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I echo Rallyboys seasons greetings to Mack and Merv and of course to the esteemed posters who have provided such insight along this journey.

However my special thanks and best wishes are reserved for one man, a man who stands linke a giant amoungst his fellow businessmen, a man whose foresight knows no bounds, whose vision, drive and business acumen leave others bewildered and belittled.

 

Ladies and Gentlemen, please charge your glasses and toast a very Merry Christmas (Possibly his last one of freedom) to the one and only

 

Agent Storrie.

 

 

Peter, please take a bow.

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WTF is going on? Look Mero & MR are only close to qualifying as human beings, but FFS this is the season of peace and goodwill to all MEN.

 

So WTF are you lot up to wishing seasonal greetings to a bunch of Fish?

 

They are SKATES FFS.

 

Enough already.

 

 

No - be nice to the fishy few at this season of goodwill.

 

Mero is a poor Brummy who got lost once when he came south. He turned left instead of right, got in with a rough crowd and cannot escape. I am sure he is really a nice lad.

 

Feel sorry for mac. He used to write good grammatical English. His spelling was excellent. Recently however its all gone haywire.It must be the strain of administration that is causing him to regress.

 

Merry Christmas. I wonder where Pompey will be next Christmas.

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Well for what its worth...some my wife's family are skates. Always make me welcome whenever I visit, I am not lippy though. I always remove every trace of Saints from my car. They live near the rats nest called Fratton.

 

None of them can bring themselves to say the name of my team Southampton....they hate us.

 

However, they are fans like us who have a team that has been ****ed over by con men etc. I keep hoping the ****s get relegated or fail to get out of admin etc but it doesn't happen....maybe next year.

 

Seasons greetings :)

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I echo Rallyboys seasons greetings to Mack and Merv and of course to the esteemed posters who have provided such insight along this journey.

However my special thanks and best wishes are reserved for one man, a man who stands linke a giant amoungst his fellow businessmen, a man whose foresight knows no bounds, whose vision, drive and business acumen leave others bewildered and belittled.

 

Ladies and Gentlemen, please charge your glasses and toast a very Merry Christmas (Possibly his last one of freedom) to the one and only

 

Agent Storrie.

 

 

Peter, please take a bow.

 

Ah Yes the erstwhile Storrieteller- The man who makes Rupert and Mikey look like Bill Gates ! I miss his pearls of wisdom and foresight.

After all his quote about taking Pompey to a level that would never beleive is coming true is it not :lol:

 

Merry Xmas to all Saints and special Xmas condolences to Mack and Mero - Without their honorable presence we would have nobody nice to play with!:D

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I have received a letter at work today concerning a customer of ours who have entered creditors' voluntary liquidation.

 

It is signed by the joint liquidator of this company .... Andrew Andronikou!! Is his autograph worth anything?? Could I flog it on ebay??

 

It makes you wonder how many other jobs he has on the go at any one time. Is moonlighting allowed when you are an administrator??

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Its a cruel, harsh and unforgiving world down in skate lala land. The Christmas spirit is nail varnish remover, and the traditional skate lunch is a trip over to the great companion for a nice punch up

 

http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/newshome/Car-and-caravan-destroyed-in.6670760.jp

 

They are starting to turn on each other now...

 

But there is still some wonga kicking around portsea flea pit this winter season. Dave will be down Walkabout as per usual enjoying his cheap double vodka redbuls, not sure what else he spends his £50k per week on, im sure he will have sent Storrie and 'Arry a nice hamper once again to show his tremendous gratitude for the bucket of gravy they signed him on to.

 

£50k a week, on one condition, all hush about the blood money from daddy, we take the 'dont ask, dont tell' methodology of spinning our criminal launderette.

 

http://www.portsmouth-mad.co.uk/news/tmnw/nugent_guarantees_stay_611612/index.shtml

 

So, back into administration by February then, have you started defaulting on your tax yet, or did you never get round to paying after this years collection of court appearences?

 

Funny old skates, living the dream... ho ho corp ho...

