pallidcreatures Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 If the fat lady sings, what song will she sing? I'll kick us off with Dylan's "It's all over, baby blue"... its got some great lyrics... "Look out the saints are comin' through And it's all over now, Baby Blue." Any other ideas in case she's taking requests? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 Toaster is a SWF member just having a laugh at their expense lol I did realise but thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry the Badger Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 Add the fact that there are a raft of clubs who have been severely hurt by administration and the CVA Exactly, have they never heard of Leeds Utd. Now THAT was complicated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertySFC Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 (edited) Getting difficult to seperate the real comments from ours on the News threads....love the 'Lets not pay taxes in protest' comment...like the pikey tw*ts pay any! SWF posters so far if i recall have been TCWTB TCWTB2 , toaster, PUPMarian , USkateC , US baggage handler , OBE 4 AA , plus many more and one og my favourites was Nail in the coughing Edited 4 August, 2010 by qwertySFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under Weststand Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 LMFAO at some of the deluded comments on the News feed, the best one is lets not pay our taxes in protest . Seems like the poopey lawyers are doing a better job at destroying the CVA than HMRC's lawyers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony13579 Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 (edited) The news mark: Sorry we've had no news from the court for a while - as i said earlier, court officials made it clear today that, unlike yesterday, reporters caught using phones in court to text or tweet would be told to leave. Chris has just txtd to say he's dashed out of court during a break, so he'll be sending more soon. Mark: Agree with The Joker. It's very frustrating not to be able to get as many updates as we'd like. Courts aren't really geared up to today's technology and unfortunately, if they say we can't do something, then we disobey at our peril. No point in Chris being ejected - he wouldn't be able to file anything then. In some big criminal cases now, and ante-room with an audi link is set up from where reporters can file at will during proceedings - but no such facility at today's hearing. Edited 4 August, 2010 by tony13579 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 I did one under the name Utaka's Bank Account. Not seen it yet though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 Lol noticed Corp Ho posting on the news feed, so thats where he has gone. Wonder if he told them about Riquelme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawillwill Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 Ok, time to sound stupid, but where is everyone getting these updates from and leavig comments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 SWF posters so far if i recall have been TCWTB TCWTB2 , toaster, PUPMarian , USkateC , US baggage handler , OBE 4 AA , plus many more and one og my favourites was Nail in the coughing TMWTD but I didn't get many accepted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 Ok, time to sound stupid, but where is everyone getting these updates from and leavig comments? http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/custompages/custompage.aspx?pageid=82690 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 Lol noticed Corp Ho posting on the news feed, so thats where he has gone. Wonder if he told them about Riquelme it won't be Ho as he/it only posts when they are doing well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/custompages/custompage.aspx?pageid=82690 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertySFC Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 Ok, time to sound stupid, but where is everyone getting these updates from and leavig comments? http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/custompages/custompage.aspx?pageid=82690 Its the live feed SWF members have all day hijacked this with so many humours comments , I am surprised what dumb plank is monitoring the posts LMAO all day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under Weststand Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 Ok, time to sound stupid, but where is everyone getting these updates from and leavig comments?http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/custompages/custompage.aspx?pageid=82690 Try this HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 Mark: Sorry we've had no news from the court for a while - as I said earlier, court officials made it clear today that, unlike yesterday, reporters caught using phones in court to text or tweet would be told to leave. Chris has just txtd to say he's dashed out of court during a break, so he'll be sending more soon. So why does he txt to say he has come out of court and will send more when he could just send the info in the first txt !