers are to shrink even further.

David Lampitt anticipates manager Steve Cotterill’s retained player list will be finalised by the end of this month.

Danny Webber, David Nugent, Hermann Hreidarsson and Darryl Flahavan will be out of contract come the end of the season.

As are first-year pros Billy Goddard, Ellis Martin, Peter Gregory and Perry Ryan.

Others have already departed and the certainty is plenty more will follow.

As it stands, just nine players are contracted to Pompey next season.

Even then, that lowly tally includes Tal Ben Haim, who has failed to kick a ball for the Blues all season, despite returning from a loan spell at West Ham.

If Pompey had their way, he would have been forcibly removed from their wage bill and escorted off the premises long ago.

Currently remaining in dispute with the club, there is little chance he will be around to be part of Cotterill’s remaining nine.

At least that is what the Blues hierarchy are hoping.

Still, Ben Haim is contracted until the summer of 2013 and is in no hurry to leave behind his reported £36,000-a-week salary.

Not that Cotterill can begin strengthening a squad that will soon be in single figures.

After all, the ownership situation means any player recruitment drive is firmly on hold.

Balram Chainrai and Levi Kushnir won’t invest because they are looking to sell.

Meanwhile, Convers Sports Initiatives are in no position to invest because they haven’t purchased the club yet.

It’s a vicious circle which has left Cotterill in limbo.

It has also left Pompey with nine players for next season.

They are Hayden Mullins, Jamie Ashdown, Ricardo Rocha, Aaron Mokoena, Joel Ward, Kanu, Dave Kitson and Liam Lawrence.

Oh, and of course Ben Haim.

Of those in the current Pompey set-up, youngsters Marlon Pack and Tom Kilbey have already been told they will not be offered fresh deals.

Considered not of Championship standard, the duo must now look elsewhere to ply their trade.

Richard Hughes and Michael Brown have long possessed the knowledge their Fratton careers are over.

In the meantime, they have had to wait for their contracts to tick down before the inevitable parting of the ways.

Then there is Nadir Ciftci, who was offered a fresh contract earlier in the season.

Following two-and-a-half months of stalling, Cotterill learned elsewhere that the forward would not be putting pen to paper.

Ciftci has barely featured for the first-team since and is now set for a Turkish club as a free agent.

Meanwhile, Ibrahima Sonko, Carl Dickinson, Greg Halford, Jonathan Hogg, Ritchie de Laet and David Cotterill will all return to their parent clubs at the season’s end.

De Laet and Hogg have already indicated their willingness to return.

But while the ownership matter rumbles on, that will not happen.

Of those players the club owns and whose contracts end this summer, Nugent is the only one to have been approached.

Pompey’s leading scorer opened talks with the club in December but has since put everything on hold until the season’s end.

Effectively a free agent this summer, he is sure to attract plenty of interest.

It remains to be seen whether the Blues have the ambition and financial clout to keep him here.

Hreidarsson has recovered from a career-threatening injury to re-establish himself in the side.

But with his 37th birthday approaching in July, age may become an factor.

Then there is Webber – back from a year out injured and launching a late push to impress.

He has certainly caught the eye in one start and several brief substitute appearances.

It remains to be seen, though, whether he has done enough to convince Cotterill he is worthy of a new deal.

Finally, in terms of the first team, there is Flahavan.

Yet to make an appearance this season, the experienced keeper has been a regular on the bench.

Clearly a number two is required for Jamie Ashdown, with no youngsters yet ready to step up.

If Flahavan does not fit the bill, Cotterill will need to bring someone in.

Let’s also not forget youngsters Goddard, Martin, Gregory and Ryan – all of whom featured in the last pre-season.

However, the odds are stacked against them whether they will be around for the next one.

One thing for certain, however, is that there are nine players contracted for next season.

And it is essential at least 11 are brought in to supplement that number to give Cotterill a reasonable squad size. At least 11.