 

pompeys going down with no money in the bank.

 

Merry Christmas x

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Dark Munster

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Pure poetry.

 

On a separate note, the million they were banking on for Muntari, is going to court in March..... The only problem is that it is an Italian court.

If you think that aa played the UK legal system wait until you see the Italians in action.

 

http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/Date-is-set-for-Muntari.6669518.jp

 

Cheats FC: 'We just have to keep fighting for what is rightfully ours.'

 

The cheating, lying bastards continue to have absolutely no shame, don't they?

 

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, fellow Saints fans.

 

I suspect the opposite of the latter will be the case for the few.

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Liquidating the old company and setting up a new one was part of the deal with HMRC - so that the old company could be thoroughly investigated. End of the company doesnt mean end of the club.

 

Not that I think it will but, if that investigation finds a few erm... Errors in the previous management's ways... It could (and probably should) result in points penalty's which I bet the blue few are not planning to absorb in there F U approach to screwing there way back up the league's.

 

So there is a chance that it could still mean an end to the club. Just may drag out the death even further.

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I don't often bother to look at the Tables for leagues other than ours, so I am a bit confused.

 

I thought The few were walking the NPC this season with this hugely expensive squad of theirs.

 

Or was I holding the newspaper upside-down?

 

Yes, but don't forget, their squad is "paper thin."

 

Or so the Cheats keep telling us.

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poor little plucky Pompey with their sell out support are doing very well - another two points and they might even be able to stay up when the potential ten point penalty for a 2nd admin is enforced (prior to the inevitable financial irregularities penalties.)

It's only a problem if the first hit is a 15 or 17 pointer for a third admin....

 

And if they can just get some of the big earners back off loan to strengthen the squad it should see them out of money completely by the January wages day, and ploughing through the entire four years of parachute money by the summer.

Any potential buyers on the scene looking to cash in on this little goldmine of an opportunity?

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When is ben hiam or what ever his name is due back? They could be paying much of his wages already so when he comes back it might not be much more of an extra cost, but if there is talk of another admin then any extra cost won't be good news for them.

 

Are there any transfer rumours for the blue few to get there hopes up with? Actually I'm not sure which way they would get there hopes up. Are they hoping to strengthen or off load? Do they still think now they are out of admin they can afford a promotion charge or do they think they should be cutting there cloth to a more tighter fit?

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Liam Lawrence is unavailable until 1st January because his emergency loan expires before the next game I believe

 

Just seen that cotterill is talking to brown to ask him to take a pay cut too. If he plays 1 more game under the current contract he should go back to 34k a week!

 

Richard Hughes is in the same boat if he plays instead of brown.

 

They could be back in the same position harping on about having no players within a week or so. Only this time they will be paying the current wages and not afford any extra. That will rule out paying the prem wages to current players and it will also rule out taking extra wages on board for more loan players.

 

Things could start to unravel for them in the new year. :)

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that sounds like a business that doesn't have two pennies to rub together.

Pity it's taken them more than a year to realise.

 

Maybe one or two more will finally realise that what goes on during games is of little relevance and their real interest should be about the rather disturbing balance sheet.

Perhaps 2011 will be the year when they make genuine efforts to address debt - they could make a good start by slashing their wagebill by 75%.

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that sounds like a business that doesn't have two pennies to rub together.

Pity it's taken them more than a year to realise.

 

Maybe one or two more will finally realise that what goes on during games is of little relevance and their real interest should be about the rather disturbing balance sheet.

Perhaps 2011 will be the year when they make genuine efforts to address debt - they could make a good start by slashing their wagebill by 75%.

 

If that happens then it would appear like they are acting like a club that has been in admin!

 

#itwillneverhappen

 

Perhaps had they done it from the off they would have earned a little more respect from a few more people. As it is more and more people wouldn't be too bothered if they folded completely.

 

It's there own fault but no doubt they will blame the league and everyone else for there misfortune!