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joesaint Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 I liked the comment 'think I will ask to be paid image rights instead of salary' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under Weststand Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 Comment From Pastyman72 Pastyman72 : ] @ Toaster - Image rights are not just about merchandising. It's also about the value of certain individuals when it comes to raising the clubs profile and securing additional sponsorship. Saying it's about selling X number of shirts is simplifying things a little. So that accounts for about £10 then what about the rest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 Havent the blue lawyers just confirmed that it was indeed an advance of their parachute payments in thehigh court? Unknown, depends is the transcript is word for word or just an quick interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW5 SAINT Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 Pretty sure the monies forwarded earlier were not actual parachute payments, but an advance on TV money I should have thought these were "parachute payments" until it was confirmed you were actually going to stay up! There is no way 11mil would be offer in the Championship as TV money!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 SWF posters so far if i recall have been TCWTB TCWTB2 , toaster, PUPMarian , USkateC , US baggage handler , OBE 4 AA , plus many more and one og my favourites was Nail in the coughing Lyrical Dancer No more cruciate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 SWF posters so far if i recall have been TCWTB TCWTB2 , toaster, PUPMarian , USkateC , US baggage handler , OBE 4 AA , plus many more and one og my favourites was Nail in the coughing BlueJay (trying to be a bit more subtle lol) is me. My last comment hasnt appeared yet and its been a while so I doubt it will get on now. Had a coded message all in capitols. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony13579 Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 The news mark: Mr sheldon painted a domesday scenario for the judge if he fails to back the club in his verdict. He said if the revenue won the club 'in all likelihood would go into liquidation'. He said it would prevent mr chainrai becoming the new owner. 'there is no other purchaser. The only other way in which this club can move forward is through this proposed sale. 'of course, there may be problems ahead, i do not doubt that.' mr sheldon said hmrc wanted pompey to be placed in liquidation and that the taxman claimed if this happened 'the demise of the club was not inevitable'. But mr sheldon told the judge this was exactly what would happen. He added: 'if the club is not sold or very nearly sold by the start of the season it will clearly be relegated out of the football league. 'this will happen because the administrators cannot give the assurances needed that the season's fixtures can be completed. 'it will then go out of the football league and into some distant league, but the reality is that it will probably go into liquidation because the administrators will not be able to fund the continued business.' he continued: 'the evidence for this is quite clear. Mr andronikou is quite clear about what the consequences would be if the cva fails.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under Weststand Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 Mark: Mr Sheldon painted a Domesday scenario for the judge if he fails to back the club in his verdict. He said if the Revenue won the club 'in all likelihood would go into liquidation'. He said it would prevent Mr Chainrai becoming the new owner. 'There is no other purchaser. The only other way in which this club can move forward is through this proposed sale. 'Of course, there may be problems ahead, I do not doubt that.' Mr Sheldon said HMRC wanted Pompey to be placed in liquidation and that the taxman claimed if this happened 'the demise of the club was not inevitable'. But Mr Sheldon told the judge this was exactly what would happen. He added: 'If the club is not sold or very nearly sold by the start of the season it will clearly be relegated out of the football league. 'This will happen because the administrators cannot give the assurances needed that the season's fixtures can be completed. 'It will then go out of the Football League and into some distant league, but the reality is that it will probably go into liquidation because the administrators will not be able to fund the continued business.' He continued: 'The evidence for this is quite clear. Mr Andronikou is quite clear about what the consequences would be if the CVA fails.' Wednesday August 4, 2010 16:31 Mark just in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 (edited) Getting desperate...? Painting doomsday scenario's isn't the best legal argument I would think to impress a high court judge. Mr Sheldon painted a Domesday scenario for the judge if he fails to back the club in his verdict. He said if the Revenue won the club 'in all likelihood would go into liquidation'. He said it would prevent Mr Chainrai becoming the new owner. 'There is no other purchaser. The only other way in which this club can move forward is through this proposed sale. 'Of course, there may be problems ahead, I do not doubt that.' Mr Sheldon said HMRC wanted Pompey to be placed in liquidation and that the taxman claimed if this happened 'the demise of the club was not inevitable'. But Mr Sheldon told the judge this was exactly what would happen. He added: 'If the club is not sold or very nearly sold by the start of the season it will clearly be relegated out of the football league. 'This will happen because the administrators cannot give the assurances needed that the season's fixtures can be completed. 