tony13579 Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 the news: 11:22 Mark: Chris reports that now Mr Mitchell is advising the judge on case law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 Took them a while to get to, but they have now brought this to the courts attention... BBC's Dan Roan on Twitter At last, the real reason of the appeal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 DanRoan (bbc) Tweets HMRC now arguing that football creditors should not have been able to vote in CVA when they had prefered status The news is missing out a lot! Indeed we are getting to the heart of the matter now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 The FL monitor the owner before lifting the embargo. They have to be satisfied that everything is in order before it is lifted. For example, are the terms of the CVA being met etc..... This comes from the FL and is somewhere on this thread and I've also been told this direct by the FL myself in an email. Thanks fo rclearing that up VFTT . I admit I am wrong and so apologies to one and all for misleading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 I thought if new owners come in an embargo stays in p,ace till all football creditors are paid in full Seems I was wrong Wurzel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint in Paradise Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 This website and its associated newspaper adheres to the Press Complaints Commission’s Code of Practice. If you have a complaint about editorial content which relates to inaccuracy or intrusion, then contact the Editor by clicking here. If you remain dissatisfied with the response provided then you can contact the PCC by clicking here. So if your fair comments are not shown complain to the Press Complaints Commission Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack rill Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 I think that this is a very damaging assessment and will only confirm that the the Poorsmouth SHAM is more wide spread than most people outside of the south coast can appreciate, irrespective of the PL help to them last year, what an indictment to have that they caused world wide damage to the image of the alleged "best league in the world" , once the blame ball gets rolling who is next to reveal that they too were given false indications of the clubs position Scudamore is a L S O S trying to cover his own arse! A delegation of Pompey supporters had a meeting with him and his side kicks to voice there concerns about what the crooks were doing with our club He knew everything that was going down months ago, http://www.portsmouth.vitalfootball....e.asp?a=187272 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 Loving it... 11:32 [Comment From TCWTB TCWTB : ] We should have spent the money on a new 44,000 stadium for our super fans. We would have sold out every week and not be having these problems now! Pay up Pompey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 Scudamore is a L S O S trying to cover his own arse! A delegation of Pompey supporters had a meeting with him and his side kicks to voice there concerns about what the crooks were doing with our club He knew everything that was going down months ago, http://www.portsmouth.vitalfootball....e.asp?a=187272 Yes we know, you all tried tell us that you were in the know from day one, alas your fan base, it appears, are still deluded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin Strain Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 [Comment From TCWTB TCWTB : ] We should have spent the money on a new 44,000 stadium for our super fans. We would have sold out every week and not be having these problems now! Pay up Pompey. Big lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 Thanks fo rclearing that up VFTT . I admit I am wrong and so apologies to one and all for misleading. There is no need to apologise. The FL could very well lift the embargo straight away but the evidence and precedence is that they won't. The Golden Share is more complex in the FL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertySFC Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 If the News are reporting correctly then it appears that HMRC are not pushing a legal angle but just saying "it's not fair".....not strong grounds for a win. Can see skates getting away with it........leaving Storey to face the music. The Judge has previous experience of "not fair" cases .... and agreed with the claimant so lets not rush into assumptions Im sure HMRC have done their homework. http://www.thelondonpaper.com/thelondonpaper/news/london/foxtons-rapped-in-high-court-over-contract-traps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony13579 Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 the news Mark: Chris has filed again to say the case law discussions are continuing. Sorry that there is nothing more concrete to report right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 [Comment From Brett ] Felling VERY confident that the judge will end up telling HMRC to wind it's neck in and consider themseles fortunate enough to be getting 20p in the £ considering other, more recent, CVA's being agreed for less. If they want to change law, that's fine, but bring this up with the appropriate authorities to do so. They've wasted enough of ours and the taxpayers time and money. Lmao... oh rly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 Deluded fool.... 11:43 [Comment From Sparky Sparky : ] at Jimmy84, Its ok then for Chelsea and Man UTD to buy titles, and Saints to buy the JPT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony13579 Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 It will be very interesting to compare the actual judgement and his reasoning with the news feed and its omissions... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 Deluded fool.... 11:43 [Comment From Sparky Sparky : ] at Jimmy84, Its ok then for Chelsea and Man UTD to buy titles, and Saints to buy the JPT? Moron. How many times do we have to say "debt that can be serviced" for them to understand... (not that we've a debt, but Chelsea, United etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K,Billy's supersound Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 yeh we didnt have to buy it we just loaned our players antonio and pap the jtp superstars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warsash saint Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 Deluded fool.... 11:43 [Comment From Sparky Sparky : ] at Jimmy84, Its ok then for Chelsea and Man UTD to buy titles, and Saints to buy the JPT? My response to that has funnily enough not been published Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin Strain Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 My response to that has funnily enough not been published Mine neither. Have posted under several names and only the odd one has got through...weirdly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedArmy Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 Moron. How many times do we have to say "debt that can be serviced" for them to understand... (not that we've a debt, but Chelsea, United etc...That's not even the main point, half of the players we bought couldn't play in the JPT anyway. What a thick skate cnt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertySFC Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 Some of their fans comments are so funny on the live stream, asking the judge to read the 112 history of the club , drop the case and go for the real villains, best read I have had for years coffee spitting time every 5 minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedg Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 love the [Comment From TCWTB2 TCWTB2 : ] The Best Fans in the World simply don't deserve this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertySFC Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 Well pedg, nice to know that line is now a trade mark lol... can you claim tax relief on the cost of trade marking ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedg Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 are we actually going to get any cross examination of AA etc? HMRC still not finished and the pompey QC has a few hours of waffling yet to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 [Comment From pompeymega ] It disgusts me that over a century of history and years of dears and joy from thousands of fans, should be settled by a mere bang of a hammer. Play up Pompey! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony13579 Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 Dan Roan BBC Richard Sheldon QC begins Pompeys submissions - future of the club could depend on what he says the next few hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 Some of the comments actually beggar belief: [Comment From Steve H ] OK, lets put this in perspective. £34m is a lot of money but the total UK tax revenue for 2009/10 was £480bn so we are haggling here over 0.007% of the UK's annual tax revenue. Let's suppose that if HMRC win they could get future extra revenue from football clubs of a £100m. We are still only talking about an increase in annual revenue of 0.03%. You would think that HMRC have more important things to do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony13579 Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 snoring from the public bench with the news reporters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 [Comment From GavsterBlue ] The judge has to see sense in all this, This is just a pathetic attempt to put us out of business, in my book, that amounts to BULLYING. Perhaps we ought to put in a counter claim for harrasment!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertySFC Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 Some of the comments actually beggar belief: [Comment From Steve H ] OK, lets put this in perspective. £34m is a lot of money but the total UK tax revenue for 2009/10 was £480bn so we are haggling here over 0.007% of the UK's annual tax revenue. Let's suppose that if HMRC win they could get future extra revenue from football clubs of a £100m. We are still only talking about an increase in annual revenue of 0.03%. You would think that HMRC have more important things to do! Like prevent Tax evasion for instance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohwhenthesaints Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 Ah well. I'm not getting any more comments through as TCWTB. Looks like someone has come in to take over as TCWTB2 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 it seems there are more 'chaps' out there with bells than we ever realised.... Along with the News editing the facts to satisfy their audience, the hijacking of the comments by various comedy characters has been the highlight thus far, most amusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony13579 Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 the news Mark: Chris reports that after one-and-a-half days of representations, Mr Mitchell has finally finished putting the Revenue's case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin Strain Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 love the [Comment From TCWTB2 TCWTB2 : ] The Best Fans in the World simply don't deserve this. Yay - that was me...can't believe it got through! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 [Comment From pompeymega ] It disgusts me that over a century of history and years of dears and joy from thousands of fans, should be settled by a mere bang of a hammer. Play up Pompey! is that with a hammer as in a demolition one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin Strain Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 Ah well. I'm not getting any more comments through as TCWTB. Looks like someone has come in to take over as TCWTB2 though. Yep...I'm in....also look out for 'Dave', 'Wildman' and 'Waynetta' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K,Billy's supersound Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 so hmrc have a day and a half to put forth there case pompey just the rest of today and tommorrow morning. still it won't take long to plea for the emotions of the greatest set of fan's ever and for the good of all world sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 Mark: Chris reports that after one-and-a-half days of representations, Mr Mitchell has finally finished putting the Revenue's case. Please, Please let Android have some input for the defence,victory will be almost assured for HMRC;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merovingian Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 you guys are funny - I know your "having your day" etc but I seem to remember alot of just as silly comments from you lot when you were in a similar predicament ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertySFC Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 Yep...I'm in....also look out for 'Dave', 'Wildman' and 'Waynetta' I've posted several comments but not yet seen my sledge hammer wit announced Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin Strain Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 Ah well. I'm not getting any more comments through as TCWTB. Looks like someone has come in to take over as TCWTB2 though. You're back..nice. [Comment From TCWTB. TCWTB. : ] They can take our money, they can take our players but they will never take our FREEEDOM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anothersaintinsouthsea Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 lol @ TCWTB great stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony13579 Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 12:15 [Comment From TCWTB. TCWTB. : ] "They can take our money, they can take our players but they will never take our FREEEDOM! " silly ar5e Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertySFC Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 coffee spitting on keyboard again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin Strain Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 you guys are funny - I know your "having your day" etc but I seem to remember alot of just as silly comments from you lot when you were in a similar predicament ! There are indeed idiots everywhere....but you guys have a simply astounding number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 lol @ TCWTB great stuff What does this stand for? I guess it's something to do with W******d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin Strain Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 Have just posted Johnny Bognor's outstanding 'A Few Good Men' post (under his name) - wonder if it will get in.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedg Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 What does this stand for? I guess it's something to do with W******d I refer the learned gentlemen to the past few pages of the thread.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertySFC Posted 4 August, 2010 Share Posted 4 August, 2010 Is it the Chap with the bell ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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