hypochondriac Posted 24 October, 2009 Share Posted 24 October, 2009 I hope Phil is around later to read this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 24 October, 2009 Share Posted 24 October, 2009 I can't believe they want to sack members of the youth set-up. After all, just look at their amazing track-record of recent superstars produced: er,... Darren Anderton? Mark Chamberlain was at our academy for a considerable time i am led to believe helped a great deal. I have heard that he may well be returning after leaving PFC,not sure if it has anything to do with the fact that his son Alex is at our Academy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 24 October, 2009 Share Posted 24 October, 2009 I hope Phil is around later to read this! I swear to God that even over a lot of beers with EricofArabia we couldn't have managed to come up with more stupendous twists and turns than this. Feck me, waiting for new owners at Nottarf Krap is like waiting for a bus, nothing happens then 3 new owners in a week. So has Al Faraj bought the club and sold it again? Have these guys won control by simply suing Daddy. (How would THAT one play out at the PL) In the photo Story looks like he was told the only way to save the club was to place some of his fingers into the right spot of his potential new owner. I don't speak Arabic but I can read exactly what Al-Faraj's Brother is saying - habla habla dirka dirka jihad jihad which translates as WTF has that idiot kid bro done now. Oh and I also note that Avram Grant is two timing the Sk8tes, obviously they cannot pay him so he is also now working in the movies as the photo shows he is now starring in the remake of the Invisible Man Two things have to happen here The fun must last longer Dave Richards at the PL must be publicly shot for meddling You know, when I hatched the plan over a beer after the forum game, I had NO idea it would pan out like this. oops ok that was a joke honest, don't think even Monty Python could have come up with a script like this one, way above my abilities! ROFL honestly ROeffingL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 24 October, 2009 Share Posted 24 October, 2009 http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Portsmouth-owner-Ali-Al-Faraj-I-didn-t-buy-club-on-a-whim-article199233.html can we get this televised, its a corking drama unfolding with us !! ha ha Smug grin at this end..... Well, I do believe that I pointed out that last week's owner was a reality TV star (in his own mind) Feck, we thought 3 managers in a season was bad, 3 OWNERS... And for everything else there is Mastercard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 24 October, 2009 Share Posted 24 October, 2009 Someone on truebluearmy joined this morning to say about Hong Kong investors and that they would be getting Harry back! Now that really would be something... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 24 October, 2009 Share Posted 24 October, 2009 Someone on truebluearmy joined this morning to say about Hong Kong investors and that they would be getting Harry back! Now that really would be something... Well, makes sense, sure it would be easier to commute from Parkhurst allegedly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 24 October, 2009 Share Posted 24 October, 2009 You get the impression it's only the slight chance of Premiership survival that is holding their tower of cards together. Once the Arabs/Israelis/banks realise it's only a couple of years parachutes they have to fight over, I expect it will get really messy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under Weststand Posted 24 October, 2009 Share Posted 24 October, 2009 You get the impression it's only the slight chance of Premiership survival that is holding their tower of cards together. Once the Arabs/Israelis/banks realise it's only a couple of years parachutes they have to fight over, I expect it will get really messy. Can it really get any messier, lets hope so . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 25 October, 2009 Share Posted 25 October, 2009 So.....in a nutshell....the two Dudes who are going to invest 15 mil, are the ones who sued Gaylads dad for 16.1 mil, and Gaylad is the one who 'sold' to Dr Dolittle (the 'owner' of all the land in poopey), who in turn, has sold to the John and Edward from the desert, who are Billionaires with no money, who are in turn, suing a series of newspapers, for publishing a story which is true!!!!. This all being conducted by the Storeyteller, who has been arrested (allegedly), and is also being investigated along with their previous (twice) saggychop manager, and the previous,previous,previous,previous owner, who was also a clean living honest upright citizen..... Hope I have the plot to date!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallyboy Posted 25 October, 2009 Share Posted 25 October, 2009 the last thing they need right now is another short term loan secured against the same bits of shed that the previous ones are secured against. But where is all the money going? It's pouring through the club at a rate that makes Rupert look like Businessman of the Year, perhaps the great hero Storrie may like to explain. It must nearly be time to call a halt to this sorry debacle, there's a limit to how many sinister foreign consortium members you can have owed money in one director's box. And most significantly, they still haven't cleared the taxman yet, he will wind them up tomorrow if it suits him. What a farce, possibly worse than Leeds now, at least they were honest enough to collapse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 25 October, 2009 Author Share Posted 25 October, 2009 Heard from my "informer" last night - the same one whose spot on info provoked this thread (which I think should still be on the main forum). Apparently the story which the Guardian pulled was 100% kosher (ahem) and the Saudi media are none to happy with the Poopey press office for casting aspertions. All sorts of legal threats being banded about and morale sinking fast among the staff. Like I said on the title of the thread and to quote the Edwin Hawkins singers "Oh Happy Day". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alehouseboys Posted 25 October, 2009 Share Posted 25 October, 2009 Corp? Whats the inside line? .............................? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 25 October, 2009 Share Posted 25 October, 2009 Heard from my "informer" last night - the same one whose spot on info provoked this thread (which I think should still be on the main forum). Apparently the story which the Guardian pulled was 100% kosher (ahem) and the Saudi media are none to happy with the Poopey press office for casting aspertions. All sorts of legal threats being banded about and morale sinking fast among the staff. Like I said on the title of the thread and to quote the Edwin Hawkins singers "Oh Happy Day". The problem Al Faraj faced was "nobody knows him" This then becomes "he will have no leverage in the political or business community" Which then becomes "He is bringing The Magic Kingdom into disrepute" Which then becomes "succumbed unexpectly to a serious and rapid attack of Swine Flu" If Saudi media printed the story, there was a very good reason for it, it was most likely not done to sell newspapers. oops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 25 October, 2009 Share Posted 25 October, 2009 Someone on truebluearmy joined this morning to say about Hong Kong investors and that they would be getting Harry back! Now that really would be something... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1222768/EXCLUSIVE-Hope-ailing-Portsmouth-new-backers-wait-wings.html?ITO=1490 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 25 October, 2009 Share Posted 25 October, 2009 So to pay their tax bill and loans off they have taken out more loans secured against next seasons Sky money and club assests in addition to taking out a loan to pay the wages? This years Sky money has been used to pay off Standard Bank and the previous owner. F**k me, they are in the cr@p. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 25 October, 2009 Share Posted 25 October, 2009 If Saudi media printed the story, there was a very good reason for it, it was most likely not done to sell newspapers. oops What do you mean by this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 25 October, 2009 Author Share Posted 25 October, 2009 What do you mean by this? The Observer has the full story today. Should answer your question. http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/oct/24/portsmouth-ali-al-faraj-interview Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 25 October, 2009 Author Share Posted 25 October, 2009 So to pay their tax bill and loans off they have taken out more loans secured against next seasons Sky money and club assests in addition to taking out a loan to pay the wages? This years Sky money has been used to pay off Standard Bank and the previous owner. F**k me, they are in the cr@p. I also hear the players have been told there is a possibility October's wages won't be paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 25 October, 2009 Share Posted 25 October, 2009 The Observer has the full story today. Should answer your question. http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/oct/24/portsmouth-ali-al-faraj-interview I read that. I was interested in the way Phil suggested that higher powers would ensure no embarrassment to Saudi would be allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 25 October, 2009 Share Posted 25 October, 2009 Heard from my "informer" last night - the same one whose spot on info provoked this thread (which I think should still be on the main forum). Apparently the story which the Guardian pulled was 100% kosher (ahem) and the Saudi media are none to happy with the Poopey press office for casting aspertions. All sorts of legal threats being banded about and morale sinking fast among the staff. Like I said on the title of the thread and to quote the Edwin Hawkins singers "Oh Happy Day". The spot on info that was wrong? We even had to change the thread title to read "completes" instead of "collapses"? Also, why should this be on the main page? I really don't get that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 25 October, 2009 Share Posted 25 October, 2009 What an absolute mess. I was always pleased to see Pompey get a "bloody nose" and relegation from the Premier but they seem to get knocked down, get up only to get knocked down again and again and again and again........ Where is the towel or the ref stepping in? It cannot be far away. I do not want to see the end of Pompey and I am sure the majority agree just like the majority of Pompey supporters did not want us to disappear from the football map. But it is lovely to watch them squirm, almost as good as our 4-1, 3-1, 3-1, 3-1 results of late Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clapham Saint Posted 25 October, 2009 Share Posted 25 October, 2009 Pure speculation on my part but given the twists and turns and "unclear" financial transactions so far... Are these new "new investors" actually lending money nto the club or having sued gaydamak's father has a "debt arrisen" with no cash actually coming in? I would have said that this would be too far fetched to be true but... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 25 October, 2009 Share Posted 25 October, 2009 The spot on info that was wrong? We even had to change the thread title to read "completes" instead of "collapses"? Also, why should this be on the main page? I really don't get that. Saved me saying the same things Ponts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 25 October, 2009 Share Posted 25 October, 2009 I should probably merge this with the thread in General Sports. After all, they're both essentially the same, with the same comments and the same links being posted. I'll give it some thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 25 October, 2009 Author Share Posted 25 October, 2009 (edited) The spot on info that was wrong? We even had to change the thread title to read "completes" instead of "collapses"? Also, why should this be on the main page? I really don't get that. The spot on info was that Farim's takeover was doomed. His info came when the press were full of the takeover had happened and it was going to be the next best thing blah blah blah when in fact it never really did. I would argue "collapses" is nearer to the truth than "completes". But if you really want to nit pick, Ponty go right ahead, the popularity of the thread sort of says it all and is why imo it should never have been moved in the first place. I think you lack a little bit of soul Ponty. True Saints fans always have half an eye on the goings on down the road - virtually every Saints fan walking home from the game yesterday were asking how Pompey got on - perhaps you ought to take of your admin mask now and again, stop playing the part of an over officious jobsworth and enjoy life and Pompey's demise a bit? Edited 25 October, 2009 by Fitzhugh Fella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyinthesky Posted 25 October, 2009 Share Posted 25 October, 2009 I continue to be worried about Corp and his relatives Westwood (sic), Tally and Gung. Rumour is Corp is out and about (again) trying to rustle up another rescue package Some suggestion that the new Job****e Stadium will be built on one of the Solent Forts which is currently up for sale. Good site, no problems with neighbours and plenty of plankton in the vicinity for pre match meals!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 25 October, 2009 Share Posted 25 October, 2009 I should probably merge this with the thread in General Sports. After all, they're both essentially the same, with the same comments and the same links being posted. I'll give it some thought. Here's another thought then.......why not ask the members where they'd like it?????.....instead of what you as an individual wants. I happen to agree with FF, three times these threads have been started on the main board, all have run to a lot of pages, which means 'popular'.....and three times, the Mods/admin, have moved them to various parts of the forum. I'll go with the majority vote.......have a poll!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 25 October, 2009 Share Posted 25 October, 2009 The spot on info was that Farim's takeover was doomed. His info came when the press were full of the takeover had happened and it was going to be the next best thing blah blah blah when in fact it never really did. I would argue "collapses" is nearer to the truth than "completes". But if you really want to nit pick, Ponty go right ahead, the popularity of the thread sort of says it all and is why imo it should never have been moved in the first place. I think you lack a little bit of soul Ponty. True Saints fans always have half an eye on the goings on down the road - virtually every Saints fan walking home from the game yesterday were asking how Pompey got on - perhaps you ought to take of your admin mask now and again, stop playing the part of an over officious jobsworth and enjoy life and Pompey's demise a bit? Yes........I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 25 October, 2009 Share Posted 25 October, 2009 Hasslebaink said no to the assistant managers job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Monkey Posted 25 October, 2009 Share Posted 25 October, 2009 Here's another thought then.......why not ask the members where they'd like it?????.....instead of what you as an individual wants. I happen to agree with FF, three times these threads have been started on the main board, all have run to a lot of pages, which means 'popular'.....and three times, the Mods/admin, have moved them to various parts of the forum. I'll go with the majority vote.......have a poll!!!! What difference does it make? We can access it, and all other NON SAINTS RELATED threads here anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 25 October, 2009 Share Posted 25 October, 2009 The spot on info was that Farim's takeover was doomed. His info came when the press were full of the takeover had happened and it was going to be the next best thing blah blah blah when in fact it never really did. I would argue "collapses" is nearer to the truth than "completes". But if you really want to nit pick, Ponty go right ahead, the popularity of the thread sort of says it all and is why imo it should never have been moved in the first place. I think you lack a little bit of soul Ponty. True Saints fans always have half an eye on the goings on down the road - virtually every Saints fan walking home from the game yesterday were asking how Pompey got on - perhaps you ought to take of your admin mask now and again, stop playing the part of an over officious jobsworth and enjoy life and Pompey's demise a bit? I'm enjoying watching them sweat, not quite as much as I'm enjoying our own happenings at the moment but it's amusing. I don't think moving it to the general discussion area means I have no soul though (I'm not even sure I moved it in the first place but I probably would have done at some point) as it's not about the Saints or the goings on at SMS, which is what the main board is reserved for. Regardless, your arguments make no sense. The deal didn't