'It will then go out of the Football League and into some distant league, but the reality is that it will probably go into liquidation because the administrators will not be able to fund the continued business.' He continued: 'The evidence for this is quite clear. Mr Andronikou is quite clear about what the consequences would be if the CVA fails.' Edited 4 August, 2010 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 I should have thought these were "parachute payments" until it was confirmed you were actually going to stay up! There is no way 11mil would be offer in the Championship as TV money!! Advance on a portion of the Premier League money for the season 09/10, it's not dished out in one huge lump sum, but spread across the course of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedg Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 The news to summarise.. please ignore the laws we have broken and don't punish us otherwise it will hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 So their main defence is boo hoo! back us or lose us sob sob Mr Sheldon painted a Domesday scenario for the judge if he fails to back the club in his verdict. He said if the Revenue won the club 'in all likelihood would go into liquidation'. He said it would prevent Mr Chainrai becoming the new owner. 'There is no other purchaser. The only other way in which this club can move forward is through this proposed sale. 'Of course, there may be problems ahead, I do not doubt that.' Mr Sheldon said HMRC wanted Pompey to be placed in liquidation and that the taxman claimed if this happened 'the demise of the club was not inevitable'. But Mr Sheldon told the judge this was exactly what would happen. He added: 'If the club is not sold or very nearly sold by the start of the season it will clearly be relegated out of the football league. 'This will happen because the administrators cannot give the assurances needed that the season's fixtures can be completed. 'It will then go out of the Football League and into some distant league, but the reality is that it will probably go into liquidation because the administrators will not be able to fund the continued business.' He continued: 'The evidence for this is quite clear. Mr Andronikou is quite clear about what the consequences would be if the CVA fails.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 Mark: Mr Sheldon painted a Domesday scenario for the judge if he fails to back the club in his verdict. He said if the Revenue won the club 'in all likelihood would go into liquidation'. He said it would prevent Mr Chainrai becoming the new owner. 'There is no other purchaser. The only other way in which this club can move forward is through this proposed sale. 'Of course, there may be problems ahead, I do not doubt that.' Mr Sheldon said HMRC wanted Pompey to be placed in liquidation and that the taxman claimed if this happened 'the demise of the club was not inevitable'. But Mr Sheldon told the judge this was exactly what would happen. He added: 'If the club is not sold or very nearly sold by the start of the season it will clearly be relegated out of the football league. 'This will happen because the administrators cannot give the assurances needed that the season's fixtures can be completed. 'It will then go out of the Football League and into some distant league, but the reality is that it will probably go into liquidation because the administrators will not be able to fund the continued business.' He continued: 'The evidence for this is quite clear. Mr Andronikou is quite clear about what the consequences would be if the CVA fails.' Wednesday August 4, 2010 16:31 Mark So, by logical extension, criminals shouldn't be sent to prison as it will ruin their livelihoods? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 Advance on a portion of the Premier League money for the season 09/10, it's not dished out in one huge lump sum, but spread across the course of the season. Wasn't it the UHY-appointed lawyers who said it was advanced parachute payments rather than advanced TV/Premier League money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry the Badger Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 Well, if anybody had any doubts that Pompey are bricking it, there it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shufty Zubrik Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 'It will then go out of the Football League and into some distant league, but the reality is that it will probably go into liquidation because the administrators will not be able to fund the continued business.' He continued: 'The evidence for this is quite clear. Mr Andronikou is quite clear about what the consequences would be if the CVA fails.' Wednesday August 4, 2010 16:31 Mark Please, Please Mr Justice Mann, just do it. Its the right thing for civilisation as we know it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc_saint Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 Gotta be someone from on here................. [Comment From jagermeister ] I think it should be televised. Pay per view even extra £'s for our club not to pax tax on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 So, by logical extension, criminals shouldn't be sent to prison as it will ruin their livelihoods? Fair comparison. Suppose none of them have started bleating about their human rights to play / watch football yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under Weststand Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 So its down to the Judge to back the CVA not decide if its legal or not, I thought that was his brief here?? Pure and simple they have been cheating for the last 4-years & are continuing to try to cheat people out of moneys owed. That seems like a pretty pathetic closing statement, The judge is not interested if its a doomsday scenario, only interested in the facts of the case. Pull the plug me-lord CHEATING BAST***S! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 Ive been following the "Hijacked" link and Dan Roan's twitter http://twitter.com/danroan and it goes to show how deep in the sh** they are! The fact that PL clubs wanted to boot them out says it all, they have been ridiculously stupid at managing their finances and then the rest of the league had turned on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 Well, if anybody had any doubts that Pompey are bricking it, there it is. indeed, WTF does, 'if you don't back us we'll go into liquidation' have to do with the whether or not a CVA is valid or not. Thats the final straw for me any sympathy gone , they can just FOAD now and as soon as possible please. emotionally blackmailing the judge jeeze - what about the bloody small business' and charities who are only getting 20p in the £? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 clearly the pompey legal team are sh*tting it with a closing statement designed to tug on the heart strings, what is worse is that it would probably work. At the end of the day they are criminal, but if the judge has any doubt he will probably lean towards the portsmouth community IMO. Indeed its emotional blackmail, the c*nts, a last despicable act from a despicable club. Lets just hope that the HMRC's case is too strong for that scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 TMWTD but I didn't get many accepted. I've got accepted as APUP but rejected as bluetruth, bagmanarry & insolvenseablue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merovingian Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 Wasn't it the UHY-appointed lawyers who said it was advanced parachute payments rather than advanced TV/Premier League money? the CVA schedule of payment showing monies in and out will be the hard evidence I suspect not necessarily what the lawyer has determined that payment was for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidcreatures Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 Is Domesday the new Thursday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 Do HMRC get a 'right of reply' to Pompey's case/closing statement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin Strain Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 SWF posters so far if i recall have been TCWTB TCWTB2 , toaster, PUPMarian , USkateC , US baggage handler , OBE 4 AA , plus many more and one og my favourites was Nail in the coughing Just got one in...see if you can spot it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertySFC Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 what about No New Kit is that 1 of us lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 Just got one in...see if you can spot it.... I see what you did there, very covert..... :-) [Comment From Strained Chin: ] So, the Doomesday scenario is the line of defence? Don't let them win because we'll go into liquidation. Interesting path to follow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 clearly the pompey legal team are sh*tting it with a closing statement designed to tug on the heart strings, what is worse is that it would probably work. At the end of the day they are criminal, but if the judge has any doubt he will probably lean towards the portsmouth community IMO. Indeed its emotional blackmail, the c*nts, a last despicable act from a despicable club. Lets just hope that the HMRC's case is too strong for that scenario. I cant believe there closing statement basically says approve the CVA so Chainrai can pick the club up for a snip or he walks away. Its like they are telling the judge that was Chainrai's plan the whole time and its down to the judge to sign it off!! Incredible! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torres Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 I can see it tomorrow: "Whilst Mr Sheldon did paint a very gloomy picture indeed for the club and it's many hundreds of fans should I find against them, I find myself with no other option but to do that. This CVA was, as Mr Mitchell desicbed it 'a sham' This appeal is upheld." Cue thunderous laughter from all SO postcodes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 the Registrar was fooled/lulled by the 'what will happen scenario' is this judge made of the right stuff? To be fair if i was put in the situation and as much as some of the Skates annoy me, and my feelings of the injustice they have served up i couldn't pull the plug..........although Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish fingers Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 I can see it tomorrow: "Whilst Mr Sheldon did paint a very gloomy picture indeed for the club and it's many hundreds of fans should I find against them, I find myself with no other option but to do that. This CVA was, as Mr Mitchell desicbed it 'a sham' This appeal is upheld." Cue thunderous laughter from all SO postcodes... and hopefully the tv cameras focus in on TCWTB crying his scabby eyes out in front of the court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin Strain Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 I see what you did there, very covert..... :-) I was getting nowhere with setaks PUP.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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