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Brian Rix? .. but wasn't he the actor chappie who was always involved in a farce?

 

Oh, seems I got it right then ... :rolleyes:

 

You mean the guy who always ended with his trousers round his ankles? I thought that was their previous manager...

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Cotterill - ‘I can’t make any summer plans at the moment, I just can’t.

 

‘I would like to do a bit more but at the moment I can’t. Don’t ask why, that is just how it is.

 

Sinister statement - is he not sure he will be there, or not sure if the owner will be there?

They still seem short of a cohesive plan that goes beyond trying to find the next wages.

 

But he isn't as dim as I thought -

‘There definitely needs to be some investment in the playing side, for sure.

 

Oh hang on, yes he is, he still hasn't grasped the concept of a 46 game season.

 

‘We want quality over quantity. There is no point having players for every day of the week when all they do is play on Saturday.

 

That daft idea for any financially unstable business is one defeat away from being exposed as a mistake this season, yet he wants to try it again.

Still gambling.

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Cotterill - ‘I can’t make any summer plans at the moment, I just can’t.

 

‘I would like to do a bit more but at the moment I can’t. Don’t ask why, that is just how it is.

 

Sinister statement - is he not sure he will be there, or not sure if the owner will be there?

They still seem short of a cohesive plan that goes beyond trying to find the next wages.

 

But he isn't as dim as I thought -

‘There definitely needs to be some investment in the playing side, for sure.

 

Oh hang on, yes he is, he still hasn't grasped the concept of a 46 game season.

 

‘We want quality over quantity. There is no point having players for every day of the week when all they do is play on Saturday.

 

That daft idea for any financially unstable business is one defeat away from being exposed as a mistake this season, yet he wants to try it again.

Still gambling.

 

The funny thing is I can imagine him running all over the place lining up this player and that - and now the penny has dropped, it isn't going to happen.

 

I've always pinned my hat up on them getting a points deduction next season that, together with a two bit team of free's and loans will result in relegation, but with the league still monitoring them very closely and next season having to cough up the CVA payments (And all creditors under 3k, getting full whack - which was supposed to have been paid months ago) if Chanerai has a plan b, I'm not sure the blue few will like it very much. Could be an intresting close season.

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Unbelievable that Clotterill is still advocating a quality over quantity approach yet wanting a bigger squad than this season on reduced wages. Seems like they are attempting a quality AND quantity approach to me, certainly in comparison to this season. Once again they are gambling with the finances in order to get players and produce performance which are above their status as a club. What's most galling is that they will bleat on about how hard done by they are the entire time!

 

If they got a bunch of journeymen pros, played some of their youngsters with potential (I'm looking at the likes of Pack, Ciftci, Ward and Ritchie most of which I believe have either been sold for a nominal fee or given away) and adjusted to their realistic status as a club (somewhere above S****horpe I would suggest, where avoiding relegation should be deemed a success.) then they would gain a modicum of respect from he rest of the footballing world.

 

At least when we went into admin we were consoled by the fact that we cut our cloth and did everything we could to avoid it. Following relegation we vowed we would never be in that situation again. The festering pile of rotting garbage that is PFC used admin as a get out of jail card, and means they can continue to offer contracts well in excess of what the majority of NPC clubs can afford, despite many of these clubs having higher attendances than them, higher sources of income and not having gone into admin writing off tens of milions in the process. It is disgusting that PFC have been able to payback a tiny percentage of what they owe so that they are free to spend remaining cash on the likes of Lawrence, Norris and Hogg, outbidding even wealthy clubs like QPR and Ipswich.

 

They are a streaming open sore on the face of football and nothing would please me more than for them to be relegated next season, not for their previous indiscretions but for their continuing defiance which spits in the faces of the charities, schools and local businesses they have conned

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Unbelievable that Clotterill is still advocating a quality over quantity approach yet wanting a bigger squad than this season on reduced wages. Seems like they are attempting a quality AND quantity approach to me, certainly in comparison to this season. Once again they are gambling with the finances in order to get players and produce performance which are above their status as a club. What's most galling is that they will bleat on about how hard done by they are the entire time!

 

If they got a bunch of journeymen pros, played some of their youngsters with potential (I'm looking at the likes of Pack, Ciftci, Ward and Ritchie most of which I believe have either been sold for a nominal fee or given away) and adjusted to their realistic status as a club (somewhere above S****horpe I would suggest, where avoiding relegation should be deemed a success.) then they would gain a modicum of respect from he rest of the footballing world.