As ever, we wait and see what the future holds.

[Crab Lungs]

http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/pompey/pompey-past/great-matches/numbers_don_t_add_up_for_threadbare_pompey_1_2612660

 

 

They have the smallest squad in the Football League.

 

No other Championship team has used fewer players this season.

In addition, almost a third of the current playing staff are loanees.

Now Pompey’s footballing numbers are to shrink even further.

David Lampitt anticipates manager Steve Cotterill’s retained player list will be finalised by the end of this month.

Danny Webber, David Nugent, Hermann Hreidarsson and Darryl Flahavan will be out of contract come the end of the season.

As are first-year pros Billy Goddard, Ellis Martin, Peter Gregory and Perry Ryan.

Others have already departed and the certainty is plenty more will follow.

As it stands, just nine players are contracted to Pompey next season.

Even then, that lowly tally includes Tal Ben Haim, who has failed to kick a ball for the Blues all season, despite returning from a loan spell at West Ham.

If Pompey had their way, he would have been forcibly removed from their wage bill and escorted off the premises long ago.

Currently remaining in dispute with the club, there is little chance he will be around to be part of Cotterill’s remaining nine.

At least that is what the Blues hierarchy are hoping.

Still, Ben Haim is contracted until the summer of 2013 and is in no hurry to leave behind his reported £36,000-a-week salary.

Not that Cotterill can begin strengthening a squad that will soon be in single figures.

After all, the ownership situation means any player recruitment drive is firmly on hold.

Balram Chainrai and Levi Kushnir won’t invest because they are looking to sell.

Meanwhile, Convers Sports Initiatives are in no position to invest because they haven’t purchased the club yet.

It’s a vicious circle which has left Cotterill in limbo.

It has also left Pompey with nine players for next season.

They are Hayden Mullins, Jamie Ashdown, Ricardo Rocha, Aaron Mokoena, Joel Ward, Kanu, Dave Kitson and Liam Lawrence.

Oh, and of course Ben Haim.

Of those in the current Pompey set-up, youngsters Marlon Pack and Tom Kilbey have already been told they will not be offered fresh deals.

Considered not of Championship standard, the duo must now look elsewhere to ply their trade.

Richard Hughes and Michael Brown have long possessed the knowledge their Fratton careers are over.

In the meantime, they have had to wait for their contracts to tick down before the inevitable parting of the ways.

Then there is Nadir Ciftci, who was offered a fresh contract earlier in the season.

Following two-and-a-half months of stalling, Cotterill learned elsewhere that the forward would not be putting pen to paper.

Ciftci has barely featured for the first-team since and is now set for a Turkish club as a free agent.

Meanwhile, Ibrahima Sonko, Carl Dickinson, Greg Halford, Jonathan Hogg, Ritchie de Laet and David Cotterill will all return to their parent clubs at the season’s end.

De Laet and Hogg have already indicated their willingness to return.

But while the ownership matter rumbles on, that will not happen.

Of those players the club owns and whose contracts end this summer, Nugent is the only one to have been approached.

Pompey’s leading scorer opened talks with the club in December but has since put everything on hold until the season’s end.

Effectively a free agent this summer, he is sure to attract plenty of interest.

It remains to be seen whether the Blues have the ambition and financial clout to keep him here.

Hreidarsson has recovered from a career-threatening injury to re-establish himself in the side.

But with his 37th birthday approaching in July, age may become an factor.

Then there is Webber – back from a year out injured and launching a late push to impress.

He has certainly caught the eye in one start and several brief substitute appearances.

It remains to be seen, though, whether he has done enough to convince Cotterill he is worthy of a new deal.

Finally, in terms of the first team, there is Flahavan.

Yet to make an appearance this season, the experienced keeper has been a regular on the bench.

Clearly a number two is required for Jamie Ashdown, with no youngsters yet ready to step up.

If Flahavan does not fit the bill, Cotterill will need to bring someone in.

