Gemmel Posted 12 January, 2011 Share Posted 12 January, 2011 Lungs it gets worse and this just epitomises everything about them. In response to what you have cut and pasted above ... I posted a list of 20 odd professionals that had come through the academy (Which was off the top of my head, i am sure there are more; Olly Lancashire Drew Surman Joseph Mills Jake Thompson Chris Baird (Ish…. Took him on young) Simon Gillet Lloyd James Martin Cranie Theo Walcott Gareth Bale Adam Lallana Ox Chamberlin Wayne Bridge Leon Best Aron Davies Oscar Gobern Nathan Dyer Matthew Mills David Mcgoldrick (came to us late but brought through acdamey) Nile Ranger This is their reply (Quite staggering) just for Gemmel post 121- good work and that's pretty impressive I must say) Oh but where has it got your club exactly ?? We produced nothing and won F.A Cup and are still in a league above you So the moral of the story is you either ave it or you do not, and we (pompey) happen to ave it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wopper Posted 12 January, 2011 Share Posted 12 January, 2011 That tart looks just like my blow up doll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 12 January, 2011 Share Posted 12 January, 2011 Lungs it gets worse and this just epitomises everything about them. In response to what you have cut and pasted above ... I posted a list of 20 odd professionals that had come through the academy (Which was off the top of my head, i am sure there are more; Olly Lancashire Drew Surman Joseph Mills Jake Thompson Chris Baird (Ish…. Took him on young) Simon Gillet Lloyd James Martin Cranie Theo Walcott Gareth Bale Adam Lallana Ox Chamberlin Wayne Bridge Leon Best Aron Davies Oscar Gobern Nathan Dyer Matthew Mills David Mcgoldrick (came to us late but brought through acdamey) Nile Ranger This is their reply (Quite staggering) just for Gemmel post 121- good work and that's pretty impressive I must say) Oh but where has it got your club exactly ?? We produced nothing and won F.A Cup and are still in a league above you So the moral of the story is you either ave it or you do not, and we (pompey) happen to ave it There is something behind what I think they are trying to say. Whilst we can look upon the leagues and see them littered with players that came through our acadamy, we cant exactly say we made the most of our efforts. Many of those players were let go on a free or very cheap. Mainly due to the situation we were in and could not offer them anything better at the time but all the same we didnt get the best out of them all or the best price. Walcott and Bale being the only recent exeptions. Best and Ranger are both playing at Prem level now and we got not allot for them. We got some cash for a few of the others but nothing to right home about. Where the blew few fall down however is that all these players that have got us through the past few years have meant that we were in a pretty crappy position needing help. We were still able to attract Markus along and were in a far better position to move forward. Them down the road with there couple of trophies and a few years higher up the food chain than us find themselves with no assets that anyone wants and no viable way forward. The ballance will be restored and in 10 years time the kids down that way will be suprised to find out that there once was a football team that competed in the top flight just a short time ago. How they will enjoy there cup success then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 12 January, 2011 Share Posted 12 January, 2011 Lungs it gets worse and this just epitomises everything about them. In response to what you have cut and pasted above ... I posted a list of 20 odd professionals that had come through the academy (Which was off the top of my head, i am sure there are more; Olly Lancashire Drew Surman Joseph Mills Jake Thompson Chris Baird (Ish…. Took him on young) Simon Gillet Lloyd James Martin Cranie Theo Walcott Gareth Bale Adam Lallana Ox Chamberlin Wayne Bridge Leon Best Aron Davies Oscar Gobern Nathan Dyer Matthew Mills David Mcgoldrick (came to us late but brought through acdamey) Nile Ranger This is their reply (Quite staggering) just for Gemmel post 121- good work and that's pretty impressive I must say) Oh but where has it got your club exactly ?? We produced nothing and won F.A Cup and are still in a league above you So the moral of the story is you either ave it or you do not, and we (pompey) happen to ave it Depends how far you want to go back but didn`t MLT and the Wallace Brothers all come through the Academy?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 12 January, 2011 Share Posted 12 January, 2011 Depends how far you want to go back but didn`t MLT and the Wallace Brothers all come through the Academy?? Yes indeed, but this argument was for the last ten years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 12 January, 2011 Share Posted 12 January, 2011 Yes indeed, but this argument was for the last ten years I stand corrected! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidthesquid Posted 12 January, 2011 Share Posted 12 January, 2011 Depends how far you want to go back but didn`t MLT and the Wallace Brothers all come through the Academy?? And Alan Shearer of course. And others like Kenna, Oakley, Maddison and a whole raft of players who went on to have good careers in the lower leagues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 12 January, 2011 Share Posted 12 January, 2011 It doesn't matter what time period it is. Fact is, players like MLT are the reason to have an academy, they may be rare, but you have zero chance of signing one, and a small chance of creating one, I know which I prefer. If you analyst it, our academy has produced more and more talent in the last 10 years. In the MLT days especially mid-90s we weren't producing any quality. Oakley came through but the rest were poor with many ending up at Eastleigh or just quitting the game. In recent years a huge proportion play in the professional game which is an outstanding achievement. If nothing else, having a reputation for producing good footballers is reward enough. What's the best produced by us team anyway? I may be wrong on some, and only go back 20 years really. Flowers Dodd Benali Bridge Chamberlain Oakley Lallana Bale Walcott Shearer Le Tissier Perhaps a little attacking? I think that we signed Tim Flowers from Wolves and Dodd from Bath(?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidthesquid Posted 12 January, 2011 Share Posted 12 January, 2011 Going back a bit further there was Steve Moran, Graham Baker, Trevor Hebberd, Ian Baird, Steve Williams, Malcolm Waldron and, of course Mick Channon, to name but a few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 12 January, 2011 Share Posted 12 January, 2011 It's staggering stupidity. I'd be ashamed to still bring up that fa cup the way they won it. Still, that fraud will cost them the club. As for being league above, I can't think of 1 saints fan who'd swap positions right now. So where's it got us? Well, the academy has brought in millions of pounds profit and enabled the club to keep going as long as it did, helped us stay in the top flight long term rather than just being a fraudulent blip and gave us immense pleasure seeing players come through and do well for the club. We still enjoy seeing young players from the academy do well at other clubs and more importantly, it gives a reputation that brings in more and more talent. If you have a reputation for no youth development, like Pompey, you'll struggle to convince kids to sign up. Furthermore, a couple of the very best academy products, Lallana and Chamberlain are still here, will get us promoted and have already offered countless brilliant performances and goals. If either go, it'll be for big money which can be used to HONESTLY bring in new players or reinvest in the academy. We still have a lot of other talent coming through the various age groups too. The main benefit though? That would be talent that actually knows the club, wants to be there and works hard for it. Even those who've left like Walcott and Bale hold the club in high regard. That's far harder with foreign signings on big money who really don't give a toss if they leave your club in administration, as you should know. Bringing players through creates a positive culture at the club where players earn their pay rises, moves etc. They gel as a team better, have more team spirit, and in the extreme case of Barcelona for example, play infinitely better football together. If you get a team playing the right way from a young age and have players used to that you'll reap the rewards. Is that enough reason for Pompey fans? Or are they so desperate to appear stupid that they still can't see the benefit? Indeed and I didnt even bother replying as if you are that blind, nothing on a message board will change your mind. I remeber arguing with corp on here that are 27 years was a huge achievement in itself, he wasn't having any of it. Whilst it is horrible to lose your best players, that's ultimately what allowed us to stay and compete at the highest level. Perhaps more importantly it built an infrastructure that made the club attractive when things went wrong. We ultimately went into adminstration over a 4k cheque and the total loses to all creditors was less than 13 million (Nothing to be proud of) but 10 times better than the blue few and will help us bounce back 10 times quicker and will take them 10 times longer. I think the word is "Karma" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danish Saint Posted 12 January, 2011 