Golden Balls Posted 7 April, 2011 Share Posted 7 April, 2011 Just seen it on SSN. Sounds like a done deal and they will be squillionaires again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danish Saint Posted 7 April, 2011 Share Posted 7 April, 2011 The business partner of Mr. Dubov is one Vladimir Antonov. Article at http://www.rumafia.com/material.php?id=220 Especially like this part: New scam leads to Portsmouth Once the scheme of stealing money of the Central Bank failed to go through Urin, Alexander and Vladimir Antonov with Victor Yampolsky offered Mendeleev and the leadership of Russian Railways to carry it on. They found full support there. According to the bankers’ and state monopolies representatives’ plan, STB, on the edge of bankruptcy, will be merged with “The Bank of Savings and Loans" (Sberkredbank is owned by Vladimir Antonov). The new bank, based on its assets, may qualify for a stabilization loan from the Central Bank, which can amount to 10 billion rubles (about $ 320 million). Of this money 8 billion rubles will go to repay the debt to Russian Railways, about 800 million rubles to be transferred to MOITK (Moscow Regional Investment Trust Company), STB and the Antonovs being the old-time debtors. The funds from private individual deposits will add up to the remaining 1.2 billion rubles of the stabilization loan – the newly merged bank plans to offer good interest rates on deposits. The interested parties may thus divide among themselves more than 2 billion rubles and spend it at their discretion. For example, why not purchase the English "Portsmouth"? The newly merged bank will stay afloat for some time, then it can be driven to bankruptcy, assigning stabilization loan repayment to the Central Bank to Deposit Insurance Agency. According to Russian intelligence, the documents were recently filed in the Central Bank for the merger of STB and Sberkredbank, and they will be approved soon. Yampolsky was informed about this by Central Bank Deputy Chairman Melikian, who also promised that the newly merged bank will qualify for a stabilization loan for at least 10 billion rubles. Rumafia correspondents reported that in early February Yampolsky met with the head of the Russian Railways, Vladimir Yakunin. During the meeting they discussed the creation of the merged bank, what will happen to the debt and a possible stabilization loan from the Central Bank and the purchase of ... English Portsmouth. According to the same source, top managers of Russian Railways also expressed interest in the purchase of this football club. It is worth mentioning that Vladimir Antonov has been long haunted by the fame of Roman Abramovich who owns football club “Chelsea”. Antonov also wants to be a legal billionaire and owner of any team. Meanwhile, he cannot even become a legal owner of “Saab”. GM flatly refused to sell Saab to Spykers Cars for as long as Antonovs are the cowners of the latter. Father and son faked the sale of their stake in Spykers Cars (it was a bogus deal). This left Vladimir Antonov as of of the owners of Spykers Cars and the company then proceeded in purchasing Saab. Antonov just recently announced that he is going to purchase Spykers Cars again, which already owns Saab. Vladmir Antonov was not much more successful in purchasing a European football club. His negotiations to purchase “Glasgow Rangers” or "Bournemouth" ended in failure, after that he suddenly expressed interest in Russian football market. In 2010 he announced his intent to purchase Moscow Region “Saturn”. This was not a random choice. This club was on the edge of bankruptcy and owed 800 million rubles to MOITK. The amount of the debt became the purchase price for the club. The Antonovs, Yampolsky and STB were well familiar how to work with this entity, since they have been feeding on it for a long time. STB still owes 800 million rubles to MOITK. Antonov chose to play on this fact. He knows that this debt will be paid out of Central Bank budget, so you can just add couple hundred millions and get “Saturn” from MOITK. “Saturn” itself cannot pay a penny. However, Antonov’s plans did not find any support among his partners – Russian Railways already owns football club “Locomotiv”. As a result, “Saturn” has ceased to exist, and the masterminds of the grand scam decided to focus their efforts on the purchase of English “Portsmouth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danish Saint Posted 7 April, 2011 Share Posted 7 April, 2011 So if this deal goes through, Pompey will be owned by a couple of debt-ridden Russians, and only more criminal activity surrounding the club. Not even millionaires - just people buying companies on the verge of bankruptcy, milking a few millions of the Russian Central Bank, re-invest that money somewhere else and leaves the other company, as in Pompey, to rot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiesaint Posted 7 April, 2011 Share Posted 7 April, 2011 So if this deal goes through, Pompey will be owned by a couple of debt-ridden Russians, and only more criminal activity surrounding the club. Not even millionaires - just people buying companies on the verge of bankruptcy, milking a few millions of the Russian Central Bank, re-invest that money somewhere else and leaves the other company, as in Pompey, to rot... The problem here is that they cannot milk anyone over Portsmouth rotting carcase - the Russian central bank were only interested in trying to bale out an ailing Russian bank, not an ailing second teir team in a foreign country and Chinny will have long taken any parachute payments. Plus the guy wants to emulate Abramovich, that sounds more like trying put some of his funds into the club. Of course he may just be trying to use it to launder some of his alleged ill-gotten roubles - who would have thought of using Portsmouth for that?