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Looks like they can't even pay 50k to use a promising youngster they got from Millwall 3 years ago because of a contract clause!

 

http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/Cotterill-in-the-dark-over.6672058.jp

 

 

'I don't want to lie to you. If all of a sudden he says he wants to waive that clause so he can play then things change.

 

'I'm not trying to be clever – if he turns up on the team sheet at Leeds, that is a genuine one.

 

'It's a big livelihood decision. I cannot make him do anything like that. He has got to want to do it, really.

 

'That's not me lobbing it back at him, either.

 

Um... yes it is you skate tit.

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Another classic quote

 

"If you had 50 million or so spare and a 5 year plan you could make a tidy profit out of Pompey. Start by getting some competant people running the ticket sales (it can't be that difficult ffs), then sort out the food and drink vendors (stop the low grade rubbish on sale, serve quality food and drink ffs - it won't cost much more) and then start selling quality club merchandise. FP could be full every week if the product was sold and promoted properly.

 

The nucleus of a decent promotion winning team is there already, just need a few more quality players and we'll be back in the Premier League where we could earn big bucks that would fund a new ground which would easily pay it's way"

 

Problem is they can't even afford 50k - :lol:

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Im going to go out on a limb and predict that they will get tonked today.

 

Lets hope that limb your out on isn't at the top of the tree A moooosh!

Hope all you stripy feckrs had a very merry Christmas, stuffed a nd drunk your selfs silly, I wish you all a Happy and Safe new year, Oh and may your next sh*t be a Hedgehog!

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Lets hope that limb your out on isn't at the top of the tree A moooosh!

Hope all you stripy feckrs had a very merry Christmas, stuffed a nd drunk your selfs silly, I wish you all a Happy and Safe new year, Oh and may your next sh*t be a Hedgehog!

 

I hate to say it, but you just gotta love this guy...!!! Same to you mack, same to you.

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This article has really p*ssed me off this morning. I have highlighted the bits which irritated me the most:

 

It's official – Pompey have the smallest squad in the Football League.

That is the damning statistic on the eve of the January transfer window.

Steve Cotterill needs no convincing his team desperately needs strengthening next month.

 

But the wait continues for Blues chairman Balram Chainrai to reveal his spending plans.

 

In the meantime, Pom-pey have had to make do with a squad which is smaller than 91 of the clubs in the top four divisions.

 

Remarkably, despite that handicap, they currently sit 13th in the Championship, comfortably clear of releg-ation danger.

 

At present, there are only 20 players at Fratton Park.

 

That figure includes loanees Carl Dickinson, Liam Lawrence, Greg Halford and Ibrahima Sonko.

 

On that basis, league minnows Accrington Stanley, Morecombe, Burton Albion, Stevenage and Dagenham & Redbridge are among the clubs who boast considerably bigger squads.

 

Locally, Bournemouth (27 players), Southampton (28 players), Brighton (29 players) and Aldershot (25 players) also exceed the Blues' numbers.

 

As for their Championship peers, Ipswich boast 36 players – the largest in the division – Derby have 34, Swansea number 34, Coventry have 33 and league leaders QPR possess 29.

 

Bristol City – the Championship club with second smallest squad size – operate with 23 players.

 

Meanwhile, the only club which comes close to Pompey in the paper-thin stakes are Cheltenham – ironically, Cotterill's ex-stomping ground.

 

They have 22 players – a factor which has forced them to recruit the likes of Pompey's Marlon Pack on loan.

 

They are also a League Two outfit with average attendances of 3,027 this season.

 

Meanwhile, 42 places above, a club which last year served in the Premier League and reached the FA Cup final possesses two fewer players.

 

Granted, Pompey's squad consists of plenty of Premier League experience in the form of Hermann Hreidarsson, Kanu, Hayden Mullins, John Utaka, Dave Kitson and Aaron Mokoena.

 

It is a line of reasoning trotted out by many a Championship manager when assessing their strengths during forthcoming matches.

 

But they also have 16 fewer players than Ipswich and 14 less than Derby.