Let’s also not forget youngsters Goddard, Martin, Gregory and Ryan – all of whom featured in the last pre-season.

However, the odds are stacked against them whether they will be around for the next one.

One thing for certain, however, is that there are nine players contracted for next season.

And it is essential at least 11 are brought in to supplement that number to give Cotterill a reasonable squad size. At least 11.

As ever, we wait and see what the future holds.

 

I love the tone of the article; it's almost as if it's the world's fault they're in that mess. Poor Pompey.

[Sevvy]

http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/pompey/pompey-past/great-matches/numbers_don_t_add_up_for_threadbare_pompey_1_2612660

 

 

They have the smallest squad in the Football League.

 

No other Championship team has used fewer players this season.

In addition, almost a third of the current playing staff are loanees.

Now Pompey’s footballing numbers are to shrink even further.

David Lampitt anticipates manager Steve Cotterill’s retained player list will be finalised by the end of this month.

Danny Webber, David Nugent, Hermann Hreidarsson and Darryl Flahavan will be out of contract come the end of the season.

As are first-year pros Billy Goddard, Ellis Martin, Peter Gregory and Perry Ryan.

Others have already departed and the certainty is plenty more will follow.

As it stands, just nine players are contracted to Pompey next season.

Even then, that lowly tally includes Tal Ben Haim, who has failed to kick a ball for the Blues all season, despite returning from a loan spell at West Ham.

If Pompey had their way, he would have been forcibly removed from their wage bill and escorted off the premises long ago.

Currently remaining in dispute with the club, there is little chance he will be around to be part of Cotterill’s remaining nine.

At least that is what the Blues hierarchy are hoping.

Still, Ben Haim is contracted until the summer of 2013 and is in no hurry to leave behind his reported £36,000-a-week salary.

Not that Cotterill can begin strengthening a squad that will soon be in single figures.

After all, the ownership situation means any player recruitment drive is firmly on hold.

Balram Chainrai and Levi Kushnir won’t invest because they are looking to sell.

Meanwhile, Convers Sports Initiatives are in no position to invest because they haven’t purchased the club yet.

It’s a vicious circle which has left Cotterill in limbo.

It has also left Pompey with nine players for next season.

They are Hayden Mullins, Jamie Ashdown, Ricardo Rocha, Aaron Mokoena, Joel Ward, Kanu, Dave Kitson and Liam Lawrence.

Oh, and of course Ben Haim.

Of those in the current Pompey set-up, youngsters Marlon Pack and Tom Kilbey have already been told they will not be offered fresh deals.

Considered not of Championship standard, the duo must now look elsewhere to ply their trade.

Richard Hughes and Michael Brown have long possessed the knowledge their Fratton careers are over.

In the meantime, they have had to wait for their contracts to tick down before the inevitable parting of the ways.

Then there is Nadir Ciftci, who was offered a fresh contract earlier in the season.

Following two-and-a-half months of stalling, Cotterill learned elsewhere that the forward would not be putting pen to paper.

Ciftci has barely featured for the first-team since and is now set for a Turkish club as a free agent.

Meanwhile, Ibrahima Sonko, Carl Dickinson, Greg Halford, Jonathan Hogg, Ritchie de Laet and David Cotterill will all return to their parent clubs at the season’s end.

De Laet and Hogg have already indicated their willingness to return.

But while the ownership matter rumbles on, that will not happen.

Of those players the club owns and whose contracts end this summer, Nugent is the only one to have been approached.

Pompey’s leading scorer opened talks with the club in December but has since put everything on hold until the season’s end.

Effectively a free agent this summer, he is sure to attract plenty of interest.

It remains to be seen whether the Blues have the ambition and financial clout to keep him here.

Hreidarsson has recovered from a career-threatening injury to re-establish himself in the side.

But with his 37th birthday approaching in July, age may become an factor.

Then there is Webber – back from a year out injured and launching a late push to impress.