collapse, it went through. You reliably informed us it wasn't going to happen but it did. I don't think that's nit-picking. In an argument about facts, the only thing that matters is the facts. Supposition and opinion don't carry much weight in a right/wrong argument and your mate with the "spot on info" was wrong. But if you want to carry on nit-picking, go right ahead. I thought you were leaving this place anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 25 October, 2009 Share Posted 25 October, 2009 I'm enjoying watching them sweat, not quite as much as I'm enjoying our own happenings at the moment but it's amusing. I don't think moving it to the general discussion area means I have no soul though (I'm not even sure I moved it in the first place but I probably would have done at some point) as it's not about the Saints or the goings on at SMS, which is what the main board is reserved for. Regardless, your arguments make no sense. The deal didn't collapse, it went through. You reliably informed us it wasn't going to happen but it did. I don't think that's nit-picking. In an argument about facts, the only thing that matters is the facts. Supposition and opinion don't carry much weight in a right/wrong argument and your mate with the "spot on info" was wrong. But if you want to carry on nit-picking, go right ahead. I thought you were leaving this place anyway Do you realy think it went through! The man said it did but then could not find the money to finance his whim. The club had to try to find someone else who now admits he also had to find finance to keep them out of Administration. FF was correct. I know who his source is and he has been correct in his information thus far on Pompey, their finances and this takeover mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under Weststand Posted 25 October, 2009 Share Posted 25 October, 2009 I also hear the players have been told there is a possibility October's wages won't be paid. Cant they just take out a short term loan to pay the wages in October And not to sure it matters that much where the thread is FF its great comedy value wherever it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 25 October, 2009 Author Share Posted 25 October, 2009 (edited) I'm enjoying watching them sweat, not quite as much as I'm enjoying our own happenings at the moment but it's amusing. I don't think moving it to the general discussion area means I have no soul though (I'm not even sure I moved it in the first place but I probably would have done at some point) as it's not about the Saints or the goings on at SMS, which is what the main board is reserved for. Regardless, your arguments make no sense. The deal didn't collapse, it went through. You reliably informed us it wasn't going to happen but it did. I don't think that's nit-picking. In an argument about facts, the only thing that matters is the facts. Supposition and opinion don't carry much weight in a right/wrong argument and your mate with the "spot on info" was wrong. But if you want to carry on nit-picking, go right ahead. I thought you were leaving this place anyway The deal did not through. Farim was never accepted by the FL as a fit and proper person, he had no funds. My informer who is extremely well-paced and well-connected heard that Farim was a sham. His information has more than been proved to be spot on. Yes in the intervening weeks since I started the thread the sands have shifted and the takeover has taken on a completely different hue. I strll maintain the day I started this thread the info was of startling interest - so much so quite a few Pompey fans got in touch with me. I await ainteresting thread from you in the meantime. As for me leaving Ponty, I considered it but 2 things made me stay. One was not to let idiots drive me away and the second reason was I recieved a lot of mail from people I do not know asking me to stay. I felt genuinely touched. I don't know you at all and you are probably a decent likeable chap but sometimes the way you administer does come across as being a little arrogant whether that is your intention or not. I know Um pahars left because he felt along similar lines. For example, with your comments on this thread this morning you seem to be more interested in having a jibe or personal point scoring at the thread rather than the situation down the road. One thing Saints fans can really unite over is having a chuckle at the farce at Fratton but you chose instead to criticise my starting the thread in the first place and doubt its authenticity. Edited 25 October, 2009 by Fitzhugh Fella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 25 October, 2009 Share Posted 25 October, 2009 I'm really only criticising your complaining that it's not on the main board. It seems such a pointless thing to complain about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader Posted 25 October, 2009 Share Posted 25 October, 2009 The Premier League must be praying P*mpey get relegated so they can be rid of this embarrasment of a club and all the associated problems. They couldn't possibly engineer such an outcome could they? Hmm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 25 October, 2009 Share Posted 25 October, 2009 They won't have to. Seems to me, in a nutshell, that the sk8's are using next years income to pay last years debts. If that really is the case, then it's only a matter of time, and not much more of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 25 October, 2009 Share Posted 25 October, 2009 I continue to be worried about Corp and his relatives Westwood (sic), Tally and Gung. Rumour is Corp is out and about (again) trying to rustle up another rescue package Some suggestion that the new Job****e Stadium will be built on one of the Solent Forts which is currently up for sale. Good site, no problems with neighbours and plenty of plankton in the vicinity for pre match meals!! Tee-Hee!