 

If having just 20 players at his disposal wasn't frustrating enough for Cotterill, he can't even use some of them.

 

Tom Kilbey has returned from a long-term knee injury to train with the first team.

 

But he is currently not considered for duty due to a contract which stipulates Millwall receive £50,000 when he makes an appearance.

 

There is also the little matter of Michael Brown and Richard Hughes' on-going contract situations.

 

Neither will play for the Blues again unless a compromise can be agreed to avoid the club granting a 12-month extension at Premier League wages.

 

Let's also not forget Danny Webber is not yet fully fit as he seeks to return from a horror knee ligament injury sustained against Spurs in March.

 

In addition, Nadir Ciftci, despite his glimpses of promise, is still aged just 18 and still has so much to learn.

 

Then there is Darryl Flahavan, Jamie Ashdown's number two, and a player currently on a month-to-month contract.

So that's it, 20 players.

 

Of course, that is not taking into account Billy Goddard, Ellis Martin, Peter Gregory and Perry Ryan, who featured on the tour to America and Canada in the summer.

 

They are all currently featuring as over-age players in the youth set-up and Cotterill does not consider them ready for the first team yet. (!!!!!!!)

 

Meanwhile, Tal Ben-Haim, Marlon Pack and Matt Ritchie are all away from Fratton Park on loan.

 

Still, in two days' time the transfer window will reopen, giving Football League clubs the chance to strengthen.

For Cotterill, it cannot come soon enough.

 

Yet, there remain nagging doubts the light will not turn to green to strengthen the smallest squad in the entire Football League.

 

Mr Chainrai, it is over to you.

 

Absolute disgrace which is unbelieveable. How they can get away with this I do not know. The fact they can pretend they have just 20 players whilst sending out players on loan and refusing to play youth players is totally ridiculous. THIS is the huge difference between us and them. THIS is the reason why clubs like us and many others deserve sympathy when admin comes and why they deserve nothing but contempt and hate from every club in the league. Not paying players was bad, not paying charities was worse but now showing that they haven't learnt a thing is the worst bit of all. Admin was a last resort for us, it was a safety net for them. Horrible scummy club who I despise. I will dance on their grave if their death ever comes. No club has ever EVER been more deserving than to be bled to death. There are no words to descirbe quite just how loathsome and vile that steaming heap of dung is, though it is summed up nicely in that article. If anyone ever questions why Portsmouth is hated, then that article is a good way to go as evidence.

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This article has really p*ssed me off this morning. I have highlighted the bits which irritated me the most:

 

 

 

Absolute disgrace which is unbelieveable. How they can get away with this I do not know. The fact they can pretend they have just 20 players whilst sending out players on loan and refusing to play youth players is totally ridiculous. THIS is the huge difference between us and them. THIS is the reason why clubs like us and many others deserve sympathy when admin comes and why they deserve nothing but contempt and hate from every club in the league. Not paying players was bad, not paying charities was worse but now showing that they haven't learnt a thing is the worst bit of all. Admin was a last resort for us, it was a safety net for them. Horrible scummy club who I despise. I will dance on their grave if their death ever comes. No club has ever EVER been more deserving than to be bled to death. There are no words to descirbe quite just how loathsome and vile that steaming heap of dung is, though it is summed up nicely in that article. If anyone ever questions why Portsmouth is hated, then that article is a good way to go as evidence.

 

 

I agree with you completely mate, it is an absolute scandal and really winds me up that no one else in the media seems to highlight the fact that despite their financial cheating and fraud the skates still have one of the best starting XIs in the division, pleading for sympathy with their "small squad" and yet choose to ignore other players which are already available to them.

 

they have been getting away with it for too long now, I have just accepted that they aren't going to suffer at all, play offs are still in their grasp this season. In my opinion they should have been forced to play their youth team with no further transfers until their debt to the charities and to the state (taxes) had been paid in full.