He has certainly caught the eye in one start and several brief substitute appearances.

It remains to be seen, though, whether he has done enough to convince Cotterill he is worthy of a new deal.

Finally, in terms of the first team, there is Flahavan.

Yet to make an appearance this season, the experienced keeper has been a regular on the bench.

Clearly a number two is required for Jamie Ashdown, with no youngsters yet ready to step up.

If Flahavan does not fit the bill, Cotterill will need to bring someone in.

Let’s also not forget youngsters Goddard, Martin, Gregory and Ryan – all of whom featured in the last pre-season.

However, the odds are stacked against them whether they will be around for the next one.

One thing for certain, however, is that there are nine players contracted for next season.

And it is essential at least 11 are brought in to supplement that number to give Cotterill a reasonable squad size. At least 11.

As ever, we wait and see what the future holds.

 

Gemmel, as usual Brilliant

[angelman]

Hreidarsson has recovered from a career-threatening injury to re-establish himself in the side.

 

But with his 37th birthday approaching in July, age may become an factor.

 

So of the 9....

 

one is not going to play but just collect £1.9m a year for doing nothing (good work if you can get it).

one is a sh*t goalkeeper

one is 37 and about to finish his career

one is about 57 (surprised they didn't mention him and his age). I think Herman needs to have a chat with Kanu to see what the secret of eternal youth is.

 

......and they get rid of youngsters cos they aren't of Championship quality. Well that is ironic as the Pompey certainly don't seem to be of Championship quality either.

 

It will be interesting to see what happens. Chin isn't going to put any more money in. What happens if the Ruskies don't get the club? Does it fold? If they do, presumably this would be post season's end - would a fourth team be promoted? Would that be the losers of the play-off?

 

And what happens if the Russians do take over. Someone said that their liabilities (inc Chin) would be £50m. And that is for a cr*p stadium with a cr*p group of players (I am not sure "squad" is applicable). They would need to find say 12 players to make up a squad of 20 (presuming ben Haim isn't included) and that would mean buying a fair few players. I am never sure of the rules about loanees - is it 5 can play or be named in the match day squad? You would have to be desperate to sign their as a full time player, unless you had a damn good contract. Anyway, say there would be a need to buy 7 players and ave 5 loans. What will that be - £10m or so?

 

Interesting times ahead.

[Foxstone]

Wonderful post Gemmel !

 

Just loved one of the comments on their realising that Kanu's 3 year deal was 1 year as a player and 2 years as a coach

" A coach" ! More like a charabanc

[Fowllyd]

http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/pompey/pompey-past/great-matches/numbers_don_t_add_up_for_threadbare_pompey_1_2612660

 

One of the responses on the News site, from a chap calling himself denmeadblue, seems remarkably intelligent:

 

Have the smallest sqaud? yes Have used least players? yes Highest wage bill? yes Outbid more financially stable clubs for players? yes Didnt SC and DL say 'quality over quantity'? yes £76k a week on 3 players next season? yes CVA to start paying back? yes TAKEOVER? NO We are beginning to reap what we sowed.One Cup, a game against AC Milan, a few trips to Wembley and a few seasons at the top table. Time to start paying back

 

It'll be interesting to see if he gets any response from the more rabid element...

[Minty]

The News need to sack their photographer as well, that's a shocking photo.

[redkeith]

The wage bill for the 9 remaining players comes to about £7M a year. I can't see a massive queue of clubs lining up to sign Ben Haim, let alone pay him £38 K per week.

 

I think the CVA terms give them a £10M a year total wage bill. Doesn't give them a lot of room for the 11 or so signings that they need .

[Gemmel]

The wage bill for the 9 remaining players comes to about £7M a year. I can't see a massive queue of clubs lining up to sign Ben Haim, let alone pay him £38 K per week.

 

I think the CVA terms give them a £10M a year total wage bill. Doesn't give them a lot of room for the 11 or so signings that they need .