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack rill Posted 7 April, 2011 Share Posted 7 April, 2011 We all know the FA would never allow it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 7 April, 2011 Share Posted 7 April, 2011 We all know the FA would never allow it. Considering one of your recent previous owners didn't even exist I wouldn't count on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 7 April, 2011 Share Posted 7 April, 2011 Considering one of your recent previous owners didn't even exist I wouldn't count on it Genuine LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjwills Posted 7 April, 2011 Share Posted 7 April, 2011 Is this that lot that Bournemouth turned down, getting confused on who is trying to buy them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danish Saint Posted 7 April, 2011 Share Posted 7 April, 2011 The problem here is that they cannot milk anyone over Portsmouth rotting carcase - the Russian central bank were only interested in trying to bale out an ailing Russian bank, not an ailing second teir team in a foreign country and Chinny will have long taken any parachute payments. Plus the guy wants to emulate Abramovich, that sounds more like trying put some of his funds into the club. Of course he may just be trying to use it to launder some of his alleged ill-gotten roubles - who would have thought of using Portsmouth for that?! You're right. I stand corrected. So the question remains the same: Why would anyone buy Pompey? Well, apart from getting the 10.000 bestest fans in the world that is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 7 April, 2011 Share Posted 7 April, 2011 were these the Ruskies who owned a bank and had their offices in some back water of London above some music shop? I get very confused with the comings and goings of Poopey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 7 April, 2011 Share Posted 7 April, 2011 for your information Sue, The gates of St. James Hilton are no longer locked, We are,,,,i mean they are free to mingle with the rest of us.,,,,,,,,,,,The trick is can u spot em! Are they the ones with webbed fingers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 7 April, 2011 Share Posted 7 April, 2011 Embarrassingly Mack had heard it was just some fitty who was younger than Rixy thought. onist! Aksherly, we're inclined to believe you on this. But spotting residents of St James: well, how the heck are we going to spot any of the pysch patients amongst the general population, c'mon now! I presume The Old House at Home must be benefitting from any open door policy: Pompey Royal on prescription would be great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danish Saint Posted 8 April, 2011 Share Posted 8 April, 2011 were these the Ruskies who owned a bank and had their offices in some back water of London above some music shop? I get very confused with the comings and goings of Poopey. Not quite right.... this Dubov chap is the business partner of the guy, Antonov, who owns a bank over a music store, as far as I've gathered. So clearly, they've moved up a bit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danish Saint Posted 8 April, 2011 Share Posted 8 April, 2011 I see Mr. Dubov has made some changes to his website: http://www.dubov.co.uk/portfolio/ Gone are now some of his old "companies" and has replaced them with even more dubious "companies". This time, there isn't even a homepage for the individual companies, just a short resume written apparantly by Mr. Dubov himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 8 April, 2011 Share Posted 8 April, 2011 Spyker + General motors + Saab + Vladimir Antonov = FBI investigation......... http://www.rnw.nl/english/article/troubled-path-saab-takeover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 8 April, 2011 Share Posted 8 April, 2011 http://www.dubov.co.uk/contact-me/ Anyone with some spare time today might like to let him know what a bargain he is getting, or simply post the URL of this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted 8 April, 2011 Share Posted 8 April, 2011 oh he knows exactly what he's after, a shell of a company that can cope with large amounts of cash going in, sloshing around and coming out again. There is little at pompey to attract a serious businessman hence the lack of interest and quality of the last few owners. They need someone who isn't interested in making money - a billionaire fan or a supporters buyout? But they would need £30M for starters which is a lot of tarmac jobs and lucky heather sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiesaint Posted 8 April, 2011 Share Posted 8 April, 2011 http://www.dubov.co.uk/contact-me/ Anyone with some spare time today might like to let him know what a bargain he is getting, or simply post the URL of this thread I suspect they know exactly what they're getting. I also suspect that if they take over then there will be some changes behind the scenes, a large expansion of the kit room facilities will be followed by the people who wash the shirts being quietly replaced some rather large Russian gentlemen who will be seen entering and leaving with copious quantities of brown envelopes stuffed full of you know what!! Allegedly, of course! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanimal Posted 8 April, 2011 Share Posted 8 April, 2011 SSN have 3 lines on it now so it must be true surely? Substantive and credible, FL examing papers....At least we are back to a Takeover Saga!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz Posted 8 April, 2011 Share Posted 8 April, 2011 Pompey are like the trampy tart at the School disco. Everyone's had a go on her, and the only ones still interested are the ones you wouldn't take home to your parents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 8 April, 2011 Share Posted 8 April, 2011 oh he knows exactly what he's after, a shell of a company that can cope with large amounts of cash going in, sloshing around and coming out again. There is little at pompey to attract a serious businessman hence the lack of interest and quality of the last few owners. They need someone who isn't interested in making money - a billionaire fan or a supporters buyout? But they would need £30M for starters which is a lot of tarmac jobs and lucky heather sales. You know I've heard local police and lawyers talking about the prevalence of Russian mafia activity in Hampshire, but of course I would not want make any link here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danish Saint Posted 8 April, 2011 Share Posted 8 April, 2011 The funny thing is, that when you do a simple Google seach on these two characters, Dubov and Antonov, you first get loads of references to their proposed takeover at either Bournemouth or Pompey. After you filter those away, you get loads of stories about their ties to the Russian mafia. When you filter those away it goes very quiet on both these guys.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Lindford Posted 8 April, 2011 Share Posted 8 April, 2011 These are the same chancers who tried it on at Bompey the other year. Mitchell told them to take a hike I seem to remember for not having enough money............. Seems about right they are looking down the road then, bargin basement or pound shop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 8 April, 2011 Share Posted 8 April, 2011 (edited) OK so the thing to watch out for is not a Yacht, but one of those incredibly expensive McLaren motor cars. A mate spotted it when it turned up at Dean Park early last year Apparently they are so common that Eddie Mitchells' car was also parked next to one in Bompey not some 12 weeks ago. Don't under-estimate a genuine interest in football Interesting figure on that rumour mill site, seem to recall there was some discussion in the Bompey Echo as to net wealth If they're buying the few, then no doubt 91 other clubs can breathe a sigh of relief including Mitchell and others I'm sure Edited 8 April, 2011 by dubai_phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 8 April, 2011 Share Posted 8 April, 2011 Considering one of your recent previous owners didn't even exist I wouldn't count on it Wooooosh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 8 April, 2011 Share Posted 8 April, 2011 What an amusing co-incidence Vladimir Antonov Roman Dubrov And Interpol purely co-incidentally which causes a smirk not an allegation whatsoever... http://www.interpol.int/public/Data/Wanted/Notices/Data/2004/53/2004_3153.asp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 8 April, 2011 Share Posted 8 April, 2011 The BBC are not shy in reporting the ongoing excuses without mentioning the other side of the argument : http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/13015475.stm It never ceases to amaze me that they totally ignore the millions written off, the raping of local businesses, the stolen charity money etc.. etc.. They seem to condone the suggestion of " we've been hard done by" and naively print that they were short of subs at the beginning of the season without demanding the reason why ! It makes me sick, it does ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted 8 April, 2011 Share Posted 8 April, 2011 The BBC are not shy in reporting the ongoing excuses without mentioning the other side of the argument : http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/13015475.stm It never ceases to amaze me that they totally ignore the millions written off, the raping of local businesses, the stolen charity money etc.. etc.. They seem to condone the suggestion of " we've been hard done by" and naively print that they were short of subs at the beginning of the season without demanding the reason why ! It makes me sick, it does ! Look at the five "see also" headlines at the side. Perhaps someone is trying be sarcastic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 8 April, 2011 Share Posted 8 April, 2011 (edited) What an amusing co-incidence Vladimir Antonov Roman Dubrov And Interpol purely co-incidentally which causes a smirk not an allegation whatsoever... http://www.interpol.int/public/Data/Wanted/Notices/Data/2004/53/2004_3153.asp LOL I really hope the takeover goes through I wonder if that bloke actually exists . . Edited 8 April, 2011 by JackFrost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 8 April, 2011 Share Posted 8 April, 