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This article has really p*ssed me off this morning. I have highlighted the bits which irritated me the most:

 

 

 

Absolute disgrace which is unbelieveable. How they can get away with this I do not know. The fact they can pretend they have just 20 players whilst sending out players on loan and refusing to play youth players is totally ridiculous. THIS is the huge difference between us and them. THIS is the reason why clubs like us and many others deserve sympathy when admin comes and why they deserve nothing but contempt and hate from every club in the league. Not paying players was bad, not paying charities was worse but now showing that they haven't learnt a thing is the worst bit of all. Admin was a last resort for us, it was a safety net for them. Horrible scummy club who I despise. I will dance on their grave if their death ever comes. No club has ever EVER been more deserving than to be bled to death. There are no words to descirbe quite just how loathsome and vile that steaming heap of dung is, though it is summed up nicely in that article. If anyone ever questions why Portsmouth is hated, then that article is a good way to go as evidence.

 

Come on! spit it out, tell how you really feel!

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This article has really p*ssed me off this morning. I have highlighted the bits which irritated me the most:

 

It's official – Pompey have the smallest squad in the Football League.

That is the damning statistic on the eve of the January transfer window.

Steve Cotterill needs no convincing his team desperately needs strengthening next month.

 

But the wait continues for Blues chairman Balram Chainrai to reveal his spending plans.

 

In the meantime, Pom-pey have had to make do with a squad which is smaller than 91 of the clubs in the top four divisions.

 

Remarkably, despite that handicap, they currently sit 13th in the Championship, comfortably clear of releg-ation danger.

 

At present, there are only 20 players at Fratton Park.

 

That figure includes loanees Carl Dickinson, Liam Lawrence, Greg Halford and Ibrahima Sonko.

 

On that basis, league minnows Accrington Stanley, Morecombe, Burton Albion, Stevenage and Dagenham & Redbridge are among the clubs who boast considerably bigger squads.

 

Locally, Bournemouth (27 players), Southampton (28 players), Brighton (29 players) and Aldershot (25 players) also exceed the Blues' numbers.

 

As for their Championship peers, Ipswich boast 36 players – the largest in the division – Derby have 34, Swansea number 34, Coventry have 33 and league leaders QPR possess 29.

 

Bristol City – the Championship club with second smallest squad size – operate with 23 players.

 

Meanwhile, the only club which comes close to Pompey in the paper-thin stakes are Cheltenham – ironically, Cotterill's ex-stomping ground.

 

They have 22 players – a factor which has forced them to recruit the likes of Pompey's Marlon Pack on loan.

 

They are also a League Two outfit with average attendances of 3,027 this season.

 

Meanwhile, 42 places above, a club which last year served in the Premier League and reached the FA Cup final possesses two fewer players.

 

Granted, Pompey's squad consists of plenty of Premier League experience in the form of Hermann Hreidarsson, Kanu, Hayden Mullins, John Utaka, Dave Kitson and Aaron Mokoena.

 

It is a line of reasoning trotted out by many a Championship manager when assessing their strengths during forthcoming matches.

 

But they also have 16 fewer players than Ipswich and 14 less than Derby.

 

If having just 20 players at his disposal wasn't frustrating enough for Cotterill, he can't even use some of them.

 

Tom Kilbey has returned from a long-term knee injury to train with the first team.

 

But he is currently not considered for duty due to a contract which stipulates Millwall receive £50,000 when he makes an appearance.

 

There is also the little matter of Michael Brown and Richard Hughes' on-going contract situations.

 

Neither will play for the Blues again unless a compromise can be agreed to avoid the club granting a 12-month extension at Premier League wages.

 

Let's also not forget Danny Webber is not yet fully fit as he seeks to return from a horror knee ligament injury sustained against Spurs in March.

 

In addition, Nadir Ciftci, despite his glimpses of promise, is still aged just 18 and still has so much to learn.

 

Then there is Darryl Flahavan, Jamie Ashdown's number two, and a player currently on a month-to-month contract.

So that's it, 20 players.