 

Just to put some perspective on that, 5000 adult season tickets is about 2 million quid. Lawerence, kitson and ben haim's wages equate to 4 million a year.

[hypochondriac]

I love the tone of the article; it's almost as if it's the world's fault they're in that mess. Poor Pompey.

 

Love the line about Goddard, Martin, Gregory and Ryan. Four players there who they chose not to use.

[holepuncture]

Just to put some perspective on that, 5000 adult season tickets is about 2 million quid. Lawerence, kitson and ben haim's wages equate to 4 million a year.

 

wow, that really does give me some perspective, silly skates.

 

They will be lucky to scrape 10k season tickets for next season, no idea on how many adults are in those 10k, but maybe just enough to cover three legally contracted players for a season.

 

So thier entire ST revenue, assuming the Chin dosent bag all the cash first, is enough to cover three players.

 

The ST revenue will only cover three players.

 

Keep saying it and it just sounds so ridiculous.

 

And yet, they insist on telling all young, promising and contractually cheap to go and **** off!

 

i ****ing love the poopey. an excellent investment.

 

Looking forward to the tax evasion cases in the summer

[Chez]

I realise their squad will be decimated and even if free transfers are brought in they will incur sizeable signing on fees, but they will at least get rid of extremely high earners in Hughes, Brown, Nugent and Smith. Those four alone will free up wages for 10 or 12 NPC players.

 

Cleaning out the massive Prem wage earners is half the battle when a team goes down, although that has to be balanced with retaining some quality. Unfortunately in Haim they have an expense that offers no return at all. That said, Cotterill will have a much cleaner slate to work with this summer. The key for him is how quickly he can start adding to it, as last season he didn't start that process till it was almost too late. The best frees need to be tapped up now. The longer the takeover saga goes on the harder it will be.

 

I'm surprised Liam O'Brien is not seen as ready to step up to being Ashdown's number 2.

[Gemmel]

I realise their squad will be decimated and even if free transfers are brought in they will incur sizeable signing on fees, but they will at least get rid of extremely high earners in Hughes, Brown, Nugent and Smith. Those four alone will free up wages for 10 or 12 NPC players.

 

Cleaning out the massive Prem wage earners is half the battle when a team goes down, although that has to be balanced with retaining some quality. Unfortunately in Haim they have an expense that offers no return at all. That said, Cotterill will have a much cleaner slate to work with this summer. The key for him is how quickly he can start adding to it, as last season he didn't start that process till it was almost too late. The best frees need to be tapped up now. The longer the takeover saga goes on the harder it will be.

 

I'm surprised Liam O'Brien is not seen as ready to step up to being Ashdown's number 2.

 

They will sell Lawerence.... If we go up, it could be to us

[View From The Top]

Liam Lawrence is deffo being hawked about by his agent.

[Dark Munster]

So of the 9....

 

one is not going to play but just collect £1.9m a year for doing nothing (good work if you can get it).

one is a sh*t goalkeeper

one is 37 and about to finish his career

one is about 57 (surprised they didn't mention him and his age). I think Herman needs to have a chat with Kanu to see what the secret of eternal youth is.

 

......and they get rid of youngsters cos they aren't of Championship quality. Well that is ironic as the Pompey certainly don't seem to be of Championship quality either.

 

It will be interesting to see what happens. Chin isn't going to put any more money in. What happens if the Ruskies don't get the club? Does it fold? If they do, presumably this would be post season's end - would a fourth team be promoted? Would that be the losers of the play-off?

 

And what happens if the Russians do take over. Someone said that their liabilities (inc Chin) would be £50m. And that is for a cr*p stadium with a cr*p group of players (I am not sure "squad" is applicable). They would need to find say 12 players to make up a squad of 20 (presuming ben Haim isn't included) and that would mean buying a fair few players. I am never sure of the rules about loanees - is it 5 can play or be named in the match day squad? You would have to be desperate to sign their as a full time player, unless you had a damn good contract. Anyway, say there would be a need to buy 7 players and ave 5 loans. What will that be - £10m or so?