Share Posted 12 January, 2011 Imagine if we'd gone into admin, been relegated and still been at the Dell with a relatively poor academy. We'd have been fcked basically. Selling players and being top flight all those years gave the club it's infrastructure, which is a huge benefit now and long term. True, but what I find even more positive, is that even though we have a good infrastructure at the club, Cortese has stated he only wants to improve on these rather than just being content. Compare that to the talk of the new (old) owner at Pompey, who doesn't want to be there in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted 12 January, 2011 Share Posted 12 January, 2011 stop talking sense Gemmell and get back to skate-bothering on the News site! pompey made the decision to abandon youth policy and utilise cheap transfers often from abroad, cheap transfers accompanied by ludicrous wages and lengthy contracts. It meant that massive Prem money didn't go into the club, it just went through it. Not rocket science, but those at the helm weren't building a club, they were lining their own pockets - and little has changed. There was no forward planning down there, and they now find that the future they were ignoring is here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 12 January, 2011 Share Posted 12 January, 2011 It's staggering stupidity. I'd be ashamed to still bring up that fa cup the way they won it. Still, that fraud will cost them the club. As for being league above, I can't think of 1 saints fan who'd swap positions right now. So where's it got us? Well, the academy has brought in millions of pounds profit and enabled the club to keep going as long as it did, helped us stay in the top flight long term rather than just being a fraudulent blip and gave us immense pleasure seeing players come through and do well for the club. We still enjoy seeing young players from the academy do well at other clubs and more importantly, it gives a reputation that brings in more and more talent. If you have a reputation for no youth development, like Pompey, you'll struggle to convince kids to sign up. Furthermore, a couple of the very best academy products, Lallana and Chamberlain are still here, will get us promoted and have already offered countless brilliant performances and goals. If either go, it'll be for big money which can be used to HONESTLY bring in new players or reinvest in the academy. We still have a lot of other talent coming through the various age groups too. The main benefit though? That would be talent that actually knows the club, wants to be there and works hard for it. Even those who've left like Walcott and Bale hold the club in high regard. That's far harder with foreign signings on big money who really don't give a toss if they leave your club in administration, as you should know. Bringing players through creates a positive culture at the club where players earn their pay rises, moves etc. They gel as a team better, have more team spirit, and in the extreme case of Barcelona for example, play infinitely better football together. If you get a team playing the right way from a young age and have players used to that you'll reap the rewards. Is that enough reason for Pompey fans? Or are they so desperate to appear stupid that they still can't see the benefit? To be fair, they don't really have to try that hard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony13579 Posted 12 January, 2011 Share Posted 12 January, 2011 stop talking sense Gemmell and get back to skate-bothering on the News site! pompey made the decision to abandon youth policy and utilise cheap transfers often from abroad, cheap transfers accompanied by ludicrous wages and lengthy contracts. It meant that massive Prem money didn't go into the club, it just went through it. Not rocket science, but those at the helm weren't building a club, they were lining their own pockets - and little has changed. There was no forward planning down there, and they now find that the future they were ignoring is here. And the bigger the contract the more Mr Storrie got paid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 12 January, 2011 Share Posted 12 January, 2011 And the bigger the contract the more Mr Storrie got paid! It's still one of the main things that just makes me laugh / doesn't add up. In most companies, the more you save the company the bigger the bonus. Why on earth would you incentivise someone for spending as much as they can. There's only one business model that I know of, where that works, but that would be illegal, so it can't be that. Puzzling. Oh and if by magic.... http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/Forget-Lampitt--the-target.6687466.jp?CommentPage=2&CommentPageLength=10#comments Come on Chanerai...spend spend spend. Forget the CVA, forget cash flow, forget the creditors and forget the youth team. Bring in 5 top players and they still have a chance at the playoffs. I'm not sure when, but this had always been entertaining, now it's more annoying. To think those thick ****s get to put Hampshire as their address. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 12 January, 2011 Share Posted 12 January, 2011 It's still one of the main things that just makes me laugh / doesn't add up. In most companies, the more you save the company the bigger the bonus. Why on earth would you incentivise someone for spending as much as they can. There's only one business model that I know of, where that works, but that would be illegal, so it can't be that. Puzzling. Oh and if by magic.... http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/Forget-Lampitt--the-target.6687466.jp?CommentPage=2&CommentPageLength=10#comments Come on Chanerai...spend spend spend. Forget the CVA, forget cash flow, forget the creditors and forget the youth team. Bring in 5 top players and they still have a chance at the playoffs. I'm not sure when, but this had always been entertaining, now it's more annoying. To think those thick ****s get to put Hampshire as their address. Blimey, it appears The News is starting to get it. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 12 January, 2011 Share Posted 12 January, 2011 the Pompey situation reminds me of my kids when they were young. You'd go into a toy shop and they wanted the expensive toy and also a couple of other toys as well. I'd say they couldnt have both, but could have the expensive one or the 3 other lesser ones. They would go for the expensive one then after unwrapping it they would then moan cry and whinge, because they wanted the others as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 12 January, 2011 Share Posted 12 January, 2011 Lungs it gets worse and this just epitomises everything about them. In response to what you have cut and pasted above ... I posted a list of 20 odd professionals that had come through the academy (Which was off the top of my head, i am sure there are more; Olly Lancashire Drew Surman Joseph Mills Jake Thompson Chris Baird (Ish…. Took him on young) Simon Gillet Lloyd James Martin Cranie Theo Walcott Gareth Bale Adam Lallana Ox Chamberlin Wayne Bridge Leon Best Aron Davies Oscar Gobern Nathan Dyer Matthew Mills David Mcgoldrick (came to us late but brought through acdamey) Nile Ranger This is their reply (Quite staggering) just for Gemmel post 121- good work and that's pretty impressive I must say) Oh but where has it got your club exactly ?? We produced nothing and won F.A Cup and are still in a league above you So the moral of the story is you either ave it or you do not, and we (pompey) happen to ave it Oh no, please tell me that wasn't a serious reply :-/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 12 January, 2011 Share Posted 12 January, 2011 It meant that massive Prem money didn't go into the club, it just went through it. Bloomin 'eck, I think you've summed it all up in one sentence... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 12 January, 2011 Share Posted 12 January, 2011 Still makes me laugh.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 12 January, 2011 Share Posted 12 January, 2011 Still makes me laugh.... or if you've got a bucket to hand.... http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/p/portsmouth/8656390.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 12 January, 2011 Share Posted 12 January, 2011 or if you've got a bucket to hand.... http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/p/portsmouth/8656390.stm Yes Avram, Portsmouth did do it. By spending £130m that they didn't have and robbing charities in the process. God forbid we attempt to "break" the indomitable Portsmothian spirit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 12 January, 2011 Share Posted 12 January, 2011 Still makes me laugh.... you watch that and then some of the other vids on there and you see what they have experienced. I suspect every fan apart from the top 4 or 5 clubs would swap what they had for all the angst they have had since. They robbed the nation then lived it up before any could be retrieved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz Posted 12 January, 2011 Share Posted 12 January, 2011 We should have a whip round for a Saintsweb plaque just saying R.I.P Even better, the URL to this thread. It'll serve as an all-time reminder of how thick the Skates are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 12 January, 2011 Share Posted 12 January, 2011 Even better, the URL to this thread. It'll serve as an all-time reminder of how thick the Skates are. That's brilliant. I will throw in an extra fiver. Only £40 to go... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 12 January, 2011 Share Posted 12 January, 2011 Yes Avram, Portsmouth did do it. By spending £130m that they didn't have and robbing charities in the process. God forbid we attempt to "break" the indomitable Skatian spirit... Corrected for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 12 January, 2011 Share Posted 12 January, 2011 Corrected for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holepuncture Posted 12 January, 2011 Share Posted 12 January, 2011 That's brilliant. I will throw in an extra fiver. Only £40 to go... I am more than happy to contribute. I doubt the skates would let us put RIP PFC on it, how about TCWTB, or Ali Al Faraj, Marc Jacobs etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 12 January, 2011 Share Posted 12 January, 2011 I am more than happy to contribute. I doubt the skates would let us put RIP PFC on it, how about TCWTB, or Ali Al Faraj, Marc Jacobs etc? We could have a poll once we've collected the money - and I am more than happy to setup a PayPal for it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 12 January, 2011 Share Posted 12 January, 2011 We could have a poll once we've collected the money - and I am more than happy to setup a PayPal for it! I think you are forgetting one thing. In less then 12 months time the paving slabs will be pulled up to make way for a Lidl hypermarket. Save your pennies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 12 January, 2011 Share Posted 12 January, 2011 I am happy to give a fiver. Would be awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 12 January, 2011 Share Posted 12 January, 2011 Definitely have this on the brick. Great idea Gaz: http ://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?14620-Pompey-Takeover-Saga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 12 January, 2011 Share Posted 12 January, 2011 **** we can't have that. 2 lines of text with 14 characters per line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 12 January, 2011 Share Posted 12 January, 2011 How about R.I.P. from TSW forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 12 January, 2011 Share Posted 12 January, 2011 **** we can't have that. 2 lines of text with 14 characters per line. Can't we have shortcode link? I wonder if TSW would object? :-o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anothersaintinsouthsea Posted 12 January, 2011 Share Posted 12 January, 2011 HYDS LTSWF xx Hope You Die Soon Love The Saints Web Forum kisskiss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz Posted 12 January, 2011 Share Posted 12 January, 2011 bit.ly/fF6bdZ Take that, 14 character limit. Plus, its stealth, so if they don't check it, its got a chance of going through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 12 January, 2011 Share Posted 12 January, 2011 bit.ly/ff6bdz take that, 14 character limit. Plus, its stealth, so if they don't check it, its got a chance of going through. that...is..... Superb! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony13579 Posted 12 January, 2011 Share Posted 12 January, 2011 I like the tiny URL I'd also like to see "The Tax Man Commoth HMRC" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidthesquid Posted 12 January, 2011 Share Posted 12 January, 2011 An interesting/borderline intelligent assessment from the Skate News thread, suggesting that Chainrai is in for the long-haul in a bleeding them dry sort of way. We're running at about 10 pages/500 posts a week on average so far, so we could be onto 2500pages and 1,250,000 posts before he decides to sell up. I'm up for it, I'll seriously miss my daily fix of enjoyment when it finally ends.... Steve W1, 12/01/2011 16:52:43 Had a little look at the CVA(sad) this afternoon,and as i guessed nothing unexpected in there. Brief calculations of what BC will get repaid and some. Para Payments we know are £48 million. Football creditors £22.4mil CVA £16.5mil,reduced by approx £3mil next month. Balram Chainrai. £14.2mil Sacha Gaydamac. £2.47 Totals Approx £52mil BC's secured debt has/will increase by paying the Charities and creditors under £2.5k. Secured Creditors will be repaid over the next 5 years, Year1, £3.9mil. years2,3,4,5 at £3.86mil. Total £19.3mil. BC's interest charges for his "loan" will be paid as follows, Year1,£1.1mil, Years 2,3 &4 at £840k, Year5, £828k. Total 4.5mil. So BC will get approx £25 million over the next 5years his Chairmans salary and own the Club lock stock and barrel. So any selling price is straight profit. The CVA also targets an £11.5 mil profit for the 5year CVA period. Like i said BC isn't going anywhere soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 12 January, 2011 Share Posted 12 January, 2011 A quick point, that I am not sure of the answer; andriod was able (Don't ask me how) to convince the court