 

Of course, that is not taking into account Billy Goddard, Ellis Martin, Peter Gregory and Perry Ryan, who featured on the tour to America and Canada in the summer.

 

They are all currently featuring as over-age players in the youth set-up and Cotterill does not consider them ready for the first team yet. (!!!!!!!)

 

Meanwhile, Tal Ben-Haim, Marlon Pack and Matt Ritchie are all away from Fratton Park on loan.

 

Still, in two days' time the transfer window will reopen, giving Football League clubs the chance to strengthen.

For Cotterill, it cannot come soon enough.

 

Yet, there remain nagging doubts the light will not turn to green to strengthen the smallest squad in the entire Football League.

 

Mr Chainrai, it is over to you.

 

Absolute disgrace which is unbelieveable. How they can get away with this I do not know. The fact they can pretend they have just 20 players whilst sending out players on loan and refusing to play youth players is totally ridiculous. THIS is the huge difference between us and them. THIS is the reason why clubs like us and many others deserve sympathy when admin comes and why they deserve nothing but contempt and hate from every club in the league. Not paying players was bad, not paying charities was worse but now showing that they haven't learnt a thing is the worst bit of all. Admin was a last resort for us, it was a safety net for them. Horrible scummy club who I despise. I will dance on their grave if their death ever comes. No club has ever EVER been more deserving than to be bled to death. There are no words to descirbe quite just how loathsome and vile that steaming heap of dung is, though it is summed up nicely in that article. If anyone ever questions why Portsmouth is hated, then that article is a good way to go as evidence.

 

Funny of the skate journo to catagorise the likes of Daggers, Morecombe, Burton etc as 'league minnows'... the skates are on par with them in terms of size and infrastructure, in fact, they can only aspire to have the facilities that Burton Albion have established.

 

The article fails to consider the current crop of cash cows against the kids they have sent on loan down the leagues, typical moronic skate stuff. Watching Rasiak and John go out on loan was difficult for us, but we understood and got behind McGoldrick.

 

The whole concept of wage sustainability once again appears totally lost to the few, all them days of being dragged through the high court for not paying state taxes never registered.

 

Do they really think there **** poor attendences can warrant more players, let alone keep Kitson and Kanus bank balance topped up?

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it was quoted the other week that they have the 4th biggest wagebill in the division which is insane.

 

But when you do the figures against the squad size it's even madder - that must make pompey the highest paid team in the championship - and that demands results and automatic promotion - as it does at Saints.

 

As an example, Brown is looking to extend his £25K a week contract.

He's just a squad player and not a popular one I believe - if a lower end Prem team with the massive income wanted him for cover they would be looking to pay £8-10K a week.

If a solvent championship team wanted him as cover they would be looking to pay £3-5K - not £25K!

 

'but we are stuck with them...'Yeah right, give them away, loan them out for nowt, or accept that you blatantly bought the cup by paying twice the going rate for players with money intended for hospitals and schools.

 

'but everyone buys trophies, Man Utd are in debt....' Yeah, but you are meant to pay some back, they do something a bit revolutionary called 'servicing the debt', not ignoring it.

 

Sorry to sound like a broken record a year on - but they have still made no effort to address debt, yet now their hard luck sob story is wearing thin and most fans of other clubs have sussed them out.

 

They have clearly chosen to have a thin squad by paying over the odds and they can't blame the previous regimes.

The current owner has clearly been 'in control' for more than a year and he sanctioned the massive wages of Kitson, Lawrence, Halford, Kanu and one or two others - he is now looking to complete a permanent deal for Lawrence on crazy money that he can't get anywhere else.

When you have the income it's unwise, when you don't it's as Wenger, Platini and a thousand people on here have said, cheating.

 

Other than the odd mad contract agreed by Storrie and Redknapp to buy a trophy, most of their problems were in fact created by the current owners, either by ignoring debts and contract issues or by overspending in the traditions of the pompey way.

Buy now, pay nothing wherever possible.

 

Pay the charities, clear the debt, clean the name of the club if possible and worry about results after that.

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