 

Interesting times ahead.

 

Something that the FL will very possibly need to think about in the upcoming weeks.

 

I suspect that they would regard the Cheats as being the third team relegated (out of existence ), sparing the 3rd from bottom club from being relegated. This would have a knock-on effect of one less team being relegated from L1 and L2.

 

So in summary, if the Cheats go out of existence 3 clubs are going to be very grateful, the other clubs will say good f*cking riddance, and that doesn't include the celebrations that will start in the non-degenerate parts of Hampshire.

 

Of course there will be the problem of finding clubs for their remaining players. All 9 of them.

[the colonel]

Where is corporal homo? Surely he can tells us that things are all is fine and what a fine example of a profession football club skatemouth is.

 

Corp me miss you. No one can match you for giving us a good laugh ......oooops sorry I meant take you seriously as you are obviously fully in the know.

 

Have you been laid off again and put on gardening leave cause you can't be trusted to see out your redundancy period.

 

Ho oh Ho where are you?

[Jonnyboy]

Our first season down we finished what? 12th? and then 6th.

 

Will be interesting to see how they compare...

[mack rill]

Our first season down we finished what? 12th? and then 6th.

 

Will be interesting to see how they compare...

 

Then wot append AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARH The Abyss

[Joey-deacons-left-nut]

We would have been fine if the Parachute money hadn't ended... would have been nice to have 4 years instead of two... still, it's the best thing that could have happened to us.

[pedg]

Where is corporal homo? Surely he can tells us that things are all is fine and what a fine example of a profession football club skatemouth is.

 

Corp me miss you. No one can match you for giving us a good laugh ......oooops sorry I meant take you seriously as you are obviously fully in the know.

 

Have you been laid off again and put on gardening leave cause you can't be trusted to see out your redundancy period.

 

Ho oh Ho where are you?

 

According to his profile (http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/member.php?2313-Corporate-Ho) he was on here not 2 days ago. Strange (or possibly not) that he has lost the ability to type.

[pedg]

Something that the FL will very possibly need to think about in the upcoming weeks.

 

I suspect that they would regard the Cheats as being the third team relegated (out of existence ), sparing the 3rd from bottom club from being relegated. This would have a knock-on effect of one less team being relegated from L1 and L2.

 

So in summary, if the Cheats go out of existence 3 clubs are going to be very grateful, the other clubs will say good f*cking riddance, and that doesn't include the celebrations that will start in the non-degenerate parts of Hampshire.

 

Of course there will be the problem of finding clubs for their remaining players. All 9 of them.

 

At what point in a season does a club have to provide proof that they can forfill their fixtures for the next season.

[gaz]

 

Ho oh Ho where are you?

 

Probs trying to work out how Riquelme and Maradona fit into the £10m a year budget.

[Jonnyboy]

Then wot append AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARH The Abyss

 

So your form could read, season 1 finished 16th, season 2 finished 24th, season 3 finished 24th, season 4....................

[pedg]

Next date for the diary: 9.30 tomorrow where, if Leeds beat Reading, pompeys thin mathematical chances of promotion will finally curl up, exhale deeply and then go pop.

[dubai_phil]

So.

 

Back to the Russians.

 

How exactly do you put a deal together from all the facts we know?

 

You give Chinny a quid & one of the parachute payments

 

You use the other Parachute to pay off the ain't gonna play again stupid wages

 

Leaves you with a club & the need to get some players in

 

So the only cost they REALLY have is the cost of paying off the Snotrill and hangers on and getting in a proper Lower League manager who knows how to build a squad up from nothing.

 

They ain't buried yet they could end up with owners who got them for a quid & don't have to put much money in

 

But wow, the Few are gonna have a heck of a mind shift to understand all of that