that the secured football players should get a vote on the CVA as this directly effected their contract terms and future earnings (Contract extensions and the like) it was by the courts allowing this, that they got the 75% needed for the CVA. They wouldn't have got it without it. If as we now know (Hughes and Brown) they are not going to allow those contract extensions to take place, then does that make their vote in the CVA null and void. Whilst I am sure that it isnt going back to court on this matter, surely that comes back on andriod? Looks a bit more like cheating to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 12 January, 2011 Share Posted 12 January, 2011 A quick point, that I am not sure of the answer; andriod was able (Don't ask me how) to convince the court that the secured football players should get a vote on the CVA as this directly effected their contract terms and future earnings (Contract extensions and the like) it was by the courts allowing this, that they got the 75% needed for the CVA. They wouldn't have got it without it. If as we now know (Hughes and Brown) they are not going to allow those contract extensions to take place, then does that make their vote in the CVA null and void. Whilst I am sure that it isnt going back to court on this matter, surely that comes back on andriod? Looks a bit more like cheating to me. Excellent point, didn't think of that but you do have to wonder! But... .Portsmouth.... cheating? Nah... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latter day saint Posted 12 January, 2011 Share Posted 12 January, 2011 bit.ly/fF6bdZ Take that, 14 character limit. Plus, its stealth, so if they don't check it, its got a chance of going through. Genius! glad to see this has become a popular idea. would it be best to be sorted by someone with a PO postcode just to avoid suspicion ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 12 January, 2011 Share Posted 12 January, 2011 noticed that but just thought they all look like that down there. this caught my eye as well http://www.portsmouthfc.co.uk/walloffame/ anyone got spare £50 to immortalize a message to our fishy neighbours "Your chance to own a piece of Nottarf Krap ... From as little as £50" £50 would be a bad investment at the best of times. But it'll be flushing it down the toilet once the bulldozers come in. And a big LOL at SC and the P*******th News trying to convince BC to loosen the pursestrings to bolster their "paper thin" squad. Listen chaps, he's already funding huge wages in a gamble to go up, and you'll only be able to convince BC to dump even more money in if you can guarantee promotion, so that he can recoup it (with considerable interest) later. And by guarantee, that probably means signing a contract in blood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 12 January, 2011 Share Posted 12 January, 2011 bit.ly/fF6bdZ Take that, 14 character limit. Plus, its stealth, so if they don't check it, its got a chance of going through. How about this one? Or is it too obvious? http://tinyurl.com/cheating-lying-bastards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted 13 January, 2011 Share Posted 13 January, 2011 so £16K a week Halford is back then - that's an extra £50K a week with Haim's wages - every week! - to put in context, that's the income from 4,000 x £25 of each fortnightly home attendance, or the amount we paid to buy Chaplow. I know all clubs will push the rules as far as possible and I would want Saints to do that if it were within the spirit of the game BUT I can't remember another club putting in a false appeal against their own admission of guilt, losing it, sending the player back to his own club to serve the extra game where he wasn't wanted, then miraculously re-signing him a week later. If you intend to do that my tip would be don't admit in the press that he deserved the red card prior to appeal - makes you look like a club trying to cheat the system to gain an advantage. And for stattos everywhere, I reckon their home gate income is covering no more than six wages - with football creditors having first shout on the bulk of tv income I'm not sure where the rest of them are getting paid from.....so in cashflow terms it's quite ironic, forget recent history, this is the season when they desperately need a cup run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevvy Posted 13 January, 2011 Share Posted 13 January, 2011 so £16K a week Halford is back then - that's an extra £50K a week with Haim's wages - every week! - to put in context, that's the income from 4,000 x £25 of each fortnightly home attendance, or the amount we paid to buy Chaplow. I know all clubs will push the rules as far as possible and I would want Saints to do that if it were within the spirit of the game BUT I can't remember another club putting