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delmary Posted 25 October, 2009 Share Posted 25 October, 2009 At last the penny drops: http://www.fansonline.net/pompey-fans/article.php?id=100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 25 October, 2009 Share Posted 25 October, 2009 Here's another thought then.......why not ask the members where they'd like it?????.....instead of what you as an individual wants. I happen to agree with FF, three times these threads have been started on the main board, all have run to a lot of pages, which means 'popular'.....and three times, the Mods/admin, have moved them to various parts of the forum. I'll go with the majority vote.......have a poll!!!! I agree tbh. It was a lot easier to find and we got more interesting comments on the main board because it was seen by more people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 25 October, 2009 Share Posted 25 October, 2009 I'm really only criticising your complaining that it's not on the main board. It seems such a pointless thing to complain about.One other thing, what right did you have to change the title of the thread without permission from the original poster. It did not break the rules. I can understand it being moved although it should have gone to the sports not the lounge but moderators editing things not breaking the rules is just not on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 25 October, 2009 Share Posted 25 October, 2009 What do you mean by this? Media in the UK report the news they feel will generate sales revenue for their companies by increasing circulation and hence advertising sales rates. Their stories are tinted by 1) Their "political" or "market position" view, and the UK's legislation In "some" parts of the world the media is not so unencumbered. It is hard to have a "political position" in a region where "politics" does not exist... So, "some" media in "some" parts of the world can tend to publish what is in their interests to publish, rather than in what sells papers..... It used to be rare in Britain but I think these days you call it spin, in the days of Lord Haw Haw it tended to be called propaganda. "Some media" call it doing what they are told. So, it could be that this is a general interest story in Saudi. Or it could be that the "mis-match" of messaging is actually a means of expressing some "concerns" on an issue. Saudi's employing Israelis, and the appearance of sudden malcontent being spread by media in Saudi which adds to the woes... I couldn't possibly see any link, nor could I possibly comment on anything like that. HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 25 October, 2009 Share Posted 25 October, 2009 I read that. I was interested in the way Phil suggested that higher powers would ensure no embarrassment to Saudi would be allowed. You may think that sir, but I couldn't possibly comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 25 October, 2009 Share Posted 25 October, 2009 And also I got that PM from um pahars. He's a big loss to the forum and it's very sad that he felt the way he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 25 October, 2009 Share Posted 25 October, 2009 And also I got that PM from um pahars. He's a big loss to the forum and it's very sad that he felt the way he did. Why? What's happened to him? He was a good poster IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 25 October, 2009 Share Posted 25 October, 2009 One other thing, what right did you have to change the title of the thread without permission from the original poster. It did not break the rules. I can understand it being moved although it should have gone to the sports not the lounge but moderators editing things not breaking the rules is just not on. I don't know who changed it but we often change misleading thread titles. In fact we do it all the time, especially when, a) titles are stated as fact when in fact they're supposition, or, b) they're wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 25 October, 2009 Author Share Posted 25 October, 2009 One other thing, what right did you have to change the title of the thread without permission from the original poster. It did not break the rules. I can understand it being moved although it should have gone to the sports not the lounge but moderators editing things not breaking the rules is just not on. Thanks Ron - I thought the same, although I didn't notice it until this morning. I would like it's title reverted to the original because my name is on it and I don't believe the new title is correct. So Ponty this is an official request to please have the original title re-instated. Fans can then make up their own minds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 25 October, 2009 Author Share Posted 25 October, 2009 Why? What's happened to him? He was a good poster IMHO. He left because he didn't like the way this forum was sometimes administered, being a mod is a thankless job I appreciate but sometimes I feel they invite some of their problems with unecessary jibes. To change the title of this thread was rather petty imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpb Posted 25 October, 2009 Share Posted 25 October, 2009 I remember being disappointed when this thread was moved to the Lounge as it was a place that I rarely visited. However, as a result I have since discovered that there are often interesting threads to be found in that location, e.g. Southampton Nostalgia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 25 October, 2009 Share Posted 25 October, 2009 Why not just call it pompey takeover saga. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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