 

At least when we went into admin we were consoled by the fact that we cut our cloth and did everything we could to avoid it. Following relegation we vowed we would never be in that situation again. The festering pile of rotting garbage that is PFC used admin as a get out of jail card, and means they can continue to offer contracts well in excess of what the majority of NPC clubs can afford, despite many of these clubs having higher attendances than them, higher sources of income and not having gone into admin writing off tens of milions in the process. It is disgusting that PFC have been able to payback a tiny percentage of what they owe so that they are free to spend remaining cash on the likes of Lawrence, Norris and Hogg, outbidding even wealthy clubs like QPR and Ipswich.

 

They are a streaming open sore on the face of football and nothing would please me more than for them to be relegated next season, not for their previous indiscretions but for their continuing defiance which spits in the faces of the charities, schools and local businesses they have conned

 

Well, that pretty much sums how I feel. Nice one. Though I would like to add that I wouldn't be adverse to seeing them going into a neverending spiral of failure, points deductions and relegations for the rest of my entire life.

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sidthesquid

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yep, spent 6 months in jail and got put on the sex offenders register during his time at chelsea before he got taken on by pompey - sex offenders, fraudsters, arms dealers - you name it pompey have had it.

 

"if you tolerate rix, then your children will be next...."

 

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Lets look at their starting 11 from Saturday:

 

Ashdown- Getting what they can afford in and getting him to perform well. No problem with me here. Goof start for PFC.

 

De Laet- On loan from United. Cannot imagine he is on tiny wages and no doubt there were others who were outbid for this loan.

 

Halford- A decent championship player. Signed for Wolves in the Premiership so will be on a decent wedge. I am sure that many NPC would love to have him. Scandalous that Portsmouth were able to 'afford' a player of this quality. No doubt we would have loved someone like this in our admin season but sensibly decided it would have been beyond us.

 

Rocha- Portsmouth's best player this year by all accounts. Played for Tottenham and was one of the Skate's best performers in the Prem. Almost certainly lower premiership class and would not have accepted tiny wages. Another scandal.

 

Hreidarsson- Turned down offers from Rangers and reportedly Celtic who would have at least offered him decent championship wages. The fact that they are able to offer good wages to a quality international (albeit an old one) who can turn down other offers is disgusting.

 

Cotterill- Fair enough, getting in a promising player from a fellow NPC team. No problem with that as I see it.

 

Hogg- Promising youngster but I don't have a real problem with the Skates signing someone like this, although his wages may be slightly higher than some lower championship clubs could really afford and no doubt they outbid other teams for his signature.

 

Mullins- No doubt on a large wedge for a NPC team. Little attempt to sell him in the summer or January, if PFC were serious they would sub a percentage of his wages and get him off the books. They would save a little bit that way but no they want to reap the playing benefits whilst ignoring finances. Disgusting.

 

Lawrence- Need I say more? Probably the most outrageous of all the players on display, still rated by Stoke players when he signed, PFC beat off a host of clubs looking to sign him including other clubs who were much more comfortable financially such as QPR. Reportedly on 15K a week. Utterly shocking.

 

Nugent- Former England international, clearly good enough for lower premiership and upper championship teams, is also reportedly on astronomical wages. Cotterill has been bleating in the press for weeks about how they are trying to sign him up for a new contract next year, presumably on slightly lower yet still mental wages, yet they could easily sell him and make a million pounds, think how much difference a sum like that could make. It says everything about Fish FCs mentality that they are looking to extend highly paid player's contracts rather than look to offload them.

 

Kitson- Another one reportedly on huge wages, signed when PFC were meant to be cutting their cloth last summer. Has been very bad for them so has little resale value so almost certainly lost money on that one. What an obscene display of cheating.

 

Subs:

 

Flahavan- Nothing wrong with that for me. When he signed before Lawrence and Kitson did, I thought PFC had learnt their lesson. I was wrong.

 

Dickinson- another prem loanee but just about acceptable (that and he has been responsible for many of their losses this year so I like him :) ).

 

Mokoena- Another international. Was a great performer for them in midfield last season and was reportedly wanted by prem clubs. What do PFC do? Make a statement saying their players are for sale and look to offload him and his clearly large wages? Offer to subsidise a portion of the wages of give him to a club on a free to keep costs down? No, they keep him and have a squad so strong that they can afford to leave him on the bench. Repulsive.

 

Ward- A player who really should be starting if PFC are serious about cutting costs.

 

Ciftci- Ditto but I hear he could be let go in the summer, probably for nothing like his predecessors.

 

Kanu- Fair enough.

 

Webber- A decent championship performer. OK he has been injured but I wonder if he performs well between now and the end of the season whether they will allow him to leave and make some money on him? I very much doubt it.