2011 OK some points. Eddie Mitchell turned the Russians down because he did not think they were real and at that time had a link to Bompey's nemesis, Cherrypip. They are real, they have a lot of money They have been trying to buy a number of clubs They are not Billionaires They are not completely stupid, so must have seen an angle In theory if they got the few debt free (so to speak) and for a quid they would be OK finance wise in the NPC. But I should think the first thing that would go would be the ludicrous quality approach of Armpit & Snivelrill But then hey what do I know, I reckoned Tiger would shock everyone and make the top 5 at The Masters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrZuess1979 the 2nd Posted 8 April, 2011 Share Posted 8 April, 2011 OK some points. Eddie Mitchell turned the Russians down because he did not think they were real and at that time had a link to Bompey's nemesis, Cherrypip. They are real, they have a lot of money They have been trying to buy a number of clubs They are not Billionaires They are not completely stupid, so must have seen an angle In theory if they got the few debt free (so to speak) and for a quid they would be OK finance wise in the NPC. But I should think the first thing that would go would be the ludicrous quality approach of Armpit & Snivelrill But then hey what do I know, I reckoned Tiger would shock everyone and make the top 5 at The Masters Still time !!!! I believe in you phil !) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 9 April, 2011 Share Posted 9 April, 2011 So if this deal goes through, Pompey will be owned by a couple of debt-ridden Russians, and only more criminal activity surrounding the club. Not even millionaires - just people buying companies on the verge of bankruptcy, milking a few millions of the Russian Central Bank, re-invest that money somewhere else and leaves the other company, as in Pompey, to rot... It's just like the fun kid's game of pass the parcel. Except that this parcel is full of shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 9 April, 2011 Share Posted 9 April, 2011 Zebra finance have issued a statement this morning that if for any reason pompey are unable to fulfil their fixtures, under the consumer credit act, supporters will get a refund. What a strange statement to make, is the take up that low that they are trying to reassure the fans or is it something more sinister. Bizarre. But not necessarily a full refund? Perhaps they consider 1p in the pound as a refund. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidthesquid Posted 9 April, 2011 Share Posted 9 April, 2011 But not necessarily a full refund? Perhaps they consider 1p in the pound as a refund. Over five years, naturally, less expenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 9 April, 2011 Share Posted 9 April, 2011 Pompey yet again seem to have got away with it again. We just have to hope the Ruskies dont go through with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 9 April, 2011 Share Posted 9 April, 2011 Pompey yet again seem to have got away with it again. We just have to hope the Ruskies dont go through with it. Yep Although of course what would be funnier would be to go through with it and for them to have only a shoestring budget and even worse flotsam and jetsam around them than some of their previous owners But to give a teeny tiny bit of hope I will throw two words into the mix - property speculation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 9 April, 2011 Share Posted 9 April, 2011 Yep Although of course what would be funnier would be to go through with it and for them to have only a shoestring budget and even worse flotsam and jetsam around them than some of their previous owners But to give a teeny tiny bit of hope I will throw two words into the mix - property speculation it needs Mark to throw a spanner in the works for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 9 April, 2011 Share Posted 9 April, 2011 But to give a teeny tiny bit of hope I will throw two words into the mix - property speculation Ah yes, an opportunity to sing one of my favourite songs: "Fratton PArk is a future block of flat, future block of flats, future block of flats" or hopefully, next season (assuming Pompey don't go down...) "We're all standing on a future block of flat, future block of flats, future block of flats" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 9 April, 2011 Share Posted 9 April, 2011 Yep Although of course what would be funnier would be to go through with it and for them to have only a shoestring budget and even worse flotsam and jetsam around them than some of their previous owners But to give a teeny tiny bit of hope I will throw two words into the mix - property speculation Say what!! the new company/club, doesn't have any property, they rent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 9 April, 2011 Share Posted 9 April, 2011 Say what!! the new company/club, doesn't have any property, they rent! Pah, not a problem I'm stil rofl'ing at the idea of agent Cherrypip getting to work for us on the inside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danish Saint Posted 9 April, 2011 Share Posted 9 April, 2011 A draw against Preston just put another mayor dent in their "push for promotion".... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiesaint Posted 9 April, 2011 Share Posted 9 April, 2011 (edited) A draw against Preston just put another mayor dent in their "push for promotion".... More like it's put a hole in it just below the waterline They need Leeds to lose 3 and draw 1 of their remaining 6 games, not to mention results for 7 other sides in between going the few's way. Edited 9 April, 2011 by Gorgiesaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 9 April, 2011 Share Posted 9 April, 2011 Promotion playing, super-duper bestest fans in the world out in force today... just over 14,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 9 April, 2011 Share Posted 9 April, 2011 A quick peak at their squad on wiki makes for amusing reading next season. If you take away the loan players, I reckon that leaves them with: Ashdown - 30 years old Hreidarrson - 37 years old Mullins - 32 years old Webber - 29 Years old Kitson - 31 years old Ward - 21 Years old Ciftci - 19 years old Kanu - 35 years old Rocha - 32 years old Flahavan - 32 years old 10 players, 7 of them in their 30s and half of them are probably out of contract anyway (Can anyone confirm who?) God in heaven, I hope we go up. Brighton have already got their Championship slot bought and paid for. They will probably finish above Pompey and take the p*ss something rotten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedg Posted 9 April, 2011 Share Posted 9 April, 2011 A quick peak at their squad on wiki makes for amusing reading next season. If you take away the loan players, I reckon that leaves them with: Ashdown - 30 years old Hreidarrson - 37 years old Mullins - 32 years old Webber - 29 Years old Kitson - 31 years old Ward - 21 Years old Ciftci - 19 years old Kanu - 35 years old and then some Rocha - 32 years old Flahavan - 32 years old 10 players, 7 of them in their 30s and half of them are probably out of contract anyway (Can anyone confirm who?) God in heaven, I hope we go up. Brighton have already got their Championship slot bought and paid for. They will probably finish above Pompey and take the p*ss something rotten. Luckily the government have changed the rules so you can't be forced to retire at 65 so they have got a few more years of Kanu yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack rill Posted 9 April, 2011 Share Posted 9 April, 2011 A quick peak at their squad on wiki makes for amusing reading next season. If you take away the loan players, I reckon that leaves them with: Ashdown - 30 years old Hreidarrson - 37 years old Mullins - 32 years old Webber - 29 Years old Kitson - 31 years old Ward - 21 Years old Ciftci - 19 years old Kanu - 35 years old Rocha - 32 years old Flahavan - 32 years old 10 players, 7 of them in their 30s and half of them are probably out of contract anyway (Can anyone confirm who?) God in heaven, I hope we go up. Brighton have already got their Championship slot bought and paid for. They will probably finish above Pompey and take the p*ss something rotten. The Shythawks finishing above us next season is not the issue, There are at least two tickets to the dance next season providing you stable boys don't Phuxitup. Oh and King Kanooooooooo is at least 50 already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 9 April, 2011 Share Posted 9 April, 2011 A quick peak at their squad on wiki makes for amusing reading next season. If you take away the loan players, I reckon that leaves them with: Ashdown - 30 years old Hreidarrson - 37 years old Mullins - 32 years old Webber - 29 Years old Kitson - 31 years old Ward - 21 Years old Ciftci - 19 years old Kanu - 35 years old Rocha - 32 years old Flahavan - 32 years old 10 players, 7 of them in their 30s and half of them are probably out of contract anyway (Can anyone confirm who?) God in heaven, I hope we go up. Brighton have already got their Championship slot bought and paid for. They will probably finish above Pompey and take the p*ss something rotten. Hasn't Ciftci made it quite clear that he is not going to sign any contract with skatesfc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 9 April, 2011 Share Posted 9 April, 2011 :lol: :lol: Kanu 35!!!! Maybe 53 would be more accurate! :lol: :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 9 April, 2011 Share Posted 9 April, 2011 The Shythawks finishing above us next season is not the issue, There are at least two tickets to the dance next season providing you stable boys don't Phuxitup. Oh and King Kanooooooooo is at least 50 already Maybe, but you will have to put up with endless Brighton fans telling you it is. We've had a year of the same with Bompey (although they've been a bit quieter in recent weeks) and Reading, for some reason, in 2006. Saints are very much looking forward to the ball next season (not counting our chickens yet). It's a shame our date can't afford a limo, a dress or any champagne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 9 April, 2011 Share Posted 9 April, 2011 Looks like a few south coast Derby's are on the cards next season then. Shame bompy have fallen away a little. But with Pompey looking like they will still be there, Brighton pretty much certain to go up and us with only relying on ourselves there are at least 4 matches that will mean something no matter where we finish. Will Brighton be able to improve their squad? Will Pompey have a squad? Will our squad get stronger? Can't wait!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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