in a false appeal against their own admission of guilt, losing it, sending the player back to his own club to serve the extra game where he wasn't wanted, then miraculously re-signing him a week later. If you intend to do that my tip would be don't admit in the press that he deserved the red card prior to appeal - makes you look like a club trying to cheat the system to gain an advantage. And for stattos everywhere, I reckon their home gate income is covering no more than six wages - with football creditors having first shout on the bulk of tv income I'm not sure where the rest of them are getting paid from.....so in cashflow terms it's quite ironic, forget recent history, this is the season when they desperately need a cup run. Shame they are out then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Lindford Posted 13 January, 2011 Share Posted 13 January, 2011 Taken from a Pompey message board. Makes interesting reading. 12 Jan 2011 17:08:06 Portsmouth defender Ricardo Rocha will sign for QPR before the end of January - personal terms being discussed. 12 Jan 2011 12:12:40 Richard Hughes is going back to Bournemouth, best mates with Eddie Howe and has been told he's got no chance of playing for Pompey again. Either a free transfer or nominal fee. Expect any money Pompey recieve to be sucked straight into funding the first CVA payment, which as it stands, Pompey don't have enough for. For this reason, expect Brown (linked with Wolves) and at least one more to leave Fratton Park. It won't be Lawrence - footballing rules dictate a player cannot move twice in one transfer window, and he signed the permanent deal on the opening day of this window, making him ineligable to move again this month. It's looking likely to be Nugent, with a host of clubs looking to get his signature. Cotterill's handed chief exec David Lampitt a list with three permanent players he desperately wants, and two loans, one thought to be an extention to Halford's loan. Lampitt has apparently told Cotts he's not got a hope in hell with two of the three permanents, and is unsure whether or not they can get hold of the second loan signing. {ed's note - didn't Lawrence move on loan first? If so his arrival date could be set on that, rather than the date he signed permanently. Though it depends on the loan contract, if a loan with a view to perm then it will be the original loan date that matter. Mind if he signed on a perm only when the window opens then it is unlikely to be a loan with a view to perm, those on that kind of contract can complete a perm move at any time, even outside the windows.} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickn Posted 13 January, 2011 Share Posted 13 January, 2011 Taken from a Pompey message board. Makes interesting reading. 12 Jan 2011 17:08:06 Portsmouth defender Ricardo Rocha will sign for QPR before the end of January - personal terms being discussed. 12 Jan 2011 12:12:40 Richard Hughes is going back to Bournemouth, best mates with Eddie Howe and has been told he's got no chance of playing for Pompey again. Either a free transfer or nominal fee. Expect any money Pompey recieve to be sucked straight into funding the first CVA payment, which as it stands, Pompey don't have enough for. For this reason, expect Brown (linked with Wolves) and at least one more to leave Fratton Park. It won't be Lawrence - footballing rules dictate a player cannot move twice in one transfer window, and he signed the permanent deal on the opening day of this window, making him ineligable to move again this month. It's looking likely to be Nugent, with a host of clubs looking to get his signature. Cotterill's handed chief exec David Lampitt a list with three permanent players he desperately wants, and two loans, one thought to be an extention to Halford's loan. Lampitt has apparently told Cotts he's not got a hope in hell with two of the three permanents, and is unsure whether or not they can get hold of the second loan signing. {ed's note - didn't Lawrence move on loan first? If so his arrival date could be set on that, rather than the date he signed permanently. Though it depends on the loan contract, if a loan with a view to perm then it will be the original loan date that matter. Mind if he signed on a perm only when the window opens then it is unlikely to be a loan with a view to perm, those on that kind of contract can complete a perm move at any time, even outside the windows.} If this turns out to be right surely Cotterill will be on his way soon as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 13 January, 2011 Share Posted 13 January, 2011 seems the chickens are coming home to roost. A few people said that February would be interesting for Pompey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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