 

 

So out of a squad of eighteen, I make that just eight, if we are generous, that are evidence of Portsmouth looking to cut costs and not trying to gain an advantage over championship rivals that they cannot realistically afford (and only two if you just look at the starting eleven!) If I recall correctly, Ciftci and Ward are also being let go at the end of the season (apologies if not, I'm not a PFC expert.)

 

It really is a wonder that the authorities haven't made more of an issue out of it.

 

One other thing, I hear that Cotterill is researching the USA and Thailand as locations for their pre season tour. What a f*cking joke.

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The more you see and hear from down the road the more you are forced to wonder if all this season's goings on was one last throw of the dice. You can imagine Clampitt & Cotterill pleading with/convincing Chainrai to defer the CVA payments and blow all the parachute money on a quality over quantity squad for a sh1t or bust try for promotion to the promised land this season. They might still get there but it looks less and less likely.

But realistically, this season was there one and only hope. Inconveniently, by next season the CVA will have to start, the parachute money will be seriously diminished, contracts will be up on their better players, Storrie could be banged up and blabbing to avoid being molested in the showers and HMRC have not entirely gone away. Only one more season in the Prem gains them £40million - worth a shot, because if it fails, Chainrai can still get his investment back from the corpse and move on, but the blue few should be planning for the Wessex League.

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Looking at their starting XI with subs: How many of those players are out of contract by the end of the season?

 

Loans:

De Laet

Halford,

Cotterill

Hogg

Dickinson

 

Out of Contract

Hreidarsson,

Nugent

 

 

Will be Off

Lawrence

Mokoena

Ciftci

Ward

 

so potentially left with Kitson (on huge wages) Flahavan, Mullins, Ashdown, Rocha, Kanu (lol two years left on his contract) and Webber although I'm not certain about Ciftci and Ward. We all know it won't happen like that though, Steve has already enquired about signing Halford and Cotterill permanently I believe. David Norris is widely reported as coming in and there will be other Kitson and Lawrence signings no doubt.

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So if they did get a load of Lawrence/Kitson like signings in next year, would this be funded by what's left of the parachute money or would they need Chainrai to chuck yet more loans at it?

 

They most likely have a modest budget. Rather than say sign three players on just over 3K each, they will sign one on over 10K then moan about having no squad depth.

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Well, that pretty much sums how I feel. Nice one. Though I would like to add that I wouldn't be adverse to seeing them going into a neverending spiral of failure, points deductions and relegations for the rest of my entire life.

 

Not aiming to be around to long then Crabby!

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Yep, spent 6 months in jail and got put on the sex offenders register during his time at Chelsea BEFORE he got taken on by Pompey - sex offenders, fraudsters, arms dealers - you name it Pompey have had it.

 

"If you tolerate Rix, then your children will be next...."

 

Oh come on, Rixy made the same mistake any (ott young blooded male), could make, The club was full of scanty dressed painted up dolly birds with there Bapps pulled up round there earholes,

How many of you fiddlers could honestly say they would know the difference between a young fitty well dressed up, and a 20 year old, (well your **** don't)

Rix made a few mistakes,

One He picked the wrong fitty

Two He got caught

Three The Beak was more than likely an old bag who had never put the cat out.

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Oh come on, Rixy made the same mistake any (ott young blooded male), could make, The club was full of scanty dressed painted up dolly birds with there Bapps pulled up round there earholes,

How many of you fiddlers could honestly say they would know the difference between a young fitty well dressed up, and a 20 year old, (well your **** don't)

Rix made a few mistakes,

One He picked the wrong fitty

Two He got caught

Three The Beak was more than likely an old bag who had never put the cat out.

 

Defend pedos all you like, but bottom line is Rix is a kiddy fiddler. Fact. And so is Gary Glitter, another of Portsmyths finest.

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Oh come on, Rixy made the same mistake any (ott young blooded male), could make, The club was full of scanty dressed painted up dolly birds with there Bapps pulled up round there earholes,

How many of you fiddlers could honestly say they would know the difference between a young fitty well dressed up, and a 20 year old, (well your **** don't)

Rix made a few mistakes,

One He picked the wrong fitty

Two He got caught

Three The Beak was more than likely an old bag who had never put the cat out.

 

She was the daughter of a family friend, he knew exactly how old she was. And don't forget Pompey gave him the manager's job AFTER he became a registered sex offender - you must be so proud.

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Mack makes a good point - what's so wrong with a 41 year old father of four ****ging a 15 year old girl?

Doesn't sound pervy at all when you put it like that.

If they've left school they are old enough - and she left school at 3.30pm.

 

Anyway, what happens in Paulsgrove stays in Paulsgrove.

What he does in his own time is only a matter for him, the police, the court, the prison service, the victim, the sex offender's register, and his wife and kids - what a load of fuss over nothing.

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Mack makes a good point - what's so wrong with a 41 year old father of four ****ging a 15 year old girl?

Doesn't sound pervy at all when you put it like that.

If they've left school they are old enough - and she left school at 3.30pm.

 

Anyway, what happens in Paulsgrove stays in Paulsgrove.

What he does in his own time is only a matter for him, the police, the court, the prison service, the victim, the sex offender's register, and his wife and kids - what a load of fuss over nothing.

 

They'll still be defending 'Arry as well if he finally gets busted..

 

After all nobody down there pays any taxes being on benefits and all, so they won't see it as an issue, more a role model

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Mack makes a good point - what's so wrong with a 41 year old father of four ****ging a 15 year old girl?

Doesn't sound pervy at all when you put it like that.

If they've left school they are old enough - and she left school at 3.30pm.

 

Anyway, what happens in Paulsgrove stays in Paulsgrove.

What he does in his own time is only a matter for him, the police, the court, the prison service, the victim, the sex offender's register, and his wife and kids - what a load of fuss over nothing.

 

:lol:

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So if they did get a load of Lawrence/Kitson like signings in next year, would this be funded by what's left of the parachute money or would they need Chainrai to chuck yet more loans at it?

 

I don't think Chinny's going to make that mistake again. Plan B is probably coming up soon, and I'd pay good money to see the look on TCWTB's face when it does (which would be the only time I would want to see TCWTB's face).

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The more you see and hear from down the road the more you are forced to wonder if all this season's goings on was one last throw of the dice. You can imagine Clampitt & Cotterill pleading with/convincing Chainrai to defer the CVA payments and blow all the parachute money on a quality over quantity squad for a sh1t or bust try for promotion to the promised land this season. They might still get there but it looks less and less likely.

But realistically, this season was there one and only hope. Inconveniently, by next season the CVA will have to start, the parachute money will be seriously diminished, contracts will be up on their better players, Storrie could be banged up and blabbing to avoid being molested in the showers and HMRC have not entirely gone away. Only one more season in the Prem gains them £40million - worth a shot, because if it fails, Chainrai can still get his investment back from the corpse and move on, but the blue few should be planning for the Wessex League.

 

I think that sums it up rather nicely.

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Oh come on, Rixy made the same mistake any (ott young blooded male), could make, The club was full of scanty dressed painted up dolly birds with there Bapps pulled up round there earholes,

How many of you fiddlers could honestly say they would know the difference between a young fitty well dressed up, and a 20 year old, (well your **** don't)

Rix made a few mistakes,

One He picked the wrong fitty

Two He got caught

Three The Beak was more than likely an old bag who had never put the cat out.

 

:lol:

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Zebra finance have issued a statement this morning that if for any reason pompey are unable to fulfil their fixtures, under the consumer credit act, supporters will get a refund.

 

What a strange statement to make, is the take up that low that they are trying to reassure the fans or is it something more sinister. Bizarre.

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They've also got to unload Richard Hughes, Michael Brown and Ben Haim, whats that, nearly £100k a week wages between them.

 

Had to laugh, looked on PFC website and the main advert is Cruises From Southampton,almost deliberate.

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Zebra finance have issued a statement this morning that if for any reason pompey are unable to fulfil their fixtures, under the consumer credit act, supporters will get a refund.

 

What a strange statement to make, is the take up that low that they are trying to reassure the fans or is it something more sinister. Bizarre.

 

 

Isn't it strange how this reassuring statement was issued a few days AFTER the early bird deadline for renewing season tickets had expired.

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Isn't it strange how this reassuring statement was issued a few days AFTER the early bird deadline for renewing season tickets had expired.

I think they agreed to extend it for another 3 or 4 weeks. Presumably the only renewal form they'd received in the first two weeks came from a Mr B Chainrai...

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they could be sold within a week -

if the latest blatantly obvious money-laundering operation passes the FaPPT

if the potential new owners don't get shot again

if due diligence doesn't throw up any past wrongdoing

if their links to organised crime are ignored

if they don't care about the tax evasion cases pending

if Chanrai is prepared to give up on any profit.

 

Yes, I fully expect to see new owners proudly holding up pompey scarves before next thursday.

(conditions apply)

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You're wrong; I believe the application came from St. James' Hospital...

 

for your information Sue, The gates of St. James Hilton are no longer locked, We are,,,,i mean they are free to mingle with the rest of us.,,,,,,,,,,,The trick is can u spot em!

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"Keith Harris, chairman of investment bankers Seymour Pierce, which has been given the job of finding new owners, said he would ‘not dismiss’ the claim that the frontrunners in the bid to takeover the club is the Russian-backed Convers Sports Initiatives company."

 

 

Well done Keith

 

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